Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:03:20 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab My K3b system device entry looks like this: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/cd (0, 0, 0) I only have one cd device, which is my burner, so would that account for the difference? No , It's just that you do not have your writer as a device, mounted, the /mnt/cdrom section is there for that . The rest adds various controls to the device, like fonts and access, but I cannot remember what the 0 0 on the end does.I should know but cannot recall. I guess that k3b does not actually have to access the device through the external system mount command, but can aecess it as a device using it's own built in mount command, I don't really know though. Pure guess. The k3b programme setup wizard added mine like it is , so I'm guessing quite a bit. I tend to use xcdroast for most gui writing, and cdrecord on the command line, but recently I added k3b , and found to my joy if can packet write, something I have never been able to do before. So that's a one up for k3b. I find that very usefull when wanting to add bits and pieces of software programmes to a CD for safe keeping, it doesn't insist on fixing the entire disc, thus leaving space for aditions. John k3b wizard added my entry like it is too. Maybe a difference in our setup requirements because of hardware/software?? I simple don't know. Something I have noticed that I would like to enquire about is the fact that under windows, my cdrw drive seems to be spinning a lot faster while operating. What could account for that? I have noticed this even when playing a music cd. The drive is a lot louder. Under Mdk it seems to be running quieter/slower. Seems like it is working OK under both however. I think this is a good sign, it means the device is reading data well, without having to accellerate the spin speed to do so. I like k3b too, but haven't tried anything else yet for Mdk. Nero is pretty simple to use under windows. You ought to do a man cdrecord in a terminal, and see if you can begin to understand the command line. After all these gui apps are merely a gui front ends to cdrecord to save you the effort of bothering to learn the command line. I personally like to know both. I like both. I see nothing wrong with gui apps, but I also like to know how things work. So I generally make an effort to learn both. If you ever want help with the command line , you only have to ask here and plenty of us will help you. For gui front ends I prefer xcdroast, I like it's eligant logical layout for a start. Basically you find everything you want to write a disc in apps withing it by selecting from botton boxes down the lefthand side of the main window, just follow procedures . Within each step of the way you have many choices to make, but defaults get you started. Before you can use xcdroast you must enter setup and get everything entered correctly, but once done, save and return to main window. You may need to install xcdroast, it's on your installation discs if you need to find it. Also, I have found Thomas Neiderwriter the author quite helpful in running down problems, particularly hardware issues. There is also Gcombust. I have never had a lot to do with it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:33:45 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab You ought to do a man cdrecord in a terminal, and see if you can begin to understand the command line. After all these gui apps are merely a gui front ends to cdrecord to save you the effort of bothering to learn the command line. I personally like to know both. I like both. I see nothing wrong with gui apps, but I also like to know how things work. So I generally make an effort to learn both. If you ever want help with the command line , you only have to ask here and plenty of us will help you. For gui front ends I prefer xcdroast, I like it's eligant logical layout for a start. Basically you find everything you want to write a disc in apps withing it by selecting from botton boxes down the lefthand side of the main window, just follow procedures . Within each step of the way you have many choices to make, but defaults get you started. Before you can use xcdroast you must enter setup and get everything entered correctly, but once done, save and return to main window. You may need to install xcdroast, it's on your installation discs if you need to find it. Also, I have found Thomas Neiderwriter the author quite helpful in running down problems, particularly hardware issues. There is also Gcombust. I have never had a lot to do with it. John Yes John, I think I may be up to the challenge of attempting to gain an understanding of the CL method after a bit. I really don't have much experience of cd recording by any means, so, I'm not hard and fast on any method. I have used gui's a bit though. I really like Linux, and the opportunities it provides for those of different style and ability to use CL or gui, or, both. Lots of helpful folks like yourself on this list make learning a relatively painless endeavor. ;-) Thanks. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:58:50 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab Angus Auld wrote: Thanks guys, I was having a LOT of trouble getting things to go right until I added the hdc=ide-scsi to my lilo.conf append line. This inclusion makes your ide device into a fake scsi-emulated device Here's my fstab: /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev 0 0 Is this correct? --Angus This script is correct Angus. What you now have is automount(as against supermount) and if you right mouse click on your desktop - create new CD-rom device, you can add a desktop icon to give you easy gui access to the device. I think your k3b entry is more like this , /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd/mnt/cdromauto ro,noauto,user,exec0 0 If you want supermount, then change the fstab entry to, none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,user,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 you have to go to Control center to add a desktop icon. John *** Thanks John, it seems like there is a bit of variation in my K3b entry from the one you included. My K3b system device entry looks like this: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/cd (0, 0, 0) I only have one cd device, which is my burner, so would that account for the difference? Things SEEM to be OK as far as what I've tried. Thanks again. Regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- ___ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.operamail.com, which allows you to send SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:58:50 