Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:33, JoeHill wrote: > On 10 Jul 2003 14:52:42 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > are at least 50-80 ft... > > but once you *get* the Koala, I've heard they are a hot property, > IYKWIM. Yeh so stephen told me but eucyptilis ?? trees are hard to climb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On 10 Jul 2003 22:32:55 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They're too furry and very hard to shave. I don't like fur, and they're > impatient when you start spreading on the shaving gel. > Don't diss fur my friend, we furry creatures are nice. /The swedish furry polarbear Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Shaving Koala's Stephen? Sure you don't want to move this to an X-Rated site? LOL! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:33, JoeHill wrote: > On 10 Jul 2003 14:52:42 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > are at least 50-80 ft... > > but once you *get* the Koala, I've heard they are a hot property, > IYKWIM. They're too furry and very hard to shave. I don't like fur, and they're impatient when you start spreading on the shaving gel. -- Thu Jul 10 22:30:00 EST 2003 22:30:00 up 4 days, 2 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * History repeats itself -- the first time as a tragi-comedy, the second time as bedroom farce. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On 10 Jul 2003 14:52:42 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > are at least 50-80 ft... but once you *get* the Koala, I've heard they are a hot property, IYKWIM. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 01:32:23 up 15 days, 7:13, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:30, Aron Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 12:22, JoeHill wrote: > > On 09 Jul 2003 12:15:22 -0700 > > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > > Don't beleve it Koalas live in trees > > > > What, you can't climb trees? > Ain't worth the trouble. Even a small gum tree ain't worth the climb - too much work, too much trouble. Older gums are even worse. Now if the damn koalas turned around and started to like pine trees, that would be a different story. Small gums, especially around the rocky areas, are at least 50-80 ft... -- Thu Jul 10 14:49:59 EST 2003 14:49:59 up 3 days, 16:22, 3 users, load average: 0.32, 0.12, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * YOU HAVE PERHAPS HEARD THE PHRASE THAT HELL IS OTHER PEOPLE? "Yes. Yes, of course." Death nodded. IN TIME, he said, YOU WILL LEARN THAT IT IS WRONG. (Small Gods) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On 09 Jul 2003 12:15:22 -0700 Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Don't beleve it Koalas live in trees What, you can't climb trees? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 15:22:23 up 14 days, 21:03, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 11:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Tuesday 08 July 2003 05:24 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > > As for sheep: "Ahh, ***, where the men are men, and the sheep are > > > nervous", where *** is from the set [Australia, Scotland, Montana]. > > > > Aussies generally say that the NZ'ers are the ones that make the sheep > > nervous...over here, well, it's probably 'roos and koalas... > > Heh. You ALL are making me nervous! Don't beleve it Koalas live in trees 'Roos move too fast it's sheep buddy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tuesday 08 July 2003 05:24 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > As for sheep: "Ahh, ***, where the men are men, and the sheep are > > nervous", where *** is from the set [Australia, Scotland, Montana]. > > Aussies generally say that the NZ'ers are the ones that make the sheep > nervous...over here, well, it's probably 'roos and koalas... Heh. You ALL are making me nervous! -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2003 03:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > >>> snip > > > > IN REALITY; doesn't your ISP give you space to use along with your > > normal account...?? Y'all ain't got Thacker & Grigsby there, do ya? > > Stephen: > Thacker Is that the one of Thacker, Packer and McKinney fame? Dunno - but the family I was married into (Stewarts) were related to the Thackers AND the Grigsby's - of Knott County, KY; Thacker and Grigsby run the county's Telco (and some) - was just wondering if they expanded their horizon beyond Knott County yet...as I do know they've got cable and ADSL... > Incidentally, I thought Australians used dogs for blankets, as in Three Dog > Night. Dog we got is way to small to use as a blanket - a pillow, maybe, or a blanket for a very very small human - without arms'n'legs - or torso... > As for sheep: "Ahh, ***, where the men are men, and the sheep are > nervous", where *** is from the set [Australia, Scotland, Montana]. Aussies generally say that the NZ'ers are the ones that make the sheep nervous...over here, well, it's probably 'roos and koalas... -- Wed Jul 9 07:20:00 EST 2003 07:20:00 