[newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Todd Slater

I'm trying to set up Squirrelmail so I can have access to my mail via web
interface It requires IMAP, which I believe I have running, but when I
try to log in I get an error about contacting the mail server I had my
ports probed and that revealed that POP3 and IMAP are closed

I checked my Tiny firewall config and I have told it that I am running a
mail server I also told it I want to allow telnet, but when trying to
telnet I get a connection refused

I'm confused as to why I can't use POP3, IMAP, and telnet Would this have
something to do with my ISP (RoadRunner)?

(I'm running 81)

Thanks,
Todd

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Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Steve Weltman

On Saturday 02 March 2002 09:53 am, you wrote:
 I'm trying to set up Squirrelmail so I can have access to my mail via web
 interface. It requires IMAP, which I believe I have running, but when I
 try to log in I get an error about contacting the mail server. I had my
 ports probed and that revealed that POP3 and IMAP are closed.

 I checked my Tiny firewall config and I have told it that I am running a
 mail server. I also told it I want to allow telnet, but when trying to
 telnet I get a connection refused.

Are you allowing Telnet to run as a service? You can tell if you look at this 
command:
ps -aef |grep tel*
or try telnet to your loopback address (127.0.0.1).
IF it's refused, you are not running the telnet server service.
If you intend to use telnet, may I suggest using SSH (you need to load the 
SSH services and this is on the CDs from 8.1 in RPM format).  It's more 
secure and is gaining alot of popularity as a connecting protocol over telnet 
which isn't secure at all.


 I'm confused as to why I can't use POP3, IMAP, and telnet. Would this have
 something to do with my ISP (RoadRunner)?

If port 25 is not open in the firewall you can't send mail to another machine 
(unless you configured your MTA to send with another port and that port is 
opened instead).  If port 110 is not opened, you cannot receive mail, unless 
you are using another port (defined from the upstream MTA's administrator).  
You usually can find out the needs of the mail from your ISP (Roadrunner).  
If you are configured correctly in your mail program(s), make sure you can 
open the ports on your firewall software (Tiny Firewall) for the above 
mentioned ports) on an INCOMING ACCEPT and OUTGOING ACCEPT basis.

The telnet sessions may be blocked from outgoing by your firewall (port 23) 
and depending on your destination, could be blocked there as well. 

I recommend that you read the firewall-howto and ethernet-howto so you can 
see in clearly defined terms where I am saying to open this port and that 
port.

Best of luck!!

Steve Weltman
Network Eng
Absolute Networks
Los Angeles, CA

 (I'm running 8.1)

 Thanks,
 Todd

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Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Todd Slater

On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:18:41 -0800
Steve Weltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Are you allowing Telnet to run as a service? You can tell if you look at
 this command:
 ps -aef |grep tel*
 or try telnet to your loopback address (127.0.0.1).
 IF it's refused, you are not running the telnet server service.
 If you intend to use telnet, may I suggest using SSH (you need to load
 the SSH services and this is on the CDs from 8.1 in RPM format).  It's
 more secure and is gaining alot of popularity as a connecting protocol
 over telnet which isn't secure at all.

I guess I'm not running telnet. The output from the above command:

root 9 0  0 12:39 ?00:00:00 [kupdated]
root   126   121  0 12:39 tty1100:00:01
/sbin/Monitor-NewStyle-Categoriz root  1447 1  0 12:39 ?   
00:00:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master todd  2345 1  0 12:43 ?   
00:00:00 kdeinit: kwrited todd 12410 11885  0 14:36 pts/300:00:00
grep tel*

I have openssh installed, but I can't figure out how to start it. I typed
sshd and I get errors:

Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting

Is there a way to start the service in Control Center, or with Webmin?
  
  I'm confused as to why I can't use POP3, IMAP, and telnet. Would this
  have something to do with my ISP (RoadRunner)?
 
 If port 25 is not open in the firewall you can't send mail to another
 machine (unless you configured your MTA to send with another port and
 that port is opened instead).  If port 110 is not opened, you cannot
 receive mail, unless you are using another port (defined from the
 upstream MTA's administrator).  You usually can find out the needs of
 the mail from your ISP (Roadrunner).  If you are configured correctly in
 your mail program(s), make sure you can open the ports on your firewall
 software (Tiny Firewall) for the above mentioned ports) on an INCOMING
 ACCEPT and OUTGOING ACCEPT basis.

I'm running Postfix and don't have any trouble sending or receiving mail
here. Could Postfix be interfering with something?

 
 The telnet sessions may be blocked from outgoing by your firewall (port
 23) and depending on your destination, could be blocked there as well. 
 
 I recommend that you read the firewall-howto and ethernet-howto so you
 can see in clearly defined terms where I am saying to open this port and
 that port.

