Re: [newbie] Spammers
rikona wrote: Hello Dennis, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 2:38:24 PM, you wrote: DM Well I don't get much spam, but spamassassin has now been set up DM to use bysean (spelling?) algorythms and has caught 100% of the DM spam I have been sent. A question: does SA come with a separate set of 'rules', as SpamBouncer did? If not, how is it updated? Does the entire program get updated to keep up with the spammers? IIRC it uses Vipul's razor. Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Spammers
On Sunday 08 Jun 2003 11:24 pm, rikona wrote: Hello Dennis, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 2:38:24 PM, you wrote: DM Well I don't get much spam, but spamassassin has now been set up DM to use bysean (spelling?) algorythms and has caught 100% of the DM spam I have been sent. A question: does SA come with a separate set of 'rules', as SpamBouncer did? If not, how is it updated? Does the entire program get updated to keep up with the spammers? Spamassassin runs a suite of over 50 tests http://eu.spamassassin.org/tests.html some of which are the conventional style 'look for strings common in spams', while others look for evidence of fabricated headers, others refer to online databases of known spam sources or known spam mail checksums. Finally the latest techique is to use Baysian analysis to calculate the probability of a group of words appearing in a spam mail based on a textual analysis of every mail spam and non spam you have ever received. See here for a description of Bayes algorithms http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html Spamassassin does not rely on any one of these techniques to identfy spam. They all combine to reach a conclusion. See also http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=6669 Spamassassin does need to be updated periodically since spammers specifically set out to try to get low spamassassin scores, but updating consists simply of 'urpmi spamassassin' derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Spammers
Hello Robin, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 11:02:21 PM, you wrote: A question: does SA come with a separate set of 'rules', as SpamBouncer did? If not, how is it updated? Does the entire program get updated to keep up with the spammers? RT IIRC it uses Vipul's razor. Nice - more sophisticated than just rules. Might explain why it works so well. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[4]: [newbie] Spammers
Hello Derek, Monday, June 9, 2003, 12:00:57 AM, you wrote: DJ Spamassassin does need to be updated periodically since spammers DJ specifically set out to try to get low spamassassin scores, but DJ updating consists simply of 'urpmi spamassassin' Very informative, as usual. :-) -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:51:22 +0300 Gil Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Is there any way to block spammers? yes. Mailfilter, Spamassassin, or your mail client will all allow you to deal with spam in various ways. http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome in the list of topics there is one about Mailfilter, but it has a lot of info about Spamassassin as well. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 15:03:19 up 5 days, 13:07, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 14:51, Gil Katz wrote: Hi Is there any way to block spammers? Gil In kmail you can use filters. You can also use spamassassin. Some threads about it in the archives. Procmail can also help you to get rid of most spams. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //mobile: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax : +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
I must say that I'm becoming increasingly more satisfied with mozilla mail's junk mail filters. just train it for a few days and you just won't see spam again. people rave about spam assassin, but my eyes cross when I real the install instructions. Gil Katz wrote: Hi Is there any way to block spammers? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
On Sunday 08 Jun 2003 8:06 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:51:22 +0300 Gil Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Is there any way to block spammers? yes. Mailfilter, Spamassassin, or your mail client will all allow you to deal with spam in various ways. http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome in the list of topics there is one about Mailfilter, but it has a lot of info about Spamassassin as well. POPFile is another good one, and cross-platform. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
JoeHill wrote: in the list of topics there is one about Mailfilter Didn't some *crazy* guy write that? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:53:17 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Didn't some *crazy* guy write that? ya but then some even *crazier* people added to it, it's actually pretty comprehensive now. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 16:08:59 up 5 days, 14:12, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
Hello Gil, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 11:51:22 AM, you wrote: GK Is there any way to block spammers? My ISP uses SpamAssasin. It is also available for Mandrake, but I have not tried it since my ISP uses it. It is VERY effective[1% misclassified], but may need a lot of upkeep to stay effective. I used to use SpamBouncer before my ISP adopted SA. It was also very good, and the author kept up the needed rules files (quite extensive) which could be downloaded periodically. It was easy to install and use. Spam Assassin may also have such files that you can download. It would likely be a LOT of work to develop effective rules files for either one. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spammers
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 04:51, Gil Katz wrote: Hi Is there any way to block spammers? Gil SpamAssassin and using PROCMAIL rules. -- Mon Jun 9 09:30:01 EST 2003 09:30:01 up 1 day, 19:21, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Landru! Guide us! -- A Beta 3-oid, The Return of the Archons, stardate 3157.4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Spammers
Hey I have a copy of Back orifice on my RPM disk. Should we all send it to those lovely people who send us all this great mail? They may enjoy it -- QOTD: I'm not a nerd -- I'm "socially challenged".
