Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
On Thursday 21 March 2002 02:47 am, Mandrake Newbie wrote: When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. I've also got a BTC 40X. I bought it some time ago in an pinch 'cause I could pick it up locally. It's not a very good drive (el cheapo). I keep threatening to replace it, but then all of a sudden it'll start cooperating ;) It often has problems with install CD's. Many times taking several attempts and a many threats to get it kick started. I'd imagine that 32mb would be slow. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an add-on reply. P166 with 32MB should be enough to run SNF, it may not be snappy, but it works, I had it running on a P120. Have you tried text mode install? But why is it that when I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm... How did the install fail? SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system. I am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network cards. Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed. You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF. Dual-boots are impossible. When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you list should be no problem w/ SNF I don't know. AFAIK, when I am about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get the source and compile it. I'm sorry for asking a very newbie question again but how can I compile the source of SNF if my hard disk drive is fresh? Thanks again... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm... How did the install fail? SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system. I am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network cards. Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed. You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF. Dual-boots are impossible. When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Use a different CDROM and use text mode install. You have nothing to gain from GUI install anyway, since the installed version can operate headless and has no local GUI. The poor quality and slow speed of install with the GUI is from your video card which doesn't support framebuffer, so VGA (16 color) gets used instead. Once installed, you use a web browser from one of your local computers to configure the firewall with graphical tools. The firewall itself can run (if the BIOS permits) without monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and possibly with the video card removed. My little IBM P166 runs with only a mouse because its BIOS will stop booting and complain if it is not there on boot. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Ugh... great suggestions But I do lack $. *Sigh* I will keep forging ahead with SNF *have yet to set it up*, and if that fails I will investigate LRP. Thanks Gerald, as always your info is useful. Femme On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 18:33, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Wednesday 20 March 2002 05:15 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Gerald Waugh wrote: Someone recently posted a URL for source. In your case you will have to install some kind of a Linux distro, maybe LM 7.X, then compile it.??? Having looked at the issues for a while, I don't think SNF is the thing for a 486. I would get LRP on an IDE flash disk. search google for LRP Linux Router Project why do you recommend that particular solution whats a flash disk? Femme LRP is a very small system that does routing and firewall among others It will actuall fit on floppy. It is very stable. An (IDE) flash disk is a solid state disk, you plug it in just like a hard disk. You can get flash disk with LRP installed (I think). -- Gerald Waugh http://frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
i personally on a 486-8mb ram, no HDD only floppy have had better success with freesco than LRP. http://www.freesco.org LRP is htpp://www.linuxrouter.org moose. On March 20, 2002 10:05 am, you wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get the source and compile it. I'm sorry for asking a very newbie question again but how can I compile the source of SNF if my hard disk drive is fresh? Someone recently posted a URL for source. In your case you will have to install some kind of a Linux distro, maybe LM 7.X, then compile it.??? Having looked at the issues for a while, I don't think SNF is the thing for a 486. I would get LRP on an IDE flash disk. search google for LRP Linux Router Project -- Gerald Waugh Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
why do you recommend that particular solution whats a flash disk? Femme Gerald Waugh wrote: Someone recently posted a URL for source. In your case you will have to install some kind of a Linux distro, maybe LM 7.X, then compile it.??? Having looked at the issues for a while, I don't think SNF is the thing for a 486. I would get LRP on an IDE flash disk. search google for LRP Linux Router Project -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have another suggestion Fix your system time. I am getting letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that) I overlooked this problem. I'm using M$ Win98 when I'm reading and sending e-mails using this account. The rest of my jobs, I use my Mandrake 8.1. Thanks for reminding me. God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Thanks... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Get the source and compile it. -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:34, you wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you list should be no problem w/ SNF Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Just an add-on reply. P166 with 32MB should be enough to run SNF, it may not be snappy, but it works, I had it running on a P120. Have you tried text mode install? Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:34, you wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you list should be no problem w/ SNF _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Thanks... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hmmm... How did the install fail? SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system. I am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network cards. Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed. You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF. Dual-boots are impossible. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
I have yet to be able to find the source don't have a clue how to compile it. URLs? :) Femme Gerald Waugh wrote: Get the source and compile it. -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 09:09 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: I have yet to be able to find the source don't have a clue how to compile it. URLs? :) You are TOO good at triming (no content), what are we talking about.? -- Gerald Waugh http://frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
oops SNF Pls ;) apologies I over cut Femme Gerald Waugh wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2002 09:09 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: I have yet to be able to find the source don't have a clue how to compile it. URLs? :) You are TOO good at triming (no content), what are we talking about.? -- Gerald Waugh http://frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one computer? Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, for this kind of setup? Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of setup? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one computer? Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, for this kind of setup? Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of setup? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have another suggestion Fix your system time. I am getting letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com