[newbie] Turn off computer only ends the session

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All

After having installed KDE 3.4 (which works fine), when I select turn
off computer, it only ends the session. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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RE: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-24 Thread steve.goodey
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Huff
 Sent: 22 January 2005 21:00
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Subject: Re: [newbie] turn off computer?
 
 
 Andy Yankovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

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  4. Is the anti-span feature built into KMail sufficient or should
  I pick a second program. If yes, what do you recommend?
 
 I would wait and see how well your present spam filter does.  
 If you still get too much spam (or too many false positives) 
 for your liking, then you could try other ones.  I like 
 popfile, myself.
 
http://popfile.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl

HTH,
eric

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Am I right in thinking that kmail does not have an antispam filter built
in. You have a choice of three plugins? Spamassassin, bogofilter or
annoyance filter.

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[newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Andy Yankovich

Hi guys,

My computer is used only by me. Never by another person.
I have a cable connection that is always on.

1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least nightly or keep them on all the time? 
2. Should I install some type of firewall for security reasons? I do not have any secret formula for Coca Cola or things like that on my system, but do have credit card and other financial  info, 
If yes, what do you recommend?
3. Ditto for anti-virus? If yes, what do you recommend?
4. Is the anti-span feature built into KMail sufficient or should I pick a second program. If yes, what do you recommend?

Looking forward to both your answers and *reasons*.

Andy


Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Eric Huff
Andy Yankovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My computer is used only by me. Never by another person.
 I have a cable connection that is always on.

You'll get a lot of suggestions, but here is what i do:

 1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least 
 nightly or keep them on all the time? 

I turn mine off to save power, but there is little or no need to do
it for stability.

 2. Should I install some type of firewall for security reasons? I 
 do not have any secret formula for Coca Cola or things like that 
 on my system, but do have credit card and other financial  info, 
 If yes, what do you recommend?

You will get a lot of answers here, but i just use a Linksys router
with a built in firewall.

Also, turn off any services you don't use.  MCC is the Mandrake
Control Center.  type mcc at the cli or find it in the menu system. 
Then system--services will show what is running.

 3. Ditto for anti-virus? If yes, what do you recommend?

No real need.  There are entire threads on why in the archives and
on the web.  :)

 4. Is the anti-span feature built into KMail sufficient or should 
 I pick a second program. If yes, what do you recommend?

I would wait and see how well your present spam filter does.  If you
still get too much spam (or too many false positives) for your
liking, then you could try other ones.  I like popfile, myself.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl

HTH,
eric

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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Avi Schwartz
Andy Yankovich wrote:
Hi guys,
My computer is used only by me. Never by another person.
I have a cable connection that is always on.
1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least nightly 
or keep them on all the time?

This is really up to you.  I keep mine on all the time (1) because I 
like to convenience of being able to access the Internet any time, day 
or night without having to wait for the computer to boot and (2) because 
I am running my own mail server.

2. Should I install some type of firewall for security reasons? I do 
not have any secret formula for Coca Cola or things like that on my 
system, but do have credit card and other financial info,

Yes.  Linux is good and secure but it is not completely hacker proof 
(nothing is).

If yes, what do you recommend?
Start with the firewall that ships with Mandrake and use the Mandrake 
Control Center to turn it on and configure it.

3. Ditto for anti-virus? If yes, what do you recommend?
Viruses at this point are not a problem for Linux, but if you serve mail 
to Windows machines or just want to be safe, you can use clamav.  You 
can install it via the mcc.

4. Is the anti-span feature built into KMail sufficient or should I 
pick a second program. If yes, what do you recommend?

Stick with the kmail anti-spam feature and if you are not satisfied, you 
can always look for something additional (like spamassassin).

Looking forward to both your answers and *reasons*.
BTW, you may want to turn off the reply-to setting.  It is normally not 
needed and it causes replies to go directly to you instead of the 
mailing list.
Also, there is no need to send html to this list.  Text is all you need.

