Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?

2001-12-28 Thread J. v. Maasdam

Hi Doug,

Don't know much about Linux, as I just installed ML8.1 myself one week
ago. Trying to find help on driver install in this corner.
With my system all install went well. You might look in your windows
2000 partition for the file BOOT.INI. This should be something like:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINNT=Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional /fastdetect

The last number (3) is the bootpartition number for w2000.
Try any number between 0 and the maximum partitions on your drive.
The file is attributes h,s,r so under dos first revert those attribs to
be able to see the file. (attrib -s -r -h and after edit attrib +h +r
+s).
Maybe linux has made your first partition a other number. So W2000 sees
its partition on an other number also.

Maybe this will help you a bit further.

Jan van Maasdam.

Doug Lerner schreef:
 
 Hi,
 
 No - I didn't do anything special. I started out with two partitions on
 my hard drive. The first one contained Windows 98 and the second
 contained Windows 2000. I decided to keep the Win 2000 partition so I
 clicked on the first partition, deleted it and then pressed auto-
 allocate. When I did that the Mandrake installer allocated Linux
 partitions to the area left by the first partition.




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[newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?

2001-12-25 Thread Doug Lerner

This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see
anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over
with both Windows and Linux? 

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/jp106.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda5
append= devfs=mount
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda5
append= devfs=mount failsafe
read-only
other=/dev/hda2
label=windows
table=/dev/hda

Thanks,

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote:
 I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It
 doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the
 startup screen.


Maybe, post your lilo.conf
Also explain which drine/partition windows is on.
We might see something, else its difficult to help

Gerald

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Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?

2001-12-25 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz


hi,

  just curious, did you do something special with the way you partitioned your
harddisk? your linux boot image points out to hda5 which is the first logical
partition but your windows entry points out to hda2. i know that this is normal
on some circumstances especially if the disk is a product of Ghost or something
similar but here in the office 9 windows pc broke down due to some problem with
Ghost.

  as i have said, this is just to satisfy my curiosity and no help is included
;-)

ciao!

Doug Lerner wrote:

 This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see
 anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over
 with both Windows and Linux?

 boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
 install=/boot/boot.b
 vga=normal
 default=linux
 keytable=/boot/jp106.klt
 lba32
 prompt
 timeout=50
 message=/boot/message
 menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hda5
 append= devfs=mount
 read-only
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=failsafe
 root=/dev/hda5
 append= devfs=mount failsafe
 read-only
 other=/dev/hda2
 label=windows
 table=/dev/hda

 Thanks,

 doug

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

 On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote:
  I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It
  doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the
  startup screen.
 
 
 Maybe, post your lilo.conf
 Also explain which drine/partition windows is on.
 We might see something, else its difficult to help
 
 Gerald
 
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Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?

2001-12-25 Thread Doug Lerner


Hi,

No - I didn't do anything special. I started out with two partitions on
my hard drive. The first one contained Windows 98 and the second
contained Windows 2000. I decided to keep the Win 2000 partition so I
clicked on the first partition, deleted it and then pressed auto-
allocate. When I did that the Mandrake installer allocated Linux
partitions to the area left by the first partition.

If the Installer had said something like Warning: if you want to keep
Windows make sure to keep it in the first partition I would have kept
the Windows 98 and deleted the Windows 2000 partition.

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001):


hi,

  just curious, did you do something special with the way you
partitioned your
harddisk? your linux boot image points out to hda5 which is the first logical
partition but your windows entry points out to hda2. i know that this is
normal
on some circumstances especially if the disk is a product of Ghost or
something
similar but here in the office 9 windows pc broke down due to some
problem with
Ghost.

  as i have said, this is just to satisfy my curiosity and no help is
included
;-)

ciao!

Doug Lerner wrote:

 This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see
 anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over
 with both Windows and Linux?

 boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
 install=/boot/boot.b
 vga=normal
 default=linux
 keytable=/boot/jp106.klt
 lba32
 prompt
 timeout=50
 message=/boot/message
 menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hda5
 append= devfs=mount
 read-only
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=failsafe
 root=/dev/hda5
 append= devfs=mount failsafe
 read-only
 other=/dev/hda2
 label=windows
 table=/dev/hda

 Thanks,

 doug

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

 On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote:
  I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable*
again. It
  doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the
  startup screen.
 
 
 Maybe, post your lilo.conf
 Also explain which drine/partition windows is on.
 We might see something, else its difficult to help
 
 Gerald
 
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

   
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Design Engineer
Millennium Software, Incorporated
25/F Equitable-PCI Tower
ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St.
Ortigas Center, Pasig City

Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72
Fax# 638-3079
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Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?

