Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

2001-01-21 Thread civileme

On Friday 19 January 2001 18:09, you wrote:
 Thanks for the response, Fred;

 I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions.  From the
 Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a
 partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and
 explains:

Loss isn't inevitable with windows partitions--they are rather easy to 
resize.  Ext2 (Linux Native) partitions are much more code-heavy to resize 
and diskdrake doesn't have the codespace to deal with them, so in that case, 
loss is inevitable.

If the four partitions on your disk are all primary partitions, then you are 
out of partition space and cannot add ANY partitions without deleting one and 
remaking it as extended.  

 "Before resizing a hard drive which
 alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly
 recommended  that you run ScanDisk and Disk
 Defragmenter   from within Windows on the
 drive. And as always, back-up
 data you cannot afford to lose before
 partitioning drives."

 While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's
 inevitable.  Of course, I shall backup that data.  There is also an
 animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be
 seen here:

  "This animations shows
 how to quickly and
 easily partition a
 drive thatalready
 contains
 MS-Windows
 using
 DiskDrake."

 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/pag
es/custom6.php3

 Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old
 partition?  I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to
 re-install anything then, either, as you imply.

 Any other feedback shall be warmly received,

 Dave

 Fred Schroeder wrote:
  Windows won't see any of the Linux partions.
  You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or
  something like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the
  data on the disk when you repartion.  So make certain you have back-ups.
  Fred
 
   I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
   residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over
 
  part
 
   of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
   letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them
   with new drive letters?




Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

2001-01-20 Thread James Mellema

Dan LaBine wrote:
 
 Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose
 Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an
 excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions.
 I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows
 in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions!
 
 dan laBine
 
 On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote:
  I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
  residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over part
  of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
  letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with
  new drive letters?

I have installed L-M 7.2 on at least 5 dual boot computers, and have
never, ever lost anything from the WIN98 partition. Defrag it first then
go ahead with a custom install of linux. When you get to the
reapportioning segment of the installation program you need to 

1) Click on the "C:\" partition and resize it to something larger than
it contains (be liberal, WIN98 requires 10+% of the drivespace free for
its ungainly swap function).

2) create new partitions out of the free space, At least 2; / and swap.
( I think /boot, /, /home,  swap is better and adding a big /usr is
even better.)

3) format the new partitions in the next step (check for bad sectors)

4) proceed on with install

The other drive letters will not be altered. Windows assigns them at
boot up anyway, and since it is too ignorant to recognize ext2 file
system it wont even know they are there. Windows will only report on win
file systems the other partitions are invisible to it.
-- 
Jim
--
James Mellema, CRNA
--
Linux User # 71650
ICQ #19685870




Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Burrows

Thanks for the response, Fred; 

I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions.  From the
Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a
partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and
explains:

"Before resizing a hard drive which
alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly
recommended  that you run ScanDisk and Disk
Defragmenter   from within Windows on the
drive. And as always, back-up
data you cannot afford to lose before
partitioning drives."

While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's
inevitable.  Of course, I shall backup that data.  There is also an
animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be
seen here:
 
 "This animations shows
how to quickly and
easily partition a
drive thatalready
contains 
MS-Windows
using 
DiskDrake."

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/pages/custom6.php3

Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old
partition?  I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to
re-install anything then, either, as you imply.

Any other feedback shall be warmly received,

Dave


Fred Schroeder wrote:
 
 Windows won't see any of the Linux partions.
 You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or something
 like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the data on the disk
 when you repartion.  So make certain you have back-ups.
 Fred
 
  I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
  residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over
 part
  of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
  letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with
  new drive letters?
-- 
Dave Burrows
741 Cleveland Road
Washington, PA  15301  
USA




Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

2001-01-19 Thread Fred Schroeder

Dave,
No, I am not saying that a reinstall is certain, just wanted you to be
prepared if it does turn out that way.
Best of luck!
Fred

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Burrows" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters


 Thanks for the response, Fred;

 I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions.  From the
 Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a
 partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and
 explains:

 "Before resizing a hard drive which
 alreadycontains Windows, it is
strongly
 recommended  that you run ScanDisk and
Disk
 Defragmenter   from within Windows on the
 drive. And as always, back-up
 data you cannot afford to lose before
 partitioning drives."

 While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's
 inevitable.  Of course, I shall backup that data.  There is also an
 animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be
 seen here:

  "This animations shows
 how to quickly and
 easily partition a
 drive thatalready
 contains
 MS-Windows
 using
 DiskDrake."


http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/page
s/custom6.php3

 Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old
 partition?  I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to
 re-install anything then, either, as you imply.

 Any other feedback shall be warmly received,

 Dave


 Fred Schroeder wrote:
 
  Windows won't see any of the Linux partions.
  You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or
something
  like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the data on the
disk
  when you repartion.  So make certain you have back-ups.
  Fred
 
   I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
   residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over
  part
   of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned
drive
   letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them
with
   new drive letters?
 --
 Dave Burrows
 741 Cleveland Road
 Washington, PA  15301
 USA







Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

2001-01-19 Thread Dan LaBine

Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose 
Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an 
excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions. 
I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows 
in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions!

dan laBine


On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
 residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over part
 of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
 letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with
 new drive letters?




Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

2001-01-19 Thread Donald Hinds

Mandrake 7.2 handles this very well. I have a WinME 20G HD and partitioned 5G
for Linux with 7.2 partition manager.

   Don


Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose 
Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an 
excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions.

I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows

in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions!

dan laBine


On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
 residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over part

 of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
 letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with

 new drive letters?