Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-05 Thread Mr. Geek
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 04 April 2005 05:22 pm, Mr. Geek wrote:
Isaak, Get your hands on the latest version of webmin at
www.webmin.com

I thought that Mandrake changed the location of so much stuff that the default 
webmin was basically unusable for server administration.  Am I wrong about 
that?
Yup, You're mistaken. If you're already running webmin, simply 
un-install it from the system it's on, making sure you delete the 
/etc/webmin and usr/libexec/webmin folders afterwards, and proceed with 
a normal install of the latest version.

For whatever reason, Jamie Cameron has changed the default location of 
most of the webmin components, placing almost everything in the 
/usr/libexec/webmin folder and has done away with the use of the 
/etc/webmin folder.

Other than that, it runs like a champ.
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[newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Isak Lyberth
I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of 
administrating the server. What means do i have?
(the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some 
new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not 
intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i 
find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?

Regards Isak

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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
 This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
 administrating the server. What means do i have?
 (the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
 new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
 intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
 find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?

 Regards Isak

Use framebuffer i.e. fbdev as a driver...that should work for almost all 
cardswhat is the card, anyway?

If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with 
that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start your 
gui app remotely.

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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Mr. Geek
Isak Lyberth wrote:
I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of 
administrating the server. What means do i have?
(the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some 
new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not 
intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i 
find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?

Regards Isak
Isaak, Get your hands on the latest version of webmin at
www.webmin.com
Download the rpm package from the link in the upper right hand corner of 
the home page and install it in the usual fashion. You're also going to 
need the following packages;

1) perl-Authen-PAM
2) perl-Net_SSLeay
3) perl-CGI
They will need to be downloaded and installed prior to installing 
webmin, but they are available from your CD's and from your urpmi sources.

Once they're installed, install the webmin package you downloaded from 
Webmin's site (webmin-1.190-1) using the following command while you're 
in the folder where you downloaded it. You'll need to open a root 
console to do all of this.

rpm -ivh webmin
Once it's installed, open a web-browser on your client system and log 
into the server using the following link;

https://IP-Address-of-your-server:1
HTH's
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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Isak Lyberth




I have not found out what card it is, maybe someone else here knows
which it is?
it is anoying as the installation was the graphical one, and it looked
fine.
regards


H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

  On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
  
  
I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
administrating the server. What means do i have?
(the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?

Regards Isak

  
  
Use framebuffer i.e. "fbdev" as a driver...that should work for "almost" all 
cardswhat is the card, anyway?

If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with 
that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start your 
gui app remotely.

  
  


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RE: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Stephen Furlong








Is it an actual server or just a desktop
machine? Either way, some indication as to what motherboard it contains should
point us/you in the right direction for graphics card. Open the side panel off
(if feasible) and look for any model numbers on the board.



Best of luck!













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I have not found out what card it is, maybe someone
else here knows which it is?
it is anoying as the installation was the graphical one, and it looked fine.
regards


H.J.Bathoorn wrote: 

On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote: 

I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way ofadministrating the server. What means do i have?(the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with somenew onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do notintend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill ifind one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?Regards Isak 

Use framebuffer i.e. fbdev as a driver...that should work for almost all cardswhat is the card, anyway?If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start your gui app remotely. 



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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:24, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
 This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
 administrating the server. What means do i have?
 (the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
 new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
 intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
 find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?
 
 Regards Isak
 
 Use framebuffer i.e. fbdev as a driver...that should work for almost
  all cardswhat is the card, anyway?
 
 If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with
 that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start
  your gui app remotely.
 I have not found out what card it is, maybe someone else here knows
 which it is?
 it is anoying as the installation was the graphical one, and it looked
 fine. regards


Whatever it is your graphics card is almost certainly supported.
I assume when you boot it is coming up with a text login prompt?

If so log in as root user and enter
XFdrake
You will see a text based GUI to set up your graphics card.
select 'Graphics card'  (Tab key moves between fields)
The card that was autodetected will be the first shown, but if that is not 
working for you scroll down to the 'Xorg' section (space bar expands the 
menu) select the 'vesa' driver. That  driver will work with just about every 
graphics card in existence.  (The vga driver should also work)
You will also need to set the screen resolution to one supported. Pick a 
conservative resolution initially (800x600) you can always change it later 
once you are working.