up 2 days, 8:52, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.26, 0.32 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Monday 07 July 2003 03:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > IN REALITY; doesn't your ISP give you space to use along with your > normal account...?? Y'all ain't got Thacker & Grigsby there, do ya? Nah, its Charter Communications and I'll have to check. :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Monday 07 July 2003 03:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > >>> snip > > IN REALITY; doesn't your ISP give you space to use along with your > normal account...?? Y'all ain't got Thacker & Grigsby there, do ya? Stephen: Thacker Is that the one of Thacker, Packer and McKinney fame? Incidentally, I thought Australians used dogs for blankets, as in Three Dog Night. As for sheep: "Ahh, ***, where the men are men, and the sheep are nervous", where *** is from the set [Australia, Scotland, Montana]. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Monday 07 July 2003 02:23 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" > > time! ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) > > I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. > ;) > > --LX Heh. Wimp. Real men use push mowers (hand powered) or super-sharp machetes.. (just kidding!) Seriously, my yard is 176x200, and we just bought the 5.69 acre lot next to us, with a flat about that same size. I keep telling my wife that if she doesn't buy me a riding lawnmower soon, I'm gonna let *her* cut it. :-) See ya! -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 15:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! > ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) When I lived in Hindman, I let a mate keep goats on the property. This resolved two issues - 1.) Where he could keep his goats, and 2.) How to keep the grass on the sides of the holler manageable. Cost to me: ZERO ...and guess how much it cost me to plow my 5 acres of bottom in the holler? ZERO. Gave a mate a complete system and secured my plowing for two years (any time I wanted it done). ...and guess how much it cost to clear off all the poplars, walnuts, pines, birches, oaks and a few cherry trees? ZERO. The mill came and cut'em up, and I got half the profits. HA (grin) Now I didn't mind getting out once in a while with a scythe to get some exercise, but that was by choice, mate. Either to stretch a few muscles or to clear a bad hangover. Meanwhile, back on the topic of pictures and websites - why not get something free like the MSN community and post yer piccies up there Ron? -- Mon Jul 7 21:50:00 EST 2003 21:50:00 up 23:22, 3 users, load average: 0.90, 0.60, 0.44 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "That's where I saw the Leprchaun. He tells me to burn things!" --Ralph Wiggum This Little Wiggy (Episode 5F13) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 03:36, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. > > > > > ;) > > > > I thought that you guys used sheep. > > > > Not for that. > > you guys must be clampers then > > > > > > > > > -- http://www.sonnet.com/eqdir/clmpmain.html > > big I leave it to you to figure out the motto large amts of booze helps Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 03:36, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. > > > > ;) > > > I thought that you guys used sheep. > > Not for that. > you guys must be clampers then > > > > > > -- http://www.sonnet.com/eqdir/clmpmain.html > big -- "CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have found a home page for that most august, studious and sober historical organization, E Clampus Vitus. This WEB presence is an effort to represent that organization in the dignified, academically oriented and self sacrificing manner in which it and all its members conduct themselves." Hmmm. Seems cool enoughfrom what I'm reading, anyway. B-) --LX °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:23, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 02:51, Aron Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:23, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > > > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > > > > > > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! > > > > ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) > > > > > > I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. > > > ;) > > I thought that you guys used sheep. > > > > > > Not for that. you guys must be clampers then > > > -- http://www.sonnet.com/eqdir/clmpmain.html big Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 02:51, Aron Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:23, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > > > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > > > > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! > > > ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) > > > > I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. > > ;) > I thought that you guys used sheep. > > Not for that. --LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:23, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! > > ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) > > I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. > ;) I thought that you guys used sheep. > > --LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! > ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) I wonder if your yard is bigger than mine. I've got a riding lawnmower. ;) --LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 14:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 06 July 2003 04:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats > > > what I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who > > > wants any! :-) > > > > What - ya ain't got a site to stick'em up at mate? > > Nah, never got around to it - always been on my list of things "to do". :-) Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) -- Mon Jul 7 14:35:01 EST 2003 14:35:01 up 16:07, 3 users, load average: 0.80, 0.35, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Dentist, n.: A Prestidigitator who, putting metal in one's mouth, pulls coins out of one's pockets. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sunday 06 July 2003 10:02 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Darklord: > Yes, I would like to see some pictures. Shoes optional. I'll send'em offlist. Glad its not "shirt and shores required!". :-) > What about the noise level? > A. DC-9 rear row window seat during takeoff. > B. Vacuum cleaner. > C. SheThatIs when you've done it again. > D. Room A/C. > E. Ancient Miniscribe HD. (Light? I don't need no stinking light.) > F. Whisper quiet. > > -- cmg Yeah, its loud. :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sunday 06 July 2003 04:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats > > what I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who > > wants any! :-) > > What - ya ain't got a site to stick'em up at mate? Nah, never got around to it - always been on my list of things "to do". :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats what > I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who wants > any! :-) What - ya ain't got a site to stick'em up at mate? -- Mon Jul 7 06:45:01 EST 2003 06:45:01 up 8:17, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Old age is the harbor of all ills. -- Bion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:56, Lanman wrote: > They get winter down there? Next thing you'll be telling us is that they have giant > mice with large tails, hopping around on 2 legs! > > Grin! Grin! > > Lanman (g)then I won't tell ya dot mon! -- Mon Jul 7 06:45:01 EST 2003 06:45:01 up 8:17, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Old age is the harbor of all ills. -- Bion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sunday 06 July 2003 10:07 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 06 July 2003 10:53 am, Lanman wrote: > > Stephen; FYI,...Wallabees are shoes in Canada, not animals. About cooling > > your case, HP started fabricating plenums ( square or rectangular tubes > > made of plastic or metal that usually act as a path for air to travel > > -ie; in air conditioning systems in large buildings) for many of their > > newer cases. These plenums are hard-mounted inside the case and extend > > from just above the CPU to the back of the case where they expel warm air > > through a grill. Most of them have an additional fan mounted inside, and > > attached where the plenum meets the back of the case. These fans help the > > CPU fan by sucking air out of the case as the CPU fan picks up the warm > > air from the CPU. I thought you might want to know in case you have some > > materials on-site that you can use to duplicatre this. If you get a > > chance to look inside an HP pavilion desktop PC, you should see what I'm > > talking about. > > > > Hope the info helps (?) > > > > Lanman > > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats > what I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who > wants any! :-) Ron, send me the pics. I have seen these fan systems but can not visualize how they fit on the CPU. Tnx. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 06 July 2003 10:53 am, Lanman wrote: > > Stephen; FYI,...Wallabees are shoes in Canada, not animals. About cooling > > your case, HP started fabricating plenums ( square or rectangular tubes > > made of plastic or metal that usually act as a path for air to travel -ie; > > in air conditioning systems in large buildings) for many of their newer > > cases. These plenums are hard-mounted inside the case and extend from just > > above the CPU to the back of the case where they expel warm air through a > > grill. Most of them have an additional fan mounted inside, and attached > > where the plenum meets the back of the case. These fans help the CPU fan by > > sucking air out of the case as the CPU fan picks up the warm air from the > > CPU. I thought you might want to know in case you have some materials > > on-site that you can use to duplicatre this. If you get a chance to look > > inside an HP pavilion desktop PC, you should see what I'm talking about. > > > > Hope the info helps (?) A few years ago you could get a Peitre junction type of heatsink for your CPU They worked Too Good (Condensing moisture out of the air around your CPU. Don't know if they are still around,if they are HSC electronics might have them. http://www.halted.com/ If its weird they probaly have it > > > > Lanman > > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats what > I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who wants > any! