RE: [newbie] access denied - Tip
Using 9.2 will solve the cd-burning problem. Gnome has a buitin cd-writing ability just like windows. Just drag and drop. When mounting a ntfs partition it is always read-only. One way to solve it its to backup all your data on the partition that has the documents and stuff (always create a extra partition for putting your documents and stuff in, like a 20gig drive, you whould make it 10gig Windows and 10gig for documents. Make die extra partition fat32, linux can write to this and you are able to share it across windows and linux. My configuration is as follows. A 30 gig drive. 8gig = winxp 15 gig = my data 7 gig = linux I hope this helps. ~Jargon -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2004 09:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 February 2004 15:04, Weiers Coetser wrote: I'm sorry but I don't know if I really understand or if my problem is even the same. I'm running a Dual System mode - Windows XP and Mandrake 9.1 with KDE. This is only my second week that I am involved with Linux in any form. I manage to read all the files on my /mnt/win_d partition. I've copied them to my home folder and I'm in the process of converting them to the Open Office format. Once or twice i've tried to save files to the mnt/win_d or the mnt/win_c partitions, but each time I get a message that I could not be done. (No explanation of what exactly the problem is). I tried launching konquorer with the 'su' command, but I am still not able to write files onto that partition. I have a suspicion that the problem lies with the fact that Windows obviously runs on an NTSC file system and not Ext3. But I still have a slight hope that if Linux can read the NTSC format, it could also write it. Since I am still in the beginning stages of shifting to Linux (I've committed to doing this completely), I sometimes wish that I had access to a MP3 file that I ripped in Linux when I work in Windows. (I've not been able to get my A-Open CD Burner to work in Linux for example...although I believe it is possible). Off course windows does not even recognise Linux and therefore the files are inaccessible. So working with two systems becomes quite uncomfortable. Do I understand things right? Is there anything that I should do that I have not tried? Or should I just hurry up and get my Linux installed properly so that I can throw Windows into the dustbin? (A friend and I have ordered 9.2 and I should have it by the end of the week. I don't know what to expect, but hopefully I will have less trouble mounting my CD-writer with it.) If you have your windows on an ntfs partition, and it sounds as though you do, that is the reason. Reading from ntfs has been safe and stable for a long time, but writing to ntfs is still risky. Since you have 2 windows partitions, can I assume that one is a data partition? If so, back up your data files, then go into Mandrake Control Center (Configure Your Computer in 9.2) Mount Points. Shrink your data partition and create a fat32 partition. Restore your data to that partition, and it will be readable in both windows and linux. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAPE5NkFAvMr/nNX8RAgi+AJwMJjiyuxuWkheP9m7wCkg1TrrEZwCfU2EI UBg/59dns23Sw6yHtOEqglI= =g00r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 10:04, Weiers Coetser wrote: I'm sorry but I don't know if I really understand or if my problem is even the same. I'm running a Dual System mode - Windows XP and Mandrake 9.1 with KDE. This is only my second week that I am involved with Linux in any form. I manage to read all the files on my /mnt/win_d partition. I've copied them to my home folder and I'm in the process of converting them to the Open Office format. Once or twice i've tried to save files to the mnt/win_d or the mnt/win_c partitions, but each time I get a message that I could not be done. (No explanation of what exactly the problem is). I tried launching konquorer with the 'su' command, but I am still not able to write files onto that partition. I have a suspicion that the problem lies with the fact that Windows obviously runs on an NTSC file system and not Ext3. But I still have a slight hope that if Linux can read the NTSC format, it could also write it. Since I am still in the beginning stages of shifting to Linux (I've committed to doing this completely), I sometimes wish that I had access to a MP3 file that I ripped in Linux when I work in Windows. (I've not been able to get my A-Open CD Burner to work in Linux for example...although I believe it is possible). Off course windows does not even recognise Linux and therefore the files are inaccessible. So working with two systems becomes quite uncomfortable. Do I understand things right? Is there anything that I should do that I have not tried? Or should I just hurry up and get my Linux installed properly so that I can throw Windows into the dustbin? (A friend and I have ordered 9.2 and I should have it by the end of the week. I don't know what to expect, but hopefully I will have less trouble mounting my CD-writer with it.) Greetings __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I'm pretty much of Linux newbie myself. I _can_ read and write to NTFS on 2000, XP machines but I do so from the console. I get really flakey results when using conqueror, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I 'su' and mount my partitions like so: mount -t smbfs -o username=username,password=password,workgroup=workgroup,rw //ntmachine/share /mnt/ntmaching/share and unmount: umount -l /mnt/ntmachine/share I've found that this works even with NT hidden shares such as C$, D$, etc Hope this helps! Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
