Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:39:47 +1300 Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOTE: Still can't get comedycentral.com to work though! Says I don't have realplayer installed. Damn, that's the only reason I wanted it :-( I bet that goes back to an earlier point, made by Monsieur Phinney, that it may be looking for the 'RealOnePlayer', you know DRM and all that. Pft! Nice goin' on the hack tho, definitely something I'll copy and paste for future, thanks much! -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Sunday 04 January 2004 08:08 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: Jerry Barton wrote: I was unable to get flash working for the longest time. Then, in the course of debugging a different issue, I happened to try starting galeon from a command line. It complained that it was missing library libstdc++-libc6.2 (something like that, sorry, I moved onto other problems since then.) So I hunted around and found that package libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk (comes on the Mandrake CD) contains this lib. Installed that package, and now flash works in all my browsers. This is the 6.0.79 (whatever) version downloaded directly from the Macromedia site. Thanks for the tip. I installed this lib, then did an urpmi of the Flash6 rpm. Got the removed old flash plugin message, then installed successfully message. Opened Mozilla and went to a flash site--Flash6 works! I don't know if it was just luck, or if that lib was really the fix for my problem. If that lib was needed, why didn't the pkg manager catch it has a dependency? Oh, well--it worked, and I've filed this for future ref. e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 08:17, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:55:16 -0600 Shawn Protsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have done in the past (I did not use the RealPlayer RPM). After installing Real Player (8) there is an object named rpnp.so located in /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/. Copy rpnp.so into your plugins directory. I am using Galeon 1.3.3 and Firebird 0.7 and both work with the RealPlayer plugin. Which plugins dir exactly, though. I would assume I have to create it, since I can find nothing in /usr/share/galeon, and I already have a file rpnp.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins. Not sure but I think the same applies to mozilla-1.4: I installed RealPlayer-8.0-6mdk.i586.rpm, RealPlayer-Codecs-9.0-2mdk.i586.rpm and mozplugger-1.3.0-8mdk.i586.rpm but couldn't get RealPlayer working in either mozilla-1.5 or firebird-0.7 (RealPlayer itself worked fine, just not from a browser). I had already created a symlink to /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rpnp.so in both plugin directories, but alas... no go. The problem is that these newer versions of mozilla and firebird are compiled with gcc-3.2 but the RealPlayer plugin is compiled with gcc-2.95. Thanks to Mitch at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213234 we have a hack to get around this problem. After locating an old libgcc.a from gcc-2.96 on my system, I created the file (see attached rpnphack.so ) called rpnphack.so with the following parameters: ld -shared -o rpnphack.so \ /full/path/to/RealPlayer/rpnp.so \ /some/path/to/an/old/libgcc.a I then copied the rpnphack.so to the browser plugin directories, started firebird, tried RealNetworks' test samples at http://service.real.com/realone/test/ and VOILA!!! it works! Realplayer starts buffering the demo. NOTE: Still can't get comedycentral.com to work though! Says I don't have realplayer installed. about:plugins shows: audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes and in /etc/mozpluggerrc I have the following lines: audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin: rpm: RealPlayer Plugin Metafile audio/x-pn-realaudio: ra,rm,ram: Realaudio-plugin resource locator audio/x-realaudio: ra,rm,ram: RealAudio file application/vnd.rn-realmedia: rm: RealMedia file application/smil: smi: RealPlayer audio/vnd.rn-realaudio: ra,ram: RealAudio file audio/vnd.rn-realvideo: rv: RealVideo file nokill exits: realplay $file Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:39, Sharrea Day wrote: huge snip file (see attached rpnphack.so ) called rpnphack.so with the following parameters: snip Replying to my own message... ;) Oops forgot to attach my rpnphack.so... and rather than p*ss some people off I decided to just print the contents of the file here... no attachments... no, no... ld -shared -o rpnphack.so \ /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rpnp.so \ /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/2.96/libgcc.a Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Friday 02 January 2004 10:19 am, JoeHill wrote: I've been at this every which way I can think of and I can't figure out why RealPlayer is not doin' what it should... I installed RealPlayer 8 from their site, but when I go to install the mozilla-realplayer