Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
Hi Todd, Just received your message today (Feb 1st!). In the meantime, I dumped the LM8.0 versions of Apache/PHP and tried source. Not much better. Anyway, I re-installed LM8.0 versions and, yes, in commonhttpd.conf there are those lines which I uncommented. Now, either as user or root, with the test file in /var/www/html, I still get text. So, how did you activate php? What did you do if you wanted to run a test to see if it was working? Where did you do it from (and did you try as user with permissions to the group apache? What should I expect to see? Unfortunately, I've trashed Netscape's mime-types after trying manually to insert the type: whenever I try a php file, it asks me where I want to save it. If only I could remember where I deleted entries like that in Netscape . . . : This has gone beyond an obsession. I've sort of lost track exactly why I want php installed, if the installtion causes so much grief, what about when it's in use? Anyway, thanks for the tip. If you've got any other suggestions to get this php thing php-ing, I I love to hear them! Regards, Andre On Tuesday 29 January 2002 17:15, you wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 03:20 pm, Andre Dubuc wrote: The problem with my LM8.0 configuration for Apache is that it doesn't have those lines AddType in any of the .conf files! I wondered what they were talking about -- and I have checked them all! In desperation, I finally decided to go source. I d/l the binary from Apache, and after my first attempt, I still cannot see my test file. I'll have to check my PHP config. I think my version of Apache is pretty recent. You don't have a file commonhttpd.conf in /etc/httpd/conf? Maybe do a find? This is about half-way through my commonhttpd.conf, and I just uncommented the last two lines: # AddType allows you to tweak mime.types without actually editing it, or to # make certain files to be certain types. # # For example, the PHP 3.x module (not part of the Apache distribution - see # http://www.php.net) will typically use: # #AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 #AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps # # And for PHP 4.x, use: # AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps I guess the nice thing about installing it from Mandrake disc is that it's already configured. I didn't touch any PHP file. Is moving up to 8.1 (or soon, 8.2) an option? Perhaps, that's the problem: I'm unclear where any files that I make should go. Are they supposed to be put in the /htdocs area in apache's directory? Will they work from elsewhere? I've also set up a /public_html directory in personal home directory. My web files go in /var/www/html. If your root is /htdocs, that's where I would put them. I'm not sure but what you may need to give permission to normal users to use PHP. Maybe try alt.os.linux.mandrake, a PHP or Apache group. Todd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 03:20 pm, Andre Dubuc wrote: The problem with my LM8.0 configuration for Apache is that it doesn't have those lines AddType in any of the .conf files! I wondered what they were talking about -- and I have checked them all! In desperation, I finally decided to go source. I d/l the binary from Apache, and after my first attempt, I still cannot see my test file. I'll have to check my PHP config. I think my version of Apache is pretty recent. You don't have a file commonhttpd.conf in /etc/httpd/conf? Maybe do a find? This is about half-way through my commonhttpd.conf, and I just uncommented the last two lines: # AddType allows you to tweak mime.types without actually editing it, or to # make certain files to be certain types. # # For example, the PHP 3.x module (not part of the Apache distribution - see # http://www.php.net) will typically use: # #AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 #AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps # # And for PHP 4.x, use: # AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps I guess the nice thing about installing it from Mandrake disc is that it's already configured. I didn't touch any PHP file. Is moving up to 8.1 (or soon, 8.2) an option? Perhaps, that's the problem: I'm unclear where any files that I make should go. Are they supposed to be put in the /htdocs area in apache's directory? Will they work from elsewhere? I've also set up a /public_html directory in personal home directory. My web files go in /var/www/html. If your root is /htdocs, that's where I would put them. I'm not sure but what you may need to give permission to normal users to use PHP. Maybe try alt.os.linux.mandrake, a PHP or Apache group. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
Sounds to me like to you don't have all the necessary apache rpm's installed. I'd recommend you go into software manager, select flat-listing and enter apache in the search box. Install anything which is shown. -Original Message- From: Andre Dubuc [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:21 PM To: Todd Slater Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:43, you wrote: Andre, I just got php up and running (I think) without a fuss. I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and I installed php, php-common, php-manual_en, and php-mysql. Then, I went to the Apache configuration folder--on my system /etc/httpd/conf. I opened commonhttpd.conf with vi, and scrolled down to the part about php. I just uncommented two lines (remove the #) about AddType blah blah .php and saved it. I stopped httpd. I started httpd I looked for the most basic script I could find because I don't know anything about it, and found a date one here: http://www.terrabyte.dc.com.au/phpscripts.php3. I put that in my web directory (renamed the text-file .php) and called it and it worked! I don't know if that will help or not. Todd Thanks Todd, The problem with my LM8.0 configuration for Apache is that it doesn't have those lines AddType in any of the .conf files! I wondered what they were talking about -- and I have checked them all! In desperation, I finally decided to go source. I d/l the binary from Apache, and after my first attempt, I still cannot see my test file. I'll have to check my PHP config. Perhaps, that's the problem: I'm unclear where any files that I make should go. Are they supposed to be put in the /htdocs area in apache's directory? Will they work from elsewhere? I've also set up a /public_html directory in personal home directory. I'm having all sorts of fun installing/uninstalling and generally messing about with these programs. Sure is a great way to find out where everything is, and how everything is inter-related. Too bad it doesn't work! Regards, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
