Re: [newbie] Crazy Mouse
snip Don't get me wrong, I am certainly sorry you are also having troubles. But it is reassuring that I am at least not the only one who IS having problems. Hope you get yours fixed, Wes G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, I wouldn't feel bad for me, it hasn't done that in a while so I'm not too troubled by it. I just thought I'd throw in my stories about my mouse and see if it helped you at all. I noticed that someone suggested earlier that you should update X-Free to a higher version and see if that helps. Have you done so yet and did it help you out? Ivan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crazy Mouse
I thought this may be an issue with Intellimouse Optical Mice (Mouses?), but you mentioned that it happened with your Logitech mouse also. I own an Intellimouse Explorer which also uses an optical eye. I've seen it display the same behaviors that you've mentioned (including the one on the Linux-Mandrake installation screen.) Basically how I'd describe it is that it looks like someone slides the mouse across the desk as fast as possible, somehow pressing the right mouse button once for ever 5 pixels moved. Sometimes the mouse works after that, sometimes the mouse doesn't work at all after that, sometimes the whole system hangs. Mine also likes to shoot to the lower left corner of the desktop a lot. Ok, this was of no help to me but may help you. Assuming you are using Xfree4.x, look in /etc/x11/xfreeconfig-4 under the mouse area. It is either called PS/2, IMPS/2 (Intellimouse?), ExplorerPS/2 (Intellimouse Explorer?), or Auto. Mine is screwy as IMPS/2 but doesn't work at all on the others. Therefore, and since I've stripped my system to just video/mouse/keyboard and it still does this tells me to investigate my bios settings (or an update to the bios) or perhaps a motherboard driver update (are there such things?). Also this didn't help me but it is specific to your mouse so it might be just what you need. Unfortunately I lost the messages, but you can search google groups (from google.com) in the newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandrake for the subject MS Intellimouse Explorer which told of a couple of specific lines to change/add in XF86Config-4 for this mouse. And I _believe_ it referenced a web site dealing with it. The procedure didn't work for me (not exactly the same mouse, it is one version older and at least one model down on the ladder) but hopefully it can help you. I have some good news and some bad news about this though. The good news for us Linux fans is that it's not a Linux or X-Windows problem. I've seen my mouse display this behavior far worse on Windoze 95 and Windoze 98 SE. Strange. With me both mouse and keyboard perform flawlessly in Win98(se?). But of course that's like getting a beautiful date for the prom... ...who happens to be your sister. GRIN The bad news is that I haven't completely determined what causes this problem. It doesn't happen very often, but it's very annoying when it does. Is constant in Mandrake Linux for me. [My apologies to M$ haters for mentioning M$ and their products so much in this post. It pains me to do so. I received my M$ mice as gifts and ended up using them for that reason.] Hey, I guess I am among the M$ operating system haters (well, dislikers), but I really like my MS Intellimouse Optical and MS Internet Keyboard, which I got as a package deal on sale at Sam's Club, and it even gets an additional $10 rebate. Computer Shopper rated this mouse well when it came out ( was $54.95!). They just said that the newest Intellimouse (optical, cordless, etc.) was the best mouse out there bar none. BTW, I used to like their Flight Simulator about nine years ago! 1. At first I thought it was possible that my mouse pad was confusing the optical sensor. Yes I know how silly that sounds, but you have to realize that this is a M$ product. ;) I changed mousepads. The mouse still acted up and I determined that my mousepad was not the culprit. I read that glass or really shiny white paper could cause problems. Mine works on about anything including my palm and pants leg. Also, I noticed it works about 1/4 inch off of the surface as well. Neat I suppose. Just wish I could turn off the taillight on it but I am becomming used to it. 2. I then considered that my Intellimouse Explorer was the culprit. I thought maybe I had received a faulty one or that a wire inside was broken. Plugging my old Intellimouse (and updating the settings), I found that the old Intellimouse (the kind with a ball and wheel) displayed the same behavior. I returned to using the optical one. This lead me to believe that my optical mouse was no more glitchy than my non-optical mouse. I went through the same steps, only my replacement IS my intellimouse. And I think I'll be keeping it if I can straighten things out. It's nice to have five buttons, one wheel, and no ball. I think the extra buttons on the side might be mappable. I definately read that I can map other functions to the 10 extra keys on the MS Internet keyboard in Mandrake Linux. 3. I considered that my PS/2 mouse port had issues. I was using Windoze 95 at the time. I reformatted my hard drive and installed Windoze 98 SE (which I also received as a gift). Windoze 95 did not have USB support. I plugged my optical mouse into the USB port and set it up properly. After a period of time, I found that the mouse displayed the same erratic behavior on
Re: [newbie] Crazy Mouse
