Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-27 Thread Tango Echo
Also, I could be wrong here, but the polling method
MAY be faulty.  I'm suspicious of Gentooers - maybe
this is what they do: Go to the site, place the vote,
clear the cookies, refresh the page, place the vote,
rinse and repeat...?  If you sit there and refresh the
page you'll notice at least 3 votes every 5 seconds -
steady stream or something else?  

Now if we see the Mandrake popularity go thru the roof
we'll know whats going on ;)


--- Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have to put these things in perspective: it's not
 a scientific pol.,
 It may just be that more Gentoo types hang around
 Novell. And the
 Gentoo people probably told all their friends to
 vote to make it look
 more popular. How despicable :-D
 
 Miark
 
 
 
 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:00:59 +0100 Inhabitant of
 Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.
  
  I've never used it myself and never had anybody
 ever recommend it to me
  either.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-27 Thread Aron Smith
Use the Chicago method Vote early and often
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:20, Tango Echo wrote:
 Also, I could be wrong here, but the polling method
 MAY be faulty.  I'm suspicious of Gentooers - maybe
 this is what they do: Go to the site, place the vote,
 clear the cookies, refresh the page, place the vote,
 rinse and repeat...?  If you sit there and refresh the
 page you'll notice at least 3 votes every 5 seconds -
 steady stream or something else?  
 
 Now if we see the Mandrake popularity go thru the roof
 we'll know whats going on ;)
 
 
 --- Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We have to put these things in perspective: it's not
  a scientific pol.,
  It may just be that more Gentoo types hang around
  Novell. And the
  Gentoo people probably told all their friends to
  vote to make it look
  more popular. How despicable :-D
  
  Miark
  
  
  
  On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:00:59 +0100 Inhabitant of
  Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.
   
   I've never used it myself and never had anybody
  ever recommend it to me
   either.
  
  
   Want to buy your Pack or Services from
 MandrakeSoft?
  
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  
 
 
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RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake! Support Mandrake if your one of us.!!!

2003-06-26 Thread Frankie
I will second this...

Anyone that cares about mandrake linux should vote for Mandrake ...

If novell end up extending their support to add Mandrake to the 
list as well as Redhat and SUSE (the later of which mandrake is 
currently tied with on the novell survey.) It will give mandrake 
a slice of the enterprise market that they could surely benefit from.

Comeon guys, support your favorite distro,, this is the sort of thing
that gets linux on corporate desktops.. lets make an effort to make
Mandrake one of them.

http://www.novell.com/linux/

regards

Franki



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Subject: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!


Let Novell know who ya love :-)

  http://www.novell.com/linux/

See the poll in the right-most column.

Miark



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Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-26 Thread John Wilson
On June 25, 2003 11:00 am, Inhabitant of Zion did come from Mt Siani and 
speak:
 I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.

 I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me
 either.

 John

I'm surprise too.  Also surprised the Debian is as popular as it seems.  
Unless Gentoo and Debian geeks are even more vociferous than the rest of us.

As for the Red Hat-SuSE-Mandrake numbers they are about what I expected them 
to be.

ttfn

John

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RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-26 Thread Frankie
They did.. its classed as none  :-)


rgds

Franki

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Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 1:32 AM
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On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:03 pm, Miark wrote:
 Let Novell know who ya love :-)

   http://www.novell.com/linux/

 See the poll in the right-most column.

 Miark


Miark:
Done. Gee, I wonder why they didn't have SC0/Caldera's Linux listed.
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RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-26 Thread Burrows, Scott
RANT

Mandrake IS popular.

Don't base your opinion on how popular Mandrake upon a Novell survey.  Geeze
before yesturday I don't think I've ever been to Novell's site.  No reason
to go.  

How many MDK'ers arn't voting because THEY never go to Novells site and have
no idea there's a poll being taken?  In fact if I wasn't on this list I
would not have known to vote.  How many MDKers are not on this list and so
don't know to go to Novells site to vote?

I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list.

Maybe the Gentoo folks went out of their way to inform the 20 or so Gentoo
users to all go vote.  (OK, I'm sure theres more than 20)

There are alot more MDKers than puny Novell's site says.

phew!

