Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 17:48, Frank wrote:

 Checking `bindshell'... not infected
 Checking `lkm'... You have 2 process hidden for readdir command
 You have 2 process hidden for ps command
 Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
 Checking `rexedcs'... not found

Er, have you RTFM the README files from chkrootkit?

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 15:18, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote:
  ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were
  like that.
 
 Absolutely right !
 Thanks !

Nice twist in the right direction, Joe.  :)

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:06 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following:

   ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've
   used were
   like that.
  
  Absolutely right !
  Thanks !
 
 Nice twist in the right direction, Joe.  :)

Hey, even brainwashed socialist idiots get it right once in awhile...

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 10:22, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:06 -0400
 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following:
 
...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've
used were
like that.
   
   Absolutely right !
   Thanks !
  
  Nice twist in the right direction, Joe.  :)
 
 Hey, even brainwashed socialist idiots get it right once in awhile...

Don't be so hard on yourself, Joe. ;)

It's the dawn of a new era, hopefully.  A more cerebral one.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 22 May 2004 8:18 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote:
  ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors
  I've used were like that.

 Absolutely right !
 Thanks !

If you're running 2.6 kernel there might be a better way by setting the 
capability bits on the executable. I don't know if the tools are in 
place yet to set it up though.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Greg


Even tho i run linux I still want to keep my guard upYou are right i do want to 
know whats coming in or trying to come in to my box  is netwatch hard to set up and 
where do i get it  
thanks gregLyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 01:37, Len Lawrence wrote:
 On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:27:33 -0400
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg) wrote:
 
  Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:
  - snip -
  Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
  Greg
  
 
 You could try /usr/sbin/net_monitor.

However I don't think that's what Greg had in mind, since I *think* he
wants something to monitor incoming possible attacks.  net_monitor
merely monitors throughput and doesn't offer specifics on who is
connecting to your firewall.

Netwatch does, tho.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Greg
 Me too  Thanks for the info  You just have to love linux and this group
Greg


Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 21 May 2004 04:51, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

snip
  The thing to remember is that if you are on a
 workstation, you shouldn't need to run xinetd for the reasons
 listed. And if you *do* need to dynamically activate services,
 don't use xinetd to do that, use Dan Bernstein's Tcpserver
 program, available on Vincent Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  No
 vulns that I'm aware of have ever been detected either in vanilla
 qmail or tcpserver.

 LX
/snip

Lyvim, as everything coming from your keyboard : excellent !

Right now, I've stopped xinetd for good.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 02:29, Greg wrote:
  Me too  Thanks for the info  You just have to love linux and this group
 Greg

Well, that's exactly why I post.  Messages like this.  Pretty much all
the payment I need.  :))

How about you, Kaj?  You need any money? :)

 
 
 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Friday 21 May 2004 04:51, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
 snip
   The thing to remember is that if you are on a
  workstation, you shouldn't need to run xinetd for the reasons
  listed. And if you *do* need to dynamically activate services,
  don't use xinetd to do that, use Dan Bernstein's Tcpserver
  program, available on Vincent Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  No
  vulns that I'm aware of have ever been detected either in vanilla
  qmail or tcpserver.
 
  LX
 /snip
 
 Lyvim, as everything coming from your keyboard : excellent !
 
 Right now, I've stopped xinetd for good.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 02:25, Greg wrote: 
 Even tho i run linux I still want to keep my guard up You are right i
 do want to know whats coming in or trying to come in to my box is
 netwatch hard to set up and where do i get it 
 thanks greg

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1170735/com/netwatch-1.0b-0.pre3.1mdk.i586.rpm.html


Grab that, log in as root, and do rpm -ivh netwatch-1.0b-0.pre3.1mdk.i586.rpm


Took me awhile to find that. It was tough, I couldn't remember how I got
it last time.  It's the same version as the one on my system here, so
although the site above does not disclose the version of Mandrake that
this rpm is targeted to, I assume it will work.  You will have to have
ncurses installed in order to use this rpm; I think it's on the distro
cd's.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 22 May 2004 16:30, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:20:59 +0200

 Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:
   How about you, Kaj?  You need any money? :)
 
  Sure, but if someone feels an obligation to pay a little dough,
  I suggest a donation to the Free Software Foundation :
 
  http://member.fsf.org/
 
  Makes one sleep better, laugh louder and cry less.

 I bought a Silver Club membership, does that count?

