Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My Inbox Happily Received This From Ralph Slooten @ Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:13:01 +0100 (CET) If you followed the thread you'd know :-) mpg123 is coredumping with mandrake 9.0 when invoked by a program not started via the console (In my cases PSI and Nautilus) mpg321 fixes this it appears. Actually, it's coredumping since 8.2 well, i don't use gnome, the only thing i use is gqmpeg. can run it from the console! - -- - - -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99bMwy2aOKaP9DfcRAvMCAKCeUHQjTmkaRd92Lz+QsYN/XAJsmwCfTe/+ q/dE4voUElSEcP25FlzlW4g= =/VYp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My Inbox Happily Received This From Ralph Slooten @ Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:34:58 +0100 (CET) but if there is one annoying thing that irritates the hell out of me it's something so small causing all the problems. What's that problem ? for me, i still prefer running apps. from en xterm, since i'm a console lover ;) - -- - - -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99NoMy2aOKaP9DfcRAqbFAJ9Bdh1rVFI822fNcMLq+TPcKqmlgQCghcc5 OqaOj2oOy94rFzYgPxlY5ME= =+Ut9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:59:40 +0200 Mohammed Sameer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but if there is one annoying thing that irritates the hell out of me it's something so small causing all the problems. What's that problem ? for me, i still prefer running apps. from en xterm, since i'm a console lover ;) If you followed the thread you'd know :-) mpg123 is coredumping with mandrake 9.0 when invoked by a program not started via the console (In my cases PSI and Nautilus) mpg321 fixes this it appears. -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mpg123 coredumps
HI there all, This last Friday night I finally got the chance to upgrade to LM 9.0. One thing that I realized almost from the start was a problem with mpg123. At first I thought it had something to do with Fluxbox which I had to manually install (as it's not included on the CD's anymore :-( ). When I try invoke mpg123 via another program, in my case PSI sounds, each time there should be a sound (received message) I get a coredump. I traced it down to mpg123 which is configured in my PSI to run an mp3 sound. When I manually invoke the file via the console, it works fine. As I said, I thought this had something to do with Fluxbox, but when I logged into Gnome under a different account, I got the same there. It seems that as soon as mpg123 get's invoked via another program, it crashes. Upgrading mpg123 to the cooker release didn't help either, as I get the same problem. To make sure it wasn't being excluded I included the full path to the file (/usr/bin/mp3123) and the file it has to play was also given in the full path. Starting PSI via the console works, but not via a menu/shortkut. In Gnome this problem was playing an mp3 via nautilus (IE: Double-clicking on it as mpg123 is the default player). Has anyone else had this same problem, and is there a solution? It seems that Mandrake can't live without mpg123 anymore, and trying to uninstall it results in RPM wanting to delete about another 10 packages, including gnome and all (not what I'm planning of doing as the girlfriend WANTS Gnome... hehehe) Suggestions? Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
Ralph Slooten wrote: HI there all, This last Friday night I finally got the chance to upgrade to LM 9.0. One thing that I realized almost from the start was a problem with mpg123. At first I thought it had something to do with Fluxbox which I had to manually install (as it's not included on the CD's anymore :-( ). When I try invoke mpg123 via another program, in my case PSI sounds, each time there should be a sound (received message) I get a coredump. I traced it down to mpg123 which is configured in my PSI to run an mp3 sound. When I manually invoke the file via the console, it works fine. As I said, I thought this had something to do with Fluxbox, but when I logged into Gnome under a different account, I got the same there. It seems that as soon as mpg123 get's invoked via another program, it crashes. Upgrading mpg123 to the cooker release didn't help either, as I get the same problem. To make sure it wasn't being excluded I included the full path to the file (/usr/bin/mp3123) and the file it has to play was also given in the full path. Starting PSI via the console works, but not via a menu/shortkut. In Gnome this problem was playing an mp3 via nautilus (IE: Double-clicking on it as mpg123 is the default player). Has anyone else had this same problem, and is there a solution? It seems that Mandrake can't live without mpg123 anymore, and trying to uninstall it results in RPM wanting to delete about another 10 packages, including gnome and all (not what I'm planning of doing as the girlfriend WANTS Gnome... hehehe) Suggestions? Greetings Ralph So, if I understand you, you have a working mpg123 but it does not play with other apps. Does gnome have any way to enable/disable aRts ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