plugin from texstar (ya, I know it's for 9.1, but his Flash plugin worked so I figured...) I get Realplayer 8 not installed, so I have to install the plugin with --nodeps. I would very much like to get this workin', esp for this site: http://www.comedycentral.com/dailyshow/videos_headlines.jhtml I'm thinkin' there be sumthin strange about the way 9.2 is handling Mozilla plugins. I just put 9.2 on a test machine, and I could not get the Flashplayer 6 plugin to appear. Both files were installed in the plugins directory, but Helpabout plug-ins didn't show them, and, of course, Flash didn't work. I've installed Flash 6 on several 9.1 machines (the very same files, in fact), and it worked flawlessly. I still had the *.so and *.class files from Flash 5, so I experimented and copied them to the moz plugins directory. Flash worked! I removed them and tried the *.so and *.xpt from known working Flash 6 machines, and they wouldn't work. Smells like a bug, to me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:05:58 -0800 E. Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinkin' there be sumthin strange about the way 9.2 is handling Mozilla plugins. I just put 9.2 on a test machine, and I could not get the Flashplayer 6 plugin to appear. Both files were installed in the plugins directory, but Helpabout plug-ins didn't show them, and, of course, Flash didn't work. I've installed Flash 6 on several 9.1 machines (the very same files, in fact), and it worked flawlessly. I still had the *.so and *.class files from Flash 5, so I experimented and copied them to the moz plugins directory. Flash worked! I removed them and tried the *.so and *.xpt from known working Flash 6 machines, and they wouldn't work. Smells like a bug, to me. I got flash to work with the plf .rpm but not with the installer from macromedia's site. There's some other file needed but i don't remember what it is. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Saturday 03 January 2004 09:19 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:05:58 -0800 I got flash to work with the plf .rpm but not with the installer from macromedia's site. There's some other file needed but i don't remember what it is. Anybody know the file that's needed to make flash 6 work? Weird that the macromedia installer worked on 9.1 but doesn't on 9.2, and no error messages. Thanks, e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday 04 January 2004 7:59 am, E. Hines wrote: On Saturday 03 January 2004 09:19 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:05:58 -0800 I got flash to work with the plf .rpm but not with the installer from macromedia's site. There's some other file needed but i don't remember what it is. Anybody know the file that's needed to make flash 6 work? Weird that the macromedia installer worked on 9.1 but doesn't on 9.2, and no error messages. Thanks, e Flash is working here; as well as on every box I've installed it under 9.2, and some that I just sent the following instructions to. To the best of my knowledge anyway; meaning nobody seems to be complaining, g Click the link below; find your distribution and version, download the flash player plug-in, then open a terminal in the directory you downloaded it to, become super user and type: urpmi flash-plugin and strike the Enter key. You should watch for floating dependency messages. URPMI will take care of them, but you may be asked to verify their installation. Actually I don't know if there are any for this but it never hurts to warn a person that there _might_ be. The URL is: http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/site_ucsc.html For 9.2 you'll be downloading: flash-plugin-6.0.79-2.i386.rpm If you have upgraded Mozilla to 1.5 as I and many of the people that I've helped locally have you'll also need to copy the plug-in to the /usr/lib/mozilla-1.5/plugins directory. While you're in /usr/lib see how many Mozilla directories there are, the plug-ins for the browser (and Galeon and Firebird and I believe Epiphany) are supposed to be read from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but that doesn't seem to be the case. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 09:17:08 up 14 days, 19:07, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.05 Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. -- Redd Foxx -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/+D7HZqvqlrLPr5YRAr7gAJ9ofDK/sxSJuF9XwwqUoeT6utGMfgCePbdz f0cGWaNVrHo68Aq41ayCyeo= =w3eH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Sunday 04 January 2004 08:26 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Flash is working here; as well as on every box I've installed it under 9.2, and some that I just sent the following instructions to. To the best of my knowledge anyway; meaning nobody seems to be complaining, g For 9.2 you'll be downloading: flash-plugin-6.0.79-2.i386.rpm If you have upgraded Mozilla to 1.5 as I and many of the people that I've helped locally have you'll also need to copy the plug-in to the /usr/lib/mozilla-1.5/plugins directory. Yup, that's my rpm, and that's what I did. The only difference is that I haven't upgraded moz from 1.4 to 1.5 (I'm on dial-up), but that plugin works in 9.1 with 1.3. But, Flash 5 does work with no problems, and there are only a few sites that require 6. I would like to get it sorted out, though. