Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
darkknight wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, jsm wrote: Well , I've been following this thread . I also have the same problem with a 4 gig HD . But I'm still confused . If I create a /boot partition , will the Mandrake install program install the kernel and LILO it it automatically ? And this partition should be at the beginning of the drive ? Any detailed instructions that anyone can provide will be GREATLY appreciated ! Thanks for the time ! jsm If the /boot partition is created in the install program, then install will put all the files necessary in that partition. It shows up as a directory off of the root directory (which it is) but is also a seperate partition. The best way to do it is when in install and asked to set up partitions, then set up the /boot partition first. I just used 20 mb it is adequate enough. then I set up the swap partition, I just went with 127 mb probably overkill since I have 128 mb memory but better safe than sorry :) Then I set up my remaining space as a / partition (root) , I did not create any other partitions though many do. I hope this is of some use to you, John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the help ! I did try that , but LILO still would not install . So as a last resort I went to my motherboard manufacture and found a flash for my bios ( what else could it be , right ? ) . After the upgrade I'm glad to report that everything works fine !!! I now can boot to Linux or Windows with LILO . I guess there was a defect in my BIOS program . Thanks !!! jsm
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
You don't need that driver for Linux. It *SHOULD* work just fine w/o worrying about it, especially if you make a partition for /boot, etc. John - Original Message - From: bfernand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig After reading the docs, I decided to not use either LILO or Boot Magic. The reason being that my recently installed 13GB Maxtor drive uses a little driver that lives in the Master Boor Record (where LILO or BM would reside). Instead, I'm using LOADLIN which came in the Linux CD. I copied the kernel to the C: drive (VMLINUZ) and use the following in a batch file to load Linux: c:\loadlin\loadlin c:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=3 Happy Hunting! Ben
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, jsm wrote: Well , I've been following this thread . I also have the same problem with a 4 gig HD . But I'm still confused . If I create a /boot partition , will the Mandrake install program install the kernel and LILO it it automatically ? And this partition should be at the beginning of the drive ? Any detailed instructions that anyone can provide will be GREATLY appreciated ! Thanks for the time ! jsm If the /boot partition is created in the install program, then install will put all the files necessary in that partition. It shows up as a directory off of the root directory (which it is) but is also a seperate partition. The best way to do it is when in install and asked to set up partitions, then set up the /boot partition first. I just used 20 mb it is adequate enough. then I set up the swap partition, I just went with 127 mb probably overkill since I have 128 mb memory but better safe than sorry :) Then I set up my remaining space as a / partition (root) , I did not create any other partitions though many do. I hope this is of some use to you, John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Kernels have to be in the first 8.4 GB of a harddisk. (This is not a Linux bug, but a BIOS problem. Stuff like EZDrive won't help you either). [...] so why doesn't someone come up with a BIOS fix for this? (although you SHOULD be able to squeeze the kernel in the first 8.4G SOMEWHERE :-)) Or is there some technical reason for this limitation? It's not that easy to write a BIOS fix because there is some configuration issues with the controller electronics. It's somehow all tied up in backwards compatibility with old IBM PC's, but I can't remember the specifics. Other hardware architectures don't have the problem. MB -- Michael R. Batchelor Industrial Informatics Instrumentation, Inc.
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Hello again "newbie Group" Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. When fdisk starts I get the following message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) I was thinking of doing two partitions, Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) hdc2= swap at around 60 then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using VMware. well what do you think? Rhich 8150164
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Hey Axalon ! Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) So your saying: / boot = 20 meg / = a lot of harddrive then swap? swap Does LM know what to put in /boot if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? is this my mount point? does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally up and running I have to keep my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") Your friend Rhichard, Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hello again "newbie Group" Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. When fdisk starts I get the following message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) I was thinking of doing two partitions, Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) hdc2= swap at around 60 then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using VMware. well what do you think? Rhich 8150164 Lop the first 20 megs off and call it /boot and you'll be just fine.
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hey Axalon ! Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) So your saying: / boot = 20 meg / = a lot of harddrive then swap? swap Does LM know what to put in /boot if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? is this my mount point? does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally up and running I have to keep my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") Your friend Rhichard, The only thing thats critcal, is that the kernel lies fully within the first 1024 cylinders. You should beable to handle all this from within diskdruid, blank all the partitions create a linux partition of around 20mb give it mountpoint /boot, anything you do with the rest is just a matter of preference. As for what goes into the /boot partition/directory it won't be any/much different that whats in the /boot of your exsisting system, a system.map kernel image and other odds and ends. You can install lilo onto either mbr, I'd recommend hda for simplicity. Specifing the mount point for windows partitions is easiestly handled during install while still in diskdruid, then after install you can add any uid= or other such customizations to the fstab line. Msdos is the standard 8.3 nameing scheme, Vfat covers longfilenames. Something along the lines of /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,noexec,user,uid=500 0 0 Let me know if i missed any ?'s Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hello again "newbie Group" Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. When fdisk starts I get the following message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) I was thinking of doing two partitions, Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) hdc2= swap at around 60 then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using VMware. well what do you think? Rhich 8150164 Lop the first 20 megs off and call it /boot and you'll be just fine.