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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> They get winter down there? Hah! The natives in southern california say there's winter here, too! The only seasons i can make out are big surf and small surf... Actually, in Pasadena we do get a summer season: it's much warmer than Spring (which is the other 9 months of the year). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Want Pics! Please send! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/6/2003 at 11:07 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: >On Sunday 06 July 2003 10:53 am, Lanman wrote: >> Stephen; FYI,...Wallabees are shoes in Canada, not animals. About cooling >> your case, HP started fabricating plenums ( square or rectangular tubes >> made of plastic or metal that usually act as a path for air to travel >-ie; >> in air conditioning systems in large buildings) for many of their newer >> cases. These plenums are hard-mounted inside the case and extend from >just >> above the CPU to the back of the case where they expel warm air through a >> grill. Most of them have an additional fan mounted inside, and attached >> where the plenum meets the back of the case. These fans help the CPU fan >by >> sucking air out of the case as the CPU fan picks up the warm air from the >> CPU. I thought you might want to know in case you have some materials >> on-site that you can use to duplicatre this. If you get a chance to look >> inside an HP pavilion desktop PC, you should see what I'm talking about. >> >> Hope the info helps (?) >> >> Lanman > >Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats >what >I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who wants >any! :-) > >-- > > /\ >Dark> \/ > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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They get winter down there? Next thing you'll be telling us is that they have giant mice with large tails, hopping around on 2 legs! Grin! Grin! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/6/2003 at 9:28 AM N. B. Day wrote: >On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:14, Stephen Kuhn wrote: >> Just had to share these stats with y'all; purchased a new CPU fan today >> - a Thermaltake Volcano 7 - so that coupled with the 120mm fan I mounted >> just above where the CPU sits - blowing directly down onto the CPU >> assembly (I cut a hole in the case side and mounted the fan outside of >> the case - it's an industrial 400 cubic metres per hour model) gives me >> the following nice stats: >> - >> CPU Fan: 3154 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) >> SYS Temp: +30.5°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) >> CPU Temp: +29.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) >> SBr Temp: +20.7°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) >> hddtemp /dev/hda: ST340016A: 29°C >> hddtemp /dev/hdb: ST340824A: 32°C >> - > > > >You might remind the world that it's WINTER in the southern hemisphere! >What's the ambient temperature? I don't recall anyone having central >heating in NSW; they just wear a sheep or two in the winter. > >> Who says I don't have a life? >-- >N. B. Day > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sunday 06 July 2003 10:53 am, Lanman wrote: > Stephen; FYI,...Wallabees are shoes in Canada, not animals. About cooling > your case, HP started fabricating plenums ( square or rectangular tubes > made of plastic or metal that usually act as a path for air to travel -ie; > in air conditioning systems in large buildings) for many of their newer > cases. These plenums are hard-mounted inside the case and extend from just > above the CPU to the back of the case where they expel warm air through a > grill. Most of them have an additional fan mounted inside, and attached > where the plenum meets the back of the case. These fans help the CPU fan by > sucking air out of the case as the CPU fan picks up the warm air from the > CPU. I thought you might want to know in case you have some materials > on-site that you can use to duplicatre this. If you get a chance to look > inside an HP pavilion desktop PC, you should see what I'm talking about. > > Hope the info helps (?) > > Lanman Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats what I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who wants any! :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Sunday 06 July 2003 09:14 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Just had to share these stats with y'all; purchased a new CPU fan today > - a Thermaltake Volcano 7 - so that coupled with the 120mm fan I mounted > just above where the CPU sits - blowing directly down onto the CPU > assembly (I cut a hole in the case side and mounted the fan outside of > the case - it's an industrial 400 cubic metres per hour model) gives me > the following nice stats: > - > CPU Fan: 3154 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) > SYS Temp: +30.5°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) > CPU Temp: +29.