Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 18 December 2003 08:10 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

TS  I have gotten rid of some large files in /var/log, /tmp is empty and I
TS  still have my 5.9G of / used up.  Until I can track down where the
TS  excessively large file(s) is/are, I wanted to 'reallocate' some of my
TS  /home partition (currently using 14%) to give to / so I can boot into X
TS  (then KDE).

Trey, how about doing this (go to / to get everything, and be root to see 
everything):

du -h  | grep [0-9]M
this will show you all directories larger than 1 MB (but smaller than 1GB)

or you can issue

du -h | grep [0-9][0-9]M
this will show you all  directories larger than 9 MB

and du -h | grep [0-9][0-9][0-9] for larger than  99MB etc.

if you want only directories between 9MB and 99MB do this
du -h | grep [0-9][0-9]M | grep -v [0-9][0-9][0-9]M

Maybe this will help you locate where all your drive space is going?

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 09:19:21AM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 18 December 2003 08:10 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 
 TS  I have gotten rid of some large files in /var/log, /tmp is empty and I
 TS  still have my 5.9G of / used up.  Until I can track down where the
 TS  excessively large file(s) is/are, I wanted to 'reallocate' some of my
 TS  /home partition (currently using 14%) to give to / so I can boot into X
 TS  (then KDE).
 
 Trey, how about doing this (go to / to get everything, and be root to see 
 everything):

This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...

A while back I made a checkinstall rpm for dutree, a du visualization
tool. It's pretty nifty. Screenshot:
http://clevername.homeip.net/mdk/dutree.png
Download from http://clevername.homeip.net/mdk/

It's ~ 60K so it doesn't take much space.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 19 December 2003 09:28 am, Todd Slater wrote:

TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...

Er...this was from a shell.  X is irrelevant... :-)

TS  A while back I made a checkinstall rpm for dutree, a du visualization
TS  tool. It's pretty nifty. Screenshot:
TS  http://clevername.homeip.net/mdk/dutree.png
TS  Download from http://clevername.homeip.net/mdk/
TS
TS  It's ~ 60K so it doesn't take much space.
TS
TS  Todd
TS
TS

Thanks for the link!

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:14:06AM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 19 December 2003 09:28 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 
 TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
 
 Er...this was from a shell.  X is irrelevant... :-)

Right, which is why I prefaced my response with 

This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...

(see above) :)

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 19 December 2003 11:18 am, Todd Slater wrote:
TS  On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:14:06AM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
TS   On Friday 19 December 2003 09:28 am, Todd Slater wrote:
TS  
TS   TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
TS  
TS   Er...this was from a shell.  X is irrelevant... :-)
TS
TS  Right, which is why I prefaced my response with
TS
TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
TS
TS  (see above) :)
TS
TS  t
TS
TS

Thats funny Todd - I misread what you meant - totally. I thought you were 
saying since we couldn't get into X, that du wouldn't work. Oh well, tis what 
I get for reading my mail after working 12 hour nightshifts. grin

Later... (after some sleep):-)

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:47:28AM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 19 December 2003 11:18 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 TS  On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:14:06AM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 TS   On Friday 19 December 2003 09:28 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 TS  
 TS   TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
 TS  
 TS   Er...this was from a shell.  X is irrelevant... :-)
 TS
 TS  Right, which is why I prefaced my response with
 TS
 TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
 TS
 TS  (see above) :)
 
 Thats funny Todd - I misread what you meant - totally. I thought you were 
 saying since we couldn't get into X, that du wouldn't work. Oh well, tis what 
 I get for reading my mail after working 12 hour nightshifts. grin
 
 Later... (after some sleep):-)

No prob--I figured it was just a misunderstanding--same happens to me.
Heck, most folks don't understand anything I say anyway! (I have the
unique ability not only to be uncomfortable in social settings but
online as well! There a pill for that?)

