Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
George Baker wrote: Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. That card is an absolute bugger (if you restart X, you'll see amongst the messages flashing down the screen something like Found an S3 card -ugh). I installed 7.0 on a similar system and got it working eventually - you just need to play around with the X settings at random until something works - I'm sorry, I can't remember the configuration I found. My advice is to upgrade to at least 7.2, which should handle this well (I found 7.2 to be good at handling old hardware). 8.0 should also work OK, 8.1 is problematic in general (though can be made to work if you don't mind some hacking if you want supermount). I haven't tried 8.2 with that card, and 9.0 - let's see. For Windows, I'd say yes, download the latest driver. 486s and Pentiums work pretty differently AFAIK. Sir Robin I only have a modem connection so downloading MDK 7.2 or any other is out of the question. I know of someone here in South Africa that will snail mail them to me but our mail service is really SNAIL MAIL so this would take time. Does anyone know of a way to get this card to work with MDK7.0 just for the time being?? I managed to get my 800X600 res in WIN98 to fill up the whole screen by using a 56Mhz refresh rate. Any suggestions for a cheapish mainstream card that would work in MDK 7.0 (remembering that the Rand/Dollar exchange rate in South Africa makes most computer equipment hellishly expensive). Thanks George Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 083 4666192 If the secret sorrows of everyone could be read on their forehead, how many who now cause envy would suddenly become the objects of pity. -Italian proverb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
George Baker wrote: George Baker wrote: Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. That card is an absolute bugger (if you restart X, you'll see amongst the messages flashing down the screen something like Found an S3 card -ugh). I installed 7.0 on a similar system and got it working eventually - you just need to play around with the X settings at random until something works - I'm sorry, I can't remember the configuration I found. My advice is to upgrade to at least 7.2, which should handle this well (I found 7.2 to be good at handling old hardware). 8.0 should also work OK, 8.1 is problematic in general (though can be made to work if you don't mind some hacking if you want supermount). I haven't tried 8.2 with that card, and 9.0 - let's see. For Windows, I'd say yes, download the latest driver. 486s and Pentiums work pretty differently AFAIK. Sir Robin I only have a modem connection so downloading MDK 7.2 or any other is out of the question. I know of someone here in South Africa that will snail mail them to me but our mail service is really SNAIL MAIL so this would take time. Does anyone know of a way to get this card to work with MDK7.0 just for the time being?? I managed to get my 800X600 res in WIN98 to fill up the whole screen by using a 56Mhz refresh rate. Any suggestions for a cheapish mainstream card that would work in MDK 7.0 (remembering that the Rand/Dollar exchange rate in South Africa makes most computer equipment hellishly expensive). Try manually changing the monitor settings in your XF86Config file - make sure you have the vertical and horizontal rates the same as those specified in your monitor's manual. As for cheap cards, GeForce 2s have dropped in price considerably. If you can afford one with 64MB onboard memory, it's almost as good as a GeForce 4, but even if you only get 32MB, it should still give you a massive performance boost over the S3. If you can't afford even that, I have an old Trident 3Dimage card I can post you. It's problematic, in that in earlier versions of Mandrake (or rather XFree86) you have to hack the XF86Config file to disable acceleration, but it works OK so long as you don't want to play resource-heavy 3D games. Would you believe our school is still trying to foist S3 cards on us. After a visit from one of our techies, I actually found a new one in a box on my desk. I'll use it as a paperweight. Sir Robin -- Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It's lovely to be silly at the right moment - Horace Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara 06533 http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
At 12:12 AM 9/23/2002 +, you wrote: George Baker wrote: Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. Funny thing... I just reinstalled on an old P200 mmx with an S3 Virge (they shoulda called it a Purge, cause it pukes a lot) with 8.2 MDK. Works fine, once I brought the colours down to 16 bit (not 24million colours, the one below that)... Till then the screen would flash... weird stuff artifacts. Also I'm running it 1024x768 on an old 17 monitor by Daytek. Shrugs, works fine. Don't know if its 4 or 8mb...or even 2mb. I do know its ancient. I also know I've had some little problems with it. GL HTH! --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
On Sunday 22 September 2002 09:28 pm, you wrote: S3 Virge can be a nightmare on Windows systems. The company that produced them is out of business. There are still drivers archived, although choosing the correct one must be done carefully. You probably will be o.k. updating for Win98 or maybe even Win98 SE as long as you're using Win95 drivers (Win98 and SE were expensive bug fixes for Win95) ... but I wouldn't try it (--from personal experience) on WinMe, Win2K or WinXP (these are listed for others who read this) because the available drivers either can't be installed successfully (windows doesn't recognize or use them) or they crash the card. Have you considered changing to a more mainstream card? Erik SNIP I remeber in about 1996 or 7 (maybe 98) S3 had a program for resellers and repair centers that advertised that S3 would not question and would automatically give an RMA number and a new (equal memory, different chipset) videocard for any virge based card as an effort to be rid of this card. the flyer I saw about it came from a distributor (I think it was Merisol) that had the headline help us purge the Virge. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. PC DETAILS: * System Summary * Hardware Processor: GenuineIntel Pentium(R) 167 MHz xB1 mxB1 Math Support: On Chip BIOS: Compaq 07/08/97 Bus Type: PCI Ports: 1 Parallel, 2 Serial Memory: 64.0 MB (63% Utilized) Floppy Disks: 1.44 MB Hard Disks: 3.02 GB Multimedia: CD-ROM Video: 800x600 in 64K Colors, S3 ViRGE-DX/GX PCI (375/385) Ver. 4.0 Operating System Windows:4.10 (Build A ) DOS:7.10 Net Clients: Microsoft Network * * Display Summary * * Monitor: AcerView 33D Video Chipset: S3 ViRGE-DX/GX PCI (375/385) Ver. 4.0 Resolution: 800x600 in 64K Colors Device Information Driver Version: 4.0 Technology: Raster display Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
S3 Virge can be a nightmare on Windows systems. The company that produced them is out of business. There are still drivers archived, although choosing the correct one must be done carefully. You probably will be o.k. updating for Win98 or maybe even Win98 SE as long as you're using Win95 drivers (Win98 and SE were expensive bug fixes for Win95) ... but I wouldn't try it (--from personal experience) on WinMe, Win2K or WinXP (these are listed for others who read this) because the available drivers either can't be installed successfully (windows doesn't recognize or use them) or they crash the card. Have you considered changing to a more mainstream card? Erik robin wrote: George Baker wrote: Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. That card is an absolute bugger (if you restart X, you'll see amongst the messages flashing down the screen something like Found an S3 card -ugh). I installed 7.0 on a similar system and got it working eventually - you just need to play around with the X settings at random until something works - I'm sorry, I can't remember the configuration I found. My advice is to upgrade to at least 7.2, which should handle this well (I found 7.2 to be good at handling old hardware). 8.0 should also work OK, 8.1 is problematic in general (though can be made to work if you don't mind some hacking if you want supermount). I haven't tried 8.2 with that card, and 9.0 - let's see. For Windows, I'd say yes, download the latest driver. 486s and Pentiums work pretty differently AFAIK. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