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab Angus Auld wrote: Thanks guys, I was having a LOT of trouble getting things to go right until I added the hdc=ide-scsi to my lilo.conf append line. This inclusion makes your ide device into a fake scsi-emulated device Here's my fstab: /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev 0 0 Is this correct? --Angus This script is correct Angus. What you now have is automount(as against supermount) and if you right mouse click on your desktop - create new CD-rom device, you can add a desktop icon to give you easy gui access to the device. I think your k3b entry is more like this , /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd/mnt/cdromauto ro,noauto,user,exec0 0 If you want supermount, then change the fstab entry to, none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,user,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 you have to go to Control center to add a desktop icon. John *** Thanks John, it seems like there is a bit of variation in my K3b entry from the one you included. My K3b system device entry looks like this: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/cd (0, 0, 0) I only have one cd device, which is my burner, so would that account for the difference? No , It's just that you do not have your writer as a device, mounted, the /mnt/cdrom section is there for that . The rest adds various controls to the device, like fonts and access, but I cannot remember what the 0 0 on the end does.I should know but cannot recall. I guess that k3b does not actually have to access the device through the external system mount command, but can aecess it as a device using it's own built in mount command, I don't really know though. Pure guess. The k3b programme setup wizard added mine like it is , so I'm guessing quite a bit. I tend to use xcdroast for most gui writing, and cdrecord on the command line, but recently I added k3b , and found to my joy if can packet write, something I have never been able to do before. So that's a one up for k3b. I find that very usefull when wanting to add bits and pieces of software programmes to a CD for safe keeping, it doesn't insist on fixing the entire disc, thus leaving space for aditions. John John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:03:20 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab My K3b system device entry looks like this: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/cd (0, 0, 0) I only have one cd device, which is my burner, so would that account for the difference? No , It's just that you do not have your writer as a device, mounted, the /mnt/cdrom section is there for that . The rest adds various controls to the device, like fonts and access, but I cannot remember what the 0 0 on the end does.I should know but cannot recall. I guess that k3b does not actually have to access the device through the external system mount command, but can aecess it as a device using it's own built in mount command, I don't really know though. Pure guess. The k3b programme setup wizard added mine like it is , so I'm guessing quite a bit. I tend to use xcdroast for most gui writing, and cdrecord on the command line, but recently I added k3b , and found to my joy if can packet write, something I have never been able to do before. So that's a one up for k3b. I find that very usefull when wanting to add bits and pieces of software programmes to a CD for safe keeping, it doesn't insist on fixing the entire disc, thus leaving space for aditions. John k3b wizard added my entry like it is too. Maybe a difference in our setup requirements because of hardware/software?? Something I have noticed that I would like to enquire about is the fact that under windows, my cdrw drive seems to be spinning a lot faster while operating. What could account for that? I have noticed this even when playing a music cd. The drive is a lot louder. Under Mdk it seems to be running quieter/slower. Seems like it is working OK under both however. I like k3b too, but haven't tried anything else yet for Mdk. Nero is pretty simple to use under windows. Regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ * ** -- ___ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.operamail.com, which allows you to send SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:30 am, many eyes noted that Angus Auld wrote: I wonder if I still don't have it right? Things are working, at least so far. Here's my fstab: ** /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nod ev 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Is this correct? Regards. --Angus If it works, it's right. Rules are only guidelines in Linux. Charlie -- The mind for truth Begins, like a stream, shallow At first, but then Adds more and more depth While gaining greater clarity. - Saigyo (1118-1190) This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
- Original Message - From: Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:50:34 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:30 am, many eyes noted that Angus Auld wrote: I wonder if I still don't have it right? Things are working, at least so far. Here's my fstab: ** /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nod ev 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Is this correct? Regards. --Angus If it works, it's right. Rules are only guidelines in Linux. Charlie *** Hey Charlie, that's what I'm liking most about Linux. ;-) That sounds like a real freedom of choice and expression option. Rules can be pretty restrictive, and can prevent one from developing in a manner that is unique, as each is indeed unique. That's my philosophical statement for today. ;-) Best regards to you Charliethanks. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- ___ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.operamail.com, which allows you to send SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 14:39, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I have just installed my new CDRW in my Dell running Mandrake 9.1. I am unsure how to properly configure my /etc/fstab to enable mounting this device. I have automount disabled, and when I try mounting my cdrom device I get the following error: mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom Mandrake recognizes the CDRW on boot, and I am able to listen to music cd's, but can't mount a data cd. I will attach a copy of my /etc/fstab. I would sure appreciate some pointers here. TIA's. Regards. --Angus Angus, not sure this will help, but my CD-W works flawlessly with this line (all on one line, of course) : none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- ** Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