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) > SBr Temp: +20.7°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) > hddtemp /dev/hda: ST340016A: 29°C > hddtemp /dev/hdb: ST340824A: 32°C > - > > Pictures of the case/mod will be posted after I'm done getting the > images down to a manageable size...in a few hours I reckon...(g) > > http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/casemod/ > > Who says I don't have a life? I told ya all! I use the Thermal Take Volcano (6000 rpm) and it dropped my CPU temp in a desktop case (along with my vent mod) from 50-55C to 34-38C Pics for anyone who wants to see how drastic I got :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
Stephen; FYI,...Wallabees are shoes in Canada, not animals. About cooling your case, HP started fabricating plenums ( square or rectangular tubes made of plastic or metal that usually act as a path for air to travel -ie; in air conditioning systems in large buildings) for many of their newer cases. These plenums are hard-mounted inside the case and extend from just above the CPU to the back of the case where they expel warm air through a grill. Most of them have an additional fan mounted inside, and attached where the plenum meets the back of the case. These fans help the CPU fan by sucking air out of the case as the CPU fan picks up the warm air from the CPU. I thought you might want to know in case you have some materials on-site that you can use to duplicatre this. If you get a chance to look inside an HP pavilion desktop PC, you should see what I'm talking about. Hope the info helps (?) Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/7/2003 at 12:29 AM Stephen Kuhn wrote: >On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:58, Lanman wrote: >> Stephen; Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those "Wallabee's" you've got >on in the picture? Grin! Grin! On a different note, I'm trying to >understand why you'd have a fan blowing cool air onto a Thermaltake >Volcano7 that's trying to blow air OUT of the box, mate? Aren't you >forcing air back and forth towards each other? Wouldn't it be better to >reverse the external fan so that it helps the Volcano expel warm air to >the outside of the box? >> >> And what's this about not having a life? You've got us, mate! LOL! >> >> Seriously, though,nice shoes! >> >> Lanman > >Ok - wallabies live near rocky places - they're smaller version of the >kangaroo - here, on the flood plain below the 400+ metre escarpment, >we'd have "regular" kangaroos - if it weren't for civilisation... > >Anyways, the Thermaltake forces air down from the fan THROUGH the block >- the fan on the outside of the case is forcing air DOWN THROUGH to the >Thermaltake...the fan next to the Thermaltake is sucking air OUT of the >case...the fan near the lower front of the case is blowing air towards >the front of the case - to cause the flow of air to not "deaden" below >the hard drives. The PSU fan is also sucking air out of the case. > >I've got another 120mm fan - same as the one already mounted outside of >the case - that I'm going to mount so that it would be forcing air into >the lower front section, with a PVC elbow that's cut and modded to then >force the air UP at the HD's, and have an 80mm fan mounted in the top >plate of the case to suck exhaust out and up. > >I've created a 'filter' from a postoffice CD envelope with a piece of >foam in it that sits over the 120mm fan - to limit dust going into the >case - and have another for the next fan. > >With the current fan/filter setup, there really wasn't much dust in the >case - mostly in the PSU because it's, well, cluttered, and doesn't have >very good airflow. > >My next PSU is going to have the ducted fan that sits above the actual >PSU - sucking the dust/hot air out (as hot air rises, ay?). > >If I had the cash, I'd try to do a watercooling setup - but that's like >$300 - and well, I got kids...so I can't justify it to the wife. This >fan, the Thermaltake Volcano 7, I justified because the guy at the fair >wanted $45, and I pulled out $35 and said "Hey man, this is all I got" >and well, he took it...(I'm sure he still made money on it...) - and >it's a much better fan than the one that came from Intel with the >Celery, er, Celeron... > >My goal is to have the CPU live at 20C - and since this is just a cheapo >case that I can hack/whack to death (and I've got heaps of case parts >laying around) I'm trying to come up with "forced air cooling" >techniques for doing so...I'm also trying to build a "forced air box" >that would have four 120mm fans forcing air through a 2.5cm tube >directly onto the CPU block assembly, and another 2.5cm tube blasting >directly onto the hard drives...(might even remove the HD's from the >system and put them into another box and cool them seperately...) > >Fun fun fun... >-- >Mon Jul 7 00:15:01 EST 2003 > 00:15:01 up 1:47, 2 users, load average: 1.48, 1.28, 1.13 >- >|____ |kuhn media australia| >| /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | >| .\__/ || | | || >| _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| >| | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >- > linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 > Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 >- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > >Things past redress and now with me past care. >
