Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 30 June 2002 04:12 am, C.Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: When I 'hung up' before, it gave an error message about noatun crashing. Is this related? noatun seems to have started at boot-up. well in my experience, if the sound dies kills artsd but don't touch artd. rerun the app and my sound returns in all its glory. ymmv. artsd and setiathome seem to be the only unstable things on my box. at least artsd restasrts, seti takes the box with it. :-( - -- Nimda virus affects Linux! My linux boxes have had their bandwidth chewed up by four thousand Nimda servers infected with IIS. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IIDABwq+ZwvIN/oRAtLWAJ9nzTfUT7v2nMQIF+EMUY89QMFdRwCeIf4z NgE/xfBySkd/h0+yy2ZBZic= =VWXS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 9:15 am, you wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:58, Anne Wilson wrote: Paul wrote: In reply to C.Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:01:52 +0100: Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this? I know 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know what you're going to kill, don't you? First see if sndconfig (as root) can bring your sound back. Secondly, I would advise you to get GPS (Graphical PS). http://gps.seul.org This will show you all running processes in a window and allows you to Hang Up (SIGHUP) or kill (SIGKILL) processes through a buttonpress. You can also sort processes on prio, CPU usage and more, to make finding them easier. hope this helps, Sounds helpful - I'll try to get it. Anne Alternatives to GPS may already be on your disks, perhaps even installed. Try:- Applications Monitoring KDE System Guard or Applications Monitoring Process management Both will show CPU Usage, Memory Usage, and allow you to kill your processes from GUI. You're right, they're both there. I'm still having problems with my sound - the startup sound arrives minutes or hours after startup - and sure enough aRts was taking a slice of CPU and memory. I used the hang-up (this in Process Management) and got a crash message, though it wasn't clear just what had gone. Anyway, aRts disappeared, so I'm waiting to see if the sound problem improves. I'm assuming that I've got a cumulative problem, with a process never completing. Anne I've just logged out and back in - and the sound's fine! Multiple problems solved in one! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
On Friday 28 Jun 2002 10:47 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 9:15 am, you wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:58, Anne Wilson wrote: Paul wrote: In reply to C.Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:01:52 +0100: Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this? I know 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know what you're going to kill, don't you? First see if sndconfig (as root) can bring your sound back. Secondly, I would advise you to get GPS (Graphical PS). http://gps.seul.org This will show you all running processes in a window and allows you to Hang Up (SIGHUP) or kill (SIGKILL) processes through a buttonpress. You can also sort processes on prio, CPU usage and more, to make finding them easier. hope this helps, Sounds helpful - I'll try to get it. Anne Alternatives to GPS may already be on your disks, perhaps even installed. Try:- Applications Monitoring KDE System Guard or Applications Monitoring Process management Both will show CPU Usage, Memory Usage, and allow you to kill your processes from GUI. You're right, they're both there. I'm still having problems with my sound - the startup sound arrives minutes or hours after startup - and sure enough aRts was taking a slice of CPU and memory. I used the hang-up (this in Process Management) and got a crash message, though it wasn't clear just what had gone. Anyway, aRts disappeared, so I'm waiting to see if the sound problem improves. I'm assuming that I've got a cumulative problem, with a process never completing. Anne I've just logged out and back in - and the sound's fine! Multiple problems solved in one! :-) Spoke too soon. I had to boot Win98 this morning. Returned immediately to MK but have not had any sound since. Process Management shows artsd as running. When I 'hung up' before, it gave an error message about noatun crashing. Is this related? noatun seems to have started at boot-up. This is getting depressing. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
