Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-08-01 Thread Brian Parish
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 19:35, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 09:25, et wrote:
  On Thursday 18 March 2004 01:36 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:09, Glenn wrote:
Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
  
   That's a scary thought. Does Miami have a hockey team yet?
  
   stephen kuhn - owner
  
  had one for a few years... the Florida Panthers
  
  I tink da one a trophy 2
 
 I WROTE THAT IN MARCH, matey...where the hec you been?
 
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Looks to me like he replied in March too, so the question is rather
where has IT been?




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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-07-28 Thread et
On Thursday 18 March 2004 01:36 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:09, Glenn wrote:
  Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

 That's a scary thought. Does Miami have a hockey team yet?

 stephen kuhn - owner

had one for a few years... the Florida Panthers

I tink da one a trophy 2


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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-07-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 09:25, et wrote:
 On Thursday 18 March 2004 01:36 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:09, Glenn wrote:
   Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
 
  That's a scary thought. Does Miami have a hockey team yet?
 
  stephen kuhn - owner
 
 had one for a few years... the Florida Panthers
 
 I tink da one a trophy 2

I WROTE THAT IN MARCH, matey...where the hec you been?

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Glenn
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 14:10, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 Hmm...in having experienced Cajuns first hand, it'd be rather strange to
 see some at a hockey game...


Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g


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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:09:50 -0700
Glenn disseminated the following:

  Hmm...in having experienced Cajuns first hand, it'd be rather strange to
  see some at a hockey game...
 
 
 Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that there
were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Glenn
On Thursday 18 March 2004 05:55, JoeHill wrote:

 Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
 there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D

:-)

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 18 March 2004 04:55 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:09:50 -0700

 Glenn disseminated the following:
   Hmm...in having experienced Cajuns first hand, it'd be rather strange
   to see some at a hockey game...
 
  Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

 Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
 there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D
On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 23:55, JoeHill wrote:

  Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
 
 Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that there
 were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D

Have you ever tried to intelligently explain ANYTHING to a Cajun? C'mon
- next you'll be telling me you have intelligent conversations with
hockey players.

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:09, Glenn wrote:

 Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g

That's a scary thought. Does Miami have a hockey team yet?

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:33:03 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

   Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
 
  Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
  there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D
 On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names

Seeing as they are probably all related, I would think so ;-)

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 18 March 2004 11:17 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:33:03 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
Are you kiddin'?  Lafayette, LA loves their Ice Gators g
  
   Though, it must have taken some explaining to the fans, initially, that
   there were to be no actual *alligators* on the ice :-D
 
  On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names

 Seeing as they are probably all related, I would think so ;-)
Seeing as how most of the players are Canadian you're probably right ;-)

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 17 Mar 2004 7:42 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 13:32, Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
  You can tell I could use some sleep. I thought your last name was
  Bathroom. ;)

 I'm in a worse conditionjust having my first coffee and trying to
 eat something. You don't want to know how I read your name when I'm
 in that state;-D

Along the same lines, try spellchecking Urwin.

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-18 Thread Lanman
Aron Smith wrote:

On the other hand the fans can prounonce the players names
Seeing as they are probably all related, I would think so ;-)
Seeing as how most of the players are Canadian you're probably right ;-)
Jealousy will get you nowhere guys! Besides, whaddya got against us 
Canucks, anyway?

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:04:28 -0500
Greg Meyer disseminated the following:

 Perhaps you will find this thread from google groups interesting.  Watch the 
 wrap.
 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8newwindow=1safe=offthreadm=9ku62l%24b8m%241%40news.duke.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3Dxfree%2Bpermedia%2Bsnow%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg

Sol'n for *huge* URL's:

http://tinyurl.com/

That 264 character URL becomes:

http://tinyurl.com/ywt7l

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Wednesday 17 March 2004 02:38, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 We ALL learn something new each day unless your name is Anne from
 UK... ...or Robin from Turkey (who is really a POM living there
 only)

I see he's back ;-)

The only thing I'd add to Greg's comments, is that all of us from time 
to time hit a very busy period, and for a few days we do little more 
than scan the lists.  If you get no reply for, say, 36 hours, try a 
slight re-wording of the subject line and send again.  It may get 
picked up the second time by someone who simply didn't get to see it 
before.

