Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-21 Thread Rick Murphy

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Rick Fry wrote:
 Original Message Follows
 Rick Fry wrote:


Give it up Dude,  go back from whence you came.

Rick "Mulerider"
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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-21 Thread Daryl Sinclair

Good Bye..
  someone will miss YOU

- Original Message -
From: Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 7:50 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere


 I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
 It's totally FUCKING USELESS
 Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
 losers are just wasting your lives.

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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-20 Thread Rick Fry

I'll be the first to admit that the monitor that I use is a $200 special at 
Sears. And, I too am getting the black on black menus and background until I 
put a graphic back there. Then the labels are black on black and so are the 
menus until I highlight them. Right now, I'm using Windows 2000 release 
candidate 1 with the monitor set at 1280x1024 at 24 bit color with NO 
problems like I'm getting in Linux. Even Windows 98 second edition uses 
these parameters.


Original Message Follows
I had a similar video configuration problem.  The default setting
Xconfigurator was choosing was giving a black screen with blackish icons (I
think that means that the refresh rates don't synch).  My problem was solved
by manually choosing my display settings in Xconfigurator.  Another thing I
tried is reducing the type of monitor to one not quite so good (in custom
monitor section).  My monitor, being on the cheaper end of the scale does
not work well at its maximum settings.  By reducing the setting the picture
quality improved considerably.

I suffered similar problems using my hardware with Windows 95.  My monitor
does not perform well at its maximum refresh rates etc and I have terrible
problems under Win95 with my AWE64 soundcard.  If the soundcard is enabled
in the device manager, Windows will not boot.  I have to boot with the
soundcard disabled and then manually turn on the soundcard using Device tab
- a real pain in the arse if you forget to turn it off at the end of the
session (Windows crashes on startup, reboot into safe mode, turn soundcard
off, reboot again).

I might have problems with sound permissions with my Linux box, but at least
the card makes noise!

  -Original Message-
  From:Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:Friday, 20 August 1999 9:43
  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
 
  My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration to go 
1024x768
 
  but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This makes it just 
a
 
  tad difficult to read.
 
 
  Original Message Follows
 
  Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake.
 
  I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.
 
  I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11   but have found no way..
  even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.
 
  As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts
  putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on 
the
  PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..
 
  So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly
  enough
  for my current system.
 
  I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box
  with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.
 
  James
 
 
 
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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-20 Thread Matt Stegman

I think that this is due a video card driver limitation in XFree86.  Bad
settings for the monitor would produce different results.  I know that my
card (Diamond Stealth 3D 4000) works fine at 32bpp in Windows, but in
Linux, I can't use 32bpp without running into what you're describing.  You
might try a lower color depth, but the same resolution- does that help?

-Matt Stegman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Rick Fry wrote:

 I'll be the first to admit that the monitor that I use is a $200 special at 
 Sears. And, I too am getting the black on black menus and background until I 
 put a graphic back there. Then the labels are black on black and so are the 
 menus until I highlight them. Right now, I'm using Windows 2000 release 
 candidate 1 with the monitor set at 1280x1024 at 24 bit color with NO 
 problems like I'm getting in Linux. Even Windows 98 second edition uses 
 these parameters.
 
 
 Original Message Follows
 I had a similar video configuration problem.  The default setting
 Xconfigurator was choosing was giving a black screen with blackish icons (I
 think that means that the refresh rates don't synch).  My problem was solved
 by manually choosing my display settings in Xconfigurator.  Another thing I
 tried is reducing the type of monitor to one not quite so good (in custom
 monitor section).  My monitor, being on the cheaper end of the scale does
 not work well at its maximum settings.  By reducing the setting the picture
 quality improved considerably.
 
 I suffered similar problems using my hardware with Windows 95.  My monitor
 does not perform well at its maximum refresh rates etc and I have terrible
 problems under Win95 with my AWE64 soundcard.  If the soundcard is enabled
 in the device manager, Windows will not boot.  I have to boot with the
 soundcard disabled and then manually turn on the soundcard using Device tab
 - a real pain in the arse if you forget to turn it off at the end of the
 session (Windows crashes on startup, reboot into safe mode, turn soundcard
 off, reboot again).
 
 I might have problems with sound permissions with my Linux box, but at least
 the card makes noise!
 