Have no idea if this has been answered or not.. but I've give it a shot anyway.. sounds to me like your XP partition is NTFS.. Linux can read NTFS fine, but can't write to it.. (well it can, but its probably as likely to trash the ntfs partition as it is to write to it.) so writing to NTFS is turned off by default.. If you wanna swap stuff back and forth between win and lin, you should create a FAT32 (win98 style) filesystem partition.. both linux and windows XP can read and write to that just fine. rgds Franki Weiers Coetser wrote: I'm sorry but I don't know if I really understand or if my problem is even the same. I'm running a Dual System mode - Windows XP and Mandrake 9.1 with KDE. This is only my second week that I am involved with Linux in any form. I manage to read all the files on my /mnt/win_d partition. I've copied them to my home folder and I'm in the process of converting them to the Open Office format. Once or twice i've tried to save files to the mnt/win_d or the mnt/win_c partitions, but each time I get a message that I could not be done. (No explanation of what exactly the problem is). I tried launching konquorer with the 'su' command, but I am still not able to write files onto that partition. I have a suspicion that the problem lies with the fact that Windows obviously runs on an NTSC file system and not Ext3. But I still have a slight hope that if Linux can read the NTSC format, it could also write it. Since I am still in the beginning stages of shifting to Linux (I've committed to doing this completely), I sometimes wish that I had access to a MP3 file that I ripped in Linux when I work in Windows. (I've not been able to get my A-Open CD Burner to work in Linux for example...although I believe it is possible). Off course windows does not even recognise Linux and therefore the files are inaccessible. So working with two systems becomes quite uncomfortable. Do I understand things right? Is there anything that I should do that I have not tried? Or should I just hurry up and get my Linux installed properly so that I can throw Windows into the dustbin? (A friend and I have ordered 9.2 and I should have it by the end of the week. I don't know what to expect, but hopefully I will have less trouble mounting my CD-writer with it.) Greetings Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
I believe the problem is with the XF file system. If you are using NTFS, you cannot write via Linux yet. (I believe that this is being worked on.) If however, you have a VFAT file system, you should be able to write successfully. That's the situation on my dual boot system. I can write just fine to my VFAT partition, but not to my NTFS partition. Joel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
I don't get it! How can I drag and drop files to a folder when I'm user? For the moment all I can do is write in my home directory. When I open KDE config panel as root there is no way to move files around. I think I missed something! Christophe ps: what is gksu and kdesu?? Le Dimanche 22 Février 2004 19:40, Jerry Barton a écrit : On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:46:46 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try going into a terminal, and typing 'su', then your password. Then, from the terminal, open whatever program you were using to move the files(i.e. if you were using konqueror, type 'konqueror'.) This is a root version of the program. Also, if you want to make the folder writeable for all users, type su in the terminal, your password, then type 'chmod 777 /path/to/folder'. --Marc Just as a tip to include: the gksu package allows you to run apps as root with a little gui to type in your password like kdesu but it's not a kde app. For those who don't use KDE there is a non-kde replacement :) to install just urpmi gksu. Then you can go to Run Command (or like in icewm, use the command input on the taskbar) and just put gksu programme name. I just found it myself a few days ago. Before that I was using kdesu but it would take forever to come up. Hope that's helpful to someone! Jer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 23 February 2004 17:32, Christophe Rhein wrote: I don't get it! How can I drag and drop files to a folder when I'm user? For the moment all I can do is write in my home directory. When I open KDE config panel as root there is no way to move files around. I think I missed something! You can only move files to and from a folder where you have write permissions. The way