Scott

/RANT

-Original Message-
From: John Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!


On June 25, 2003 11:00 am, Inhabitant of Zion did come from Mt Siani and 
speak:
 I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.

 I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me
 either.

 John

I'm surprise too.  Also surprised the Debian is as popular as it seems.  
Unless Gentoo and Debian geeks are even more vociferous than the rest of us.

As for the Red Hat-SuSE-Mandrake numbers they are about what I expected them

to be.

ttfn

John


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RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-26 Thread Aron Smith
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 06:41, Burrows, Scott wrote:
 RANT
 
 Mandrake IS popular.
 
 Don't base your opinion on how popular Mandrake upon a Novell survey.  Geeze
 before yesturday I don't think I've ever been to Novell's site.  No reason
 to go.  
 
 How many MDK'ers arn't voting because THEY never go to Novells site and have
 no idea there's a poll being taken?  In fact if I wasn't on this list I
 would not have known to vote.  How many MDKers are not on this list and so
 don't know to go to Novells site to vote?
 
 I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list.
 
 Maybe the Gentoo folks went out of their way to inform the 20 or so Gentoo
 users to all go vote.  (OK, I'm sure theres more than 20)
 
 There are alot more MDKers than puny Novell's site says.
 
 phew!
 
 Scott
 
 /RANT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
 
 
 On June 25, 2003 11:00 am, Inhabitant of Zion did come from Mt Siani and 
 speak:
  I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.
 
  I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me
  either.
 
  John
 
 I'm surprise too.  Also surprised the Debian is as popular as it seems.  
 Unless Gentoo and Debian geeks are even more vociferous than the rest of us.
 
 As for the Red Hat-SuSE-Mandrake numbers they are about what I expected them
 
 to be.
 
 ttfn
 
 JohnWhats Gentoo :-
 
 
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RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-26 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:41, Burrows, Scott wrote:
 RANT
 Mandrake IS popular.
 I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list.
 /RANT

There are unbelievable amounts of linux users, let alone Mandrake users
- but you have to figure that MAYBE 20% of them even participate in the
email lists, votes, or what have you.

Think about THIS for a second:

IF every single linux user actually were tallied up, do you REALLY think
that any of the statistics that are compiled by newsworthy sources
would report Microsoft being 90% of the desktop market? I hardly would
think so.

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Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-26 Thread Robin Turner
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:41, Burrows, Scott wrote:

RANT
Mandrake IS popular.
I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list.
/RANT


There are unbelievable amounts of linux users, let alone Mandrake users
- but you have to figure that MAYBE 20% of them even participate in the
email lists, votes, or what have you.
Think about THIS for a second:

IF every single linux user actually were tallied up, do you REALLY think
that any of the statistics that are compiled by newsworthy sources
would report Microsoft being 90% of the desktop market? I hardly would
think so.
I wonder how they compile these statistics.  It's quite possible that 
since my computer came with Windows 98 (first edition - aaargh!), I too 
am counted in with that supposed 90%.

There's also the question of how you define desktop.  My computer at 
work runs Mandrake, and we use it for Samba printing and FTP.  Does that 
make it count towards the desktop statistics or the server statistics? 
The whole Desktop PC thing is an IBM/MS invention, from the days when 
they were still in bed together (OK, they might not have invented the 
actual word, but they spread the idea).  We Linux users do not have 
Desktop PCs, we have _workstations_!

Fear the penguin.

Sir Robin

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drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some
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Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-25 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.

I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me
either.

John

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Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-25 Thread Miark
We have to put these things in perspective: it's not a scientific pol.,
It may just be that more Gentoo types hang around Novell. And the
Gentoo people probably told all their friends to vote to make it look
more popular. How despicable :-D

Miark



On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:00:59 +0100 Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular.
 
 I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me
 either.


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[newbie] Vote for Mandrake!

2003-06-25 Thread Miark
Let Novell know who ya love :-)

  http://www.novell.com/linux/

See the poll in the right-most column.

Miark

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