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Wednesday 17 March 2004 03:00, song wrote:
 ...or ask a Toronto Maple Leaf player for the correct answer...
 (or Edmonton Oiler)

 Ah AhAnd your from Australia? You like hockey
 BTW. I'm from Montreal - Home of the Canadians. (participate at the
 '93 Stanley Cup Riot)

Be warned - Stephen is 'especially nice' to Canuks

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Lanman
Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:


I'v had a lot of fun with names. On New Years Eve me and my cousin
pranked about 100 people. I'd call up people with last names like
Bigalls and ask for Mr BigBallsI made an Old Lady laugh. lol.
I'v made so many GOOD prank calls, I should record some.
Thanks for the info,...BART! g

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Lanman
Anne Wilson wrote:
Be warned - Stephen is 'especially nice' to Canuks

Anne
Anne; He is? Hm. Didn't know that ! g

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Lanman
song wrote:
...or ask a Toronto Maple Leaf player for the correct answer...
(or Edmonton Oiler)


Ah AhAnd your from Australia? You like hockey
BTW. I'm from Montreal - Home of the Canadians. (participate at the '93 
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 14:00, song wrote:
 ...or ask a Toronto Maple Leaf player for the correct answer...
 (or Edmonton Oiler)
 
 Ah AhAnd your from Australia? You like hockey
 BTW. I'm from Montreal - Home of the Canadians. (participate at the '93 
 Stanley Cup Riot)

I initially grew up in Detroit. Home of REAL hockey (Go RedWings!)

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 14:28, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:27, Greg Meyer wrote:
   I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses deep for
   two reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with somebody
 
  Almost sounds sexual. Can you believe that?
 
 Mr Kuhn was so nice to prove my point.  I rest my case.  :-p Welcome back 
 Stephen.

Ta mate.

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 22:14, Charlie wrote:

 Google for the information.

...or ask a Toront Maple Leaf player for the correct answer...
(or Edmonton Oiler)

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 06:17 pm, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 Hi there, everyone!

 I've asked a couple questions on the list but haven't had any replies. 
 I've also asked those questions some other places - like
 LinuxQuestions.org, with the same result.

 I know that this list and those forums have a lot of traffic, and I know
 that sometimes no one knows what to suggest, or doesn't have the time to
 help someone with a problem ..

 My question today is a little different:   What's the best way to get help
 with a problem?  On this list are there times of day that are best to post?
  Where's the best place to ask for help?  I know enough to give detailed
 information, and I work hard to solve problems on my own, and I search the
 net for solutions before posting.

I think the best way is to post one question per message, be very clear in 
what you are asking and make sure your subject clearly identifies the 
problem.

In looking at the original post that you reference, it is a problem with a 
piece of hardware that is quite obscure, and quite possibly, no one here had 
any experience with it, so I am not surprised there were no responses.  
Honestly, I would only point you to the XFree86.org site for the 
documentation on that card.

As for responding to questions, I personally only tend to respond to questions 
where I think I have something to add.  I think most people do this and it 
cuts down on the noise on the list.  If I and everyone else responded to 
messages with a simple I don't know, then the noise level would go way up.  

I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses deep for two 
reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with somebody that is 
providing useful help and involvement of additional would probably add 
confusion, or 2) the conversation has dribbled into a personal or 
lighthearted exchange.

 Thanks.  I look forward to also helping others solve linux problems once I
 know more myself.

The more the merrier.


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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:27, Greg Meyer wrote:
 I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses deep for two 
 reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with somebody

Almost sounds sexual. Can you believe that?

  Thanks.  I look forward to also helping others solve linux problems once I
  know more myself.

We ALL learn something new each day unless your name is Anne from UK...
...or Robin from Turkey (who is really a POM living there only)

 The more the merrier.

Are you shouting the next beers?

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:27, Greg Meyer wrote:
  I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses deep for
  two reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with somebody

 Almost sounds sexual. Can you believe that?

Mr Kuhn was so nice to prove my point.  I rest my case.  :-p Welcome back 
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Asa Rossoff
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 07:28 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:27, Greg Meyer wrote:
   I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses deep
   for two reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with somebody
 
  Almost sounds sexual. Can you believe that?

 Mr Kuhn was so nice to prove my point.  I rest my case.  :-p Welcome
 back Stephen.

Well, I must say, with my post evolved into a sex thread so quickly, I don't 
feel like my voice is lost in the wind this time!

I'm posting from within Linux this time, despite the snow on my screen.. my 
last post was from Microsoft Land.

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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 10:57 pm, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2004 07:28 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:27, Greg Meyer wrote:
I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses deep
for two reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with somebody
  
   Almost sounds sexual. Can you believe that?
 
  Mr Kuhn was so nice to prove my point.  I rest my case.  :-p Welcome
  back Stephen.

 Well, I must say, with my post evolved into a sex thread so quickly, I
 don't feel like my voice is lost in the wind this time!

 I'm posting from within Linux this time, despite the snow on my screen.. my
 last post was from Microsoft Land.