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 19 December 2003 03:11 pm, Todd Slater wrote:

TS  No prob--I figured it was just a misunderstanding--same happens to me.
TS  Heck, most folks don't understand anything I say anyway! (I have the
TS  unique ability not only to be uncomfortable in social settings but
TS  online as well! There a pill for that?)
TS
TS  Todd

Just gotta ask, do you feel more comfortable *here* (the Mandrake community) 
than anywhere else? I do... Sad I know, but true... :-)

PS well...except when I'm holding my 22 month old baby girl! :-

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-19 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:47 am, many eyes noted that Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 19 December 2003 11:18 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 TS  On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:14:06AM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 TS   On Friday 19 December 2003 09:28 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 TS  
 TS   TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
 TS  
 TS   Er...this was from a shell.  X is irrelevant... :-)
 TS
 TS  Right, which is why I prefaced my response with
 TS
 TS  This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...
 TS
 TS  (see above) :)
 TS
 TS  t
 TS
 TS

 Thats funny Todd - I misread what you meant - totally. I thought you were
 saying since we couldn't get into X, that du wouldn't work. Oh well, tis
 what I get for reading my mail after working 12 hour nightshifts. grin

 Later... (after some sleep):-)

I must also be tired because I read it the same way and couldn't figure out 
what it meant, thinking this was for the above, 

This won't help you since you can't get into X, but ...

and the following link was so that du could be run and viewed.

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-18 Thread Trey Sizemore
Lee Wiggers wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:19:59 +0200
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Derek Jennings wrote:
   

On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

 

Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to
   

start backup yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot
up say something tothe effect of (sorry not in front of the
machine now):
 

No room on / [0] expecting [2]

I haven't done anything new to the setup or installed/upgraded
   

anythingnew.
 

Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's just my
   

understanding),but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory,
I remembered that Istill have a couple of  .iso images taking up
some space (this is a 25GBdrive).  So just out of curiosity I
deleted them freeing up a couple ofgigs.  But when I restarted
the machine I got the same message aboutroot (/) being full then
taking me to the CLI login after some failedattempts to start X.
 

Just looking for some next steps and ultimately finding out why
   

thishappened.
 

Thanks.
   

If those iso images were on a different partition that could
explain why deleting them did not help.
There could be a few things using up your / partition.
You may have some core dumps. Look in /root, / , or /home for
any file beginning with 'core' They may be safely deleted.
It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in
/var/log  for huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming
huge install the anacron package. It will make the 'logrotate'
job run daily to compress and delete old logs. 
 

It's worth checking /tmp as well. Running tmpwatch (as root) will
clean up files in /tmp that are older than a time you specify e.g.
tmpwatch -vs 5 /tmp

will clean up any files older than five hours which aren't
currently open and print a list of deleted files.
Sir Robin

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- Robert Anton Wilson
Robin Turner
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Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



   

For future ref try kdirstat.  I run it now and then to get an idea
how the file system is shaping up.
I just ran it and noticed that OpenOffice is a little piggy.

Lee

 

I have gotten rid of some large files in /var/log, /tmp is empty and I 
still have my 5.9G of / used up.  Until I can track down where the 
excessively large file(s) is/are, I wanted to 'reallocate' some of my 
/home partition (currently using 14%) to give to / so I can boot into X 
(then KDE).

I understand from some research that parted can be used for this, but 
was unsure of the command(s) to essentially give 2G to the / partition.

Would anyone be able to help?

Thanks a lot.



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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/) - FIXED

2003-12-18 Thread Trey Sizemore
Trey Sizemore wrote:

Lee Wiggers wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:19:59 +0200
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Derek Jennings wrote:
  

On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:



Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to
  
start backup yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot
up say something tothe effect of (sorry not in front of the
machine now):


No room on / [0] expecting [2]

I haven't done anything new to the setup or installed/upgraded
  
anythingnew.


Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's just my
  
understanding),but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory,
I remembered that Istill have a couple of  .iso images taking up
some space (this is a 25GBdrive).  So just out of curiosity I
deleted them freeing up a couple ofgigs.  But when I restarted
the machine I got the same message aboutroot (/) being full then
taking me to the CLI login after some failedattempts to start X.


Just looking for some next steps and ultimately finding out why
  
thishappened.


Thanks.
  
If those iso images were on a different partition that could
explain why deleting them did not help.
There could be a few things using up your / partition.
You may have some core dumps. Look in /root, / , or /home for
any file beginning with 'core' They may be safely deleted.
It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in
/var/log  for huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming
huge install the anacron package. It will make the 'logrotate'
job run daily to compress and delete old logs. 
It's worth checking /tmp as well. Running tmpwatch (as root) will
clean up files in /tmp that are older than a time you specify e.g.
tmpwatch -vs 5 /tmp

will clean up any files older than five hours which aren't
currently open and print a list of deleted files.
Sir Robin

--
Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia.
- Robert Anton Wilson
Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



  
For future ref try kdirstat.  I run it now and then to get an idea
how the file system is shaping up.
I just ran it and noticed that OpenOffice is a little piggy.