Will do. Thanks,
Todd

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serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence
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Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Saturday 02 March 2002 02:54 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 I have openssh installed, but I can't figure out how to start it. I typed
 sshd and I get errors:

 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
 Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
 Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
 sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting

 Is there a way to start the service in Control Center, or with Webmin?


ssh is normally not operated in daemon mode.
it only runs when someone uses it (inet or xinet process)

use 
ssh -l usrname server.domain.tld

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Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Michael Viron

At 10:18 AM 03/02/2002 -0800, Steve Weltman wrote:
On Saturday 02 March 2002 09:53 am, you wrote:
 I'm trying to set up Squirrelmail so I can have access to my mail via web
 interface It requires IMAP, which I believe I have running, but when I
 try to log in I get an error about contacting the mail server I had my
 ports probed and that revealed that POP3 and IMAP are closed

 I checked my Tiny firewall config and I have told it that I am running a
 mail server I also told it I want to allow telnet, but when trying to
 telnet I get a connection refused

Are you allowing Telnet to run as a service? You can tell if you look at
this 
command:
ps -aef |grep tel*
or try telnet to your loopback address (127001)
IF it's refused, you are not running the telnet server service
Actually, if it is refused there are several possible problems:

1  It isn't installed  Do an rpm -qa | grep telnet and verify that
telnet-server is installed

2  It isn't being run  Check the /etc/xinetdd/telnet file to make sure
that it is not disabled  Also run /etc/rcd/initd/xinetd status to make
sure that xinetd is running

2  It is being blocked by the firewall on the box  Check your firewall
config

3  It is being blocked via hostsdeny   Take a look at /etc/hostsdeny
and /etc/hostsallow 

If you intend to use telnet, may I suggest using SSH (you need to load the 
SSH services and this is on the CDs from 81 in RPM format)  It's more 
secure and is gaining alot of popularity as a connecting protocol over
telnet 
which isn't secure at all

The telnet installed by default in Mandrake 81 isn't secure, although
there is a package somewhere for stelnet (I think that's the name) -- or a
telnet going through an ssh tunnel  Of course, I would tend to agree that
telnet isn't the most secure way of doing things


 I'm confused as to why I can't use POP3, IMAP, and telnet Would this have
 something to do with my ISP (RoadRunner)?

If port 25 is not open in the firewall you can't send mail to another
machine 
(unless you configured your MTA to send with another port and that port is 
opened instead)  If port 110 is not opened, you cannot receive mail, unless 
you are using another port (defined from the upstream MTA's administrator)  

Nope  110, which is pop3, is for remote access from a client to the
mailbox on the server  It has nothing to do with the delivery of e-mail
 Delivery of e-mail either when it is being sent or *received* is processed
through smtp (which is handled, depending on your setup, by postfix,
sendmail, qmail or something else)  You can and should have 110 closed to
the outside world (since it sends in plain text, just like telnet), leaving
it open to just your internal network

(See http://ebopediacom/TERM/P/POP2html as well as
http://ebopediacom/TERM/S/SMTPhtml )

You usually can find out the needs of the mail from your ISP (Roadrunner)  
If you are configured correctly in your mail program(s), make sure you can 
open the ports on your firewall software (Tiny Firewall) for the above 
mentioned ports) on an INCOMING ACCEPT and OUTGOING ACCEPT basis

The telnet sessions may be blocked from outgoing by your firewall (port 23) 
and depending on your destination, could be blocked there as well 

I recommend that you read the firewall-howto and ethernet-howto so you can 
see in clearly defined terms where I am saying to open this port and that 
port

Best of luck!!

Steve Weltman
Network Eng
Absolute Networks
Los Angeles, CA

 (I'm running 81)

 Thanks,
 Todd

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Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Michael Viron

Nope -- it's actually a standalone process, which can be turned on via
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start or via webmin.

Make sure that you have all openssh packages installed (including
openssh-server).

Michael

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At 08:08 PM 03/02/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Saturday 02 March 2002 02:54 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 I have openssh installed, but I can't figure out how to start it. I typed
 sshd and I get errors:

 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
 Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
 Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
 sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting

 Is there a way to start the service in Control Center, or with Webmin?


ssh is normally not operated in daemon mode.
it only runs when someone uses it (inet or xinet process)

use 
ssh -l usrname server.domain.tld

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Re: [newbie] how to open IMAP port?

2002-03-02 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Saturday 02 March 2002 08:56 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
 Nope -- it's actually a standalone process, which can be turned on via
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start or via webmin.

 Make sure that you have all openssh packages installed (including
 openssh-server).

Not to disagree, but it can be run as standalone or as xinetd process.
It's the installers choice. (so I guess we are both correct)

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