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:20, ed tharp wrote: > I reeally like the duct-tape mod, I just sent the URL to MaximumPC > for their contest,,, good luck > http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-06-25.html Hehehehe...yeah - with all the completely and totally awesome case mods out there, I'm sure mine will get at least a laugh - I still laugh at it...and duct tape RULES! (If you can't fix it with duct tape and bailing wire, it can't be fixed!) > and a life?? I will stand up and loudly proclaim, Stephen, you, and > everyone that has taken the time to download a picture of ANY case mod, > (much less those that you can read the writing on the chips) has NO > life, needs to find one right away. > In fact, it is on my list of things to do, and moving up in importance. My wife sits over at her computer and tells me the same thing. She's trying to prioritise "having a life" as well...(same with having sex)...it's somewhere on the list... The kids think I'm nuts. Drilling holes in metal, building an air compressor (industrial strength) just to blow dust out of machines and spray paint casings, ripping apart hard drives and making 5v helicopters (gee, that's one I need to take pictures of!), ripping apart old systems and scavenging all the nuts, bolts, risers, power supplies, fans... (More fun than watching cricket) -- Mon Jul 7 00:30:01 EST 2003 00:30:01 up 2:02, 2 users, load average: 1.17, 1.13, 1.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * NT (as in Windows NT) is short for "Not Trustworthy". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:58, Lanman wrote: > Stephen; Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those "Wallabee's" you've got on in the > picture? Grin! Grin! On a different note, I'm trying to understand why you'd have a > fan blowing cool air onto a Thermaltake Volcano7 that's trying to blow air OUT of > the box, mate? Aren't you forcing air back and forth towards each other? Wouldn't it > be better to reverse the external fan so that it helps the Volcano expel warm air to > the outside of the box? > > And what's this about not having a life? You've got us, mate! LOL! > > Seriously, though,nice shoes! > > Lanman Ok - wallabies live near rocky places - they're smaller version of the kangaroo - here, on the flood plain below the 400+ metre escarpment, we'd have "regular" kangaroos - if it weren't for civilisation... Anyways, the Thermaltake forces air down from the fan THROUGH the block - the fan on the outside of the case is forcing air DOWN THROUGH to the Thermaltake...the fan next to the Thermaltake is sucking air OUT of the case...the fan near the lower front of the case is blowing air towards the front of the case - to cause the flow of air to not "deaden" below the hard drives. The PSU fan is also sucking air out of the case. I've got another 120mm fan - same as the one already mounted outside of the case - that I'm going to mount so that it would be forcing air into the lower front section, with a PVC elbow that's cut and modded to then force the air UP at the HD's, and have an 80mm fan mounted in the top plate of the case to suck exhaust out and up. I've created a 'filter' from a postoffice CD envelope with a piece of foam in it that sits over the 120mm fan - to limit dust going into the case - and have another for the next fan. With the current fan/filter setup, there really wasn't much dust in the case - mostly in the PSU because it's, well, cluttered, and doesn't have very good airflow. My next PSU is going to have the ducted fan that sits above the actual PSU - sucking the dust/hot air out (as hot air rises, ay?). If I had the cash, I'd try to do a watercooling setup - but that's like $300 - and well, I got kids...so I can't justify it to the wife. This fan, the Thermaltake Volcano 7, I justified because the guy at the fair wanted $45, and I pulled out $35 and said "Hey man, this is all I got" and well, he took it...(I'm sure he still made money on it...) - and it's a much better fan than the one that came from Intel with the Celery, er, Celeron... My goal is to have the CPU live at 20C - and since this is just a cheapo case that I can hack/whack to death (and I've got heaps of case parts laying around) I'm trying to come up with "forced air cooling" techniques for doing so...I'm also trying to build a "forced air box" that would have four 120mm fans forcing air through a 2.5cm tube directly onto the CPU block assembly, and another 2.5cm tube blasting directly onto the hard drives...