Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-25 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:28:37 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, I've finally got it up and running.  I needed to reboot the
 computer for KDM to show XFce4.  (Was that in your directions?  I
 apologize, if it was, since that means I wasted your time.)  But, I
 wanted to say thanks a lot for helping me out and creating the rpms
 for XFce4.
 
 
 Jack

To tell you the truth, I don't remember if I rebooted or not. I have an
11-month old daughter who has discovered the buttons on the computer and
for a while there she was turning it off 2 or 3 times a day. But I don't
*think* it's necessary; when I learned how to do it I added entries for
fluxbox and oroborus, and I'm pretty sure I didn't reboot to see them.

Did you rename your 19xfce4 to 19XFce4? Just wondering if *that* was
case-sensitive and had to match everything else.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-24 Thread Brooks3J
Ok, I'm pretty sure I've got everything downloaded and installed, and I have the 
executable file 19xfce4 where I'm supposed to.  However, I still do not have XFce4 in 
my kdm startup menu.  Here's the kdmrc file's contents.  Is there something wrong with 
it?

[Desktop0]
BackgroundMode=Flat
BlendBalance=100
BlendMode=NoBlending
ChangeInterval=60
Color1=33,68,156
Color2=192,192,192
CurrentWallpaper=0
LastChange=0
MinOptimizationDepth=1
MultiWallpaperMode=NoMulti
Pattern=
Program=
ReverseBlending=false
UseSHM=false
Wallpaper=/usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png
WallpaperList=
WallpaperMode=Scaled

[General]
PidFile=/var/run/xdm.pid
Xservers=/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers

[Shutdown]
HaltCmd=/sbin/halt
LiloCmd=/sbin/lilo
LiloMap=/boot/map
RebootCmd=/sbin/reboot
UseLilo=true

[X-*-Core]
AllowNullPasswd=false
AllowRootLogin=false
AllowShutdown=Root
AutoReLogin=false
Reset=
Resources=/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
Session=/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
Setup=
Startup=
SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin

[X-*-Greeter]
AntiAliasing=true
AuthComplain=false
EchoMode=OneStar
FailFont=Sans,12,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0
FocusPasswd=false
GUIStyle=Galaxy
ColorScheme=Galaxy
GreetFont=Sans,24,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
GreetString=Welcome to %n
GreeterPosFixed=false
GreeterPosX=0
GreeterPosY=0
HiddenUsers=adm,bin,daemon,games,halt,lp,mail,news,nobody,operator,root,rpc,rpcuser,rpm,shutdown,sshd,sync,uucp,xfs,
Language=en_US
LogoArea=None
LogoPixmap=
MaxShowUID=65535
MinShowUID=500
PreselectUser=None
SelectedUsers=
SessionTypes=KDE,GNOME,XFce4,Enlightenment,IceWM,Sawfish,Waimea,failsafe,default
SortUsers=true
StdFont=Sans,12,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
ShowUsers=All

[X-:*-Core]
AllowNullPasswd=true
AllowRootLogin=true
AllowShutdown=All
NoPassEnable=false
NoPassUsers=

[X-:0-Core]
Authorize=true
AutoLogin1st=true
AutoLoginEnable=false
Reset=/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
Setup=/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
Startup=/etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole

[X-:1-Core]
Authorize=true

[Xdmcp]
Enable=false
KeyFile=/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
Willing=
Xaccess=/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess



Also, perhaps I've got my 19xfce4 file wrong.  Here are its contents:

 NAME=XFce4
ICON=xfce4.png
EXEC=/usr/bin/startxfce4
DESC=The bleeding edge
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/bin/startxfce4

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Ever since I've download this stuff, however, other problems have been occuring.  For 
example, everytime I try to use mplayer to play a wmv file or xine to play a quicktime 
file (I have the plugins installed for both of these programs), xine and mplayer both 
just lock up.  RealPlayer 8 does the same when I try to view some RealPlayer files 
from the web.  Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-24 Thread Brooks3J
Ok, I've finally got it up and running.  I needed to reboot the computer for KDM to 
show XFce4.  (Was that in your directions?  I apologize, if it was, since that means I 
wasted your time.)  But, I wanted to say thanks a lot for helping me out and creating 
the rpms for XFce4.


Jack

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:14:42AM -0700, Grant wrote:
 I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.  I've
 downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct order plus a
 few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download page to add an
 XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under My startup
 script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from KDM I end up
 in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!

