Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:49 am, Mark Mitchell wrote:
 I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
 before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
 be screwed.

 - Mark

Others deal with the upgrade issue.  Just to add my 2p worth -

You wouldn't try to upgrade, would you?  Most people have found that dodgy.  A 
clean install is to be preferred.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Michael Adams
And tar does do volumes.

On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:01, Brandon Vanderberg wrote:
 I haven't had any troubles installing Mandrake on a disk with an existing
 Windows 2000 NTFS partition. It was very clean. Obviously, you want to take
 your time and be very careful.

 On a side note, I would never have tried it even once without my important
 data backed up. I'd seriously think about finding some way to save that
 data. You say you have no way of backing up that much data right after you
 say that you can't afford to lose it. Can you afford 30 bucks and some time
 for a burner and a stack of cds? A second HD wouldn't be too much, and
 you'd have some quick and easy insurance. And a tape backup unit would be
 even better, but they're pretty pricey. So it's like the mechanic said,
 Good, Fast, Cheap - Pick two.

 On a side note to a side note, I know some people are right now have
 figured that it would take about 80 650MB CDs to do this, and then figuring
 out that how much time that would take. But that answer doesn't mean
 anything until it's compared to the time of recreating that 50GB worth of
 data from scratch.

 Anyway, hope it goes well for you.

 .02
 ~Brandon


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   Problem is I have over 50 gigs of MP3's and movies on the Windows
 partition that I cant afford to lose and I have no way of backing up that
 much data

   - Mark

   Keith wrote:

 Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders

 On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
   I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
 before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
 be screwed.

 - Mark

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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Mark Mitchell




If I do a clean install and format my Linux partitions will I still be able
to boot the windows 2000 partition through LILO?

- Mark

Anne Wilson wrote:

  On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:49 am, Mark Mitchell wrote:
  
  
I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
be screwed.

- Mark

  
  
Others deal with the upgrade issue.  Just to add my 2p worth -

You wouldn't try to upgrade, would you?  Most people have found that dodgy.  A 
clean install is to be preferred.

Anne

  
  

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  






Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread K. Spress



Before you do anything I would go ahead and use 
Symantec Ghost 2003 and back up the windows 2000 partition. You might be able to 
back up the Mandrake 8.0 with Ghost 2003 read the documentation
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark Mitchell 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Boot 
  Upgrade
  If I do a clean install and format my Linux partitions will I 
  still be able to boot the windows 2000 partition through LILO?- 
  MarkAnne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:49 am, Mark Mitchell wrote:
  
I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
be screwed.

- Mark

Others deal with the upgrade issue.  Just to add my 2p worth -

You wouldn't try to upgrade, would you?  Most people have found that dodgy.  A 
clean install is to be preferred.

Anne

  
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  


Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
Don't see why not.  I used to have W2K and Mdk 8.2 on this box and could boot 
to either from lilo.

Anne

On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:11 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
 If I do a clean install and format my Linux partitions will I still be
 able to boot the windows 2000 partition through LILO?

 - Mark

 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:49 am, Mark Mitchell wrote:
 I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
 before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
 be screwed.
 
 - Mark
 
 Others deal with the upgrade issue.  Just to add my 2p worth -
 
 You wouldn't try to upgrade, would you?  Most people have found that
  dodgy.  A clean install is to be preferred.
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 
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 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread John Richard Smith
It's your choice, either remove lilo with the dos switch  in which case 
your left with
w2k's own boot loader or leave lilo in place (it sits in the mbr) either 
way when
you come to install mandrake a new lilo will be written.
John


Mark Mitchell wrote:

If I do a clean install and format my Linux partitions will I still be 
able to boot the windows 2000 partition through LILO?

- Mark

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:49 am, Mark Mitchell wrote:
 

   I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
be screwed.

- Mark
   


Others deal with the upgrade issue.  Just to add my 2p worth -

You wouldn't try to upgrade, would you?  Most people have found that dodgy.  A 
clean install is to be preferred.

Anne

 

 





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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Keith
Buy  back up to another HDD..They are CHEAP now adays...