Absolutely, Joe.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread et
On Saturday 22 May 2004 10:54 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 22 May 2004 16:30, JoeHill wrote:
  On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:20:59 +0200
 
  Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:
How about you, Kaj?  You need any money? :)
  
   Sure, but if someone feels an obligation to pay a little dough,
   I suggest a donation to the Free Software Foundation :
  
   http://member.fsf.org/
  
   Makes one sleep better, laugh louder and cry less.
 
  I bought a Silver Club membership, does that count?

 Absolutely, Joe.

 Kaj Haulrich.

Joe, when did you buy that membership? durring the first part of May? Can you 
check the account the funds were drawn on? Mandrake had a fsck from NATEXIS 
BANQUE POPULAIRES (who handles the visa payment to North America) where the 
account was over debited 100x (oops,,, what decimel point?), so that silver 
membership might have wiped out your reserve.

Good for you tho, a silver membership does help Mandrakesoft as much as almost 
anything you can do, and it is worth it in discounts too, if you consider the 
early ISOs, and stuff like the AMD64 ISOs.

well this is what was posted to the club, about the problem I mentioned.
1. Natexis, our payment platform provider, is responsible for the software 
bug that essentially multiplied the amount due by 100 for some orders.
2. The bug is fixed now and the platform is once again safe and operational 
since Monday May 17.
3. To our knowledge, this bug affected about 250 customers who paid by Visa 
card essentially in North America during the month of May 2004.
4. At no point, was the wrongfully debited amount credited to Mandrakesoft, we 
always received only the correct amount (which partly explains why it took us 
some time to notice the problem).
5. Natexis gave us yesterday (Tuesday, May 18) a set of files from which we 
have identified the affected customers. The information provided by Natexis 
in those files is not of great quality (they were not able to provide us the 
transaction number). So it is possible that some customers we believe 
affected are not (which would be good) and that some customers we do not know 
have been affected (which would be bad).
6. Natexis tells us that they have contacted Visa and your bank on Monday the 
17th. They will credit the amount wrongfully debited from the customer 
account, then will debit again the correct amount. This process should 
happen ?within one or two days?.
7. We have sent an e-mail to all the customers we believe have been affected. 
So if you had billing problems and did not receive an e-mail from us, please 
write to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED], with information about your 
order.
8. We apologize for the inconvenience suffered by our customers and will keep 
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 03:29, Greg wrote:
  Me too  Thanks for the info  You just have to love linux and this group
 Greg

And I just have to second that !!!

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 05:57, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 02:25, Greg wrote: 
  Even tho i run linux I still want to keep my guard up You are right i
  do want to know whats coming in or trying to come in to my box is
  netwatch hard to set up and where do i get it 
  thanks greg
 
 http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1170735/com/netwatch-1.0b-0.pre3.1mdk.i586.rpm.html
 
 
 Grab that, log in as root, and do rpm -ivh netwatch-1.0b-0.pre3.1mdk.i586.rpm
 
 
 Took me awhile to find that. It was tough, I couldn't remember how I got
 it last time.  It's the same version as the one on my system here, so
 although the site above does not disclose the version of Mandrake that
 this rpm is targeted to, I assume it will work.  You will have to have
 ncurses installed in order to use this rpm; I think it's on the distro
 cd's.
 
 LX

Thanks a lot, Lyvim.
I installed it on my 9.2 box without any problem or dependency. However,
it can't find eth0.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cyb]$ netwatch
NO eth0 Interface to work on!!

And portmap was disabled. Thanks again.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:35:14 -0400
et disseminated the following:

   I bought a Silver Club membership, does that count?
 
  Absolutely, Joe.
 
  Kaj Haulrich.
 
 Joe, when did you buy that membership? durring the first part of May? Can you 
 check the account the funds were drawn on? Mandrake had a fsck from NATEXIS 
 BANQUE POPULAIRES (who handles the visa payment to North America) where the 
 account was over debited 100x (oops,,, what decimel point?), so that silver 
 membership might have wiped out your reserve.

I didn't buy it til 2 days ago, and according to their bulletin on this the
problem was fixed on the 17th.

I figger I been using a great OS for a few years now, it's about time. If
anything, I still owe them a few bones.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:46:10 -0300
Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:

  Took me awhile to find that. It was tough, I couldn't remember how I got
  it last time.  It's the same version as the one on my system here, so
  although the site above does not disclose the version of Mandrake that
  this rpm is targeted to, I assume it will work.  You will have to have
  ncurses installed in order to use this rpm; I think it's on the distro
  cd's.
  