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday 04 January 2004 9:56 am, E. Hines wrote: whack Yup, that's my rpm, and that's what I did. The only difference is that I haven't upgraded moz from 1.4 to 1.5 (I'm on dial-up), but that plugin works in 9.1 with 1.3. But, Flash 5 does work with no problems, and there are only a few sites that require 6. I would like to get it sorted out, though. e Too weird. You installed it with urpmi and it still doesn't work? I didn't actually upgrade Mozilla until _after_ I had installed all the plugins for 1.4. By that I mean what you see as a result of going to the browser test page I post a link to below. Everything works here, but you'll notice that I didn't install any Real Player plugins. I've never found a reason for it, any site that I go to is usually supported by what I did install. Might that be the problem, or part of it? A conflict between the plugins you have installed? Just spit-balling here, I don't see why your flash-plugin doesn't work but mine does. A good page for a browser test: http://www.expertit.co.uk/support/browsertest/ Plugins installedThe following plug-ins are installed on your system: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.2_03-b02 - Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.2_03 - libjavaplugin_oji.so mplayerplug-in v0.80 handles QuickTime Windows Media Player Plugin - Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime and Windows Media Player streams using mplayer - mplayerplug-in.so Shockwave Flash - Shockwave Flash 6.0 r79 - libflashplayer.so Default Plugin - The default plugin handles plugin data for mimetypes and extensions that are not specified and facilitates downloading of new plugins. - - libnullplugin.so Holler if you need to see anything else from my install. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 12:04:05 up 14 days, 21:54, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.08 So this is what it feels like to be potato salad... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/+GodZqvqlrLPr5YRAo9kAJ48DP7XH7g72LPwaNchzb9dNFDUFwCfUNXZ uAP/Ysonlmqo1QvdH2Qs8j8= =gT2O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
Jerry Barton wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:05:58 -0800 E. Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinkin' there be sumthin strange about the way 9.2 is handling Mozilla plugins. I just put 9.2 on a test machine, and I could not get the Flashplayer 6 plugin to appear. Both files were installed in the plugins directory, but Helpabout plug-ins didn't show them, and, of course, Flash didn't work. I've installed Flash 6 on several 9.1 machines (the very same files, in fact), and it worked flawlessly. I still had the *.so and *.class files from Flash 5, so I experimented and copied them to the moz plugins directory. Flash worked! I removed them and tried the *.so and *.xpt from known working Flash 6 machines, and they wouldn't work. Smells like a bug, to me. I got flash to work with the plf .rpm but not with the installer from macromedia's site. There's some other file needed but i don't remember what it is. I was unable to get flash working for the longest time. Then, in the course of debugging a different issue, I happened to try starting galeon from a command line. It complained that it was missing library libstdc++-libc6.2 (something like that, sorry, I moved onto other problems since then.) So I hunted around and found that package libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk (comes on the Mandrake CD) contains this lib. Installed that package, and now flash works in all my browsers. This is the 6.0.79 (whatever) version downloaded directly from the Macromedia site. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:19:21 -0500 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been at this every which way I can think of and I can't figure out why RealPlayer is not doin' what it should... I should add, I've tried this in Moz 1.4 and Galeon 1.3.8, neither works. As per usual, don't even ask about Konqueror... ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state.-- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Friday, Jan 2, 2004, at 12:19 US/Central, JoeHill wrote: I've been at this every which way I can think of and I can't figure out why RealPlayer is not doin' what it should... I installed RealPlayer 8 from their site, but when I go to install the mozilla-realplayer plugin from texstar (ya, I know it's for 9.1, but his Flash plugin worked so I figured...) I get Realplayer 8 not installed, so I have to install the plugin with --nodeps. I would very much like to get this workin', esp for this site: http://www.comedycentral.com/dailyshow/videos_headlines.jhtml ...but when I click on the links I get the error that Realplayer is not installed. It *could* be a prob with the site, but with the error I'm getting from installing the mozilla plugin, I'm suspicious about the way the Realplayer RPM is installed, perhaps in the wrong dir? I have tried it on other sites, like the IBM ads, and still no go. Some info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$rpm -qa | grep real real-codecs-1.2-1plf mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$rpm -qa | grep Real RealPlayer-8.0-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$which realplay /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay As always, any assistance greatly appreciated! Hi Joel, Here is what I have done in the past (I did not use the RealPlayer RPM). After installing Real Player (8) there is an object named rpnp.so located in /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/. Copy rpnp.so into your plugins directory. I am using Galeon 1.3.3 and Firebird 0.7 and both work with the RealPlayer plugin. Shawn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:55:16 -0600 Shawn Protsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have done in the past (I did not use the RealPlayer RPM). After installing Real Player (8) there is an object named rpnp.so located in /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/. Copy rpnp.so into your plugins directory. I am using Galeon 1.3.3 and Firebird 0.7 and both work with the RealPlayer plugin. Which plugins dir exactly, though. I would assume I have to create it, since I can find nothing in /usr/share/galeon, and I already have a file rpnp.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins. Thanks! -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.-- John Maynard Keynes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Friday, Jan 2, 2004, at 13:17 US/Central, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:55:16 -0600 Shawn Protsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have done in the past (I did not use the RealPlayer RPM). After installing Real Player (8) there is an object named rpnp.so located in /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/. Copy rpnp.so into your plugins directory. I am using Galeon 1.3.3 and Firebird 0.7 and both work with the RealPlayer plugin. Which plugins dir exactly, though. I would assume I have to create it, since I can find nothing in /usr/share/galeon, and I already have a file rpnp.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins. Joe, This is where I have rpnp.so. [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugins]$ slocate rpnp.so /home/shawn/apps/MozillaFirebird0.7/plugins/rpnp.so /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/plugins/rpnp.so /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rpnp.so /usr/local/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
Jerry Barton wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:17:57 -0500 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which plugins dir exactly, though. I would assume I have to create it, since I can find nothing in /usr/share/galeon, and I already have a file rpnp.so in/usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins. Thanks! I seem to have the same thing happening to me Joe. When I do about:plugins in mozilla/galeon/epiphany it only has rpm extention associated with rpnp.so(!hey! uh...). :-/I looked on the mplayer site and it looks like they have codecs for real media so I'm going to try ridding myself of Realplayer and see if the mplayer plugin works with them after adding the codecs. We'll see. I also couldn't get the Helix player working either. You'd expect it to just work like it should eh? ;-) I have Realplayer installed, but I always use other programs (usually Xine) to view .rm files. Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:02:08 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Realplayer installed, but I always use other programs (usually Xine) to view .rm files. Is there a way to do that when the site uses a javascript to load the stream? -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Life is not a static thing. The only people who do not change their minds are incompetents in asylums who can't and those in cemeteries.-- Everett Dirksen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Friday 02 January 2004 06:10 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:02:08 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Realplayer installed, but I always use other programs (usually Xine) to view .rm files. Is there a way to do that when the site uses a javascript to load the stream? Just a guess mind you, but I suspect that the reason that you and a lot of other people are having problems with the Linux RealPlayer and streaming media is related to issues with the lack of DRM schemes under Linux. A lot of the current streaming media stuff only works with RealOnePlayer, not the older Realplayer that is available for Linux. Eventually companies like Real, rapidly being shut out of the proprietary software market because of MS are going to have to figure out a business model to make money with open source, including opening up their software source. Personally, I think that advertising embedded in the media is the way to go, but as always, it will take them a bit to figure it out. