Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select ^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select The difference between using ';' or '' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s). My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or not. I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, logout from KDE and/or X to update. It simply isn't so. This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall' alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb updatedb ldconfig -v update-menus -v -n' Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use Ctrl+Alt+BkSp while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE. I do not doubt anything you have said here, and in fact I strive for the day when this is works fully for a dumb arse like me. It is just that when I update kde from rpm packages FULLY, I have yet to succeed with a successful installation without first logging out of X session. AGAIN. I do not doubt you, it may well be that within text console, I have to be more observant and careful, therefore suceed this way. Time will tell I hope because I am through with playing with Linux, I now need to keep this box stable and in production for myself. Oh... I forgot, what is Windows again?? -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select ^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select The difference between using ';' or '' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s). My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or not. I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, logout from KDE and/or X to update. It simply isn't so. This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall' alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb updatedb ldconfig -v update-menus -v -n' Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use Ctrl+Alt+BkSp while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] kde/urpmi mess
After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett = So anyway, check this out: http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/farscape/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere): [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months. When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant. system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3 I tried: libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac and: k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a proficient beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated? Thanks for any tips, brett Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or not. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
