Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
At 22:03 11.07.00, you wrote: >The date was 11 of July 2000, when was written: > > > > >>You have a couple of options. Note this is all theory as I only run with > >>one user id and "su root" when I need to so I haven't had your problem. > > > >so every time u login with your user id and need imwheel u su and start it > >manually ? > >That would be rude! > >Even while I dont need it, inwheel is installed here in >/usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel and persmissions are set as > >[paul@internet paul]$ ls /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel -l >-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 45392 Apr 12 16:33 /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel* > >Check this, and make sure that the x's are the same with you. The first >from left is executable for root, the middle one is executable for group, >the rightmost is executable for user. hmm.they are indeed the same...permissions.. >Paul > >-- >Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. >BEGIN IT NOW ! >-Goethe > >)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( >http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 >Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
The date was 11 of July 2000, when was written: > >>You have a couple of options. Note this is all theory as I only run with >>one user id and "su root" when I need to so I haven't had your problem. > >so every time u login with your user id and need imwheel u su and start it >manually ? That would be rude! Even while I dont need it, inwheel is installed here in /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel and persmissions are set as [paul@internet paul]$ ls /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel -l -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 45392 Apr 12 16:33 /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel* Check this, and make sure that the x's are the same with you. The first from left is executable for root, the middle one is executable for group, the rightmost is executable for user. Paul -- Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. BEGIN IT NOW ! -Goethe )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
At 05:59 11.07.00, you wrote: >Dave - > >The problem is that imwheel writes a file /tmp/imwheel.pid where it keeps >track of the pid of imwheel so the "imwheel -k" command can be used to kill >a currently running imwheel and start a new one. imwheel has a nasty habit >of leaving its pid file around and it sets the user and group to the user >creating it and permissions to rw for only the user creating it. So it >sounds like you have an imwheel.pid file in /tmp that only root and read and >write. hmm..the point is.im not even able to start it the first time as user.. so.according what u said..i should be able to start it once..?.dont i ? >You have a couple of options. Note this is all theory as I only run with >one user id and "su root" when I need to so I haven't had your problem. so every time u login with your user id and need imwheel u su and start it manually ? >That said, you can "chmod a+rw /tmp/imwheel.pid" and hope imwheel doesn't >manage to delete it or your system cleanup doesn't delete it. Or you can >try using "imwheel -p" to forego writing the pid file. Then you takes your >chances that you don't end up running two copies of imwheel and making >things act goofy. This might happen if you put it in your autostart folder. >A recent post about putting the imwheel command in the Xsession script might >be a better idea for this option. Lastly, you could write a script that >starts imwheel and does the "chmod a+rw /tmp/imwheel.pid" in case it is >freshly created and put that in your autostart folder. > >- Ralph > >----- Original Message - >From: "Quaylar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:54 AM >Subject: Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver > > > > At 11:41 10.07.00, you wrote: > > > > > > hi harry/ralph > > > > i was trying too what ralph described, but for some reason i cant start > > imwheel as user.only as root. > > typing imwheel -k as user results in following : > > > > couldnt write pid to pid file : no permission > > > > i already changed permissions on /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel* with chown and > > chgrp , also $HOME/.imwheelrc > > but problem remains.. > > srolling with mousewheel as root user works pretty good-would > > appreciate doing it as normal user too. > > > > hope u can help > > > > --dave
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
At 23:15 10.07.00, you wrote: i only have one more user...like you.and it is member of the root group..h...so this shouldnt be the source of my problem.. --quay >Depends upon how many users you have. I just have root and one user for >myself so far. I have added myself to the root group. That may be >working for me. I changed the lines in the XF86Config file too to get >it working. > >Harry > > >Quaylar wrote: > > > > At 11:41 10.07.00, you wrote: > > > > hi harry/ralph > > > > i was trying too what ralph described, but for some reason i cant start > > imwheel as user.only as root. > > typing imwheel -k as user results in following : > > > > couldnt write pid to pid file : no permission > > > > i already changed permissions on /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel* with chown and > > chgrp , also $HOME/.imwheelrc > > but problem remains.. > > srolling with mousewheel as root user works pretty good-would > > appreciate doing it as normal user too. > > > > hope u can help > > > > --dave > > > > >Ralph, > > > > > >Thanks for the info, this worked wonderfully. I did have one x-windows > > >crash since doing this, so I don't know if it's due to the mouse or > > >not. When it crashed to the console, I noticed that the mouse was able > > >to move the cursor around the screen of the console. Will keep an eye > > >on this. > > > > > >I had tried all.including just putting imwheel in the autostart > > >folder. Deleting those lines and adding the one you said to was > > >perfect. > > > > > >Harry > > > > > > > > >Ralph Day wrote: > > > > > > > > That should be: "imwheel -k" in your Autostart folder > > > > > > > > There are a few other things I've had to do to get imwheel to work. > > > > > > > > First, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config: > > > > > > > > Find the lines follwing Section "Pointer" > > > > Change the line that says Protocol "PS/2" to Protocol "imps/2" > > > > Comment out the two lines using a # at the start of the line > > > > Emulate3Buttons > > > > Emulate3TimeOut 50 > > > > Add a line: > > > > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > > > > > > > If you have a serial mouse, set the protocol line to "IntelliMouse" or > > > > "Auto". > > > > Don't add the line Buttons 3 to the XF86Config file like the doc > says. It > > > > caused my PS/2 Intellimouse wheels buttons to act like left and middle > > > > click. > > > > > > > > Copy /etc/X11/imwheelrc to $HOME/.imwheelrc > > > > > > > > HTH - Ralph > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Andrew Scotchmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:13 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I > > > > > > enable this under KDE? > > > > > > > > > > > > Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it > > > possible > > > > > > to use the wheel mouse under KDE? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harry > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I use a microsoft intelli-mouse and have the wheel running perfectly. > > > > > Open autostart and place into it a new application. > > > > > Under execute type: imwheel %f > > > > > -- > > > > > Andrew > > > > > >-- > > >___ > > >Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 > > >http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman > > >ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769 > >-- >___ >Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 >http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman >ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
Dave - The problem is that imwheel writes a file /tmp/imwheel.pid where it keeps track of the pid of imwheel so the "imwheel -k" command can be used to kill a currently running imwheel and start a new one. imwheel has a nasty habit of leaving its pid file around and it sets the user and group to the user creating it and permissions to rw for only the user creating it. So it sounds like you have an imwheel.pid file in /tmp that only root and read and write. You have a couple of options. Note this is all theory as I only run with one user id and "su root" when I need to so I haven't had your problem. That said, you can "chmod a+rw /tmp/imwheel.pid" and hope imwheel doesn't manage to delete it or your system cleanup doesn't delete it. Or you can try using "imwheel -p" to forego writing the pid file. Then you takes your chances that you don't end up running two copies of imwheel and making things act goofy. This might happen if you put it in your autostart folder. A recent post about putting the imwheel command in the Xsession script might be a better idea for this option. Lastly, you could write a script that starts imwheel and does the "chmod a+rw /tmp/imwheel.pid" in case it is freshly created and put that in your autostart folder. - Ralph - Original Message - From: "Quaylar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver > At 11:41 10.07.00, you wrote: > > > hi harry/ralph > > i was trying too what ralph described, but for some reason i cant start > imwheel as user.only as root. > typing imwheel -k as user results in following : > > couldnt write pid to pid file : no permission > > i already changed permissions on /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel* with chown and > chgrp , also $HOME/.imwheelrc > but problem remains.. > srolling with mousewheel as root user works pretty good-would > appreciate doing it as normal user too. > > hope u can help > > --dave
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
At 11:41 10.07.00, you wrote: hi harry/ralph i was trying too what ralph described, but for some reason i cant start imwheel as user.only as root. typing imwheel -k as user results in following : couldnt write pid to pid file : no permission i already changed permissions on /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel* with chown and chgrp , also $HOME/.imwheelrc but problem remains.. srolling with mousewheel as root user works pretty good-would appreciate doing it as normal user too. hope u can help --dave >Ralph, > >Thanks for the info, this worked wonderfully. I did have one x-windows >crash since doing this, so I don't know if it's due to the mouse or >not. When it crashed to the console, I noticed that the mouse was able >to move the cursor around the screen of the console. Will keep an eye >on this. > >I had tried all.including just putting imwheel in the autostart >folder. Deleting those lines and adding the one you said to was >perfect. > >Harry > > >Ralph Day wrote: > > > > That should be: "imwheel -k" in your Autostart folder > > > > There are a few other things I've had to do to get imwheel to work. > > > > First, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config: > > > > Find the lines follwing Section "Pointer" > > Change the line that says Protocol "PS/2" to Protocol "imps/2" > > Comment out the two lines using a # at the start of the line > > Emulate3Buttons > > Emulate3TimeOut 50 > > Add a line: > > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > > > If you have a serial mouse, set the protocol line to "IntelliMouse" or > > "Auto". > > Don't add the line Buttons 3 to the XF86Config file like the doc says. It > > caused my PS/2 Intellimouse wheels buttons to act like left and middle > > click. > > > > Copy /etc/X11/imwheelrc to $HOME/.imwheelrc > > > > HTH - Ralph > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Andrew Scotchmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver > > > > > On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I > > > > enable this under KDE? > > > > > > > > Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it > possible > > > > to use the wheel mouse under KDE? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Harry > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I use a microsoft intelli-mouse and have the wheel running perfectly. > > > Open autostart and place into it a new application. > > > Under execute type: imwheel %f > > > -- > > > Andrew > >-- >___ >Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 >http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman >ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