round it is to open a console, su to root, then launch konqueror - you will be running konq as root. Move the files as you wish, then check permissions to make sure that they are owned by the correct person or group. If you make directories somewhere that you want to share, create a group for the job, allocate the folder and programs inside it to the group, and make sure that the required users are in the group. What would be really nice would be for konqueror to open a root password dialogue when you try to do something like that. Sir Robin -- Caesar non supra grammaticos. - Suetonius Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 23 February 2004 14:47, robin wrote: What would be really nice would be for konqueror to open a root password dialogue when you try to do something like that. IOW - just like it used to in File Manager Super User g Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAOhl2kFAvMr/nNX8RAjMKAJ9LYjRk00dFOB8nU3Vm9WGVTwHd5wCeITD1 2125GTkD4sgMDX3QAsHexJg= =PU4U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 23 February 2004 10:32 am, Christophe Rhein wrote: I don't get it! How can I drag and drop files to a folder when I'm user? For the moment all I can do is write in my home directory. When I open KDE config panel as root there is no way to move files around. I think I missed something! Christophe ps: what is gksu and kdesu?? You've had good advice on how to move, view, and otherwise manipulate files or directories (what Windows users call folders) that your user identity would normally be unable to manage. Anything __su is an extension that will give your user temporary Super User permissions, but only if you know the correct Root password when it's requested by the system. See below for a second opinion. Just as a tip to include: the gksu package allows you to run apps as root with a little gui to type in your password like kdesu but it's not a kde app. For those who don't use KDE there is a non-kde replacement :) to install just urpmi gksu. Then you can go to Run Command (or like in icewm, use the command input on the taskbar) and just put gksu programme name. I just found it myself a few days ago. Before that I was using kdesu but it would take forever to come up. Hope that's helpful to someone! Jer. Christophe; If you want to be able to open directories that you don't own as a system user follow Anne's excellent advice for starting from a terminal. That method has the advantage of displaying errors and warnings when you do something not understood by the application you want to use. Or try this if you don't feel comfortable at the command line interface (in a terminal): Hold down the Alt button, strike the F2 key. In the Run dialogue that opens type: kdesu -flags name of application desired [Enter] or, gksu -flags name of application desired [Enter] In both cases you'll need to provide the Root password when the dialogues is displayed. For the -flags open a terminal and type kdesu --help or gksu --help [Enter] An example of the run command I use as the execute command in the Super User File Manager icon/link that I've been adding to users' desktops since that function disappeared from Mandrake 9.2: kdesu -nc konqueror Take anything I may say about gksu with a bucket of salt. I never use it, haven't installed it on this system, and am unlikely to have time this week to explore the intricacies. It probably works in a very similar way to kdesu. Since you're using KDE as your desktop (I think that's what you said) stick with kdesu for now. I know that works, unless you've cranked the security level so high there are permissions problems. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc4.1mdk 07:56:29 up 19:01, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.39, 0.26 Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. -- Robert Heinlein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAOhrdZqvqlrLPr5YRAv2YAKClu4yAuMZbvgLn5G/H7x0hlls2AQCfbgwP FrNfH2c4AsSF90elWav1xhs= =wPZP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] access denied - Tip
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:46:46 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try going into a terminal, and typing 'su', then your password. Then, from the terminal, open whatever program you were using to move the files(i.e. if you were using konqueror, type 'konqueror'.) This is a root version of the program. Also, if you want to make the folder writeable for all users, type su in the terminal, your password, then type 'chmod 777 /path/to/folder'. --Marc Just as a tip to include: the gksu package allows you to run apps as root with a little gui to type in your password like kdesu but it's not a kde app. For those who don't use KDE there is a non-kde replacement :) to install just urpmi gksu. Then you can go to Run Command (or like in icewm, use the command input on the taskbar) and just put gksu programme name. I just found it myself a few days ago. Before that I was using kdesu but it would take forever to come up. Hope that's helpful to someone! Jer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