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 02 January 2004 4:25 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: whack Just a guess mind you, but I suspect that the reason that you and a lot of other people are having problems with the Linux RealPlayer and streaming media is related to issues with the lack of DRM schemes under Linux. A lot of the current streaming media stuff only works with RealOnePlayer, not the older Realplayer that is available for Linux. Eventually companies like Real, rapidly being shut out of the proprietary software market because of MS are going to have to figure out a business model to make money with open source, including opening up their software source. Personally, I think that advertising embedded in the media is the way to go, but as always, it will take them a bit to figure it out. Then there are people such as myself that run the adblock extension in Mozilla based browsers and filter out all the ads anyway. Hard to make a living in advertising from people like me, isn't it? Ad Agents may actually have to find honest work. Probably about the time producers of Reality Based Programming do. eg Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 16:39:59 up 13 days, 2:29, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.17, 0.13 Help! I'm trapped in a Chinese computer factory! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/9gI3ZqvqlrLPr5YRAlmYAJ9aSg7SdB4SMPK6GmUEo52ePIdi4ACbB0AK N3bgK8r6jJS9O9j4S7HlaLM= =9ikl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:02:08 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Realplayer installed, but I always use other programs (usually Xine) to view .rm files. Is there a way to do that when the site uses a javascript to load the stream? Not sure, but in Mozilla, Konqueror etc. you can set what you like as the default app. BTW, javascript is an abomination. Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Friday 02 January 2004 06:43 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: Then there are people such as myself that run the adblock extension in Mozilla based browsers and filter out all the ads anyway. Hard to make a living in advertising from people like me, isn't it? Ad Agents may actually have to find honest work. Actually, ad based support can actually make P2p work for media producers. Imagine an mp3, contains a 30 second or varied length ad in the beginning or end of the song. You can edit the mp3 to remove the ad but you need to listen to it at least once to get around to removing it. Artist makes money through sponsorship, consumer gets access to media, everybody is happy. Real and other video based goods can be handled the exact same way. Stick the ad in, let the consumer remove it at will but they watch it at least once so the producer gets compensated. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:06:08 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, ad based support can actually make P2p work for media producers. Imagine an mp3, contains a 30 second or varied length ad in the beginning or end of the song. You can edit the mp3 to remove the ad but you need to listen to it at least once to get around to removing it. Artist makes money through sponsorship, consumer gets access to media, everybody is happy. Real and other video based goods can be handled the exact same way. Stick the ad in, let the consumer remove it at will but they watch it at least once so the producer gets compensated. I actually don't mind ads so much. One of favourite sites is Salon.com, and every day I have to go through some clicking on links and waiting through a quick ad to get my free day pass, but it's a small price to pay for great content. This is why this RealPlayer thing is bugging me so much. On the Jon Stewart site, you had to watch a quick ad before the video would play (hence the javascript crap, I guess). Why not, like you say, embed the ad in the video and just let me download it so I can view it in any way I wish. No, they gotta make you watch the ad *every time you click*. Sheesh. Anyhow, I'm gonna take a look around on that site for a contact e-mail and send them one of my infamous be more Linux friendly or we won't play with you no more missives. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas.-- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] realplayer probs
Thanks for that Trevor, Know I have RealPlyer7 and Netscape recognises it when I typre about:plugins in the URL field. However I still keep getting a plugin problem when trying to access sites that use sound files and video? Andrew