   -Original Message-
   From:  Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:  Friday, 20 August 1999 9:43
   To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:   Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
  
   My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration to go 
 1024x768
  
   but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This makes it just 
 a
  
   tad difficult to read.
  
  
   Original Message Follows
  
   Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake.
  
   I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.
  
   I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11   but have found no way..
   even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.
  
   As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts
   putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on 
 the
   PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..
  
   So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly
   enough
   for my current system.
  
   I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box
   with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.
  
   James
  
  
  
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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

Flame thrower locked and loaded.  hehehe

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Fry
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 7:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere
 
 
 I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
 It's totally FUCKING USELESS
 Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
 losers are just wasting your lives.
 
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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-20 Thread Civileme


Hmmm,
Ever try Accelerated-X? surf on over to CheapBytes or GatorOnline
or linuxmall and BUY it. Read the fine print first and make sure
the package they're selling is the one that supports your hardware.
Contact the manufacturer if in doubt.
My Panasonic CF-62 didn't work on one linux for graphics. Another
supplied 1024x768 with 256 colors. My final version runs Festen at
1024x768 with 16-bit color. In order to get it, I had to play with
modelines and erase those the X server was discarding, and change the internal
chip timing (!!)from the configuration file.
What's the difference? With Win95, Iused to lose the PDdrive
at odd intervals, and Ihad a lock-up about 3-4 times per week.
I'm still waiting for the first crash with Festen. I'd upgrade, but
Isee no reason to add the features of Venus on a P-133 with no real
upward path in disk size.
So, if you think Windows is so great, stay there. If you are unhappy
because your hardware is an orphan to linux think about (good heavens!!!)
paying for some software to help you.
Civileme
Rick Fry wrote:
I'll be the first to admit that the monitor that
I use is a $200 special at
Sears. And, I too am getting the black on black menus and background
until I
put a graphic back there. Then the labels are black on black and so
are the
menus until I highlight them. Right now, I'm using Windows 2000 release
candidate 1 with the monitor set at 1280x1024 at 24 bit color with
NO
problems like I'm getting in Linux. Even Windows 98 second edition
uses
these parameters.
Original Message Follows
I had a similar video configuration problem. The default setting
Xconfigurator was choosing was giving a black screen with blackish
icons (I
think that means that the refresh rates don't synch). My problem
was solved
by manually choosing my display settings in Xconfigurator. Another
thing I
tried is reducing the type of monitor to one not quite so good (in
custom
monitor section). My monitor, being on the cheaper end of the
scale does
not work well at its maximum settings. By reducing the setting
the picture
quality improved considerably.
I suffered similar problems using my hardware with Windows 95.
My monitor
does not perform well at its maximum refresh rates etc and I have terrible
problems under Win95 with my AWE64 soundcard. If the soundcard
is enabled
in the device manager, Windows will not boot. I have to boot
with the
soundcard disabled and then manually turn on the soundcard using Device
tab
- a real pain in the arse if you forget to turn it off at the end of
the
session (Windows crashes on startup, reboot into safe mode, turn soundcard
off, reboot again).
I might have problems with sound permissions with my Linux box, but
at least
the card makes noise!
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 20
August 1999 9:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
>
> My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration
to go
1024x768
>
> but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This
makes it just
a
>
> tad difficult to read.
>
>
> Original Message Follows
>
> Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake.
>
> I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.
>
> I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11
but have found no way..
> even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.
>
> As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but
it aborts
> putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another
item on
the
> PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..
>
> So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware
friendly
> enough
> for my current system.
>
> I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build
a specific box
> with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.
>
> James
>
>
>
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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!

1999-08-20 Thread Nick Kay

This guy is trolling you all.
(for the newbies a troll is someone
who instigates flamewars by using
inflammatory language)

Please don't pander to his wishes by responding.

(Ithought I sniffed a troll the other day ; )

ttfn
nick



RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-20 Thread tom950

Moron from Univ of Waikato trying to hide behind a hotmail address. How sad.

At 03:50 PM 8/20/99 +0100, you wrote:
I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
It's totally FUCKING USELESS
Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
losers are just wasting your lives.

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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!

1999-08-20 Thread BryanMoorehead



Do you put this in /etc/hosts.deny?