Perhaps you will find this thread from google groups interesting.  Watch the 
wrap.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8newwindow=1safe=offthreadm=9ku62l%24b8m%241%40news.duke.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3Dxfree%2Bpermedia%2Bsnow%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Asa Rossoff
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 04:11 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  :: My video display becomes corrupt in X as I work.. like
  :: static appearing on the screen, especially when scrolling
  :: or dragging windows.
  ::
  :: Video card: 3d Labs Permedia 2
  :: Mandrake 9.2

 Are you using the proper video card driver?
 Being that I'm far from familiar with your particular card, I have
 experienced the same crap using an NVidia but without the proper driver;
 once the driver was installed, all was well...

I think I am -- Plug  Play detects it with the correct name and i/o ports.  I 
also tried selecting the driver specifically instead of using the plug and 
play functionality - which is how's it's set now.  It's using the same driver 
in both cases, I think, with no change in behavior.

The driver for my card is part of the glint module.One curiosity with the 
driver was -- that initially when Mandrake detected my card and configured X 
-- it didn't create any mode lines for it, and X came up in 640x480 at 60hz.  
I have discovered that this version of X appears to have a bunch of modes 
pre-configured (or is that a feature of the video driver?), none of which, 
though, were really suited to my card and monitor combo, so I had to do some 
searching online about writing mode lines, which I did, and I optimized them 
with xvidtune.  Other than the snow on the screen (which appeared even in 
640x480 60hz), the modes all work well.

 Are you using the proper DRIVER in Winsux98?
I'm using a driver from the card manufacturer in Winsux .. it works fine, so 
that's not an issue.

  :: I've tried enabling the no_accel option in XF86Config-4.
  :: Just slower display, no help.

 Maybe you can post the config?

 Ciao/Cheers!

Thanks for lending your ear and experience!

Here's the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file:

# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section Files
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath unix/:-1
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
#DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse 
doesn't work
#DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
EndSection

Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx # 3D layer
Load Xv #Asa added this.. video acceleration
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard1
Driver Keyboard
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout en_US
Option XkbOptions 
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse1
Driver mouse
Option Protocol IMPS/2
Option Device /dev/usbmouse
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse2
Driver mouse
Option Protocol PS/2
Option Device /dev/psaux
Option Buttons 7
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
#Option Emulate3Buttons
#Option Emulate3Timeout 50
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier monitor1
VendorName CTX
ModelName CTX PR700 series
HorizSync 30.0-70.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
ModeLine 640x480  45.80640  644  740  792480  488  494  514 
-hsync -vsync
ModeLine 800x600  69.65800  816  880 1020600  604  610  628 
-hsync -vsync
ModeLine 1024x768 96.00   1024 1060 1156 1360768  769  772  794 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1152x864109.00   1152 1200 1328 1544864  865  868  888 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1280x960110.00   1280 1308 1492 1628960  961  964  990 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1280x1024   110.00   1280 1308 1492 1628   1024 1025 1028 1054 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1365x1024   110.00   1365 1368 1560 1696   1024 1027 1030 1052 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1400x1050   110.00   1400 1404 1596 1748   1050 1051 1054 1072 
+hsync +vsync
#ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563 
-hsync -vsync
#ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier device1
BoardName 3Dlabs Permedia2 (generic)
Driver glint
Screen 0
BusID PCI:0:4:0
Option DPMS
#Option no_accel
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier screen1
Device device1
Monitor monitor1
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth 8
Modes 1365x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
t3 t2 t1
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 15
Modes 1365x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
t3 t2 t1
EndSubsection


Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Asa Rossoff
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 08:04 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2004 10:57 pm, Asa Rossoff wrote:
  On Tuesday 16 March 2004 07:28 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:27, Greg Meyer wrote:
 I also steer clear of threads that are more than 4 or 5 reponses
 deep for two reasons, 1) the OP is involved in a one-on-one with
 somebody
   
Almost sounds sexual. Can you believe that?
  
   Mr Kuhn was so nice to prove my point.  I rest my case.  :-p
   Welcome back Stephen.
 
  Well, I must say, with my post evolved into a sex thread so quickly, I
  don't feel like my voice is lost in the wind this time!
 
  I'm posting from within Linux this time, despite the snow on my screen..
  my last post was from Microsoft Land.

 Perhaps you will find this thread from google groups interesting.  Watch
 the wrap.
 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8newwindow=1saf
e=offthreadm=9ku62l%24b8m%241%40news.duke.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den
%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3Dxfree%
2Bpermedia%2Bsnow%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg

The wrap?

That *IS* an interesting thread -- it sounds like the problem may be in the 
XF86 4.x driver... One poster in that thread suggested that XF86 4.1 solved a 
similar problem, in comparison to XF86 4.0, for them... isn't Mandrake 9.2 
using XF86 4.3.0?I have heard of people backtracking to XF86 3.3.6, which 
supported more older video cards, but I'm not sure if that's such a good 
idea.