Grant,

You can ignore the My startup script and use XFcd4's script, which is
at /usr/local/bin/startxfce4. So, you'd have to edit
/etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
to that script in both the exec lines.

Note that NAME in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 is case-sensitive in that
you need to use the same thing in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. So, if
it's XFce4 in the first it needs to be that in the second.

Clear as mud? As an alternative, if you want to use the my startup
script, did you make it executable? (chmod +x scriptname)

Let us know how you get along.

Cheers,
Todd

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Brooks3J
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So, you'd have to edit
/etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
to that script in both the exec lines.


Todd,
  When I installed everything (I think) I did not get the above file (certainly not in 
the above location anyway).  Did I do something wrong?  Also, how do I modify scripts? 
 If I open the file I can read it but it doesn't let me change anything.

Thanks for your time
Jack

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RE: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Grant

 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:14:42AM -0700, Grant wrote:
  I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.  I've
  downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct
 order plus a
  few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download
 page to add an
  XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under
 My startup
  script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from
 KDM I end up
  in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!

 Grant,

 You can ignore the My startup script and use XFcd4's script, which is
 at /usr/local/bin/startxfce4. So, you'd have to edit
 /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
 to that script in both the exec lines.

 Note that NAME in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 is case-sensitive in that
 you need to use the same thing in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. So, if
 it's XFce4 in the first it needs to be that in the second.

 Clear as mud? As an alternative, if you want to use the my startup
 script, did you make it executable? (chmod +x scriptname)

 Let us know how you get along.

 Cheers,
 Todd

Todd, thanks so much.  The key info for me was making the file executable
(so that's why those filenames are green).  I've installed all the packages
and am currently using your startup script.  What should my script look like
if I want to turn everything on and take it for a ride?  I don't seem to
have the default startup script under /usr/local/bin .  Thanks!

- Grant


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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:46:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  So, you'd have to edit
 /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
 to that script in both the exec lines.
 
 
 Todd,
   When I installed everything (I think) I did not get the above file (certainly not 
 in the above location anyway).  Did I do something wrong?  Also, how do I modify 
 scripts?  If I open the file I can read it but it doesn't let me change anything.
 
 Thanks for your time
 Jack

Jack, that is if you want to add an XFce4 entry to KDM, the graphical
login manager. If you don't want to do that, you can ignore it. 

You *can* use the startup script I provided, but I really think 
/usr/local/bin/startxfce4 is better. If you save it as .xsession
(backup your old .xsession if you have one) and choose Default in KDM,
it will execute the .xsession script. It has to be executable (chmod u+x
.xsession)

If you just log in via command line, you can execute
/usr/local/bin/startxfce4 to start xfce4.

I can't really help with GDM.

As far as modifying scripts, it must be a permission issue. Who owns the
script you want to modify? If you're talking about something system-wide
you most likely have to be root to modify it.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:34 -0700
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:14:42AM -0700, Grant wrote:
   I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.
I've
   downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct
  order plus a
   few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download
  page to add an
   XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under
  My startup
   script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from
  KDM I end up
   in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!
 
  Grant,
 
  You can ignore the My startup script and use XFcd4's script, which
  is at /usr/local/bin/startxfce4. So, you'd have to edit
  /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to
  point to that script in both the exec lines.
 
  Note that NAME in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 is case-sensitive in
  that you need to use the same thing in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.
  So, if it's XFce4 in the first it needs to be that in the second.
 
  Clear as mud? As an alternative, if you want to use the my startup
  script, did you make it executable? (chmod +x scriptname)
 
  Let us know how you get along.
 
  Cheers,
  Todd
 
 Todd, thanks so much.  The key info for me was making the file
 executable(so that's why those filenames are green).  I've installed
 all the packages and am currently using your startup script.  What
 should my script look like if I want to turn everything on and take it
 for a ride?  I don't seem to have the default startup script under
 /usr/local/bin .  Thanks!
 
 - Grant

Glad it's working. You don't have startxfce4 in /usr/local/bin?

Really all you need is:

xfce-mcs-manager 
xfwm4 --daemon
xftaskbar4 
xfdesktop 
exec xfce4-panel

I'm back to using the taskbar now instead of the iconbox; you can run
them both at the same time I suppose.

Most everything else is a panel plugin or available through setup.
Right-click the panel to add a new item or set the properties of the
various packages.

Cheers,
Todd

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