Lee

 

I have gotten rid of some large files in /var/log, /tmp is empty and I 
still have my 5.9G of / used up.  Until I can track down where the 
excessively large file(s) is/are, I wanted to 'reallocate' some of my 
/home partition (currently using 14%) to give to / so I can boot into 
X (then KDE).

I understand from some research that parted can be used for this, but 
was unsure of the command(s) to essentially give 2G to the / partition.

Would anyone be able to help?

Thanks a lot.



After doing a 'find / -mount -size +50k -print' I found a /backup 
directory that contained the Mandrake 9.2 3-disk set.  I moved them to 
my home partition and now all seems well.  With the freely allocated 
space available, I am now able to start the X server.

Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions!

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-17 Thread robin
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to start back
up yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot up say something to
the effect of (sorry not in front of the machine now):
No room on / [0] expecting [2]

I haven't done anything new to the setup or installed/upgraded anything
new.
Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's just my understanding),
but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory, I remembered that I
still have a couple of  .iso images taking up some space (this is a 25GB
drive).  So just out of curiosity I deleted them freeing up a couple of
gigs.  But when I restarted the machine I got the same message about
root (/) being full then taking me to the CLI login after some failed
attempts to start X.
Just looking for some next steps and ultimately finding out why this
happened.
Thanks.


If those iso images were on a different partition that could explain why 
deleting them did not help.

There could be a few things using up your / partition.
You may have some core dumps. Look in /root, / , or /home for any file 
beginning with 'core' They may be safely deleted.

It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in /var/log  for 
huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming huge install the anacron 
package. It will make the 'logrotate' job run daily to compress and delete 
old logs. 
It's worth checking /tmp as well. Running tmpwatch (as root) will clean 
up files in /tmp that are older than a time you specify e.g.

tmpwatch -vs 5 /tmp

will clean up any files older than five hours which aren't currently 
open and print a list of deleted files.

Sir Robin

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- Robert Anton Wilson
Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-17 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:19:59 +0200
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  
 Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to
 start backup yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot
 up say something tothe effect of (sorry not in front of the
 machine now):
 No room on / [0] expecting [2]
 
 I haven't done anything new to the setup or installed/upgraded
 anythingnew.
 
 Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's just my
 understanding),but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory,
 I remembered that Istill have a couple of  .iso images taking up
 some space (this is a 25GBdrive).  So just out of curiosity I
 deleted them freeing up a couple ofgigs.  But when I restarted
 the machine I got the same message aboutroot (/) being full then
 taking me to the CLI login after some failedattempts to start X.
 
 Just looking for some next steps and ultimately finding out why
 thishappened.
 
 Thanks.
  
  
  If those iso images were on a different partition that could
  explain why deleting them did not help.
  
  There could be a few things using up your / partition.
  You may have some core dumps. Look in /root, / , or /home for
  any file beginning with 'core' They may be safely deleted.
  
  It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in
  /var/log  for huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming
  huge install the anacron package. It will make the 'logrotate'
  job run daily to compress and delete old logs. 
 
 It's worth checking /tmp as well. Running tmpwatch (as root) will
 clean up files in /tmp that are older than a time you specify e.g.
 
 tmpwatch -vs 5 /tmp
 
 will clean up any files older than five hours which aren't
 currently open and print a list of deleted files.
 
 Sir Robin
 
 -- 
 Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia.
 - Robert Anton Wilson
 
 Robin Turner
 IDMYO
 Bilkent Univeritesi
 Ankara 06533
 Turkey
 
 www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
 
 
 
 
For future ref try kdirstat.  I run it now and then to get an idea
how the file system is shaping up.

I just ran it and noticed that OpenOffice is a little piggy.

Lee

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-16 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to start back
 up yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot up say something to
 the effect of (sorry not in front of the machine now):

 No room on / [0] expecting [2]

 I haven't done anything new to the setup or installed/upgraded anything
 new.

 Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's just my understanding),
 but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory, I remembered that I
 still have a couple of  .iso images taking up some space (this is a 25GB
 drive).  So just out of curiosity I deleted them freeing up a couple of
 gigs.  But when I restarted the machine I got the same message about
 root (/) being full then taking me to the CLI login after some failed
 attempts to start X.

 Just looking for some next steps and ultimately finding out why this
 happened.

 Thanks.

If those iso images were on a different partition that could explain why 
deleting them did not help.

There could be a few things using up your / partition.
You may have some core dumps. Look in /root, / , or /home for any file 
beginning with 'core' They may be safely deleted.