Hi Steve, Well that option has been fully explored: I installed everything! Still no go. I just received my LM8.0 Update disk today and dumped my original config, reloaded everything, and I was very surprised to find the http.conf file exactly like the one that has the missing AddType lines. I didn't bother with the update disk -- I've already downloaded the Apache binary and have source PHP 4.1.1. This version of Apache has the AddType lines that can be uncommented. Now it seems to be more of a question of permissions for the php files. (At least I've seen the run-tests.php in action!) I don't know what was messed up with the stock LM8.0 config, but my guess, from examining the updates, is that PHP had caused a problem. I seem to luck-in with these no-go installations ! Anyway, It's been a great learning experience! (This is terribly excellent fun! Much better than the boring ...has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. At least this way I can mess it up some more! :) Thanks for your suggestion. Regards, Andre On Tuesday 29 January 2002 17:13, you wrote: Sounds to me like to you don't have all the necessary apache rpm's installed. I'd recommend you go into software manager, select flat-listing and enter apache in the search box. Install anything which is shown. -Original Message- From: Andre Dubuc [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:21 PM To: Todd Slater Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:43, you wrote: Andre, I just got php up and running (I think) without a fuss. I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and I installed php, php-common, php-manual_en, and php-mysql. Then, I went to the Apache configuration folder--on my system /etc/httpd/conf. I opened commonhttpd.conf with vi, and scrolled down to the part about php. I just uncommented two lines (remove the #) about AddType blah blah .php and saved it. I stopped httpd. I started httpd I looked for the most basic script I could find because I don't know anything about it, and found a date one here: http://www.terrabyte.dc.com.au/phpscripts.php3. I put that in my web directory (renamed the text-file .php) and called it and it worked! I don't know if that will help or not. Todd Thanks Todd, The problem with my LM8.0 configuration for Apache is that it doesn't have those lines AddType in any of the .conf files! I wondered what they were talking about -- and I have checked them all! In desperation, I finally decided to go source. I d/l the binary from Apache, and after my first attempt, I still cannot see my test file. I'll have to check my PHP config. Perhaps, that's the problem: I'm unclear where any files that I make should go. Are they supposed to be put in the /htdocs area in apache's directory? Will they work from elsewhere? I've also set up a /public_html directory in personal home directory. I'm having all sorts of fun installing/uninstalling and generally messing about with these programs. Sure is a great way to find out where everything is, and how everything is inter-related. Too bad it doesn't work! Regards, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
On Saturday 26 January 2002 10:27, you wrote: On Saturday 26 January 2002 09:53 am, Andre Dubuc wrote: I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Andre, I'm a newbie too, but I think this is one question I can answer! If you have httpd running, then Apache is running. By default it installs the web documents in the directory /var/www/html. There is also /var/www/cgi-bin where all the scripts can go. You can access your web stuff by typing http://localhost in your browser. If you know your IP address, you can type that in as well. You should get a page telling about the version of Apache that you are running. That's just to let you know that the server is running. To avoid having to be root to add/change to your web directory, you have to add yourself to the group Apache. This can be done using UserDrake. Then, you should give the group write access to /var/www. Do this by typing chmod g+w /var/www. That gives the group write permissions to the directory. You may have to log out and back in for that to take effect, I'm not sure. Then you should be able to edit and write new stuff in your /var/www/html directory. If your users want to have web pages, they have to create a directory in their home directory called public_html. That's where they put all their web stuff. Then the user has to issue the command chmod 755 ~USERNAME. Then the user's directory can be reached by http://yourip/~username;. HTH, Todd Hi Todd, I've been struggling with the PHP module trying to get it to work. I've followed your instructions, but the Apache module doesn't seem to recognize PHP. I ran the test.php (? phpinfo() ; ?) and I just see the text as it is written here. In the docs, they mention that I should ad AddType application/x-http-php .php in the http.conf. I'm not exactly sure where I should add this: I've placed it after the include statement in the Global Configuration. Problem is: in the Mime.types it doesn't show up. I can't get the AddType to work, so of course, PHP is non-functional in any test. I've d/l the newest stable version of PHP, followed all the instructions (with/without, in various combinations, the following: Mysql, Postgresql, Apache. PHP) I've tried the bare-bones approach: only Apache and PHP - installing PHP 1st, then Apache first from LM8.0. Nothing seems to work. I do get the Apache splash screen. I've loaded Webmin, and then removed it with little effect. (I've followed PHP instructions --with-mysql=/path. ...) This is becoming an obsession -- almost like my attempts with HylaFax! If you have any ideas on how to get PHP up-and-running, I'd greatly appreciate your assistance. I can't develop my new web-site until I get PHP functional. Perhaps you could send me a copy of your (working) httpd.conf and php.ini files so I could maybe see what I've messed up. (Btw, in my last LM8.0 install of PHP, I couldn't find php.ini anywhere. Sorry to be so long-winded, but this is . . . sigh! Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