On Sunday 30 Jun 2002 12:12 pm, you wrote: snip I'm still having problems with my sound - the startup sound arrives minutes or hours after startup - and sure enough aRts was taking a slice of CPU and memory. I used the hang-up (this in Process Management) and got a crash message, though it wasn't clear just what had gone. Anyway, aRts disappeared, so I'm waiting to see if the sound problem improves. I'm assuming that I've got a cumulative problem, with a process never completing. Anne I've just logged out and back in - and the sound's fine! Multiple problems solved in one! :-) Spoke too soon. I had to boot Win98 this morning. Returned immediately to MK but have not had any sound since. Process Management shows artsd as running. When I 'hung up' before, it gave an error message about noatun crashing. Is this related? noatun seems to have started at boot-up. This is getting depressing. Anne More info - aRts Control - Status gives the following report: Artsd should run with realtime scheduling, but it does not (is artswrapper suid root?). The aRts sound daemon will not autosuspend right now since there are active modeles. Does this help pinpoint the problem? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 12:26 am, you wrote: C.Anne Wilson wrote: I have been exploring, trying to find out what is happening (or not) with these devices that I can't get working. Twice today I have got into the Control Panel, Information, and asked for information about usb devices, then found the Control Panel locked up. It can be minimised, but not closed. I could find no way out, so I had to ask for a shutdown. I got messages about failures due to 'illegal seek'. On re-starting there appears to have been massive damage (both times, so I daren't try again) requiring a manual fsck to repair it. Now my system is up, but my sound has disappeared. I'll just have to hope I haven't done irreparable damage. Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this? I know 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know what you're going to kill, don't you? All help gratefully received. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, whenever you cannot get to a console with ctrl-alt-F2 and login as root and 'ps ax | grep DrakConf' and kill it with a 'kill -9 (id of the program)' When you cannot do that, then ALT-SYSRQ (screen print key)-R puts the keyboard in RAW mode ALT-SYSRQ-S syncs the disks ALT-SYSRQ-B reboots Civileme harddrake may not be the way to go on non-working USB connected devices. There are several protocols uhci ohci ehci to name three. Better to look at /etc/modules.conf and see what you have loaded and for what purpose... Civileme Not sure I entirely understand. Are you saying that these three commands will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
SNIP Well, whenever you cannot get to a console with ctrl-alt-F2 and login as root and 'ps ax | grep DrakConf' and kill it with a 'kill -9 (id of the program)' When you cannot do that, then ALT-SYSRQ (screen print key)-R puts the keyboard in RAW mode ALT-SYSRQ-S syncs the disks ALT-SYSRQ-B reboots Civileme harddrake may not be the way to go on non-working USB connected devices. There are several protocols uhci ohci ehci to name three. Better to look at /etc/modules.conf and see what you have loaded and for what purpose... Civileme Not sure I entirely understand. Are you saying that these three commands will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown? Anne This tells you all about it http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/82/en/ref.html/ts-system-freeze.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Thursday 27 June 2002 07:08 am, C.Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled
masses, saying:
ALT-SYSRQ (screen print key)-R puts the keyboard in RAW mode
ALT-SYSRQ-S syncs the disks
ALT-SYSRQ-B reboots
Not sure I entirely understand. Are you saying that these three commands
will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown?
yes they will, but they are basically a last resort.
from so web page somewhere that i don't recall
Alt + SysRq + r puts the keyboard in 'raw' mode. Sometimes after only
this command you can try to kill the X server and all is well, if not,
press on.
Alt + SysRq + s attempts to write all unsaved data to disk ('sync' the
disk) to prevent file corruption.
Alt + SysRq + e sends a termination signal to all processes, that is
the same as killing every program running.
Alt + SysRq + i sends a kill signal to all processes. If any processes
are still running after the last key command this will clean up.
Alt + SysRq + u remounts all systems in read-only mode. This is to
prevent file system corruption.
Alt + SysRq + b reboots the system.
- --
Some software money can't buy. For everything else there's Micros~1.
shane
Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html
Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98
Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/
Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org
iD8DBQE9GytaBwq+ZwvIN/oRArsKAJ41zQEApk5tflivkhLBuf9A/azmtACePt1w
1mr8NPUuB/gTkB6Zqi46mn0=
=DFfD
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble - (a reference for the legally blind?)
