Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 04:45, anton wrote: > > Is the quote still there? I can't see it... what is the faq? > Cheers > Anton > ps Worried Samsung people? Seems so - they've removed it. The link Joe gave took you straight to the quote, but if you check the FAQ (hit 'List' at the bottom of the entry that's now there) it no longer exists. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
"Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work like a normal CD-ROM drive." Is the quote still there? I can't see it... what is the faq? Cheers Anton ps Worried Samsung people? -- Sent by the lovely Mozilla running MDK9.2 on an Athlon2000XP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 Jan 2004 11:05 pm, robin wrote: > So why does a company that advertises Linux support for one of its > products give out a stupid press release like this? Linux users are > very partisan. Advertise your product as Linux-compatible and, > better still, provide drivers, and Linux users will give you priority > over your competitors. >From the way the website works I'd say the monitor makers and the card makers are in two different divisions. In a company that size it'd be a suprise if they talked to each other, much less agreed. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 January 2004 05:05 pm, robin wrote: > Tom Brinkman wrote: > > The only item I have that is Samsung is a 19" LCD > > monitor. It claims Linux compatiblity. The manual that came > > with it has very verbose instructions for Xfree86 config. > > None were needed. I re- enabled Harddrake, shut down, swapped > > monitors and Hardrake set the new Samsung up. > > So why does a company that advertises Linux support for one of > its products give out a stupid press release like this? Linux > users are very partisan. Advertise your product as > Linux-compatible and, better still, provide drivers, and Linux > users will give you priority over your competitors. > > Sir Robin Most Linux users (rightfully so) condemn M$ for arm twisting ready made vendors to only ship M$ OS's with their systems. That's the 2nd reason. By far the 1st is that large ready made (Dell, et al) vendors want to ship only Windoze, because they can get away with substandard, even bastard (OEM ONLY SPEC'd), and fake win-hardware. Plus it narrows their support field, which can be a sizeable cost. Also allows them to procure in much larger quanities, and save on volume. What works with Windoze is often of such inferior quality, it won't with a real OS. Much the same is true for peripheal hardware vendors. It was a very stupid press release tho. Even bigtime vendors like Intel, are very quiet about the OEM ONLY motherboards they supply to large ready made vendors substandard SPEC's and lack of Industry Standards compliance. EG, the recent flap over LG. Dr. Tom (http://www.tomshardware.com/) and other major hardware Websites expoused these same views (I gained as an overclocker) several years ago. Till M$, Dell, et al made 'em shut up. Maybe Billy Goates arm twisted Samsung? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 26 January 2004 04:54 pm, robin wrote: So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist. Lucky I just bought a Philips CD writer. I hear it's a PITA under Windows, but it works fine (if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2. Well, your call. I prefer to reserve my own blacklist for those that go out of their way to oppose Linux/Unix rather than simply not make an effort to support it. There are more than enough manufacturers content to be hostile to Linux as it is. There's a difference between not supporting Linux and spreading FUD. Lexmark and proprietary driver/chips in printer cartridges anyone? Good example. They sell the printers cheap to get customers hooked in to the cartridges. I'm about to buy an HP printer - fully Linux-compatible, and I can get my cartridges refilled at any stationers. Sir Robin -- " Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on." - Winston Churchill Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 January 2004 03:54 pm, robin wrote: > Ironically, the only manufacturer I know that put "Linux > compatible" on the box was LG. Oops. > > A better way of phrasing Sansung's statement would be "Almost > all CD writers available in the market are compatible with > Linux/Unix, but we prefer to let the guys in the Linux kernel > development team do the hard work." > > So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist. Lucky I just > bought a Philips CD writer. I hear it's a PITA under Windows, > but it works fine (if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2. > > Sir Robin The only item I have that is Samsung is a 19" LCD monitor. It claims Linux compatiblity. The manual that came with it has very verbose instructions for Xfree86 config. None were needed. I re- enabled Harddrake, shut down, swapped monitors and Hardrake set the new Samsung up. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 January 2004 04:54 pm, robin wrote: > So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist. Lucky I just bought a > Philips CD writer. I hear it's a PITA under Windows, but it works fine > (if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2. Well, your call. I prefer to reserve my own blacklist for those that go out of their way to oppose Linux/Unix rather than simply not make an effort to support it. There are more than enough manufacturers content to be hostile to Linux as it is. Lexmark and proprietary driver/chips in printer cartridges anyone? -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 26 January 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote: Quote: "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work like a normal CD-ROM drive." The correct text should probably read: "Almost no manufacturer in the market supports CD Writers as being compatible with Linux/Unixblah blah." Then it would be technically correct since I don't know of any manufacturer that supports their CD/DVD Writing products under Linux/Unix either. Then again, they don't support them as normal CD-ROM Drives either. Ironically, the only manufacturer I know that put "Linux compatible" on the box was LG. Oops. A better way of phrasing Sansung's statement would be "Almost all CD writers available in the market are compatible with Linux/Unix, but we prefer to let the guys in the Linux kernel development team do the hard work." So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist. Lucky I just bought a Philips CD writer. I hear it's a PITA under Windows, but it works fine (if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2. Sir Robin -- " Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on." - Winston Churchill Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 January 2004 08:58 am, JoeHill wrote: > Quote: > > "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. > The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows > 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the > other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers > will work like a normal CD-ROM drive." > > Link: > > http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitem&group=cdrw&id= >1 > > Here's where you can set them straight: > > http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact I left them a note, three different brands used, none made by the same company, all work very well. I have used about 5 different burning progs and no bad burns. Open source software works very well. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:58:34 -0500 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quote: > > "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The > only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows > 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other > operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work > like a normal CD-ROM drive." > > Link: > > http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitem&group=cdrw&id=1 > I own a samsung cdwriter, on advice from the local store, the told me "cheap and no linux-problems" :) ronald -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAFVetoPgG5kUDwJIRAmh+AJ9rjgN9nwFAhk2jy6LlcC27rByG0QCePETR 5mk3HZzwi5yMAhVJXFEFync= =nM4S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 January 2004 14:58, JoeHill wrote: > Quote: > > "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with > Linux/Unix. The only recommended operating systems for using CD > writers are Windows 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do > not support most of the other operating systems. In other words: > under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work like a normal CD-ROM > drive." > While it is true that the programs supplied do not work with linux, the first sentence is unarguably wrong. Time to bombard them with complaints, folks. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 16:58, JoeHill wrote: > Quote: > > "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The > only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows > 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other > operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work > like a normal CD-ROM drive." > > Link: > > http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitem&group=cdrw&id=1 > > Here's where you can set them straight: > > http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact My response to Samsung: "I understand from your site that my CD writer does not work under Linux. However it works perfectly, usually I use the software package K3b, which I find as good as Ahead Nero for Windows. How can I stop it from recording?" Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
On Monday 26 January 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote: > Quote: > > "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. > The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows > 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the > other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers > will work like a normal CD-ROM drive." The correct text should probably read: "Almost no manufacturer in the market supports CD Writers as being compatible with Linux/Unixblah blah." Then it would be technically correct since I don't know of any manufacturer that supports their CD/DVD Writing products under Linux/Unix either. Then again, they don't support them as normal CD-ROM Drives either. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
Samsung Suicide? -Original Message- From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux." Quote: "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work like a normal CD-ROM drive." Link: http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitem&group=cdrw&; id=1 Here's where you can set them straight: http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it might also not be inaccurate, but I mean ... I'm disinclined to mislead anyone."-- Donald Rumsfeld -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com <http://www.bcpsoftware.com/> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samsung says: "CD Writers don't work under Linux."
Quote: "Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work like a normal CD-ROM drive." Link: http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitem&group=cdrw&id=1 Here's where you can set them straight: http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it might also not be inaccurate, but I mean ... I'm disinclined to mislead anyone."-- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