(might even remove the HD's from the system and put them into another box and cool them seperately...) Fun fun fun... -- Mon Jul 7 00:15:01 EST 2003 00:15:01 up 1:47, 2 users, load average: 1.48, 1.28, 1.13 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Things past redress and now with me past care. -- William Shakespeare, "Richard II" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:14, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Just had to share these stats with y'all; purchased a new CPU fan today > - a Thermaltake Volcano 7 - so that coupled with the 120mm fan I mounted > just above where the CPU sits - blowing directly down onto the CPU > assembly (I cut a hole in the case side and mounted the fan outside of > the case - it's an industrial 400 cubic metres per hour model) gives me > the following nice stats: > - > CPU Fan: 3154 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) > SYS Temp: +30.5°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) > CPU Temp: +29.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) > SBr Temp: +20.7°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) > hddtemp /dev/hda: ST340016A: 29°C > hddtemp /dev/hdb: ST340824A: 32°C > - You might remind the world that it's WINTER in the southern hemisphere! What's the ambient temperature? I don't recall anyone having central heating in NSW; they just wear a sheep or two in the winter. > Who says I don't have a life? -- N. B. Day Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 09:58, Lanman wrote: > Stephen; Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those "Wallabee's" you've got on in the > picture? Grin! Grin! On a different note, I'm trying to understand why you'd have a > fan blowing cool air onto a Thermaltake Volcano7 that's trying to blow air OUT of > the box, mate? Aren't you forcing air back and forth towards each other? Wouldn't it > be better to reverse the external fan so that it helps the Volcano expel warm air to > the outside of the box? > > And what's this about not having a life? You've got us, mate! LOL! > > Seriously, though,nice shoes! > > Lanman > I reeally like the duct-tape mod, I just sent the URL to MaximumPC for their contest,,, good luck http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-06-25.html and a life?? I will stand up and loudly proclaim, Stephen, you, and everyone that has taken the time to download a picture of ANY case mod, (much less those that you can read the writing on the chips) has NO life, needs to find one right away. In fact, it is on my list of things to do, and moving up in importance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
Stephen; Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those "Wallabee's" you've got on in the picture? Grin! Grin! On a different note, I'm trying to understand why you'd have a fan blowing cool air onto a Thermaltake Volcano7 that's trying to blow air OUT of the box, mate? Aren't you forcing air back and forth towards each other? Wouldn't it be better to reverse the external fan so that it helps the Volcano expel warm air to the outside of the box? And what's this about not having a life? You've got us, mate! LOL! Seriously, though,nice shoes! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/6/2003 at 11:14 PM Stephen Kuhn wrote: >Just had to share these stats with y'all; purchased a new CPU fan today >- a Thermaltake Volcano 7 - so that coupled with the 120mm fan I mounted >just above where the CPU sits - blowing directly down onto the CPU >assembly (I cut a hole in the case side and mounted the fan outside of >the case - it's an industrial 400 cubic metres per hour model) gives me >the following nice stats: >- >CPU Fan: 3154 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) >SYS Temp: +30.5°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) >CPU Temp: +29.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) >SBr Temp: +20.7°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) >hddtemp /dev/hda: ST340016A: 29°C >hddtemp /dev/hdb: ST340824A: 32°C >- > >Pictures of the case/mod will be posted after I'm done getting the >images down to a manageable size...in a few hours I reckon...(g) > >http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/casemod/ > >Who says I don't have a life? >-- >Sun Jul 6 22:50:00 EST 2003 > 22:50:00 up 22 min, 2 users, load average: 1.72, 0.61, 0.32 >- >|____ |kuhn media australia| >| /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | >| .\__/ || | | || >| _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| >| | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >- > linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 > Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 >- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > >Never mind the bullet with your name on it, try to avoid the shrapnel >addressed to occupant > -- Murphy's New Military Laws n4 > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