Thanks,
Bryan





"Ken Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/20/99 12:19:24 PM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings)
Subject:  RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!




Not a problem.  I flamed him at his hotmail account instead of
here and then promptly added *@hotmail.com to my list of junk
senders that automatically go to /dev/null.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Kay
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 8:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!


 This guy is trolling you all.
 (for the newbies a troll is someone
 who instigates flamewars by using
 inflammatory language)

 Please don't pander to his wishes by responding.

 (Ithought I sniffed a troll the other day ; )

 ttfn
 nick









Re: [RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere]

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Scottaline

Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
It's totally FUCKING USELESS
Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
losers are just wasting your lives.
==
OK, Rick.  We'll put you down as undecided 8-)


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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-20 Thread Civileme


hmmm,
Glad I dropped the sendername in a kill folder. Looks like he
is ready to distract us from our purposes.
Civileme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moron from Univ of Waikato trying to hide behind
a hotmail address. How sad.
At 03:50 PM 8/20/99 +0100, you wrote:
>I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
>It's totally FUCKING USELESS
>Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
>losers are just wasting your lives.
>
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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

I'm actually using Outlook98 as my mail reader so the comment about
/dev/null was actually more tongue-in-cheek.  It comes with a
configurable junk mail filter.

Now, to answer your question.

There is an anti-spam filter, I believe it is called clean, available
on your Mandrake distribution.  I don't think it works with sendmail
but is designed to work with one of the other mail servers available
on the distribution, which is probably a good thing because my
understanding is that sendmail is, excuse the expression, a bitch to
configure.

I know it's becoming a little cliche but check through the Linux docs,
or, if we are lucky, maybe one of the more enlightened souls can clue
us in on the use of this tool.

BTW, for those who don't know /dev/null actually exists.  It is a kind
of cyber black hole you can actually direct output to when you
don't want to see it, i.e. a program may create output that you don't
really need so you just redirect it to /dev/null so it doesn't bother
you.  i.e.

 [user somedirectory] # thisprogramprintsjunk  /dev/null

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
 
 
 
 
 Do you put this in /etc/hosts.deny?
 
 Thanks,
 Bryan
 
 
 
 
 
 "Ken Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/20/99 12:19:24 PM
 
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings)
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
 
 
 
 
 Not a problem.  I flamed him at his hotmail account instead of
 here and then promptly added *@hotmail.com to my list of junk
 senders that automatically go to /dev/null.  :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Kay
  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 8:20 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
 
 
  This guy is trolling you all.
  (for the newbies a troll is someone
  who instigates flamewars by using
  inflammatory language)
 
  Please don't pander to his wishes by responding.
 
  (Ithought I sniffed a troll the other day ; )
 
  ttfn
  nick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-20 Thread Manny Styles


- Original Message -
From: Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere


 I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
 It's totally FUCKING USELESS
 Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
 losers are just wasting your lives.

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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-20 Thread Ripcrd6

As I have said elsewhere, keep your vitriol to yourself.   Ask a decent
question and you may get the proper answer given the proper experience of
this crew with that hardware.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
It's totally FUCKING USELESS
Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
losers are just wasting your lives.





Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!

1999-08-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, James Schofield wrote:

  This guy is trolling you all.
  (for the newbies a troll is someone
  who instigates flamewars by using
  inflammatory language)
 
 
 
 I will admit that I am getting very frustrated with the hardware setup
 portion of linux.. but I am learning.. and it is just lack of knowledge of
 the system that is holding me back.
 
 One thing I find a bit of a problem as well is the fact that MOST books on
 Linux are written for one distro or another.. and not in general.. but it
 is just taking me a little longer thats all.
 
 I have succeeded in one thing though people.. I HAVE MY MODEM WORKING!!
 
 I have my Motorola Voicesurfer working now.. it was just a matter of using
 Setserial correctly and I am up and running now on ttys2 IRQ 11
 
 W HOOO!!!
 
 Now I have two things left..   My SB64 pci card which is sharing an IRQ
 with another PCI device and linux does not seem to like that.. even though
 it is PCI complaint.

My guess would be the onboard ide controler is conflicting with the
secondary on your mother board, disable one or the other.

 ANd my PNP ISA DLink 220 Networking card.. which I was not able to setup
 durring the install.. I would like to get it working now.. becuase I would
 like to make my own local area net with my laptops and my desktop.