  LX
 
 Thanks a lot, Lyvim.
 I installed it on my 9.2 box without any problem or dependency. However,
 it can't find eth0.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cyb]$ netwatch
 NO eth0 Interface to work on!!
 
 And portmap was disabled. Thanks again.

...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were
like that.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Chris
On Saturday 22 May 2004 03:57 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 02:25, Greg wrote:
  Even tho i run linux I still want to keep my guard up You are right i
  do want to know whats coming in or trying to come in to my box is
  netwatch hard to set up and where do i get it
  thanks greg

 http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1170735/com/netwatch-1.0b-0.p
re3.1mdk.i586.rpm.html


There was a new source file uploaded last night

http://www.slctech.org/~mackay/netwatch-1.0bplay.tgz

I was having problems installing the previous version, Gordon came up with a 
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 14:00, Chris wrote:
 On Saturday 22 May 2004 03:57 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 02:25, Greg wrote:
   Even tho i run linux I still want to keep my guard up You are right i
   do want to know whats coming in or trying to come in to my box is
   netwatch hard to set up and where do i get it
   thanks greg
 
  http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1170735/com/netwatch-1.0b-0.p
 re3.1mdk.i586.rpm.html
 
 
 There was a new source file uploaded last night
 
 http://www.slctech.org/~mackay/netwatch-1.0bplay.tgz
 
 I was having problems installing the previous version, Gordon came up with a 
 fix immediately.

How's that for service? ;)  Gordon is awesome.  You can't help but love
the guy.  In a brother type way, of course.

What did he charge you?  grin

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 22 May 2004 05:20 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Sure, but if someone feels an obligation to pay a little dough,
 I suggest a donation to the Free Software Foundation :

 http://member.fsf.org/

 Makes one sleep better, laugh louder and cry less.

 Kaj Haulrich.

   Been an associate member for years.  Money well spent. I see 
Novell, RedHat, and particularly IBM are helpin with GPL defense/ 
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote:
 ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were
 like that.

Absolutely right !
Thanks !

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-22 Thread Chris
On Saturday 22 May 2004 01:33 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

  There was a new source file uploaded last night
 
  http://www.slctech.org/~mackay/netwatch-1.0bplay.tgz
 
  I was having problems installing the previous version, Gordon came up
  with a fix immediately.

 How's that for service? ;)  Gordon is awesome.  You can't help but love
 the guy.  In a brother type way, of course.

 What did he charge you?  grin

 LX

Nothing of course, I think he felt sorry for me since I borked the changes 
he asked me to make in the C source of the previous verson last night. :)

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:13, Lanman wrote:
 Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
  My problem was corrected when I updated to the latest slew of updates
  and also replaced the secure kernel with the latest version.  have not
  seen that problem since then.
 
 Lyvim; How ya doin' Buddy? I found another way to fix the problem. Can 
 you say Bastille? Killed Shorewall, copied over my Bastille files, ran 
 the command and voila! No more shorewall data on my console, and the 
 firewall is running fine (actually runs a bit faster)!

Hello, Immortal One.  ;)  Good to see that you are still your old
indefatigable and irrepressible self.  grin

I may go the Bastille route.  But I had an immense success story getting
shorewall to run an internal Neverwinter Nights server not too long ago,
and now I'm sort of loath to give it up just yet.  I think my problem is
just a matter of editing the right config files in shorewall, maybe the
zone conf file isn't set up right, or something like that...I figure
between the Shorewall mailing lists and the great documentation on Tom
Estep's site, it's a matter of time before I lick it.

 
 Also, is there a Bind Guru here somewhere? I can't get rndc to 
 behave itself. It keeps giving me an error that states -
 
rndc: connect failed: connection refused
 
 Even though Bind seems to start up without errors, and even though port 
 53 is open on my firewall for DNS authentication, port scans keep 
 stating that the port is closed.
 
  You're running shorewall on the firewall, correct?  ;)  I've been
  encountering the same problems with both qmail and bind.
  
  LX
 
 RNDC problem is still happening though. Because of that, my DNS server 
 still appears closed in a firewall scan. I checked at Bind's website, 
 and they say that it's usually due to silly things like the server's 
 hostname ( mine's good ), or the fact that there's no rndc-key located 
 in named.conf or rndc.conf ( which is there in both files on this 
 machine), so I'm not sure what to do. The DNS port is open on the 
 firewall, but the service is not fully starting. The funny thing is that 
 my email server (postfix) runs like a charm, and so does everything else.
 
 So right now, it's more of an annoyance than anything, but I'd like to 
 solve it. Still open to suggestions.
 
