Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor I know. I know. I goofed up royally. I have learned to never install another OS when I'm very tired. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 u are in control Roman. and resistance is futiile :) If there was a contest for the amount of installs and partitioning done to a hard drive, I think I would win it hands down. Live and learn - I say. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor I know. I know. I goofed up royally. I have learned to never install another OS when I'm very tired. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 u are in control Roman. and resistance is futiile :) If there was a contest for the amount of installs and partitioning done to a hard drive, I think I would win it hands down. Live and learn - I say. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 live and learn and love
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator wrote: If there was a contest for the amount of installs and partitioning done to a hard drive, I think I would win it hands down. Live and learn - I say. Yeron - hows about #35!!! Cheers -- ICQ#: 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
RE: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of patrick Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive? Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor I know. I know. I goofed up royally. I have learned to never install another OS when I'm very tired. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 u are in control Roman. and resistance is futiile :) If there was a contest for the amount of installs and partitioning done to a hard drive, I think I would win it hands down. Live and learn - I say. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 live and learn and love True...very true. Peace. Roman
RE: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Rye Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive? Romanator wrote: If there was a contest for the amount of installs and partitioning done to a hard drive, I think I would win it hands down. Live and learn - I say. Yeron - hows about #35!!! Cheers -- ICQ#: 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) I got 50!! Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Well, you can install Linxu on any partition, it requires swap and boot and root partitions. LILO and GRUB(that's what these guys call) can boot Windows/Linux. Be careful, backup your harddrive, before installing. You may face some problem with LILO/GRUB after installation, like me :- raj Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor I know. I know. I goofed up royally. I have learned to never install another OS when I'm very tired. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 u are in control Roman. and resistance is futiile :) If there was a contest for the amount of installs and partitioning done to a hard drive, I think I would win it hands down. Live and learn - I say. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Barry Premeaux wrote: patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. The boxed version has kde 1.99 from what I have been hearing. The CDR version I got from www.lsl.com has KDE2.0 with Koffice. The kernel is 2.2.17-21mdk. Barry :-) i think its amazing that a distro would take out or make next to impossible the xscreensaver. xscreen saver was the ONE thing that worked so well. xscreensaver was the one thing that everybody on this list agreed with. it seems mandrake needs to reevalutate and possible come out quickly with version 7.3 mandrake. every body makes mistakes. unfortunately mandreak is is the middle of a big one. that of course if my opinion. the screen shots of kde 2 and konquerer are exquisite. istn it shocking as linux becomes ever more powerful and beautiful to look at mandrake seem to be going in the wrong direction.
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor I know. I know. I goofed up royally. I have learned to never install another OS when I'm very tired. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. Mandrake 7.2 has kde 2.0 using kernel 2.2-17 -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Jon Dowd wrote: On Saturday 11 November 2000 18:29, patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. Without mentioning shame... I'll say yes, yes and no. Jon Dowd Thanks Jon. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
sobe wrote: - Original Message - From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive? Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? install windows2k first on its own partition. Assumeinging you have some space not yet partitioned for mandrake and let mandrake partion it for you it will install grub and you should be able at boot up determine which oss you want running I have lots of space. I think I'll wait for System Commander to arrive. One thing that I have learned is that if you resize nad/or move, your partition to different areas of your drive, the partition table will get screwed up. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:47:45 -0500, Romanator wrote: I have lots of space. I think I'll wait for System Commander to arrive. PowerBoot runs circles around System Commander - I use it with Win2K and Linux. You can try it at www.bmtmicro.com - I suggest partitioning with Linux vs their FDisk program. Then install PowerBoot. Profiles are great, once you get the nack of the text user interface. Hide and unhide based on your menu choice w/o a reboot! Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator wrote: Jon Dowd wrote: On Saturday 11 November 2000 18:29, patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. Without mentioning shame... I'll say yes, yes and no. Jon Dowd Thanks Jon. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame shame shame on me :)
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator wrote: patrick wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor I know. I know. I goofed up royally. I have learned to never install another OS when I'm very tired. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 u are in control Roman. and resistance is futiile :)
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Erylon Hines wrote: On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, you wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Of course, I have Linux installed on separate partitons--I have /,/home,/usr,/var,/tmp--all seperate, plus my NT partition, on a single 9 Gig scsi drive. I don't have NT as NTFS, by the way, I'm using FAT for my NT partition, though I understand the newer distros can read NTFS, but I also have W98 on my network, so FAT is the choice for file sharing. I use the NT Loader as my bootloader, and have Linux as the default boot system. How this is done is fairly well documented on several websites--I saw one recently on a site with the unlikely name of "The Little White Dog" that explained how to use the Win 2000 loader to start Linux, but the instructions for NT are exactly the same. The only caution is that NT4 must be installed first (kinda like all Windoze). I have installed WINT4. Next, is Linux 7.2 and/or Red Hat 7 Thanks for responding. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Erylon Hines wrote: install windows2k first on its own partition. Assumeinging you have some space not yet partitioned for mandrake and let mandrake partion it for you it will install grub and you should be able at boot up determine which oss you want running Are you actually doing this?? I've heard through the grapevine that Win2000 has some serious issues if it doesn't have control of the mbr. I know that NT4 sometimes refuses to boot if its bootloader isn't the controller (I've never got Lilo to successfully boot NT, but NT boots Lilo with no problem). I am using NT4 SP5. I have received an upgrade to Y2K but I'm very leary about installing it. And, there is an issue with Win2000 and control of the mbr. I'll have to check this out. Next stop - Linux. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator... btw, I have just installed RedHat 7.0, and it went quite well...one minus - it does not include the new kernal... nothing against Mandrake, you understand ;-) I like it very much, and still run 7.0 on one of my "swap" drives... (i assume your reference to Linux 7.2 was Mandrake 7.2...) rbh Linux User 193554 - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive? Erylon Hines wrote: On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, you wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Of course, I have Linux installed on separate partitons--I have /,/home,/usr,/var,/tmp--all seperate, plus my NT partition, on a single 9 Gig scsi drive. I don't have NT as NTFS, by the way, I'm using FAT for my NT partition, though I understand the newer distros can read NTFS, but I also have W98 on my network, so FAT is the choice for file sharing. I use the NT Loader as my bootloader, and have Linux as the default boot system. How this is done is fairly well documented on several websites--I saw one recently on a site with the unlikely name of "The Little White Dog" that explained how to use the Win 2000 loader to start Linux, but the instructions for NT are exactly the same. The only caution is that NT4 must be installed first (kinda like all Windoze). I have installed WINT4. Next, is Linux 7.2 and/or Red Hat 7 Thanks for responding. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
On Saturday 11 November 2000 16:32, Romanator wrote: snip Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Hello Roman, The boot loader that comes with Mandrake 7.2 is by far the best I've used. I have 3 operating systems on this computer and at boot time I can choose which one I want to start. I have tried Partition Magic, System Commander, Red Hat's version of LILO and launching Linux from DOS with loadlin. Not only will the boot loader that comes with Mandrake 7.2 acknowledge the second drive, it will (if needed) treat that second drive as though it is "Drive C:" On this computer I have WIndows ME, Mandrake 7.2 and MS-DOS 6.22. I can start any one of those three at boot time. -- Jon Dowd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Technician 541 482-TECH (8324) InfoStructure IVO http://www.mind.net
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Use the bootloader that comes with Mandrake, GRUB it think it's called. I've tried several bootloaders in my time ranging from, by hand (a real pain to boot a system by hand believe me, flip switches then press buttons, repeat for about fifteen minuets), punch card with HASP, tape, BOOT (IBM 360), Boot Magic, System Commander, LILO and several others you probably haven't heard of. GRUB comes out as the best of the bunch. Now for booting Linux from Windows, go with loadlin. I run the Promise Ultra ATA 66 card. My hard drives are on the tertiary controller. The primary and secondary controllers are on the normal motherboard (mine is max ATA 2), tertiary and quartinary controllers are currently on add-in boards. I have no drives on my primary controller, a CD burner on my secondary controller and a Western Digital 205AA (20GB ATA 4) drive as master with a Western Digital AC32200L (3GB ATA 2) as slave on my tertiary controller, the quartinary controller is empty currently. The 205AA has my Windoze, RH and Mandrake partitions with one open partition and one swap partition, the WD32200L has my three swap partitions; two are used by RH and ML, one is unused, and an small (2.5 GB) open partition on it. So far everything except RH works fine and I'm just taking a break from fixing the RH install now. Now, with NT, I do believe you'll have to use the NT boot program or NT has a hissy fit and decides it won't work. Typical of products from a company owned by someone who has a hissy fit when he can't have his own way. 8=) Or when he can't buy his own way. I don't know about most people, but I have three versions of Linux. I have Red Hat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 in what I call the mutable versions. Both these boot up with GRUB just fine from my hard disk and each is in it's own partition on a hard disk that it shares with Windoze. Then I have Demolinux which is an inmutable version. What do I mean by that? Well, it's a runable Linux system on a CD-ROM disk. If you "Anchor" it to your Windoze partition, you can save your settings from run to run, compile programs to work with it (Demolinux is based on Debian Linux) and pretty much do what you want with it. Drawbacks are that it is _slow_ in comparison to a full install and that if anything happens to your Windoze partition you can lose all your work. Just remember, read everything and YMMV. James. - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive? Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 shame on u roman. shame shame shame rolling on the floor
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not.
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
On Saturday 11 November 2000 18:29, patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. Without mentioning shame... I'll say yes, yes and no. Jon Dowd
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Well, the download version has a hacked version of 2.4 but i can't tell if it's test9 or earlier. On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, you wrote: On Saturday 11 November 2000 18:29, patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. Without mentioning shame... I'll say yes, yes and no. Jon Dowd -- Eddie Torres www.veloct.net
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
Romanator, FYI, I have Win95B, Mandrake7.1, Red Hat6.0, 6.2 each on a separate bootable harddisk. At 07:32 PM 11-11-2000 -0500, you wrote: Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition?
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
patrick wrote: sorry i dont know how to start a new thread but does mandrrake 7.2 have kde 2.0 and koffice and kernal 2.4 or not. The boxed version has kde 1.99 from what I have been hearing. The CDR version I got from www.lsl.com has KDE2.0 with Koffice. The kernel is 2.2.17-21mdk. Barry :-)
Re: [newbie] Do you have Linux installed on separate partition or drive?
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, you wrote: Hi everybody, For specific reasons beyond my control, I still require Windows NT for certain applications. However, I prefer to work in a Linux environment. Do most people have Linux installed on a separate drive or partition? Is there a Linux boot loader that will acknowledge the second drive? Any thoughts? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Of course, I have Linux installed on separate partitons--I have /,/home,/usr,/var,/tmp--all seperate, plus my NT partition, on a single 9 Gig scsi drive. I don't have NT as NTFS, by the way, I'm using FAT for my NT partition, though I understand the newer distros can read NTFS, but I also have W98 on my network, so FAT is the choice for file sharing. I use the NT Loader as my bootloader, and have Linux as the default boot system. How this is done is fairly well documented on several websites--I saw one recently on a site with the unlikely name of "The Little White Dog" that explained how to use the Win 2000 loader to start Linux, but the instructions for NT are exactly the same. The only caution is that NT4 must be installed first (kinda like all Windoze).
