Re: [newbie] Monitor setup

2003-01-05 Thread David Reynolds
On Sunday 05 January 2003 09:29 am, David Robertson stated:
 With regard to the monitor, the manual should give the horizontal and
 vertical frequencies, so those can be entered in the custom monitor
 settings.

 David

I have a sort of weird situation; I didn't know it was possible to overclock a 
monitor, but that's what I was doing to the old one. It was about 7 years 
old, part of a factory system with my 2nd computer, and when I switched to 
Linux (Mdk 8.1, 900 MHz, nVidia card, etc) I kept the monitor. It seemed to 
be working fine, and I didn't need the extra expense. Except...

Occasionally if I actually shut the monitor down and left it overnight, the 
system would freeze unrecoverable. The monitor acted like it was getting no 
signal, and there was no way to kill the X-server and recover it; I had to 
cold boot, which invariably caused a fsck. The strange bit was that if I left 
the monitor on and let it go to standby/sleep, it would be fine the next 
morning. So I learned to leave it on. Uptimes stood around a month or so, 
barring the occasional thunderstorm or vacation.

It finally started screwing around whether I shut it off or not, so I got a 
new monitor; I was tired of dealing with a 14 anyway.

So I got a new-to-me monitor, but there is no manual. It's a Dell/Sony 
Trinitron 17 (Model D1726T-HS). I've found some documentation online for it 
but dealing with new hardware isn't something I've really had to get a grip 
on before (I still haven't even bothered to get my nVidia card working).

I managed to completely mangle my XFree86 configuration last night, and then 
got it working again under 800x600x16m, which is where I was at before 
(though without the overclocking, thankfully). When I first set it up I got a 
virtual screen - larger than my display. I was aiming for 1024x768, and 
apparently that is what I got...sort of. Alt-Ctrl +/- got me into a stable 
situation, and I had to resave the session a few times.

Can anyone point me in the direction of how to resolve this without trashing 
my XFree86 setup again?

Thanks in advance,
David Reynolds
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Re: [newbie] Monitor setup

2003-01-05 Thread John Richard Smith
David Reynolds wrote:


On Sunday 05 January 2003 09:29 am, David Robertson stated:
 

With regard to the monitor, the manual should give the horizontal and
vertical frequencies, so those can be entered in the custom monitor
settings.

David
   


I have a sort of weird situation; I didn't know it was possible to overclock a 
monitor, but that's what I was doing to the old one. It was about 7 years 
old, part of a factory system with my 2nd computer, and when I switched to 
Linux (Mdk 8.1, 900 MHz, nVidia card, etc) I kept the monitor. It seemed to 
be working fine, and I didn't need the extra expense. Except...

Occasionally if I actually shut the monitor down and left it overnight, the 
system would freeze unrecoverable. The monitor acted like it was getting no 
signal, and there was no way to kill the X-server and recover it; I had to 
cold boot, which invariably caused a fsck. The strange bit was that if I left 
the monitor on and let it go to standby/sleep, it would be fine the next 
morning. So I learned to leave it on. Uptimes stood around a month or so, 
barring the occasional thunderstorm or vacation.

It finally started screwing around whether I shut it off or not, so I got a 
new monitor; I was tired of dealing with a 14 anyway.

So I got a new-to-me monitor, but there is no manual. It's a Dell/Sony 
Trinitron 17 (Model D1726T-HS). I've found some documentation online for it 
but dealing with new hardware isn't something I've really had to get a grip 
on before (I still haven't even bothered to get my nVidia card working).

I managed to completely mangle my XFree86 configuration last night, and then 
got it working again under 800x600x16m, which is where I was at before 
(though without the overclocking, thankfully). When I first set it up I got a 
virtual screen - larger than my display. I was aiming for 1024x768, and 
apparently that is what I got...sort of. Alt-Ctrl +/- got me into a stable 
situation, and I had to resave the session a few times.