 Lanman

Don't have any yet, but I can tell you this; when the email server
problem gets resolved, the DNS problem will quickly follow, and when it
does I'll send you the results.

The difference between the NWN server and the firewall problem is that
while the NWN server ports were being directed to another box on the
internal net, the ports for DNS/Email on the firewall are not; because
of it needing to be a fully qualified domain name with respect to
Qmail.  Qmail is picky about stuff like that.

Keep it straight up buddy..

:) 

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:27, Greg wrote:
 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:

 Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
 Greg

Yes, run netwatch on eth0.  It beats netstat for monitoring
connections.

Netstat's place in the overall scheme of things is to monitor ALL (and I
mean all) incoming connections to your firewall.  Or to your
workstation, if it's directly connected.  Netstat can show you the bytes
in, bytes out, port address, protocol used (udp or tcp), ip address or
the FQDN of the incoming connection, the type of service that uses that
particular port, all selectable with the arrow keys.  Netstat can also
log all this information to a file for legal purposes.  Anybody that
taps one of your ports is recorded in the Netwatch status screen.  It's
a great tool for monitoring your firewall.

The only thing it doesnt do is actually record or analyze incoming
packets for what they are actually for; this is an entirely different
job and should be done by a util such as snort.

If you like netwatch and would like to see it as a part of the contribs
given with Mandrake 9.2, please take the time to go to your Mandrakeclub
RPM voting page and cast your vote for this great utility so that
someone will package it specifically for Mandrake.  Right now it's just
available as a 386 rpm.  The author is Gordon MacKay, this is his
website:

http://www.slctech.org/~mackay/netwatch.html

If you like what you see, email him with some thanks.  Not enough people
thank the developers these days for their hard work.

Firewalls generally should not be running X, therefore it is great that
Netwatch uses an ncurses interface.  This makes it runnable from the
console.

There does seem to be a Mandrake rpm available, but this link only
offers it for Mandrake version 10 

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/2/simple/2

I've got a request in for a contributor to package it for 9.2 but I
don't think it's been done yet.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 21 May 2004 04:51, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

snip
  The thing to remember is that if you are on a
 workstation, you shouldn't need to run xinetd for the reasons
 listed. And if you *do* need to dynamically activate services,
 don't use xinetd to do that, use Dan Bernstein's Tcpserver
 program, available on Vincent Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  No
 vulns that I'm aware of have ever been detected either in vanilla
 qmail or tcpserver.

 LX
/snip

Lyvim, as everything coming from your keyboard : excellent !

Right now, I've stopped xinetd for good.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 01:37, Len Lawrence wrote:
 On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:27:33 -0400
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg) wrote:
 
  Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:
  - snip -
  Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
  Greg
  
 
 You could try /usr/sbin/net_monitor.

However I don't think that's what Greg had in mind, since I *think* he
wants something to monitor incoming possible attacks.  net_monitor
merely monitors throughput and doesn't offer specifics on who is
connecting to your firewall.

Netwatch does, tho.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 03:13, Aron Smith wrote:
 I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am 
 the output from dmesg looks something like this
 -Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0
  
 OUT= MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30226 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=2296 DPT=5554 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30480 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=2544 DPT=9898 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=11550 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=12990 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=64.78.124.187 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=112 ID=1830 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=4887 DPT=5000 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] aronsmith]$
 -
 have I been hacked?
 Thanks in advance
 smitty

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 20 May 2004 10:26 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 03:13, Aron Smith wrote:
  I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am
  the output from dmesg looks something like this
  -Shorewal
 l:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00
  SRC=24.202.47.169 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108
  ID=30226 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2296 DPT=5554 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
  Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
  MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169
  DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30480 DF PROTO=TCP
  SPT=2544 DPT=9898 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
  Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
  MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224
  DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=11550 DF PROTO=TCP
  SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
  Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
  MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224
  DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=12990 DF PROTO=TCP
  SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
  Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
  MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=64.78.124.187
  DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=112 ID=1830 DF PROTO=TCP
  SPT=4887 DPT=5000 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] aronsmith]$
  -
  have I been hacked?
  Thanks in advance
  smitty