I'm not even sure how to ask this: that's how abysmal my knowledge of servers. I would like to learn scripting in PHP, and I need to run an Apache server to test the code. I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
Take a look at http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/PHP/SoothinglySeamless/page1.html , which guides you step by step through setting up an apache web server, along with mysql, php, and mod_ssl. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:53 AM 01/26/2002 -0500, Andre Dubuc wrote: I'm not even sure how to ask this: that's how abysmal my knowledge of servers. I would like to learn scripting in PHP, and I need to run an Apache server to test the code. I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
I picked up a book, PHP Fast Easy Web Development, by Julie C. Meloni, and it comes with a CD containing Apache, PHP and MySQL - both Windows and Linux versions. The explanations and exercises are very good. Andre Dubuc wrote: I'm not even sure how to ask this: that's how abysmal my knowledge of servers. I would like to learn scripting in PHP, and I need to run an Apache server to test the code. I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Tia, Andre -- Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
The htpd you are seeing is the Apache deamon. To be sure that php is working, do httpd -l from the command line and you will see the compiled modules - or view them from webmin since you have it running. Also, if you start a browser and try http://127.0.0.1 the Apache info and congratualtions page will pop up Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA ~~~ Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love. ~ Albert Einstein On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Andre Dubuc wrote: I'm not even sure how to ask this: that's how abysmal my knowledge of servers. I would like to learn scripting in PHP, and I need to run an Apache server to test the code. I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
On Saturday 26 January 2002 10:27, you wrote: On Saturday 26 January 2002 09:53 am, Andre Dubuc wrote: I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Andre, I'm a newbie too, but I think this is one question I can answer! If you have httpd running, then Apache is running. By default it installs the web documents in the directory /var/www/html. There is also /var/www/cgi-bin where all the scripts can go. You can access your web stuff by typing http://localhost in your browser. If you know your IP address, you can type that in as well. You should get a page telling about the version of Apache that you are running. That's just to let you know that the server is running. To avoid having to be root to add/change to your web directory, you have to add yourself to the group Apache. This can be done using UserDrake. Then, you should give the group write access to /var/www. Do this by typing chmod g+w /var/www. That gives the group write permissions to the directory. You may have to log out and back in for that to take effect, I'm not sure. Then you should be able to edit and write new stuff in your /var/www/html directory. If your users want to have web pages, they have to create a directory in their home directory called public_html. That's where they put all their web stuff. Then the user has to issue the command chmod 755 ~USERNAME. Then the user's directory can be reached by http://yourip/~username;. HTH, Todd Thanks Todd, That ot me up-and-running! I also understand what httpd is now (I never noticed the comments on the bottom of LinuxConf screen when I checked httpd!) I still can't load any php test scripts, even though the modules are loaded in httpd.conf. I wonder whether the test script needs to be written in php.4 (it's php.3) -- even though I loaded the older modules as well in httpd.conf. Obviously, I think you can tell I don't know what I'm doing here! I think I'll have to do some reading as Michael suggested . . . sigh! One last thing, what effect will chmod g+w /var/www have on Bastille? It doesn't seem to like that command too much. I'm a littel leary about changing pemissions to programs and files that I don't know too much about. Regard, Andre Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
Thanks Ed, I tried httpd -l from the command line and I got: bash: httpd: command not found (neither as ~ or root) I wonder whether php is working, since the little php test script doesn't work. Any ideas? Tia, Regards, Andre On Saturday 26 January 2002 11:12, you wrote: The htpd you are seeing is the Apache deamon. To be sure that php is working, do httpd -l from the command line and you will see the compiled modules - or view them from webmin since you have it running. Also, if you start a browser and try http://127.0.0.1 the Apache info and congratualtions page will pop up Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA ~~~ Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love. ~ Albert Einstein On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Andre Dubuc wrote: I'm not even sure how to ask this: that's how abysmal my knowledge of servers. I would like to learn scripting in PHP, and I need to run an Apache server to test the code. I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin are running. What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up server/client on my machine.) If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running! Help? Tia, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the suffering souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP
Yes, the ISBN is 0-7615-3055-x. It's published by Prima Tech. sda wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 10:26:34AM -0500, Larry Varney wrote: I picked up a book, PHP Fast Easy Web Development, by Julie C. Meloni, and it comes with a CD containing Apache, PHP and MySQL - both Windows and Linux versions. The explanations and exercises are very good. Larry - do you have the ISBN# for this book? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