Can anyone point me in the direction of how to resolve this without trashing 
my XFree86 setup again?

Thanks in advance,
David Reynolds
 


 

Basically you have to visit MCC - harware - monitor and set the choice 
of setting to
that which your

Dell/Sony 
Trinitron 17 (Model D1726T-HS)

is best capable of giving you , look in the screen
manual and try to match it.

You can then set your video card driver to deliver you 
the best it can and all should be well.

John



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Re: [newbie] Monitor setup

2003-01-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 10:40:41AM -0600, David Reynolds wrote:
 virtual screen - larger than my display. I was aiming for 1024x768, and 
 apparently that is what I got...sort of. Alt-Ctrl +/- got me into a stable 
 situation, and I had to resave the session a few times.

How did you get alt-ctrl +/- working under Mandrake.  It used to work great
on my old Slackware system, but I haven't got it to work on Mandrake.
Do I have to bypass the automatic configuration toold to get it?

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Re: [newbie] Monitor setup

2003-01-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 5:54 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 10:40:41AM -0600, David Reynolds wrote:
  virtual screen - larger than my display. I was aiming for 1024x768, and
  apparently that is what I got...sort of. Alt-Ctrl +/- got me into a
  stable situation, and I had to resave the session a few times.

 How did you get alt-ctrl +/- working under Mandrake.  It used to work great
 on my old Slackware system, but I haven't got it to work on Mandrake.
 Do I have to bypass the automatic configuration toold to get it?

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Works fine for me (under 9.0) once I got the correct monitor setting.  If it 
isn't set to recognise all the possible resolutions it won't work.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Monitor setup

2003-01-05 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 10:42 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 5:54 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote:
  On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 10:40:41AM -0600, David Reynolds wrote:
   virtual screen - larger than my display. I was aiming for 1024x768, and
   apparently that is what I got...sort of. Alt-Ctrl +/- got me into a
   stable situation, and I had to resave the session a few times.
 
  How did you get alt-ctrl +/- working under Mandrake.  It used to work
  great on my old Slackware system, but I haven't got it to work on
  Mandrake. Do I have to bypass the automatic configuration toold to get
  it?
 
  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Works fine for me (under 9.0) once I got the correct monitor setting.  If
 it isn't set to recognise all the possible resolutions it won't work.

 Anne

Ctl+Alt+ kbd '+'/'-'  will rotate through the resolutions defined in your 
/etc/X11/Xh86Config-4 file. Depending on the monitor you selected, there will 
be more/fewer resolutions defined. You can always edit the file and define a 
few more.


Here is a sample from my config

Subsection Display
Depth 16
Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubsection


derek

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Re: [newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Weaver

 yes i didbut in my case XFdrake=Xconfigurator...both commands
 start Xconfigurator ( i did a server install), maybe this is the reason why
 XF86Setup didnt get installed ? )
 meanwhile i solved the problem otherwise..by reinstalling and choosing
 the graphic card at install time..it now works pretty good...but
 nevertheless it would be interesting for me how to change video card
 without reinstalling every time.

 greets,

 --quay

You don't call XFdrake that way. The command line command to issue at the 
command prompt is "setuptool". You will be presented with a small menu of 
utilities to choose from. All to make it possible to configure your system. 
One of those is XFdrake. Give it a try. Drop out of a console from X by 
typing CTRL-ALT-F1, login as root, and type "setuptool" on the command line 
and see what happens. To get back to your X session the command is 
CTRL-ALT-F7.
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Re: [newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-16 Thread Quaylar



You don't call XFdrake that way. The command line command to issue at the
command prompt is "setuptool". You will be presented with a small menu of
utilities to choose from. All to make it possible to configure your system.
One of those is XFdrake. Give it a try. Drop out of a console from X by
typing CTRL-ALT-F1, login as root, and type "setuptool" on the command line
and see what happens. To get back to your X session the command is
CTRL-ALT-F7.
--
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

 Linus Torvalds



ahh--you are right.setuptool did the trick...didnt know of this 
commandbut now i do---thx alot...;)

--quay






Re: [newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-15 Thread Paul

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dave wrote:

I just put a new monitor on my system and now the grapical part of linux
won't come up. Question is: how do I change the settings from the command
line. I have tried Xconfigurator and XFdrake , but both take me to selecting
a video card only.