Hi, I am using an intellimouse optical on LM8.1 (on a laptop). The mouse works beautifully. The only difference that I see between our free86config-4 files is that my mouse is pointed to /dev/mouse. Have you tried that? hth, Bill W. On Sunday 16 December 2001 12:17, you wrote: Hello, I have installed Mandrake Linux 8.1 (Powerpack) on my system. I have a problem with my mouse. When I try to move the cursor it goes crazy. It likes to go to the lower left of the screen but it may go anywhere... So fast it almost seems to just appear there. Along the way it may open menus, move my menu bar from along the bottom of the screen to the left side. (How do I put it back along the bottom - in Gnome desktop?) My mouse is a MS Intellimouse Optical. I am using (well, trying to 8-( ) Xfree86 4.0 so I am looking at xfree86config-4, correct? It said: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse or /dev/mouse1 or something (I changed it to /dev/psaux) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 and the cordmiddle option is # so it isn't activated. I have tried various things including reinstalling approximately 15 times now. Nothing changes. I started out with a logitech 2 button mouse and some keyboard. Was going crazy all over the screen. Tried reinstalling. Nope. Got the wife to go get a different mouse. She came home with the intellimouse packaged with the MS Internet Keyboard. Still the same behavior. Exactly the same. Goes crazy opens menus moved my task bar to the left crazy. At one point I got to the mouse screen where I roll the mouse wheel to activate. I did, it worked for up down push wheel push left button push right button. Movement worked. Ok, complete install still crazy. Two mice two keyboards still crazy. Crazy. Surely I'm not the only one in existance that can't get mouse to stop being crazy. What do I need to do that it can't figure out by itself? Is crazy I say! Must do in Gnome, KDE locks up at screen. Where blinking icon loading window manager it stops blinking locked up. That is another problem always in every installation. Will worry about that later, got option #2 Gnome to work. Mouse crazy in login and Gnome. Crazy. Help. Trying to use this keyboard mouse emulation is crazy too, will start moving and stop but pointer keeps to edge of screen then I have to remember what way I was moving and hit that key again and then it stops trying to move that way and I can move back. Sometimes different keys act this way. Noticed I was trying to type in my user password and it wasn't working. Went back to input user name to test and sure enough... All my input was in caps, the #'s were in @#!@%!! My shift key was stuck so I pressed them and retyped user, password fine. Is there a conflict between my mouse and keyboard? Would explain multiple keyboards/mice exhibiting the same problem? According to the colors on the plugs/ports and also the labeling I've got them plugged into the correct ps2 ports. And they work fine in Windows98 (as if that's supposed to be any colsolation GRIN). I have the bios configured for Plug Play OS OFF like the installation guide that came with ML8.1PP said to. Help, Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stuck in Windows where my mouse is a mouse and my keyboard is a keyboard and they both work fine. 8-( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crazy Mouse
Hello, On the update issue...yes..instead of doing an install...click the update box..and then don't install anything(unless there's something else on there you want). For me,I always choose the expert (altho I'm FAR from that) mode. both of these mice should install tho... On your Nvidia card,if you'll look on the Linux-Mandrake site..under errata you'll find an issue with the Nvidia cards. Something about 8.1 only loading the binary version of the driver? If my memeory is correct here, they instruct us to log in as root, then to a terminal,then enter the command depmod -a Then reboot..but PLEASE..read from the site..don't take my word..it is there tho. :-) So I can act like I'm reinstalling but type update when it gives me that option? I thought that was just for going from one # to another (7.2 to 8.1 for example). Hi, I am using an intellimouse optical on LM8.1 (on a laptop). The mouse works beautifully. The only difference that I see between our free86config-4 files is that my mouse is pointed to /dev/mouse. Have you tried that? Yes. It actually seems to return itself that way periodically. Going as crazy as my mouse. I wonder if it has something to do with my keyboard which is also giving me fits. Don't seem to have an IRQ conflict, although my sound only works for a bit and then freezes the system. (I just learned this even applies to playing an mp3 file from my windows partition.) Thanks for trying everyone. Still hoping to solve this because the wife and I both like what we can see so far. Waiting on the mouse to start working so I can tackle the nVidia driver install and see some of the 3d apps/games. Later, Wes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crazy Mouse
snip I have a mouse with IMPS/2. Nothing else seems to work at all. As for a suggestion for a fix...well if it was me,and everything else worked ok...I'd try an update (from the cd's,assuming(dangerous) you installed that way) and this time give the mouse install a few minutes to get its head together..lol. So I can act like I'm reinstalling but type update when it gives me that option? I thought that was just for going from one # to another (7.2 to 8.1 for example). snip Just thought I best jump in here and let you know that using update to go from one version to a newer version is not a good idea. Unless, you place all of your important files on a partition such as /goodstuff or what ever you want to call it, then when you upgrade on a new version you pick the expert install and when it goes into the diskdrake mod and has your partitions showing you can set them all up as named before but reformat everything but /goodstuff. This will save the good stuff but install all of the files and their libraries without leaving any of the older libraries behind. That can sometimes cause problems. This is not a sure fire guaranteed method, cause some of the good stuff may be dependent on libraries you no longer have. Well, that's the way I understand things as of today, if anyone on the list want's to correct me or clarify or add to what I have here, just jump right in, HTH. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