On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:09, you wrote: SNIP Not sure I entirely understand. Are you saying that these three commands will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown? This tells you all about it http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/82/en/ref.html/ts-system-freeze.html Whoa! Why does the Mandrake 8.2 reference manual come forth with such huge print? When I substitute 81 for 82, I get the Mandrake 8.1 reference manual in a reasonable size, but the 8.2 ref manual has letters an inch high on my screen. What's going on with this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
But I definitely get sound from 4 speakers (not sure about the centre one) when I play mp3 files. This with an analogue cable. It may be stereo duplicated, of course, but it sounds good to me. Anne On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 4:05 am, you wrote: Jose, All I know is when I used the analog cable, I got two channel sound out of my SBLive, and when I switched to a digital cable, I got four-channel sound. No setting changes, no nothing. My explanation may be inaccurate, but I'll stick by the advice. There may be a way to mess with settings to make analog sound crank out of four (or more) speakers but changing the cable is much easier. Miark Jose M. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Eh, no. The audigy's and SBLive's DSP renders effects into the rear channels. It also can decode Dolby AC3 into 4 channel as well. There was a writeup not too long ago on MandrakeUser or MandrakeForum about enabling the Optical Bay which included directions for Digital, center channel, etc. configurations. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Miark |Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:04 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Surround Sound | | |Anne, | |I could be wrong, but I think only digital sound can be |processed into surround sound. CD audio doesn't because the |sound card just passes along a 2-channel analog signal. | |I bet if you used a SPDIF cable from your CD drive to your |sound card (the two-prong rather than the four-prong |connection on your CD drive) you'd get surround sound from CDs. | |Miark | |Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: | You may remember that a few weeks ago I asked about surround | |sound on | | my | Audigy card. Someone said his worked fine, but I got no further. | | I realise now that the kde startup sound is in surround sound. Today | for the first time I played an mp3 file, and that was in | |good surround | | sound too, so it seems to be just cd-player. Has anyone any | |idea what I | | can do about this? | | Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
On Tuesday 25 Jun 2002 6:22 pm, you wrote: In reply to C.Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:01:52 +0100: Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this? I know 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know what you're going to kill, don't you? First see if sndconfig (as root) can bring your sound back. sndconfig didn't seem to make any difference. However, on the last two boots I found that the startup sound issued forth about 10 minutes after startup. Presumably it had given up trying to do something and just got round to it. Secondly, I would advise you to get GPS (Graphical PS). http://gps.seul.org This will show you all running processes in a window and allows you to Hang Up (SIGHUP) or kill (SIGKILL) processes through a buttonpress. You can also sort processes on prio, CPU usage and more, to make finding them easier. I downloaded this, then ran into the usual trouble with dependencies. The message is (GTK-CONFIG NOT FOUND) gtk-config wasn't found. This means that you either don't have Gtk+ OR have a pretty old one OR have a broken installation. I downloaded all I could find, but the rpmfind link to Gtk+ shows a collection of files. I downloaded them all, but when trying to install I was told that they would conflict with something already in Mandrake (sorry, I forgo to write this one down). What do I do now? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
In reply to C.Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:01:52 +0100: Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this? I know 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know what you're going to kill, don't you? First see if sndconfig (as root) can bring your sound back. Secondly, I would advise you to get GPS (Graphical PS). http://gps.seul.org This will show you all running processes in a window and allows you to Hang Up (SIGHUP) or kill (SIGKILL) processes through a buttonpress. You can also sort processes on prio, CPU usage and more, to make finding them easier. hope this helps, Paul -- If a person gives you his time, he can give you no more precious gift. -Frank Tyger http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.7.7 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
Paul wrote: In reply to C.Anne's mail, d.d. Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:01:52 +0100: Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this? I know 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know what you're going to kill, don't you? First see if sndconfig (as root) can bring your sound back. Secondly, I would advise you to get GPS (Graphical PS). http://gps.seul.org This will show you all running processes in a window and allows you to Hang Up (SIGHUP) or kill (SIGKILL) processes through a buttonpress. You can also sort processes on prio, CPU usage and more, to make finding them easier. hope this helps, Sounds helpful - I'll try to get it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
Up-time was just long enough to write the email, then I halted, getting a failure message, due to /proc being busy - this after a halt/fresh boot. Does that suggest anything? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIG trouble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 June 2002 10:22 am, Paul did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Secondly, I would advise you to get GPS (Graphical PS). http://gps.seul.org This will show you all running processes in a window and allows you to Hang Up (SIGHUP) or kill (SIGKILL) processes through a buttonpress. also if what you want to kill is graphical, ctrl + alt + esc gives you the nasty skull and cross that destroys with a single mouse click. - -- Vini, vidi, Linux. I came, I saw, I got a real OS. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9GLkWBwq+ZwvIN/oRAp8nAJ9dxilw/VwwgYvRuf5ak9VXzcWDuQCdELmd n0FQXw6CwrXZmh2wmMmpoc4= =gQFl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
