[newbie] i WILL not go back to win2k! i promise!
Hiya Andrew, thanks for the quick response. I think i'll try Wine first as they seem to have quite a comprehensive installation procedure. I hope i'm right in assuming it's as easy as they describe on their website! I think i may leave the Win4Lin for now as it suggests it may take me around 6 months to actually get it to work. The Star Office I have already tried on the Windows platform with which i was not too impressed but i will certainly give it another chance and spend more than 20 seconds testing. Again, thanks for your help. Nick (i promise not to give up Linux and go back to win2k) p.s. are there any linux alternatives for 'bearshare' out there. it's a p2p file sharing protocol mostly for mp3's and mpg's -Original Message- From: Andrew Lazarewicz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2001 13:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] eh? ** Reply to message from Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:47:59 - Welcome to the club! I can help with the Windows problem. Wine is an excellent tool that is in advanced development -- as I see it, the folks working it are doing an excellent job, but it still needs work (see their web site http://www.winehq.com). Another alternative that uses a different approach is Win4Lin (see http://www.netraverse.com) -- if you have a formal copy of Win 95/98, their program will install it into your Linux filesystem -- essentially, you are running the original Windows inside a Linux window (not an emulator). Direct X and DOS graphics mode aren't supported, so games are out, but business stuff should work -- MS Office is known to work. I'm still installing it into my system, and have had some troubles with getting the right kernel in place (explained below) and Windows OEM are a pain (as is most of Windows software by definition), as you need a bootable disk as well (not a big deal, you just have to know about it). Reviews are very good, I haven't yet fully installed it, but should be able to finish that today. About the kernel, Linux's guts is the Kernel, and Win4Lin has to patch it, so the patch and your installed Kernel have to match. Many are done quickly, and the CD has patches, but mine was a pain to get right. Fortunately, their e-mail help is very good, and you can always write here too. StarOffice, which is available free from sun (http://www.sun.com), and included in many, if not all, packaged Linux systems is extremely compatible with MS Office. I haven't yet found anything that I needed to do in MS Office that I can't do in Star Office -- take a look at this option as well. Linux is far different and better than DOS/Windows, it is very stable, free, grass-roots support, but it needs considerably more technical knowledge than Windows. However, you get out of it what you put into it. It is aggravating at times, but the people who work with it and help in places like this are terrific! You won't be orphaned -- keep going! - Andy Lazarewicz * The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) are confidential and may be legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material permanently from any computer. *
Re: [newbie] i WILL not go back to win2k! i promise!
** Reply to message from Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:00:33 - Oops, I didn't mean that Win4Lin will take 6 months to install, it doesn't -- much of the delay came from my learning curve I noticed that you have Mandrake-Linux 7.2, which is what I have -- so if you decide to try that route, I can short cut your effort. If you have the pieces in hand (which I didn't), it only takes 20 minutes or so. I should have mine running today. In turn, if you get wine to work (I've been having some trouble), let me know how it goes. So, we don't overload this already overloaded listserv, why don't we connect direct on this (if you want), and we'll post things here that are of more general use? Contacts below. - Andy -- Andrew R. Lazarewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://world.std.com/~alaz Wireless e-mail, voicemail, page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 781-677-3226
RE: [newbie] i WILL not go back to win2k! i promise!
