Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: So that means that the drive is actually being maintained in a defraged state continually in the background? Most of it, yes. I have noticed some disk activity too at times that I was barely doing anything. And after that, a message at boot time that a certain partition was 1% non-contiguous had disappeared. Cool!! Paul -- If you lose money, you lose nothing. If you lose (the) honour, you lose a lot. If you lose your courage, you've lost everything. But if you lose friendship, then you've lost the world! )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know? rpm -qi msec HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~ !
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
If your security is set to High or Paranoid, it's running a nightly security system audit. -David Talbot At 06:58 AM 6/24/00 -0400, you wrote: I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know?
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
What if it's set to medium? If I remember correctly that's what I have mine set to. I tried setting it to because I don't yet have my firewall in place. That's another issue...anyway, when I set it to high I couldn't use sendmail, or httpd (internally) I use httpd internally to develope with PERL. I use sendmail with Pine just because it's a bit faster than my ISP's SMPT server. David Talbot wrote: If your security is set to High or Paranoid, it's running a nightly security system audit. -David Talbot At 06:58 AM 6/24/00 -0400, you wrote: I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know? -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Piero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know?
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
Joe Lore wrote: That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Piero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know? That IS an intersting question! I would be VERY interested in know that myself. I've been looking around the system and haven't seen anything like that yet, but if I would be running windows when that happened the other day and again this morning I would have sworn "Find Fast" was running and updating the file system indexes. -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
RE: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
you can use fsck which is kinda like scandisk i don't know about a defrag tool.(i once had an nt box that was 98% fragmented!) -Original Message- From: Joe Lore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 June 2000 14:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Piero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know?
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
ext3 filesystems don't need a defrag program because they don't become fragmented (Well they do, but not more than a fraction of a percent) as for scandisk, it's "fsck" or filesystem check. If you yank the cable out of the wall, or power off your computer without shutting down, next boot time it will automatically run fsck on the effected drives. This can take a long time. (1-20 minutes) ReiserFS to the rescue... an option on the 7.1 installation was to format your partitions as ReiserFS. It is very similar to ext2 in performance and near nill fragmentation, but is Journaled. In other words, keeps a record of what is written so if the system is powered off without shutting down it "knows where to look" for half written blocks on the disk thus making filesystem checks take signifigantly less time (1-10 seconds) -David Talbot At 09:42 AM 6/23/00 -0400, you wrote: That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Piero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know?
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
I looked at the cron.daily and it's probably rotating the log files. To see what your system is running at midnight look at: /etc/cron.daily -david Talbot At 09:42 AM 6/23/00 -0400, you wrote: That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Piero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know?
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Joe Lore wrote: That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe I already saw a "defrag.tgz" package, but AFAIK, the ext2 driver takes care of defragmentation by itself. About scnadisk, there is e2fsck. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~ !
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
That sounds awesome. Almost enough to make me want to upgrade to 7.1 already. Even though my 7.0 installation is just over a week old! -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 David Talbot wrote: ext3 filesystems don't need a defrag program because they don't become fragmented (Well they do, but not more than a fraction of a percent) as for scandisk, it's "fsck" or filesystem check. If you yank the cable out of the wall, or power off your computer without shutting down, next boot time it will automatically run fsck on the effected drives. This can take a long time. (1-20 minutes) ReiserFS to the rescue... an option on the 7.1 installation was to format your partitions as ReiserFS. It is very similar to ext2 in performance and near nill fragmentation, but is Journaled. In other words, keeps a record of what is written so if the system is powered off without shutting down it "knows where to look" for half written blocks on the disk thus making filesystem checks take signifigantly less time (1-10 seconds) -David Talbot At 09:42 AM 6/23/00 -0400, you wrote: That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Piero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight? I'd like to know the same thing! This has happened to me also on two occassions. It starts on the primary HDD and goes through all of them until it's satisfied. Eats up a lot of CPU doing it too! It's like there's a massive search going on. What's up with this? -- Mark I love my Linux Box! REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563 On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Piero wrote: Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on furiously for a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, program set up by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at crontable(s) and acron tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the patience to study their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't fint a man page. Daoes anybody know?
Re: [newbie] What happens at midnight?
flupke wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Joe Lore wrote: That actualy spawns a question. Are there disk tools we can use in Mandrake, ie.. defrag, scandisk etc..? Thanks Joe I already saw a "defrag.tgz" package, but AFAIK, the ext2 driver takes care of defragmentation by itself. About scnadisk, there is e2fsck. HTH Flupke -- There's no place like ~ ! So that means that the drive is actually being maintained in a defraged state continually in the background? -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
RE: [newbie] What happens at midnight? -- This!
Several things happen at night. 1) Msec runs it's security updates 2) If tripwire is installed it runs it's check 3) slocate runs to create the "locate" database 4) makewhatis runs to create the "whatis" database 5) Most of your services are stopped as ... 6) the logrotate job runs to truncate archive the old logs 7) then your services are restarted 8) tmpwatch runs to clean the /tmp files 9) anacron runs to update time stamps 10)unused TeX fonts are removed 11)Inn Daemons run if installed 12)A postfix checker is run 13)News is expired 14)Unused modules are removed from Memory All in all Linux is VERY busy at night... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Piero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 6:35 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] What happens at midnight? | | | |Everyday, around midnight, my hard disk strts to work and goes on |furiously for |a few minutes. It must be a supervising, cleaning, controlling, |program set up |by Mandrake to act regularly at this time. | |I'd very much like to know wat it is. Tried to look at |crontable(s) and acron |tables, without much success: for one side I haven't had the |patience to study |their format, for the other they seem to launch programs for which I didn't |fint a man page. | |Daoes anybody know? |