On Thursday 02 January 2003 09:59 pm, you wrote:
 Problem is I have over 50 gigs of MP3's and movies on the Windows 
 partition that I cant afford to lose and I have no way of backing up 
 that much data
 
 - Mark
 
 Keith wrote:
 
 Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders
 
 On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
   
 
 I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of 
 before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will 
 be screwed.
 
 - Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread et
 Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders
 
 On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
 I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
 before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
 be screwed.
 
 - Mark
back up is not something you do once before you screw with things, like saving 
documents you are working on, it is something to be done often. 
that said
you will not have any problem with the M$ partitions as long as you do an 
expert install and do not screw with any fat or ntfs partitions. I boot, 
WinME (hda1), MDK 7.0 to 9.0 (clean installs across 2 harddrives,hda5 for 
/home, hda6 for/, hda7 for swap, and hdc5 fat data, hdc6 for /var) and  hda8 
has Win2k.
lilo sees the win2k bootloader as windows and then I choose either win2k or 
winMe.
never a problem since Lilo overcame the 1024 cyl limit.


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RE: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Adolfo Bello
Title: Message



I have 
done this several times without any problem.

Adolfo

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
  Behalf Of Mark MitchellSent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:11 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] 
  Dual Boot UpgradeIf I do a clean install and format my 
  Linux partitions will I still be able to boot the windows 2000 partition 
  through LILO?- MarkAnne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 03 Jan 2003 2:49 am, Mark Mitchell wrote:
  
I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
be screwed.

- Mark

Others deal with the upgrade issue.  Just to add my 2p worth -

You wouldn't try to upgrade, would you?  Most people have found that dodgy.  A 
clean install is to be preferred.

Anne

  
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  


Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-03 Thread Bob Read
Keith wrote:
 
 Buy  back up to another HDD..They are CHEAP now adays...
 
 On Thursday 02 January 2003 09:59 pm, you wrote:
  Problem is I have over 50 gigs of MP3's and movies on the Windows
  partition that I cant afford to lose and I have no way of backing up
  that much data
 
  - Mark
 
  Keith wrote:
 
  Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders


Yes!  Personally, I generally use a dual boot drive.  When I want
to try something -- update/upgrade, or anything risky -- I first
clone the drive and try the update, etc. on that.  If anything 
goes wrong I still have the original drive.  

DriveCopy, or one of the other cloners, makes a great backup.

Bob



  
  On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
  
  
  I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
  I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of
  before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will
  be screwed.
  
  - Mark
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
   
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-02 Thread Keith
Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders

On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
 I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of 
 before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will 
 be screwed.
 
 - Mark
 
 
 


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Mitchell




Problem is I have over 50 gigs of MP3's and movies on the Windows partition 
that I cant afford to lose and I have no way of backing up that much data
 
 - Mark

Keith wrote:

  Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders

On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
  
  
I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of 
before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will 
be screwed.

- Mark




  
  
  






RE: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade

2003-01-02 Thread Brandon Vanderberg



I 
haven't had any troublesinstalling Mandrake on a disk with an 
existingWindows 2000 NTFS partition. It wasvery 
clean.Obviously, you want to take your time and be very 
careful.

On a 
side note, Iwould never have tried it even once without my important data 
backed up. I'dseriously think about finding some way to save that 
data.You say you have no way of backing up that much data right after you 
say that you can't afford to lose it. Can you afford 30 bucks and some 
timefor a burner and a stack of cds?A second HD 
wouldn't be too much, and you'd have some quick and easy insurance. And a tape 
backup unit would be even better, but they'repretty pricey. So it's like 
the mechanic said, "Good, Fast, Cheap -Pick two."

On a 
side note to a side note, I know some people are right now have figured that it 
would take about80 650MB CDs to do this, and then figuring out that how 
much time that would take. Butthat answerdoesn't mean anything until 
it's comparedto the time of recreating that 50GB worth of data from 
scratch.

Anyway, hope it goes well for 
you.

.02
~Brandon


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Behalf Of Mark MitchellSent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:00 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Boot 
Upgrade
Problem is I have over 50 gigs of MP3's and movies on the Windows 
  partition that I cant afford to lose and I have no way of backing up that much 
  data- MarkKeith wrote:
  Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders

On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote:
  
I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0
I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of 
before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will 
be screwed.

- Mark