Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:19:32 -0600 The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: tmb = Thomas M Backlund's Multimedial Kernel available at: http://www.netikka.net/tmb/Cooker/ If you're going to be working with sound recording and editing on your Linux box, this kernel is designed with low latency and other features to improve your performance. If I install this with urpmi, does it automagically configure LILO as well? No, and in any case it's better to compile the src rpm against your equipement, and then install the rpm it creates, together with a fresh new stanza to boot the new kernel. You still retain your old one, and the boot script . John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
Just for a giggle I rolled this kernel last night, kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm this is what I had in the morning, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# ls kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm kernel-tmb-enterprise-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm I've never had 3 kernels before, do you install all 3, and if so will it produce one set of kernel and initrc files or 3 of each. I guess you only install , kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm but ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
You could try installing both and give them each a whirl before removing the one you decide against. Lilo should be auto configed to give you the both choices (check the config using Mandrake control center to determine which entry points to which kernel). I found that the standard (mdk) kernel wouldn't accept my 1Gb RAM config no matter what I passed to it because the 4Gb memory option wasn't enabled. The enterprise kernel did. So chose the latter. HTH Paul On Wednesday 29 October 2003 04:30 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Just for a giggle I rolled this kernel last night, kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm this is what I had in the morning, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# ls kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm kernel-tmb-enterprise-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm I've never had 3 kernels before, do you install all 3, and if so will it produce one set of kernel and initrc files or 3 of each. I guess you only install , kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm but ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
Paul Kaplan wrote: You could try installing both and give them each a whirl before removing the one you decide against. Lilo should be auto configed to give you the both choices (check the config using Mandrake control center to determine which entry points to which kernel). I found that the standard (mdk) kernel wouldn't accept my 1Gb RAM config no matter what I passed to it because the 4Gb memory option wasn't enabled. The enterprise kernel did. So chose the latter. HTH Paul OK will do.I cannot see any problem with that , so, kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm is held in case you need it, then ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
'scuse me, what's this 'tmb' kernel? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Kaplan wrote: You could try installing both and give them each a whirl before removing the one you decide against. Lilo should be auto configed to give you the both choices (check the config using Mandrake control center to determine which entry points to which kernel). I found that the standard (mdk) kernel wouldn't accept my 1Gb RAM config no matter what I passed to it because the 4Gb memory option wasn't enabled. The enterprise kernel did. So chose the latter. HTH Paul OK will do.I cannot see any problem with that , so, kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm is held in case you need it, then ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 03:30 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Just for a giggle I rolled this kernel last night, kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm this is what I had in the morning, I'm surprised you didn't have more. Mandrake kernel 'src.rpm' would'a built about a half dozen or more different kernels. Next time, use the 'kernel-source' rpm. Altho, in this case, I believe Thomas only furnishes the precompiled binary rpm, and the 'src.rpm'. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i586]# ls kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm kernel-tmb-enterprise-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm I've never had 3 kernels before, do you install all 3, and if so will it produce one set of kernel and initrc files or 3 of each. I guess you only install , kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm but ? Correct, unless you want to use more than 860Mb of ram, you don't need (or want) the 'enterprise' version. Use 'rpm -ivh' to install kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm. Use 'rpm -Uvh' if you also want to have source for the kernel installed (kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm). In light of the recent LG CDrom snafu, you should do a 'rpm -qpil kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm |less' and read the description. I'm sure it includes a warning that this kernel version uses experimental kernel.org patches. AFAIK, nobody's reported any problems tho. 