Should work with the ne driver, be aware that Dlink doesn't always conform
to the ne2000 standard. The last Dlink i had required hacking the ne2000
driver to recognise the id string.
 
 James
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-20 Thread Steve Philp

Rick Fry wrote:
 
 I'm only going to say that I never heard of Accelerated-X. I never said that
 Windows was "great" or any other descriptive adjective. Hell, it doesn't
 properly multi-task and there are a lot of other problems. I'm just saying
 that I've never come across any of the problems you "Windoze haters" have
 had with it. I don't get any [let alone a lot of] BSOD's nor do I have to
 hack into regedit to get it to work. I installed Windows 2000 release
 candidate 1 last month or so and it automatically found my scanner, printer,
 and even my USB camera and configured to use them. I don't have to MOUNT
 anything in order to use it. I just want to access what's on my CD, I don't
 want to have sex with it nor am I a taxidermist. I don't want to have to go
 edit things in config files that I can access in menus in Windows. I even
 have Windows 98 second edition on the same partition as 2000. I only have
 that for the one or two things that don't work well in NT [or as it's also
 known as 2000]. My Memorex CDRW won't work in NT.
 
 Basically I'm running a Celeron 400 with 128M of ram and a total of 20G of
 hard disk space.

If you're happy being a user, that's fine.  There are plenty of people
in the world that just want things to work when they sit down at them. 
My parents are those kinds of people.  I have no problem with it, just
don't shit on the parade of those of us who really LIKE making things
work together that probably don't belong together.

There is a price you pay (right now) for using Linux.  That price is
diminished hardware support "out of the box".  It could even be as steep
as "it will never work with Linux" (in the case of WinModems).  Most of
us are perfectly willing to pay that price for an operating system and
supporting applications that don't nickel and dime us to death trying to
get some work done.

I don't have any inkling of encouraging my parents to move to Linux. 
The things they want to do are not available with it.  However, they
also don't have the kind of power and flexibility on their machine that
I have with mine.  

To each their own...
-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-20 Thread Rick Fry


Original Message Follows
Rick Fry wrote:
 
If you're happy being a user, that's fine.  There are plenty of people
in the world that just want things to work when they sit down at them.
My parents are those kinds of people.  I have no problem with it, just
don't shit on the parade of those of us who really LIKE making things
work together that probably don't belong together.

There is a price you pay (right now) for using Linux.  That price is
diminished hardware support "out of the box".  It could even be as steep as 
"it will never work with Linux" (in the case of WinModems).  Most of us are 
perfectly willing to pay that price for an operating system and supporting 
applications that don't nickel and dime us to death trying to get some work 
done.

I don't have any inkling of encouraging my parents to move to Linux.
The things they want to do are not available with it.  However, they
also don't have the kind of power and flexibility on their machine that I 
have with mine.

To each their own...
--

Actually the same thing can be said for all the Windows bashing folks that 
have the same amount of troubles getting that to work. I do have the "power 
and flexibility" but obviously not the right kind. I just became unemployed 
so I obviously don't have the financial resources to go out and buy the 
equipment necessary to make Linux work as ideally as my Windows does. But, 
that will hopefully change as I have several interviews scheduled for next 
week. Hopefully my 20 years of working with computers will be good for 
something.


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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-19 Thread Ripcrd6


James, don't lose the faith man.   I had the same problem w/ Mandrake 5.3
and have since replaced the sound card and modem with used parts that work
better in both windows and Mandrake than the old ones did.   I had a power
supply and a CD-ROM die on me at different times and replaced those too.
Some of my hardware didn't always play nice under windows95 either.   Just
try to stay w/ fairly standard parts.   For a modem, I went to a USR 33.6
internal w/ jumpers and on sound card I went to a Creative Sound Blaster 16
w/ half jumpers and half PnP and the PnP was still not recognized and I set
it up manually in sndconfig.   I tried three power supplies before one
worked and switched to an ATAPI compliant CD after the 1994 Panasonic w/
proprietary interface died.

If you are having trouble, but really want to try Linux just go to a local
computer store and see what used parts they have available.   Make sure you
can return the item if it doesn't work in your system.   See how much each
part is going to cost you and save up for a while, it is worth it.
Brian
my $0.02



Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake.

I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.

