Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC(old, but relevant)

2003-06-17 Thread Dale Huckeby
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, JoeHill wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:27:03 -0500 (CDT)
 Dale Huckeby [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Nothing's going to change (at the government level) until _that_
  changes.
 
 Soo, what are you suggesting exactly? Killing is *wrong*, I repeat,
 *wrong*, I would never ever sanction or condone something like that!

  H.  Tape must be running.  :)

Dale Huckeby


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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC(old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:02, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 05:40, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~prillih3/blog/stories/2002/08/03/microsoftWantsAdminPrivile.html
 
 This impacts countries national security. Many governments won't take it
 easy.
 
 A huge mistake.
 
 Adolfo

Look, all in all, no one seems to be doing anything to stop Microsoft
from ditching every anti-trust suit thrown at them and doing as they
wish no matter what. Remember the browser BS? Now they're ditching
stand alone IE for an IE that's built into the system (as if it wasn't
in the first place) - so it would appear that everything that's been
done to keep them from being a monster monopoly (all the DOJ battle?)
have been completely for naught, and have cost the US public untold
millions of tax dollars just so that Microsoft can do as they want
anyways and get away with it. Palladium and Longhorn and DRM are moving
into the popular stream because most of the public doesn't have a clue
as to what it is or what it does - just that Microsoft says it's good!
and they go for it hook, line and sinker.

It's bad enough hypothesising about the reality of it, but in THINKING
about the reality of it, this is even more than scary. It's more than
Big Brother and even more than a breach in personal privacy.

It's hard to say what the US government is going to say because they're
already doing everything they can to bypass US citizens privacy and
personal rights and if they're in bed with Microsoft, then it's really
all for naught because then it WILL go through and it WILL be pushed
upon the rest of the computing world - whether it's right or not.

Microsoft has already shown that they have really no care about privacy
or security or even offering privacy or security to the end user -
just as much as the US government doesn't care about personal privacy or
personal security; so hand-in-hand this would end the computing world
and/or internet privacy/anonymity as we know it now.

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC(old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread Adolfo Bello


I am just trying to foresee what Microsoft will become if SCO wins. If
they can come out with this sort of EULA even when they feel threated by
Linux, just imagine what they would do if there were no challenging
alternative.

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC (old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread rikona
Hello Stephen,

Monday, June 16, 2003, 2:40:15 AM, you wrote:

SK microsoftWantsAdminPrivile.html

This is at the top of my list for why I tried MD. This box in front of
me is *MY* computer, not theirs!!

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC (old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread Duron . Davis
Problem is the lines you're using to tell us that ARE theirs

-Original Message-
From: rikona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:06 PM
To: Stephen Kuhn
Subject: Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your
PC (old, but relevant)


Hello Stephen,

Monday, June 16, 2003, 2:40:15 AM, you wrote:

SK microsoftWantsAdminPrivile.html

This is at the top of my list for why I tried MD. This box in front of
me is *MY* computer, not theirs!!

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC(old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread Dale Huckeby
On 16 Jun 2003, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 . . . lots o' snip

 Microsoft has already shown that they have really no care about privacy
 or security or even offering privacy or security to the end user -
 just as much as the US government doesn't care about personal privacy or
 personal security; so hand-in-hand this would end the computing world
 and/or internet privacy/anonymity as we know it now.

  Clinton tried to curb MS, but the Bush administration has been in bed
with them from the moment they took office.  Nothing's going to change
(at the government level) until _that_ changes.

Dale Huckeby


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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC(old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:27:03 -0500 (CDT)
Dale Huckeby [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Nothing's going to change (at the government level) until _that_
 changes.

Soo, what are you suggesting exactly? Killing is *wrong*, I repeat,
*wrong*, I would never ever sanction or condone something like that!

Never!

Ever!

Seriously, who cares about Bush and his cronies, they only run one
country, what are they going to do, nuke Linux?

LOL, half their National Security infrastructure is switching to
Linux.

--+ Joe Hill
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+ Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net
+ People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel?
+ Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution
+ comes.  




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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC(old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 02:40, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~prillih3/blog/stories/2002/08/03/microsoftWantsAdminPrivile.html
Possibly I don't need that tinfoil hat.


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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft wants admin privileges on your PC (old, but relevant)

2003-06-16 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 09:47, JoeHill wrote:
 For every
 roadblock they put up in front of us, we'll find a way around it, or
 we'll use Stephen's head as a battering ram, whichever...after years of
 abuse, I would imagine a 12 guage round to the cranium would just give
 him a headache.

12 gauge would seem more like a mozzie bite mate.

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