It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in /var/log  for 
huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming huge install the anacron 
package. It will make the 'logrotate' job run daily to compress and delete 
old logs. 

derek

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-16 Thread cdrack
you can check the free space of youre partitions with
the df conmmand

so you can have an idea if there is a space problem

Cdrack.

--- Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Computer was working like a champ a few days ago. 
 Tried to start back 
 up yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot
 up say something to 
 the effect of (sorry not in front of the machine
 now):
 
 No room on / [0] expecting [2]
 
 I haven't done anything new to the setup or
 installed/upgraded anything 
 new.
 
 Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's
 just my understanding), 
 but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory, I
 remembered that I 
 still have a couple of  .iso images taking up some
 space (this is a 25GB 
 drive).  So just out of curiosity I deleted them
 freeing up a couple of 
 gigs.  But when I restarted the machine I got the
 same message about 
 root (/) being full then taking me to the CLI login
 after some failed 
 attempts to start X.
 
 Just looking for some next steps and ultimately
 finding out why this 
 happened.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-16 Thread Trey Sizemore
Derek Jennings wrote:

On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 

Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to start back
up yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot up say something to
the effect of (sorry not in front of the machine now):
No room on / [0] expecting [2]

I haven't done anything new to the setup or installed/upgraded anything
new.
Something I thought was weird (and I'm sure it's just my understanding),
but when I did an 'ls -al' on my /home directory, I remembered that I
still have a couple of  .iso images taking up some space (this is a 25GB
drive).  So just out of curiosity I deleted them freeing up a couple of
gigs.  But when I restarted the machine I got the same message about
root (/) being full then taking me to the CLI login after some failed
attempts to start X.
Just looking for some next steps and ultimately finding out why this
happened.
Thanks.
   

If those iso images were on a different partition that could explain why 
deleting them did not help.

There could be a few things using up your / partition.
You may have some core dumps. Look in /root, / , or /home for any file 
beginning with 'core' They may be safely deleted.

It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in /var/log  for 
huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming huge install the anacron 
package. It will make the 'logrotate' job run daily to compress and delete 
old logs. 

derek

 

It says that root (/) is full, and the iso images were in /home/trey so 
doesn't that count against root or am I having a conceptual error here.  
When I get back I'll try to isolate where the space hogs are using df 
and du again.  I think it was the du command that showed file sizes but 
if there was a directory I would no see the sizes of files within the 
directory.

It may be log files and I'll check into that as well.

Thanks.


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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-16 Thread Derek Jennings
Trey Sizemore wrote:

SNIP
It says that root (/) is full, and the iso images were in /home/trey 
so doesn't that count against root or am I having a conceptual error 
here.  When I get back I'll try to isolate where the space hogs are 
using df and du again.  I think it was the du command that showed file 
sizes but if there was a directory I would no see the sizes of files 
within the directory.

It may be log files and I'll check into that as well.

Thanks.


It would if you had only 1 linux partition.  But most people (and the 
default Mandrake install) use more than 1 HD partition. /home usually 
gets a partition to itself. That makes life easier when you come to 
upgrade your Linux.

derek


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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-16 Thread Derek Jennings
SNIP

It says that root (/) is full, and the iso images were in /home/trey 
so doesn't that count against root or am I having a conceptual error 
here.  When I get back I'll try to isolate where the space hogs are 
using df and du again.  I think it was the du command that showed file 
sizes but if there was a directory I would no see the sizes of files 
within the directory.

It may be log files and I'll check into that as well.

Thanks.
I should have added on my last post :-

If you install fsv (from contrib) it will show your file system as a 3 
dimensional map. It is easy to see where disc space is being used up. Of 
course it will not help you just at the moment because you do not have 
enough space to install fsv in ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Can't login to X due to no room on root (/)

2003-12-16 Thread E. Hines
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 08:35 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 4:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  Computer was working like a champ a few days ago.  Tried to start back
  up yesterday and saw one of the messages during boot up say something to
  the effect of (sorry not in front of the machine now):
 
  No room on / [0] expecting [2]
 

Derek wrote:
 It could also be your logs have reached a vast size. Look in /var/log  for
 huge log files.  To stop your log files becoming huge install the anacron
 package. It will make the 'logrotate' job run daily to compress and delete
 old logs.

 derek

This is how I solved my log problem back in the old days, with a really small 
HD.  As root, I edited my  /etc/logrotate.conf

I changed anything monthly to weekly
I changed anything weekly to daily

If it says rotate 4 I changed it to rotate 1

Who needs all that log info anyway--you ain't administering a server, are you?

e.


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