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: > Hey Axalon ! > Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) > So your saying: > / boot = 20 meg > / = a lot of harddrive then swap? > swap > Does LM know what to put in /boot > if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? > is this my mount point? > does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). > if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? > Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM > We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? > I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now > once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally > up and running I have to keep > my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") > > Your friend > Rhichard, The only thing thats critcal, is that the kernel lies fully within the first 1024 cylinders. You should beable to handle all this from within diskdruid, OK so hdc would be: /boot (20-50mg) / (being root or main partition)= bigmg then a swap partition (I'm figuring about 100mg) do I need to tell the install what to put into /boot? blank all the partitions create a linux partition of around 20mb give it mountpoint /boot, anything you do with the rest is just a matter of preference. As for what goes into the /boot partition/directory it won't be any/much different that whats in the /boot of your exsisting system, a system.map kernel image and other odds and ends. You can install lilo onto either mbr, I'd recommend hda for simplicity. Specifing the mount point for windows partitions is easiestly handled during install while still in diskdruid, then after install you can add any uid= or other such customizations to the fstab line. Msdos is the standard 8.3 nameing scheme, Vfat covers longfilenames. Something along the lines of /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,noexec,user,uid=500 0 0 Is this what I would type in diskdruid? or would this be in fstab? I want to be able to have both Win LM be able to swap files e.g., downloads and such... Also while I have your attention is Samba the way to go with a Windows server/network? What is Wine all about? Let me know if i missed any ?'s > Axalon wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again "newbie Group" > > > Well I've got a new one, I just got a 13.0 gig WD hard drive for free, I would like to use > > > it all for Linux. I found that VMware uses it's own partition inside the Linux partition, > > > better(or it's easier) than to use a second hard drive(Raw partition) > > > The only thing is the 1024 thingcan I partition the 13.0 in fdisk without EZdrive? the > > > Bios sees it as 8.4 gig but when I start fdisk I see the 25228 cylinders. > > > When fdisk starts I get the following message: > > > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 25228 > > > there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, > > > and could in certain setups cause problems with: > > > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) > > > 2) booting and partitioning software from other OS's > > > (e.g., Dos Fdisk, OS/2 FDisk) > > > I was thinking of doing two partitions, > > > Hdc1= / at around 1208000 (give or take) > > > hdc2= swap at around 60 > > > then once all is ok I would install Windows98 and NT inside the 12.0gig partition using > > > VMware. > > > well what do you think? > > > > > > > > > Rhich > > > 8150164 > > > > > > > Lop the first 20 megs off and call it /boot and you'll be just fine. >
Re: [newbie] install problems 13.0gig
Heya, mind turning off the html your doubleing traffic.. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Axalon wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Rhichard Barth Family wrote: Hey Axalon ! Boy I'm always glad to get responses from you...(not that I'm mind the rest) So your saying: / boot = 20 meg / = a lot of harddrive then swap? swap Does LM know what to put in /boot if not, during the install what should I put in /boot? is this my mount point? does LILO go into /boot? (stupid question but i'm going to make sure). if I had a hda1 (windows 98 drive) original C:\ drive how should I mount that? Two drives one is 3.1gig with windows, the other is 13gig all for LM We went through this once before... in it VFat or DOS ? I'm using LAN Bridge software with my internal LAN and I will still need to use Win98 for now once LM is up and running I'll be switching that computer over to server, but until I'm totally up and running I have to keep my Windows box as the server (or my wife and daughter will kill me if they can't "surf") Your friend Rhichard, The only thing thats critcal, is that the kernel lies fully within the first 1024 cylinders. You should beable to handle all this from within diskdruid, OK so hdc would be: /boot (20-50mg) /(being root or main partition)= bigmg then a swap partition (I'm figuring about 100mg) do I need to tell the install what to put into /boot? As long as it's specified during install it will put all the files there by it's self. blank all the partitions create a linux partition of around 20mb give it mountpoint /boot, anything you do with the rest is just a matter of preference. As for what goes into the /boot partition/directory it won't be any/much different that whats in the /boot of your exsisting system, a system.map kernel image and other odds and ends. You can install lilo onto either mbr, I'd recommend hda for simplicity. Specifing the mount point for windows partitions is easiestly handled during install while still in diskdruid, then after install you can add any uid= or other such customizations to the fstab line. Msdos is the standard 8.3 nameing scheme, Vfat covers longfilenames. Something along the lines of /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,noexec,user,uid=500 0 0 Is this what I would type in diskdruid? or would this be in fstab? thats the fstab line, in diskdruid just tell it /mnt/windows or something you really only get one option with a windows drive and thats the mount point. The uid=500 is an optional parameter to allow user 500 read/write access (theres also available the, gid= umask= options to setup a "vfat" group to deal with allowing mass access) I want to be able to have both Win LM be able to swap files e.g., downloads and such... Yes, just specify the mount point and your all set for moveing files around as root. Also while I have your attention is Samba the way to go with a Windows server/network? Well it's by far the simplest and cheapest sense you already have all the required software, you can get win32 nfs clients and theres always ftp. The howtos are for the most part simple enough for most to follow, the registry patches are in /usr/doc/samba-(version) if your running anything but the original windows 95. What is Wine all about? Well like the documents say, Wine is an alternate implementation of the windows API.