I think this Permedia 2 has a rom date of 3 to 5 years ago.


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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Asa Rossoff
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 03:14 am, Charlie wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:17 pm, many eyes viewed Asa Rossoff's words:-

Yay! :)


Thanks Charlie for the general info.  I  will keep your pointers in mind.  
Already someone found some relevant info from Google Groups -- I hadn't 
thought of searching there, so I'm learning about additional resources too.

Take care.

Asa


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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread song
...or ask a Toronto Maple Leaf player for the correct answer...
(or Edmonton Oiler)

Ah AhAnd your from Australia? You like hockey
BTW. I'm from Montreal - Home of the Canadians. (participate at the '93 
Stanley Cup Riot)


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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:23 pm, Asa Rossoff wrote:

 The wrap?

refers to the length of the url I posted, which some mail clients will 
word-wrap, but needs to be pasted into the browser window as one line.

 That *IS* an interesting thread -- it sounds like the problem may be in the
 XF86 4.x driver... One poster in that thread suggested that XF86 4.1 solved
 a similar problem, in comparison to XF86 4.0, for them... isn't Mandrake
 9.2 using XF86 4.3.0?I have heard of people backtracking to XF86 3.3.6,
 which supported more older video cards, but I'm not sure if that's such a
 good idea.

 I think this Permedia 2 has a rom date of 3 to 5 years ago.
3.3.6 is available in 9.2 if you feel like trying it.  It was moved to contrib 
for 10.0 but is available in main up until 9.2.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Alaa The Great
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:10:51 -0800
Asa Rossoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

just to isolate the problem and make sure if its the driver or not, I
suggest you try the vesa driver (should work on practically all cards).
and boot in non framebuffer mode for the moment (running two drivers for
the same hardware may be causing problems).

so change this line
 Driver glint

tp

 Driver vesa

then tell us if the problem is still there.

cheers,
Alaa
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 00:17, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 Hi there, everyone!

 I've asked a couple questions on the list but haven't had any replies. 
 I've also asked those questions some other places - like
 LinuxQuestions.org, with the same result.

 I know that this list and those forums have a lot of traffic, and I know
 that sometimes no one knows what to suggest, or doesn't have the time to
 help someone with a problem ..

 My question today is a little different:   What's the best way to get help
 with a problem?  On this list are there times of day that are best to post?
  Where's the best place to ask for help?  I know enough to give detailed
 information, and I work hard to solve problems on my own, and I search the
 net for solutions before posting.

 Thanks.  I look forward to also helping others solve linux problems once I
 know more myself.

 Asa Rossoff
 (In sweltering northern California, USA)

Well...for one:

Try mailing in plain text! That way you'll not be dropped in the with the 
daily spam.

Good luck,
HarM
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:28:35 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 00:17, Asa Rossoff wrote:
  Hi there, everyone!
 
  I've asked a couple questions on the list but haven't had any replies. 
  I've also asked those questions some other places - like
  LinuxQuestions.org, with the same result.
 
  I know that this list and those forums have a lot of traffic, and I know
  that sometimes no one knows what to suggest, or doesn't have the time to
  help someone with a problem ..
 
  My question today is a little different:   What's the best way to get help
  with a problem?  On this list are there times of day that are best to post?
   Where's the best place to ask for help?  I know enough to give detailed
  information, and I work hard to solve problems on my own, and I search the
  net for solutions before posting.
 
  Thanks.  I look forward to also helping others solve linux problems once I
  know more myself.
 
  Asa Rossoff
  (In sweltering northern California, USA)
 
 Well...for one:
 
 Try mailing in plain text! That way you'll not be dropped in the with the 
 daily spam.
 
 Good luck,
 HarM
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 13:32, Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
 You can tell I could use some sleep. I thought your last name was Bathroom.
 ;)

I'm in a worse conditionjust having my first coffee and trying to eat 
something. You don't want to know how I read your name when I'm in that 
state;-D

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] howdy! solving problems this list,.....

2004-03-16 Thread Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:42:12 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 13:32, Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
  You can tell I could use some sleep. I thought your last name was Bathroom.
  ;)
 
 I'm in a worse conditionjust having my first coffee and trying to eat 
 something. You don't want to know how I read your name when I'm in that 
 state;-D
 
 Good luck,
 HarM
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I'v had a lot of fun with names. On New Years Eve me and my cousin pranked about 100 
people. I'd call up people with last names like Bigalls and ask for Mr BigBallsI 
made an Old Lady laugh. lol. I'v made so many GOOD prank calls, I should record some.

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