Limewire is an option as far as Gnutella clients as well as Furi, gnut, hagelslag. They can be found here http://www.gnutelliums.com/linux_unix/ . I'm not sure which is the best or even which ones are free software. Good lcuk. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] i WILL not go back to win2k! i promise! Hiya Andrew, thanks for the quick response. I think i'll try Wine first as they seem to have quite a comprehensive installation procedure. I hope i'm right in assuming it's as easy as they describe on their website! I think i may leave the Win4Lin for now as it suggests it may take me around 6 months to actually get it to work. The Star Office I have already tried on the Windows platform with which i was not too impressed but i will certainly give it another chance and spend more than 20 seconds testing. Again, thanks for your help. Nick (i promise not to give up Linux and go back to win2k) p.s. are there any linux alternatives for 'bearshare' out there. it's a p2p file sharing protocol mostly for mp3's and mpg's -Original Message- From: Andrew Lazarewicz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2001 13:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] eh? ** Reply to message from Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:47:59 - Welcome to the club! I can help with the Windows problem. Wine is an excellent tool that is in advanced development -- as I see it, the folks working it are doing an excellent job, but it still needs work (see their web site http://www.winehq.com). Another alternative that uses a different approach is Win4Lin (see http://www.netraverse.com) -- if you have a formal copy of Win 95/98, their program will install it into your Linux filesystem -- essentially, you are running the original Windows inside a Linux window (not an emulator). Direct X and DOS graphics mode aren't supported, so games are out, but business stuff should work -- MS Office is known to work. I'm still installing it into my system, and have had some troubles with getting the right kernel in place (explained below) and Windows OEM are a pain (as is most of Windows software by definition), as you need a bootable disk as well (not a big deal, you just have to know about it). Reviews are very good, I haven't yet fully installed it, but should be able to finish that today. About the kernel, Linux's guts is the Kernel, and Win4Lin has to patch it, so the patch and your installed Kernel have to match. Many are done quickly, and the CD has patches, but mine was a pain to get right. Fortunately, their e-mail help is very good, and you can always write here too. StarOffice, which is available free from sun (http://www.sun.com), and included in many, if not all, packaged Linux systems is extremely compatible with MS Office. I haven't yet found anything that I needed to do in MS Office that I can't do in Star Office -- take a look at this option as well. Linux is far different and better than DOS/Windows, it is very stable, free, grass-roots support, but it needs considerably more technical knowledge than Windows. However, you get out of it what you put into it. It is aggravating at times, but the people who work with it and help in places like this are terrific! You won't be orphaned -- keep going! - Andy Lazarewicz * The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) are confidential and may be legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material permanently from any computer. * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] i WILL not go back to win2k! i promise!
Bearshare, I understand, is a Gnutella client for Windos. Limewire (http://www.limewire.com) does a better job than Bearshare, IMHO. Its only shortcoming is that it is written in Java, so it is not exactly the most nimble app out there. Besides this, it is very good :-) On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:00, Nick wrote: Hiya Andrew, thanks for the quick response. I think i'll try Wine first as they seem to have quite a comprehensive installation procedure. I hope i'm right in assuming it's as easy as they describe on their website! I think i may leave the Win4Lin for now as it suggests it may take me around 6 months to actually get it to work. The Star Office I have already tried on the Windows platform with which i was not too impressed but i will certainly give it another chance and spend more than 20 seconds testing. Again, thanks for your help. Nick (i promise not to give up Linux and go back to win2k) p.s. are there any linux alternatives for 'bearshare' out there. it's a p2p file sharing protocol mostly for mp3's and mpg's -Original Message- From: Andrew Lazarewicz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2001 13:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] eh? ** Reply to message from Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:47:59 - Welcome to the club! I can help with the Windows problem. Wine is an excellent tool that is in advanced development -- as I see it, the folks working it are doing an excellent job, but it still needs work (see their web site http://www.winehq.com). Another alternative that uses a different approach is Win4Lin (see http://www.netraverse.com) -- if you have a formal copy of Win 95/98, their program will install it into your Linux filesystem -- essentially, you are running the original Windows inside a Linux window (not an emulator). Direct X and DOS graphics mode aren't supported, so games are out, but business stuff should work -- MS Office is known to work. I'm still installing it into my system, and have had some troubles with getting the right kernel in place (explained below) and Windows OEM are a pain (as is most of Windows software by definition), as you need a bootable disk as well (not a big deal, you just have to know about it). Reviews are very good, I haven't yet fully installed it, but should be able to finish that today. About the kernel, Linux's guts is the Kernel, and Win4Lin has to patch it, so the patch and your installed Kernel have to match. Many are done quickly, and the CD has patches, but mine was a pain to get right. Fortunately, their e-mail help is very good, and you can always write here too. StarOffice, which is available free from sun (http://www.sun.com), and included in many, if not all, packaged Linux systems is extremely compatible with MS Office. I haven't yet found anything that I needed to do in MS Office that I can't do in Star Office -- take a look at this option as well. Linux is far different and better than DOS/Windows, it is very stable, free, grass-roots support, but it needs considerably more technical knowledge than Windows. However, you get out of it what you put into it. It is aggravating at times, but the people who work with it and help in places like this are terrific! You won't be orphaned -- keep going! - Andy Lazarewicz * The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) are confidential and may be legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material permanently from any computer. * -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
