Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-02 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Thursday 02 October 2003 12:27 pm, Thomas Williams wrote:
 So what do I do to find the problem?
 Where do I start?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Tom Williams

Hi Tom,
What is your graphics adapter? If it is S3 Trio, Mdk91's KDE31 has a known 
problem with it, you should upgrade qt3 and qt3-base.  

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Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Williams
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:34:12 +0700
Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is your graphics adapter? If it is S3 Trio, Mdk91's KDE31 has a known 
 problem with it, you should upgrade qt3 and qt3-base.  

Its an ATi something. I forget offhand exactly what. I'm pretty sure its not an S3 
Trio though. Wish it were that siple. After some more experimenting I've found out 
that its not really getting into KDE. I tried something that was suggested to me some 
time ago with another problem. That was to rename the .kde directory to something so 
that it would make a new one. Well, I did that, and it still didn't work and when I 
checked the directories, there was no .kde directory. I would imagine that if its 
getting as far as KDE that it would make a new directory and die there or work, but 
its not doing that.

I've also tried deleting any sort of what appears to be a temporary file, tried even 
deleting the .Xauthority file. Still doesn't work. I tried comparing it to the setup 
that does work and I haven't found anything significant.

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Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-02 Thread ed tharp
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 02:51, Thomas Williams wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:34:12 +0700
 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What is your graphics adapter? If it is S3 Trio, Mdk91's KDE31 has a known 
  problem with it, you should upgrade qt3 and qt3-base.  
 
 Its an ATi something. I forget offhand exactly what. I'm pretty sure its not an S3 
 Trio though. Wish it were that siple. After some more experimenting I've found out 
 that its not really getting into KDE. I tried something that was suggested to me 
 some time ago with another problem. That was to rename the .kde directory to 
 something so that it would make a new one. Well, I did that, and it still didn't 
 work and when I checked the directories, there was no .kde directory. I would 
 imagine that if its getting as far as KDE that it would make a new directory and die 
 there or work, but its not doing that.
 
 I've also tried deleting any sort of what appears to be a temporary file, tried even 
 deleting the .Xauthority file. Still doesn't work. I tried comparing it to the setup 
 that does work and I haven't found anything significant.
 
 Tom Williams
 
can you fix the word wrap? and next time, just my opinion, but instead
of 'delete' maybe it might be wiser to move a file (rename it) to
something with a number at the end, so instead of  'rm .Xauthority', try
'mv .Xauthority  .Xauthority1 and you can rename it back if you need to?


 
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Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Williams
On 02 Oct 2003 07:21:56 -0400
ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 can you fix the word wrap? and next time, just my opinion, but instead
 of 'delete' maybe it might be wiser to move a file (rename it) to
 something with a number at the end, so instead of  'rm .Xauthority', try
 'mv .Xauthority  .Xauthority1 and you can rename it back if you need to?


The word wrap thing is something that Sylpheed doesn't seem to handle that well, or 
perhaps I'm just not configuring something, I don't know. 

I didn't explain that right. I did say delete, but I was moving them. I could have 
just renamed them, but opted to move them instead. I'd move the .Xauthority file to my 
user /tmp directory. I also tried .ICEauthority as well, but neither helped.

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Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-02 Thread HaywireMac
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:10:39 -0400
Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 The word wrap thing is something that Sylpheed doesn't seem to handle
 that well, or perhaps I'm just not configuring something, I don't
 know. 

Handles it fine:

Configureation -- Common Prefs -- Compose

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Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Williams
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:39:59 -0400
HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Handles it fine:
 
 Configureation -- Common Prefs -- Compose

On the compose I set the word wrap options. Was that what you was suggesting? Perhaps 
it will take care of it.

Anyone got any suggestions on what is wrong with my X windows setup?

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[newbie] waiting for X server to shutdown

2003-10-01 Thread Thomas Williams
OK, here's the problem. I was running Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.5. I had it set up to use the 
trayicon. The problem was that it wasn't functioning properly. Instead of it showing 
up in the kicker it was showing up as a small icon on the desktop, yet there was a 
space for it on the kicker. After launching and shutting down Sylpheed a couple of 
times the space in the kicker was growing. There was now room for at least 3 icons. So 
I figured that if I shut down the X server and brought it back up everything would be 
right. Either that or just simply shut down the kicker and restart it, but I didn't 
like that idea so I opted for shutting down the X server. So I shut it down and then 
try to start it back up. I get Waiting for X server to shutdown. I kind of needed to 
get back into KDE (the WM I'm using) and I switched to root and launched it that way. 
After all, it would at least tell me where the problem was. It launched, it worked 
well, but I still had no clue as to what the problem w
 as. Its obvious that its something written to a file or something in my user space, 
but what? Anyway, I thought at one point I had it. I shutdown X server in root and 
tried my idea. Just some temporary files that I found. Something about .X0-lock. 
Anyway, tried my user launch again, still didn't work. So I tried to get back into KDE 
via root again. It too now says Waiting for X server to shutdown. What is going on 
here? I had to use linuxconf to create a new user and launch X server under that 
before I could actually use it. I'm afraid to shut down again for fear it'll do the 
same thing. Anyone got any ideas?

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[newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-01 Thread Thomas Williams
So I described what all was happening. I got a user setup that won't go into KDE and 
now I have root not going in as well. I'm running under and alternate user that I set 
up just for this. Oh a couple of facts I left out before, I'm running Mdk 9.1, 
whatever the version of X11 and KDE that comes with it. Also, after I couldn't get 
into KDE from the user login, I rebooted and tried again, didn't help. That was when I 
tried root and it worked once, but then not again. Can someone tell what is going on? 
Am I right is there some sort of temporary file that I need to kill in order to get it 
back up? I feel like I ought to know how to fix this, but its just beyond my 
fingertips, ya know?

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Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?

2003-10-01 Thread Thomas Williams
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:06:55 -0400
Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I described what all was happening. I got a user setup that won't go into KDE and 
 now I have root not going in as well. I'm running under and alternate user that I 
 set up just for this. Oh a couple of facts I left out before, I'm running Mdk 9.1, 
 whatever the version of X11 and KDE that comes with it. Also, after I couldn't get 
 into KDE from the user login, I rebooted and tried again, didn't help. That was when 
 I tried root and it worked once, but then not again. Can someone tell what is going 
 on? Am I right is there some sort of temporary file that I need to kill in order to 
 get it back up? I feel like I ought to know how to fix this, but its just beyond my 
 fingertips, ya know?
 
 Tom Williams
 
 


One last thing I wanted to add. There are no errors that I can find. I could probably 
include the log file from /var/log but I didn't see anything wrong. Also, I get the 
screen going black and then flashing blue (the background color that I let it default 
to) and then back to black and then finally back to the console. Now I did have some 
error messages appearing having to do with a device that it couldn't find. That was a 
mouse that I'm no longer using and I fixed that by editing the XF86Config file. 
Coincidently, when I first started using the alternate user account when I'd enter X 
I'd get a dialog box saying it couldn't start the sound server, something about being 
unable to access /dev/dsp  After correcting the XF86Config file to eliminate the mouse 
messages, the alternate user in X does have sound. I don't know how fixing a mouse 
problem could fix the sound, but hey at least that works! So what do I do to find the 
problem? Where do I start?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Williams

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