2001-12-25 Thread Terry Smith

Doug,

Check your address header. You are sending two copies of your mesages to
the list.

Your windows partition is at hda2 - the second partition on the primary
hard drive. That's going to cause a problem. Windows insists that it be
the first partition. Changing lilo.conf won't help.

The only reliable way to set up a dual (or higher) boot setup with
Windows is to install Windows first, let it format the whole drive and
then grab as much of the free space as appropriate during the Mandrake
install.

If you've got bunches of stuff on the Windows partition, you may want to
borrow another drive and copy the Win to that. Then reinstall Windows,
reformatting the drive FAT32, copy your files back to that drive, make
sure you've defragmented the drive and then reinstall Mandrake, having
DiskDrake take the total space you need from the Windows
partition,setting up your /, /boot, /home, swap, etc. partitions.

Most of the stuff I've seen on dual booting does point this out -
including the Mandrake documentation. I'm sure that doesn't make you
feel any better at this point, however. Good luck.

Terry Smith
Hatchville, MA
 
On Tue, 2001-12-25 at 20:21, Doug Lerner wrote:
 This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see
 anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over
 with both Windows and Linux? 
 
 boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
 install=/boot/boot.b
 vga=normal
 default=linux
 keytable=/boot/jp106.klt
 lba32
 prompt
 timeout=50
 message=/boot/message
 menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=linux
   root=/dev/hda5
   append= devfs=mount
   read-only
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=failsafe
   root=/dev/hda5
   append= devfs=mount failsafe
   read-only
 other=/dev/hda2
   label=windows
   table=/dev/hda
 
 Thanks,
 
 doug
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
 
 On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote:
  I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It
  doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the
  startup screen.
 
 
 Maybe, post your lilo.conf
 Also explain which drine/partition windows is on.
 We might see something, else its difficult to help
 
 Gerald
 
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Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?

2001-12-25 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz


hmmnn... i remember that somebody already mentioned that windows stops checking
for partitions on the first non-recognized partition and in your case that will be
the first partition occupied by linux. but in my meager understanding, lilo was
supposed to point to the bootable partition so windows should identify the second
partition as the 'first partition' relatively. I know windows 'need' to be on one
of the primary partitions of the first drive so that's another dead end.


this is the part when i shut up and let others with experience come in. ;-)

ciao!

Doug Lerner wrote:

 Hi,

 No - I didn't do anything special. I started out with two partitions on
 my hard drive. The first one contained Windows 98 and the second
 contained Windows 2000. I decided to keep the Win 2000 partition so I
 clicked on the first partition, deleted it and then pressed auto-
 allocate. When I did that the Mandrake installer allocated Linux
 partitions to the area left by the first partition.

 If the Installer had said something like Warning: if you want to keep
 Windows make sure to keep it in the first partition I would have kept
 the Windows 98 and deleted the Windows 2000 partition.

 doug

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001):

 
 hi,
 
   just curious, did you do something special with the way you
 partitioned your
 harddisk? your linux boot image points out to hda5 which is the first logical
 partition but your windows entry points out to hda2. i know that this is
 normal
 on some circumstances especially if the disk is a product of Ghost or
 something
 similar but here in the office 9 windows pc broke down due to some
 problem with
 Ghost.
 
   as i have said, this is just to satisfy my curiosity and no help is
 included
 ;-)
 
 ciao!
 
 Doug Lerner wrote:
 
  This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see
  anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over
  with both Windows and Linux?
 
  boot=/dev/hda
  map=/boot/map
  install=/boot/boot.b
  vga=normal
  default=linux
  keytable=/boot/jp106.klt
  lba32
  prompt
  timeout=50
  message=/boot/message
  menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
  image=/boot/vmlinuz
  label=linux
  root=/dev/hda5
  append= devfs=mount
  read-only
  image=/boot/vmlinuz
  label=failsafe
  root=/dev/hda5
  append= devfs=mount failsafe
  read-only
  other=/dev/hda2
  label=windows
  table=/dev/hda
 
  Thanks,
 
  doug
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
 
  On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote:
   I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable*
 again. It
   doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the
   startup screen.
  
  
  Maybe, post your lilo.conf
  Also explain which drine/partition windows is on.
  We might see something, else its difficult to help
  
  Gerald
  
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 

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  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 
 --
 
 Programming, an artform that fights back.
 
 =
 Anuerin G. Diaz
 Design Engineer
 Millennium Software, Incorporated
 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower
 ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St.
 Ortigas Center, Pasig City
 
 Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72
 Fax# 638-3079
 =
 
 
 
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Design Engineer
Millennium Software, Incorporated
25/F Equitable-PCI Tower
ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St.
Ortigas Center, Pasig City

Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72
Fax# 638-3079
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