Avi
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When you have robbed a man of everything, he is no longer in your power. He is 
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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Kenneth Rhodes
On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 15:15 -0600, Avi Schwartz wrote:
 Andy Yankovich wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  My computer is used only by me. Never by another person.
 
  I have a cable connection that is always on.
 
  1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least nightly 
  or keep them on all the time?
 
 This is really up to you.  I keep mine on all the time (1) because I 
 like to convenience of being able to access the Internet any time, day 
 or night without having to wait for the computer to boot and (2) because 
 I am running my own mail server.
 
  Andy, I'm like Avi - I like to keep my computer on and online
  for convenient access. Something about keeping the computer 
  on when it is not doing anything worthwhile strikes me as
  wasteful so I rationalize my indulgence by participating in
  one of the many distributed programming projects available
  on the web. If you are inclined to keep your computer running,
  I urge you to consider participating in one.

  Currently, I particpate in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project. You can
  find more information here:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/
  
  Essentially, these distributed programming projects allow
  you to run a program that processes data at the lowest
  priority rating.  I really cannot perceive any drag
  on my systems performance.

  Participating in one of these distributed programming
  projects is one of the easiest ways to make a
  worthwhile contribution to the commonweal.

  Sorry, to post off topic. You, or anyone who is interested
  in more information, please feel free to contact me.

  
-- 
Kenneth Rhodes
100% MicroSoft Free



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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:00:09 -0800
Eric Huff disseminated the following:

  1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least 
  nightly or keep them on all the time? 
 
 I turn mine off to save power, but there is little or no need to do
 it for stability.

Once you've stopped using your machine for some time, and the drives have spun
down and the monitor goes into powersave mode, how much are you really saving?

I've always been curious about that one.

  2. Should I install some type of firewall for security reasons? I 
  do not have any secret formula for Coca Cola or things like that 
  on my system, but do have credit card and other financial  info, 
  If yes, what do you recommend?
 
 You will get a lot of answers here, but i just use a Linksys router
 with a built in firewall.

I would second that. Linksys routers have always been my fav for such
'appliances', easy to configure, hackable, and they run Linux :-)

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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 23:15, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:00:09 -0800
 Eric Huff disseminated the following:
 
   1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least 
   nightly or keep them on all the time? 
  
  I turn mine off to save power, but there is little or no need to do
  it for stability.
 
 Once you've stopped using your machine for some time, and the drives have spun
 down and the monitor goes into powersave mode, how much are you really saving?
 
 I've always been curious about that one.
 
There is a theory that its the power spikes when you turn on equipment
that shortens their life - don't know how true it is though.



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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Eric Huff
  I turn mine off to save power, but there is little or no need to
  do it for stability.
 
 Once you've stopped using your machine for some time, and the
 drives have spun down and the monitor goes into powersave mode,
 how much are you really saving?

 I've always been curious about that one.

I am not really sure myself.  I have been planning for years to make
a little AC chord splitter so i can measure the current.

But i do know that the fan stays on and makes a lot of noise.  At
the moment, i am not even sure my hard drives shut down properly. 
But i haven't tried yet, either...

eric

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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Thread Eric Huff
1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at
least nightly or keep them on all the time? 
   
   I turn mine off to save power, but there is little or no need
   to do it for stability.
  
  Once you've stopped using your machine for some time, and the
  drives have spun down and the monitor goes into powersave mode,
  how much are you really saving?

 There is a theory that its the power spikes when you turn on
 equipment that shortens their life - don't know how true it is
 though.

Well, turning them on and off can shorten their lives.  It's
probably mainly the capacitors charging and discharging.

A reason *not* to leave them on is that when you do finally shut
down, and the disk drives park the heads all the way, they might
run into a big dust bunny that would have otherwise been cleaned on
previous shut downs.  I think that info came from Stephen Kuhn.

eric

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