I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11   but have found no way..
even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.

As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts
putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on the
PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..

So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly
enough
for my current system.

I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box
with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.

James



Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-19 Thread Civileme


If your modem is a PCI or even if it is not, there is a chance (nearly
a certainty if it is PCI)that it is a Winmodem which will never work
under Linux. The hardware normally associated with a modem is replaced
by (secret) software DLed to it. It may be that such software does
not even fit the Linux security model, which keeps applications walled
off from the op system core. (That's why windows has 50,000 exploits
and viruses and linux laughs at such).
It is possible to relocate a PnP sound card's interrupts, and it is
possible to use pnpdump to build a basic isapnp.conf file, but your sound
card is PCI. The rig you mention smells highly proprietary.
I would hazard a guess or two at brand names from my own experience, but
I see no reason to.
Linux has requirements for hardware a little saner than those of Windows,
and of course it doesn't support those things made to run only under windows.
(Would you rather write a driver for a cheap, poorly-performing modem where
all is secret or one which supports all the latest bells and whistles for
which you have good hardware information, given that your time is limited
and you're not getting paid for it?)
Yes, it is possible to buy hardware that is distinctly unfriiendly to
Linux, and I fear that is what has happened here.
Civileme

James Schofield wrote:
Well I think I am going to give up on my install
of Mandrake.
I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.
I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11 but have
found no way..
even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.
As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts
putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item
on the
PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..
So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly
enough
for my current system.
I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific
box
with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.
James

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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-19 Thread James Schofield


Just so you all know .. I have said it before.. The modem is an ISA PNP
Motorola VOICESURFER.. it is hardware.. I can run it from dos.

The sound card.. well you cant get anymore brand name than Creative. Its a
SB64pci

James



Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-19 Thread Wayne Boaz

My AWE64 card was not identified properly either. I ran a report from my
Win98 side on all my devices, set it to the Win98 identified DMA channels
and it worked. To get a report (I am assuming you are dual boot and could be
wrong) right click 'My Computer', select 'Properties', select the 'Device
Manager' tab and then the 'Print' button on the bottom right. Select the
'All devices and system summary'  radio button and 'OK'. This resolved an
issue with both my PnP network card and my AWE64 card.

I hope this helps,
Wayne

- Original Message -
From: James Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!



 Just so you all know .. I have said it before.. The modem is an ISA PNP
 Motorola VOICESURFER.. it is hardware.. I can run it from dos.

 The sound card.. well you cant get anymore brand name than Creative. Its a
 SB64pci

 James




Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-19 Thread Rick Fry

My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration to go 1024x768 
but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This makes it just a 
tad difficult to read.


Original Message Follows

Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake.

I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.

I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11   but have found no way..
even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.

As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts
putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on the
PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..

So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly enough
for my current system.

I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box
with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.

James



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RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!

1999-08-19 Thread Aaron deRozario

I had a similar video configuration problem.  The default setting
Xconfigurator was choosing was giving a black screen with blackish icons (I
think that means that the refresh rates don't synch).  My problem was solved
by manually choosing my display settings in Xconfigurator.  Another thing I
tried is reducing the type of monitor to one not quite so good (in custom
monitor section).  My monitor, being on the cheaper end of the scale does
not work well at its maximum settings.  By reducing the setting the picture
quality improved considerably.

I suffered similar problems using my hardware with Windows 95.  My monitor
does not perform well at its maximum refresh rates etc and I have terrible
problems under Win95 with my AWE64 soundcard.  If the soundcard is enabled
in the device manager, Windows will not boot.  I have to boot with the
soundcard disabled and then manually turn on the soundcard using Device tab
- a real pain in the arse if you forget to turn it off at the end of the
session (Windows crashes on startup, reboot into safe mode, turn soundcard
off, reboot again).

I might have problems with sound permissions with my Linux box, but at least
the card makes noise!

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, 20 August 1999 9:43
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
 
 My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration to go 1024x768
 
 but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This makes it just a
 
 tad difficult to read.
 
 
 Original Message Follows
 
 Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake.
 
 I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card.
 
 I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11   but have found no way..
 even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it.
 
 As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts
 putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on the
 PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess..
 
 So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly
 enough
 for my current system.
 
 I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box
 with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run.
 
 James
 
 
 
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