'Course that was the same deal with LG ;) I think there's also a newer version of Thomas' kernel available built around kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 10:05 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK Tom, But I'm guessing this is a kernel for M9.2 which I do not really have yet. because when I try to install, the dependency problem raises it head, bootloader-utils = 1.6 is needed by kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk so I try installing bootloader-utils-1.6-3mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: initscripts = 7.06-21mdk is needed by bootloader-utils-1.6-3mdk perl(MDK::Common) is needed by bootloader-utils-1.6-3mdk perl(lib) is needed by bootloader-utils-1.6-3mdk perl(strict) is needed by bootloader-utils-1.6-3mdk Here we go, no dice I think ? That would be a safe bet. I checked those packages on my system. My intscripts is newer, bootloader is the same version. I'm running 9.2+cooker updates. Why, what need do you have to change kernels John? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
Tom Brinkman wrote: That would be a safe bet. I checked those packages on my system. My intscripts is newer, bootloader is the same version. I'm running 9.2+cooker updates. Why, what need do you have to change kernels John? To build up the media side of my main OS, get better performance. One example, when mencoder is running it takes everything the processor has, but , and I say this with a certain intrepidtude, the OS thinks Athlon1200, but I have Athlon1800.Somehow I'm suspicious. Maybe nothing in it.But I'm guessing the build isn't optimised to my processor, and in any case I felt curious.I just thought I'd give it a whirl to see what it does. No harm in that. Still , M9.2 will be out soon. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
Tom Brinkman wrote So if 'cat /proc/cpu/info' reports a 1200 Mhz cpu, instead of 1533 Mhz, you're system is mis-configured in bios, or you don't have an 1800+. I bow to your fart superior knowledge of hardware. Mine is of course not a laptop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 6 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1147.775 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips: 2287.20 While the main equipement is, MSI K7t266 Pro2 , MS-6380 v2,x ATX Mainboard, based on VIA ApolloKT266A, chipsets,(VT8366A VT8233), Athlon XPPR1800+(palomino) processor, 512MB DDR PC2100 PC266 Visual Inspection of memory chip reveals, Korea 0152 M368L6423CTL-CBO fitted with 2x8 SAMSUNG 151 K4H560838C-TCBO chips so by my reconning something is out somewhere. Would you not agree ? If you're intent on recompiling the kernel for K7, I can tell you exactly how to do it but you won't see any measurable performance increase in doin so. Believe, I've tried too many times to prove my self wrong on that. Overclocking the XP a little, and usin very low'n fast ram timings will do far more than compiling for K7. Either can cause a loss of system stability tho. On that, I have proved myself too often right ; OK, well lets leave the compile asside a moment. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 04:33 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I bow to your fart superior knowledge of hardware. A typo John ? ;))) Mine is of course not a laptop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 6 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1147.775 so by my reconning something is out somewhere. Would you not agree ? Yep. Up until the Athlon 1.4, AMD cpu's ran at their stated speed. With the FPU advantage over Intel P-4's, AMD tried to capitalize on public perception by rating them compared to P-4's Now a XP 1800+ definitely has a default speed of 1533 Mhz. The cpu doesn't tell the motherboard how fast it wants to run, it's the other way around. You've got a DDR 266 system, the FSB should be 133 Mhz (Double Data Rate = 266). That means the multiplier the motherboard sets for the cpu should be 11.5 (11.5 * 133 = 1533). Yours seems to be runnin at 11.5 * 100. Without lookin at your board online, there's either a jumper on the board to switch between 100 and 133 FSB, or a bios setting to do it. Maybe both, jumper to set 133, then bios tweaks to up or lower that a bit. You've been seriously UNderclocking that XP John ;) Almost a heart attack for this ol' overclocker. Don't worry tho, your PCI bus which the AGP and IDE also uses was right on. At 100FSB, your motherboard's clock chip used a 1/3 divider (100/3), at 133FSB it will use 1/4 (133/4) ... both properly equal 33.3Mhz for PCI. When you get the FSB switched over to 133, these lines will probly be model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ cpu MHz : 1537.360 Don't be surprised if the Mhz reported is not exactly 1533 or if it varies a touch from time to time. Actually the FSB is constantly wavering a little all the time. Tho you're probly set to default Vcore (cpu voltage, 1.65v) expect the cpu to run just a touch hotter when you get it up to default speed. BTW, you've also been runnin your DDR266 ram at DDR200. Expect most everything to jump up in speed when you get it set properly. I think you're in for a treat ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