Ralph Slooten wrote: HI there all, This last Friday night I finally got the chance to upgrade to LM 9.0. One thing that I realized almost from the start was a problem with mpg123. At first I thought it had something to do with Fluxbox which I had to manually install (as it's not included on the CD's anymore :-( ). When I try invoke mpg123 via another program, in my case PSI sounds, each time there should be a sound (received message) I get a coredump. I traced it down to mpg123 which is configured in my PSI to run an mp3 sound. When I manually invoke the file via the console, it works fine. As I said, I thought this had something to do with Fluxbox, but when I logged into Gnome under a different account, I got the same there. It seems that as soon as mpg123 get's invoked via another program, it crashes. Upgrading mpg123 to the cooker release didn't help either, as I get the same problem. To make sure it wasn't being excluded I included the full path to the file (/usr/bin/mp3123) and the file it has to play was also given in the full path. Starting PSI via the console works, but not via a menu/shortkut. In Gnome this problem was playing an mp3 via nautilus (IE: Double-clicking on it as mpg123 is the default player). Has anyone else had this same problem, and is there a solution? It seems that Mandrake can't live without mpg123 anymore, and trying to uninstall it results in RPM wanting to delete about another 10 packages, including gnome and all (not what I'm planning of doing as the girlfriend WANTS Gnome... hehehe) Suggestions? Greetings Ralph So, if I understand you, you have a working mpg123 but it does not play with other apps. Does gnome have any way to enable/disable aRts ? John later, is there anything here of use, http://www.gtk.org/~timj/papers/guadec-csl-2001/ http://www.arts-project.org/ -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On 09 Dec 2002 06:20:35 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - well, believe it or not, this just told me heaps. Now I'm wondering if the mpg123 libs are what are the cause - because gmpeg and mpg123 use the same lib base. Try adding the following in your /etc/ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig after you've done this - then tell us if it works without the dumps: in /etc/ ld.so.conf /usr/lib /usr/local/lib --- Umm, yeah, I just did that (they weren't present there), and re-ran ldconfig, restarted PSI and tried, but no, the coredumps are still there :-( Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 06:34, Ralph Slooten wrote: On 09 Dec 2002 06:20:35 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - well, believe it or not, this just told me heaps. Now I'm wondering if the mpg123 libs are what are the cause - because gmpeg and mpg123 use the same lib base. Try adding the following in your /etc/ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig after you've done this - then tell us if it works without the dumps: in /etc/ ld.so.conf /usr/lib /usr/local/lib --- Umm, yeah, I just did that (they weren't present there), and re-ran ldconfig, restarted PSI and tried, but no, the coredumps are still there :-( Ralph -- What about re-installing the RPM package(s) for mpg123 now? -- Mon Dec 9 06:50:00 EST 2002 6:50am up 10:35, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.16, 0.38 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I was playing poker the other night... with Tarot cards. I got a full house and 4 people died. -- Steven Wright Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On 09 Dec 2002 06:51:06 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about re-installing the RPM package(s) for mpg123 now? Nope, don't work either :-( -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 06:55, Ralph Slooten wrote: On 09 Dec 2002 06:51:06 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about re-installing the RPM package(s) for mpg123 now? Nope, don't work either :-( -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Well, this really sucks (for you at least) - and you've already said that sound works for everything under all the desktops (Gnome/KDE)right? This is my mpg123 config: Usage: mpg123 [options] file(s) | URL(s) | - Options supported: --verbose or -v Increase verbosity --quiet or -qQuiet mode (no title or boilerplate) --gain N or -g N Set gain (audio volume) to N (0-100) --skip N or -k N Skip N frames into the file --verbose or -v Be more verbose in playing files -o dtSet output devicetype to dt [esd,alsa,arts,sun,oss] --audiodevice N or -a N Use N for audio-out --stdout or -s Use stdout for audio-out --au N Use au file N for output --cdr N Use wave file N for output --wav N or -w N Use wave file N for output --test or -t Test only; do no audio output --list N or -@ N Use playlist N as list of MP3 files --random or -Z Play files randomly until interrupted --shuffle or -z Shuffle list of files before playing -R Use remote control interface --aggressive Try to get higher priority --help or --longhelp Print this help screen --version or -V Print version information This version of mpg321 has been configured with esd as its default output device. ^^ Mine is using esd (e sound daemon) as it's enginehave you tried to change the engine to see if this resolves the issue? -- Mon Dec 9 07:00:00 EST 2002 7:00am up 10:45, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.17, 0.29 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn In case of fire, stand in the hall and shout Fire! -- The Kidner Report Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On 09 Dec 2002 07:05:16 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this really sucks (for you at least) - and you've already said that sound works for everything under all the desktops (Gnome/KDE)right? Yes, sound works fine here on Gnome and Fluxbox, at least sounds that are invoked via programs if that's what you mean. This version of mpg321 has been configured with esd as its default output device. To be honest, I don't even see esd in the packages list... installed or uninstalled! I thought mandrake dropped it. ^^ Mine is using esd (e sound daemon) as it's enginehave you tried to change the engine to see if this resolves the issue? No I haven't tried with others, because 'mpg123 file' works perfectly in the console... Seeing as nothing else is using any sound device at the same time, I presume this should definitely work, and not coredump, true? Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:21, Ralph Slooten wrote: No I haven't tried with others, because 'mpg123 file' works perfectly in the console... Seeing as nothing else is using any sound device at the same time, I presume this should definitely work, and not coredump, true? Greetings Ralph -- Ok, well, what I'm getting at, is when you type mpg123 ALONE at the prompt, what is the engine it says it's using? -- Mon Dec 9 07:35:01 EST 2002 7:35am up 11:20, 5 users, load average: 0.73, 0.28, 0.19 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Humans are communications junkies. We just can't get enough. -- Alan Kay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
None ;-) Is it my guess, you aren't using the official 9.0 release? Nothing meant by it, but I would presume that everyone has the saem packages... unless there is a security update I don't know about :-0 = High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! usage: mpg123 [option(s)] [file(s) | URL(s) | -] supported options [defaults in brackets]: -vincrease verbosity level -qquiet (don't print title) -ttestmode (no output) -swrite to stdout -w filename write Output as WAV file -k n skip first n frames [0]-n n decode only n frames [all] -ccheck range violations -yDISABLE resync on errors -b n output buffer: n Kbytes [0]-f n change scalefactor [32768] -r n set/force samplerate [auto]-g n set audio hardware output gain -os,-ol,-oh output to built-in speaker,line-out connector,headphones-a d set audio device -2downsample 1:2 (22 kHz)-4downsample 1:4 (11 kHz) -d n play every n'th frame only -h n play every frame n times -0decode channel 0 (left) only -1decode channel 1 (right) only -mmix both channels (mono) -p p use HTTP proxy p [$HTTP_PROXY] -@ f read filenames/URLs from f -zshuffle play (with wildcards) -Zrandom play -u a HTTP authentication string -E f Equalizer, data from file -Cenable control keys See the manpage mpg123(1) or call mpg123 with --longhelp for more information. -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:50, Ralph Slooten wrote: None ;-) Is it my guess, you aren't using the official 9.0 release? Nothing meant by it, but I would presume that everyone has the saem packages... unless there is a security update I don't know about :-0 = High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! usage: mpg123 [option(s)] [file(s) | URL(s) | -] supported options [defaults in brackets]: -vincrease verbosity level -qquiet (don't print title) -ttestmode (no output) -swrite to stdout -w filename write Output as WAV file -k n skip first n frames [0]-n n decode only n frames [all] -ccheck range violations -yDISABLE resync on errors -b n output buffer: n Kbytes [0]-f n change scalefactor [32768] -r n set/force samplerate [auto]-g n set audio hardware output gain -os,-ol,-oh output to built-in speaker,line-out connector,headphones-a d set audio device -2downsample 1:2 (22 kHz)-4downsample 1:4 (11 kHz) -d n play every n'th frame only -h n play every frame n times -0decode channel 0 (left) only -1decode channel 1 (right) only -mmix both channels (mono) -p p use HTTP proxy p [$HTTP_PROXY] -@ f read filenames/URLs from f -zshuffle play (with wildcards) -Zrandom play -u a HTTP authentication string -E f Equalizer, data from file -Cenable control keys See the manpage mpg123(1) or call mpg123 with --longhelp for more information. No - nothing I do is official - but I am using an updated/upgraded version of mpg123 that I compiled for MY system because I don't always trust pre-compiled binaries - hence the header: = High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3. Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! = ...I recompiled it because I was wanting to make sure that all my MM proggies ran at their best (Xine, Xmms, mpg123, mplayer and the likes) What is the default sound engine you're using? aRTS or ALSA or OSS ? -- Mon Dec 9 08:05:01 EST 2002 8:05am up 11:50, 5 users, load average: 0.65, 0.61, 0.39 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Intellect annuls Fate. So far as a man thinks, he is free. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My Inbox Happily Received This From Ralph Slooten @ Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:04:12 +0100 On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:32:33 +0200 Mohammed Sameer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the same problem with GQmpeg when i run GQmpeg from an xterm it works fine, When i run it from the mandrake menu or even from the run dialog i get a core file per song ;) and it doesn't play anything This is good news.. at least for me it is :-) It basically means that I'm not the only one on this whole big list that is experiencing this! To sum it up, this is EXACTLY my problem here... I still don't know the answer, except that I fear a buggy mpg123. same here ;) actually mpg321 solves this, but i do like mpg123 i tried to debug, but that's impossible! how do you attach the gdb to the mpg123 pid when it's changing every second !!! - -- - - -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE988/py2aOKaP9DfcRAozNAJ9nh1WuDoQlZgoJo0Y9MaoehhuGTwCeLZ67 douz0P4wTLk8HoetE3AS5og= =YXkl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My Inbox Happily Received This From Ralph Slooten @ Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:21:06 +0100 (CET) On 09 Dec 2002 07:05:16 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this really sucks (for you at least) - and you've already said that sound works for everything under all the desktops (Gnome/KDE)right? Yes, sound works fine here on Gnome and Fluxbox, at least sounds that are invoked via programs if that's what you mean. This version of mpg321 has been configured with esd as its default output device. To be honest, I don't even see esd in the packages list... installed or uninstalled! I thought mandrake dropped it. ^^ Mine is using esd (e sound daemon) as it's enginehave you tried to change the engine to see if this resolves the issue? No I haven't tried with others, because 'mpg123 file' works perfectly in the console... Seeing as nothing else is using any sound device at the same time, I presume this should definitely work, and not coredump, true? hey, that's mpg321 the problem is WITH mpg123! - -- - - -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE989E5y2aOKaP9DfcRAu/nAKDEzfYBMpsp1oJ5UsSfan200wqjagCgvLvF NeHIp0sGZzWzV1toflWtOq0= =ydTo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:09, Mohammed Sameer wrote: hey, that's mpg321 the problem is WITH mpg123! lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Nov 25 08:14 mpg123 - mpg321* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 178952 Apr 10 2002 mpg321* mpg123 is a symlink to mpg321 ...same diff... -- Mon Dec 9 10:20:00 EST 2002 10:20am up 14:05, 5 users, load average: 0.31, 0.44, 0.36 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn ignorance, n.: When you don't know anything, and someone else finds out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mpg123 coredumps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My Inbox Happily Received This From Stephen Kuhn @ 09 Dec 2002 10:25:12 +1100 On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:09, Mohammed Sameer wrote: hey, that's mpg321 the problem is WITH mpg123! lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Nov 25 08:14 mpg123 - mpg321* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 178952 Apr 10 2002 mpg321* that's true that's because mpg321 was developed to be a replacement for mpg123, that's why it adds a symlink to mpg123 if you go through its installation instructions, you'll find that you can disable this we have two packages mpg123 mpg321 - -- - - -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE98+aSy2aOKaP9DfcRAtztAKC0E1V8ZioflHQdfSY6c0cZ/V/ujQCePOWB m09RSvvg48FBDIN8oz0fq8Q= =7z5v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com