Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Thanks for the encouragement. It's amazing. An OS that can be customized by the user. Don't you love this? Roman Keith Robinson wrote: My own experience witrh (re)compiling the kernel is very positive. It has taught me the most about my system and about Linux. Take your time. Read lots and read the HOWTOs from Linus and all as you go. If you don't understand something as you work your way through it, hop on the Net and find out. we are all terrified at first that we are gonna break the kernel. Bear in mind that the kernel that is running the system you are working from is not the same as the one you are compiling. So, If you break the one you are compiling you still have your working system. Take your time. Allow several hours to work through it. When you are done you will have the satisfaction of having built a totally customized operating system just for your machine and for your needs. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Good answer! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Keith Robinson wrote: Oh, and may the *source* be with you. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Don't I know it! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
That's what it's all about. I just LOVE my Penguin. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Thanks for the encouragement. It's amazing. An OS that can be customized by the user. Don't you love this? Roman Keith Robinson wrote: My own experience witrh (re)compiling the kernel is very positive. It has taught me the most about my system and about Linux. Take your time. Read lots and read the HOWTOs from Linus and all as you go. If you don't understand something as you work your way through it, hop on the Net and find out. we are all terrified at first that we are gonna break the kernel. Bear in mind that the kernel that is running the system you are working from is not the same as the one you are compiling. So, If you break the one you are compiling you still have your working system. Take your time. Allow several hours to work through it. When you are done you will have the satisfaction of having built a totally customized operating system just for your machine and for your needs. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote:
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
When I compiled my first kernel, I had (goddies) a little guide by hand (self made and getted in several docs) about WHAT was needed and for WHAT. (approximatively) So, that first experience was a success. And have always 3 kernels ready for use in lilo, the linus, an experimental and a good stable. So, have always a good one to select within lilo and there may be no pb. And I didn't remove my old /lib/modules, figured out as /lib/modules/x.x.xx (modules created by the kernel version) y.y.yy etc.. Same for System.map (for all security) Eric Romanator wrote: Thanks for the encouragement. It's amazing. An OS that can be customized by the user. Don't you love this? Roman Keith Robinson wrote: My own experience witrh (re)compiling the kernel is very positive. It has taught me the most about my system and about Linux. Take your time. Read lots and read the HOWTOs from Linus and all as you go. If you don't understand something as you work your way through it, hop on the Net and find out. we are all terrified at first that we are gonna break the kernel. Bear in mind that the kernel that is running the system you are working from is not the same as the one you are compiling. So, If you break the one you are compiling you still have your working system. Take your time. Allow several hours to work through it. When you are done you will have the satisfaction of having built a totally customized operating system just for your machine and for your needs. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
I love mine too, though I'm still learning lots! Someone on a mailling list I subscribe to (not this one, obviously) sent everyone an attachment with a virus, and those of us running penguins were immune. *hugging my lil linux box* The advantages are legion... Kathleen Mark Weaver wrote: That's what it's all about. I just LOVE my Penguin. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Thanks for the encouragement. It's amazing. An OS that can be customized by the user. Don't you love this? Roman Keith Robinson wrote: My own experience witrh (re)compiling the kernel is very positive. It has taught me the most about my system and about Linux. Take your time. Read lots and read the HOWTOs from Linus and all as you go. If you don't understand something as you work your way through it, hop on the Net and find out. we are all terrified at first that we are gonna break the kernel. Bear in mind that the kernel that is running the system you are working from is not the same as the one you are compiling. So, If you break the one you are compiling you still have your working system. Take your time. Allow several hours to work through it. When you are done you will have the satisfaction of having built a totally customized operating system just for your machine and for your needs. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Kathleen, That is exactly why I'm running Linux now. That and the fact that it's a better OS and all the other cool things that I've fallen love with Linux for. Kathleen Dickason wrote: I love mine too, though I'm still learning lots! Someone on a mailling list I subscribe to (not this one, obviously) sent everyone an attachment with a virus, and those of us running penguins were immune. *hugging my lil linux box* The advantages are legion... Kathleen Mark Weaver wrote: That's what it's all about. I just LOVE my Penguin. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Thanks for the encouragement. It's amazing. An OS that can be customized by the user. Don't you love this? Roman Keith Robinson wrote: My own experience witrh (re)compiling the kernel is very positive. It has taught me the most about my system and about Linux. Take your time. Read lots and read the HOWTOs from Linus and all as you go. If you don't understand something as you work your way through it, hop on the Net and find out. we are all terrified at first that we are gonna break the kernel. Bear in mind that the kernel that is running the system you are working from is not the same as the one you are compiling. So, If you break the one you are compiling you still have your working system. Take your time. Allow several hours to work through it. When you are done you will have the satisfaction of having built a totally customized operating system just for your machine and for your needs. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:#179293;Roman x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 note:Roman - Register Linux User #179293 fn:Roman - Register Linux User #179293 end:vcard