When you are done reboot with
shutdown -r now

derek

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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Isak Lyberth




The server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy Econel50, from the economic
series of their server
on their homepage they just state it as a integrated graphics card :(
the chipset-chip on the server has a cooling unit on, so i am unable to
tell you which chipset it is. Also i can't see any modelnumbers on the
mainboard

Regards Isak
Stephen Furlong wrote:

  
  

  
  
  Is it an
actual server or just a desktop
machine? Either way, some indication as to what motherboard it contains
should
point us/you in the right direction for graphics card. Open the side
panel off
(if feasible) and look for any model numbers on the board.
  
  Best of luck!
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Isak Lyberth
  Sent: 04 April 2005
22:24
  To:
newbie@linux-mandrake.com
  Subject: Re: [newbie]
means of
administrating mandrake
  
  
  I have not found out what card
it is, maybe someone
else here knows which it is?
it is anoying as the installation was the graphical one, and it looked
fine.
regards
  
  
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: 
  On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
   
  
I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
administrating the server. What means do i have?
(the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?

Regards Isak
 
  
  
  Use framebuffer i.e. "fbdev" as a driver...that should work for "almost" all 
  cardswhat is the card, anyway?
  
  If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with 
  that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start your 
  gui app remotely.
  
   
  
  




  
  
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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:25, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 The server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy Econel50, from the economic
 series of their server
 on their homepage they just state it as a integrated graphics card :(
 the chipset-chip on the server has a cooling unit on, so i am unable to
 tell you which chipset it is. Also i can't see any modelnumbers on the
 mainboard

 Regards Isak

 Stephen Furlong wrote:
  Is it an actual server or just a desktop machine? Either way, some
  indication as to what motherboard it contains should point us/you in
  the right direction for graphics card. Open the side panel off (if
  feasible) and look for any model numbers on the board.
 
 
 
  Best of luck!
 
 
 
  
 
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Isak Lyberth
  *Sent:* 04 April 2005 22:24
  *To:* newbie@linux-mandrake.com
  *Subject:* Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake
 
 
 
  I have not found out what card it is, maybe someone else here knows
  which it is?
  it is anoying as the installation was the graphical one, and it looked
  fine.
  regards
 
 
  H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 
 On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
 
 This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
 
 administrating the server. What means do i have?
 
 (the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
 
 new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
 
 intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
 
 find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?
 
 
 
 Regards Isak
 
 Use framebuffer i.e. fbdev as a driver...that should work for almost
  all
 
 cardswhat is the card, anyway?
 
 
 
 If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with
 
 that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start
  your
 
 gui app remotely.
 

BtTW...my bad: Derek pointed it out correctlyone needs the vesa driver for 
the framebuffer.fbdev is for Slackware. I get confused between my 2 
favourite distribs every now and then:-p

On initiating XFdrake on the console , take a look at what default Mdk 
defaults tousually it's the correct one/Driver.

If not give us the output of lspci so's we can guess at what card you might 
have..Contrary to popular belief, there are some cards that get probed 
all wrong and won't run without some tweaking help.especially kyros2 
based cards and some old ATI cards.

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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 04 April 2005 05:22 pm, Mr. Geek wrote:
 Isaak, Get your hands on the latest version of webmin at

 www.webmin.com

I thought that Mandrake changed the location of so much stuff that the default 
webmin was basically unusable for server administration.  Am I wrong about 
that?
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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 06:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
 I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
 This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of 
 administrating the server. What means do i have?
 (the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some 
 new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not 
 intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i 
 find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?
 
 Regards Isak

You have several choices here.

* Webmin - uses a web browser to administer the box

* VNC - You can have an X session running on the server that you can
access from a client machine (no matter what OS the client is)

* SSH - Tunnel into the machine and perform your duties.

I personally prefer to use Webmin and VNC to administer several boxes
here - not that they don't have un-supported video cards, but because of
the lack of monitors and keyboard (and space). Works like a champ. As
well, with doing updates/upgrades, SSH does just nicely.

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