You can edit the  XF86config (or XF86Config-4) file in /etc/X11 through
vi, vi, vim, vi, pico, joe or emacs, and set your default resolution to
640x480 in the screen section. Select the subscreensection with the proper
pixels you intend to use and remove all the other resolution options
(better: copy the line, comment it out and modify the original line, for
easier backout).

Paul

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Re: [newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-15 Thread Quaylar

At 19:12 15.01.2001 +0100, you wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dave wrote:

 I just put a new monitor on my system and now the grapical part of linux
 won't come up. Question is: how do I change the settings from the command
 line. I have tried Xconfigurator and XFdrake , but both take me to selecting
 a video card only.



in my case neither of them does allow me to set my video card.instead 
both let me choose a monitor
is there any other way to select the video card ?..XF86Setup doesnt 
exist on my system, only xf86config which crashes all
the time

quay





You can edit the  XF86config (or XF86Config-4) file in /etc/X11 through
vi, vi, vim, vi, pico, joe or emacs, and set your default resolution to
640x480 in the screen section. Select the subscreensection with the proper
pixels you intend to use and remove all the other resolution options
(better: copy the line, comment it out and modify the original line, for
easier backout).

Paul

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Prove their value by fighting back.

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Re: [newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver

 in my case neither of them does allow me to set my video card.instead
 both let me choose a monitor
 is there any other way to select the video card ?..XF86Setup doesnt
 exist on my system, only xf86config which crashes all
 the time

 quay



Quay,

Have you tried to do it using XFdrake as I suggested in an earlier post? That 
utility should take care of it for you just fine.
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"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

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Re: [newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-15 Thread Quaylar

At 23:15 15.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:
  in my case neither of them does allow me to set my video card.instead
  both let me choose a monitor
  is there any other way to select the video card ?..XF86Setup doesnt
  exist on my system, only xf86config which crashes all
  the time
 
  quay
 
 

Quay,

Have you tried to do it using XFdrake as I suggested in an earlier post? That
utility should take care of it for you just fine.


yes i didbut in my case XFdrake=Xconfigurator...both commands 
start Xconfigurator ( i did a server install), maybe this is the reason why 
XF86Setup didnt get installed ? )
meanwhile i solved the problem otherwise..by reinstalling and choosing 
the graphic card at install time..it now works pretty good...but 
nevertheless it would be interesting for me how to change video card 
without reinstalling every time.

greets,

--quay



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Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

 Linus Torvalds





[newbie] monitor setup

2001-01-14 Thread Dave

I just put a new monitor on my system and now the grapical part of linux 
won't come up. Question is: how do I change the settings from the command 
line. I have tried Xconfigurator and XFdrake , but both take me to selecting 
a video card only.
-- 
Dave




[newbie] Monitor Setup Program Used During Installation - How to find it run?

1999-11-14 Thread Sevatio Octavio

How do you get back to that program that helped setup the monitor?  It had that visual 
test to see what your settings would look
like before you accept it.

Seve



Re: [newbie] Monitor Setup Program Used During Installation - How to find it run?

1999-11-14 Thread PaK_mAn

use Xconfigurator from a prompt
or XF86Setup
matt



Re: [newbie] Monitor Setup Program Used During Installation - How to find it run?

1999-11-14 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 How do you get back to that program that helped setup the monitor?  It had that 
visual test to see what your settings would look
 like before you accept it.
 
 Seve

boot to console mode (at LILO type "linux 3") and then type "setup"
and select "x configuration"
John