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Don't I know it! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
My own experience witrh (re)compiling the kernel is very positive. It has taught me the most about my system and about Linux. Take your time. Read lots and read the HOWTOs from Linus and all as you go. If you don't understand something as you work your way through it, hop on the Net and find out. we are all terrified at first that we are gonna break the kernel. Bear in mind that the kernel that is running the system you are working from is not the same as the one you are compiling. So, If you break the one you are compiling you still have your working system. Take your time. Allow several hours to work through it. When you are done you will have the satisfaction of having built a totally customized operating system just for your machine and for your needs. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="bysh.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Romanator
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Oh, and may the *source* be with you. -- Keith On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, you wrote: Don't I know it! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Thanks Mark, The first time is always the scariest. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:#179293;Roman x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 note:Roman - Register Linux User #179293 fn:Roman - Register Linux User #179293 end:vcard
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Roman, There are probably 1-2 ways that I've seen to do this. I've found the best and easiest ways are documented in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall-HOWTO...or was that the IP-chains-HOWTO...at any rate, check out for sure the kernel HOWTO and take a look in both of the other two. One of the other two give some great build commands for doing a kernel. I don't mean to be confusing but I'm fairly certain it was the... Sorry about that. I just checked to make sure and you'll find the info you need to do a kernel in the Kernel-HOWTO and the Firewall HOWTO. In the firewall howto the section that you want to check out is section 6.1 "Compiling a kernel" Good luck and may the force be with you! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: Hi Mark, Sorry, I just caught the end of the thread on compiling a new kernel. I was hoping to integrate the NVIDIA graphics cards along with 3COM905c series Etherlink drivers but I have to compile the kernel in order for them to be incorporated. What were the 'make' commands for compiling a new kernel. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Mark Weaver wrote: I know what you mean. The real fun part is when something goes wrong and you have to figure out what it is and how to fix it. I've done that serveral times. One time I had the kernel about where you're descibing and I was going after that last 1%. Well, :) , When I rebooted after "thinking" I had gotten that last bit I got a kernel panic and things went south real fast from there. It took me about two hours to get it un-hosed from there, but I got it. That's when I learned about how you can over-lay an installation of Linux over top of the older one. As long as they're the same version "usually" only the system files get over-written. It worked quite nicely for me and saved my bacon! I'm much more careful these days when I do anything with the kernel. I make sure I back things up like the old kernel and it's support files and what-nots. That makes installing the "old" kernel much less painless if the need arises. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Hello, Thanks Mark, I took a shot at it and did fairly well, actually. I used the online documentation. My results were 99% perfect, I'd say. Gotta go back for that remaining 1%. I was impressed with the process enough that I thnk I'll stick with this and take it further. I used to say of that other OS, "##@?!! If I could only get into the guts of this I would" Well, here it is. An Os where I can do that. Mark Weaver wrote: Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Try: http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/Kernel-HOWTO.html Mike excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Linux-Mandrake actually has extremely detailed documentation on practically everything dealing with Mandrake, including compiling and installing new kernels. The overall Reference guide is at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/guides71/en/mdkrefguide/index.html And the section specifically pertaining to kernels is at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/guides71/en/mdkrefguide/compiling.html If you are looking for in depth explanations of anything having to do with Linux, then The Linux Documentation Project is what you are looking for. They maintain the Linux HOWTO's, and more in depth books on Network Administration, security, etc. If you want to compile a kernel or know exactly what goes on in kernel creation, video cards, monitors, databases, etc. the Linux HOWTO'S are the best source. These documents are extremely well written and are described in fashion that any beginner, novice, and expert can find useful. Here are a couple of mirrors for it : http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/index.html http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html For the HOWTO specifically dealing with kernel compilation and customization: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html I hope this helps (I'm doing my first new kernel tonight), Victor excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