Glad I could help - its what the newbie list is all about. This one drove me crazy for a while too. I haven't had any X crashes with imwheel yet but I'm on LM 7.1 now which comes with a newer version of imwheel. I believe the ability to move the cursor around the console is a function of gpm, not X or imwheel so its probably unrelated to the crash. - Ralph - Original Message - From: "Harry Flaxman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver > Ralph, > > Thanks for the info, this worked wonderfully. I did have one x-windows > crash since doing this, so I don't know if it's due to the mouse or > not. When it crashed to the console, I noticed that the mouse was able > to move the cursor around the screen of the console. Will keep an eye > on this. > > I had tried all.including just putting imwheel in the autostart > folder. Deleting those lines and adding the one you said to was > perfect. > > Harry >
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
Here is how I got it to work in 7.0. Upgrade to the latest version of imwheel then edit /etc/X11/Xsession and you'll see "(fg) Starting imwheel from here works" around line 78. I commented out the 3 lines under that and just put "/usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel -k" above it and it works. I think the key is upgrading to the latest version. Hope this helps. -- Original Message -- From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:47:49 +0200 (CEST) >On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: > >>Thanks for the info Paul. I have imwheel installed. It starts, but >>still I get no wheel support in KDE. Is the package supposed to be >>started before KDE comes up? I haven't tried that yet. >> >>Again, thanks. >> >>Harry > >As you may have seen or missed: another post stated to create a new option >in the autostart folder, and execute "imwheel %f" in that. That should do >it. (Can't check it, I use a trackball). > >Paul > >-- >Quantity is no substitute for quality > >)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( >http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 >Registered Linux User 174403 > >
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: >Thanks for the info Paul. I have imwheel installed. It starts, but >still I get no wheel support in KDE. Is the package supposed to be >started before KDE comes up? I haven't tried that yet. > >Again, thanks. > >Harry As you may have seen or missed: another post stated to create a new option in the autostart folder, and execute "imwheel %f" in that. That should do it. (Can't check it, I use a trackball). Paul -- Quantity is no substitute for quality )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
Harryhave you read the files in this directory? /usr/doc/imwheel-0.9.8/ Alan Harry Flaxman wrote: > > Thanks for the info Paul. I have imwheel installed. It starts, but > still I get no wheel support in KDE. Is the package supposed to be > started before KDE comes up? I haven't tried that yet. > > Again, thanks. > > Harry > > Paul wrote: > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: > > > > >I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I > > >enable this under KDE? > > > > > >Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it possible > > >to use the wheel mouse under KDE? > > > > Log in as root, (or do "su"), find "imwheelrpm" on the distro-cd and > > install that with rpm -i /imwheel...rpm (or use kpackage / GnoRPM) > > > > Sure it is possible, after installing this. > > > > Paul > > > > -- > > In every loss there is gain, > > as there is gain in every loss... > > > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > -- > ___ > Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 > http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman > ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
That should be: "imwheel -k" in your Autostart folder There are a few other things I've had to do to get imwheel to work. First, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config: Find the lines follwing Section "Pointer" Change the line that says Protocol "PS/2" to Protocol "imps/2" Comment out the two lines using a # at the start of the line Emulate3Buttons Emulate3TimeOut 50 Add a line: ZAxisMapping 4 5 If you have a serial mouse, set the protocol line to "IntelliMouse" or "Auto". Don't add the line Buttons 3 to the XF86Config file like the doc says. It caused my PS/2 Intellimouse wheels buttons to act like left and middle click. Copy /etc/X11/imwheelrc to $HOME/.imwheelrc HTH - Ralph - Original Message - From: "Andrew Scotchmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver > On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I > > enable this under KDE? > > > > Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it possible > > to use the wheel mouse under KDE? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Harry > > > Hi, > > I use a microsoft intelli-mouse and have the wheel running perfectly. > Open autostart and place into it a new application. > Under execute type: imwheel %f > -- > Andrew
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
Thanks for the info Paul. I have imwheel installed. It starts, but still I get no wheel support in KDE. Is the package supposed to be started before KDE comes up? I haven't tried that yet. Again, thanks. Harry Paul wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: > > >I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I > >enable this under KDE? > > > >Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it possible > >to use the wheel mouse under KDE? > > Log in as root, (or do "su"), find "imwheelrpm" on the distro-cd and > install that with rpm -i /imwheel...rpm (or use kpackage / GnoRPM) > > Sure it is possible, after installing this. > > Paul > > -- > In every loss there is gain, > as there is gain in every loss... > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I > enable this under KDE? > > Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it possible > to use the wheel mouse under KDE? > > Thanks. > > Harry > Hi, I use a microsoft intelli-mouse and have the wheel running perfectly. Open autostart and place into it a new application. Under execute type: imwheel %f -- Andrew
Re: [newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: >I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I >enable this under KDE? > >Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it possible >to use the wheel mouse under KDE? Log in as root, (or do "su"), find "imwheelrpm" on the distro-cd and install that with rpm -i /imwheel...rpm (or use kpackage / GnoRPM) Sure it is possible, after installing this. Paul -- In every loss there is gain, as there is gain in every loss... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] Wheel Mouse Driver
I know that Mandrake 7.0 comes with a wheel mouse driver. How do I enable this under KDE? Supposedly, that was one of the last updates was for it. Is it possible to use the wheel mouse under KDE? Thanks. Harry -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769