 Have you run a chkrootkit on this box yet?
Yes seems to be ok nothing detected
results
[EMAIL PROTECTED] aronsmith]# chkrootkit
ROOTDIR is `/'
Checking `amd'... not found
Checking `basename'... not infected
Checking `biff'... not found
Checking `chfn'... not infected
Checking `chsh'... not infected
Checking `cron'... not infected
Checking `date'... not infected
Checking `du'... not infected
Checking `dirname'... not infected
Checking `echo'... not infected
Checking `egrep'... not infected
Checking `env'... not infected
Checking `find'... not infected
Checking `fingerd'... not found
Checking `gpm'... not found
Checking `grep'... not infected
Checking `hdparm'... not infected
Checking `su'... not infected
Checking `ifconfig'... not infected
Checking `inetd'... not tested
Checking `inetdconf'... not found
Checking `identd'... not found
Checking `init'... not infected
Checking `killall'... not infected
Checking `ldsopreload'... not infected
Checking `login'... not infected
Checking `ls'... not infected
Checking `lsof'... not infected
Checking `mail'... not infected
Checking `mingetty'... not infected
Checking `netstat'... not infected
Checking `named'... not found
Checking `passwd'... not infected
Checking `pidof'... not infected
Checking `pop2'... not found
Checking `pop3'... not found
Checking `ps'... not infected
Checking `pstree'... not infected
Checking `rpcinfo'... not infected
Checking `rlogind'... not found
Checking `rshd'... not found
Checking `slogin'... not infected
Checking `sendmail'... not found
Checking `sshd'... not found
Checking `syslogd'... not infected
Checking `tar'... not infected
Checking `tcpd'... not infected
Checking `tcpdump'... not infected
Checking `top'... not infected
Checking `telnetd'... not found
Checking `timed'... not found
Checking `traceroute'... not infected
Checking `vdir'... not infected
Checking `w'... not infected
Checking `write'... not infected
Checking `aliens'... no suspect files
Searching for sniffer's logs, it may take a while... nothing found
Searching for HiDrootkit's default dir... nothing found
Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... nothing found
Searching for Lion Worm default files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for RSHA's default files and dir... nothing found
Searching for RH-Sharpe's default files... nothing found
Searching for Ambient's rootkit (ark) default files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... nothing found
Searching for LPD Worm files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for Ramen Worm files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for Maniac files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for RK17 files and dirs... nothing found
Searching for Ducoci rootkit... nothing found
Searching for Adore Worm... nothing found
Searching for ShitC Worm... nothing found
Searching for Omega Worm... nothing found
Searching for Sadmind/IIS Worm... nothing found
Searching for MonKit... nothing found
Searching for Showtee... nothing found
Searching for OpticKit... nothing found
Searching for T.R.K... nothing found
Searching for Mithra... nothing found
Searching for OBSD rk v1... nothing found
Searching for LOC rootkit ... nothing found
Searching for Romanian rootkit ... nothing found
Searching for HKRK rootkit ... nothing found

Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Asa Rossoff
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am
 the output from dmesg looks something like this
 -Shorewall
:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0
 OUT= MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30226 DF PROTO=TCP
 SPT=2296 DPT=5554 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30480 DF PROTO=TCP
 SPT=2544 DPT=9898 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=11550 DF PROTO=TCP
 SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=12990 DF PROTO=TCP
 SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=64.78.124.187
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=112 ID=1830 DF PROTO=TCP
 SPT=4887 DPT=5000 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] aronsmith]$
 --
---
 have I been hacked?
 Thanks in advance
 smitty

The log activity you posted doesn't indicate it.  Those are all network
packets that Shorewall dropped -- that didn't get in.. it's normal to have
this activity, generated either by hackers checking for security holes or
worms and whatnot.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 20 May 2004 05:11 pm, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am
  the output from dmesg looks something like this
-
  Huge snip
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Greg
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 15:33, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:02 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 13:13, Aron Smith wrote:
   I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am
   the output from dmesg looks something like this
 
   Thanks in advance
   smitty
 
  Are you running xinetd, if so why, and what other services do you have
  running.  Also are you updated to kernel 2.4.22-30mdk ?
 Using kernel 2.6
 here is output from  top
 ---
 9449 root  25   0  2172 1048 1964 R 91.1  0.2   1:11.94 top
  4962 root  15   0 23304  11m  13m S  6.3  1.8 108:31.45 X
  9471 aronsmit  15   0 27956  15m  25m S  2.0  2.5   0:01.19 kdeinit
  6195 aronsmit  15   0 39112  27m  31m S  0.3  4.4   0:06.43 kdeinit
  9506 aronsmit  17   0  2172 1048 1964 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.11 top
 1 root  16   0  1580  516 1424 S  0.0  0.1   0:03.42 init
 2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
 3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.09 events/0
 4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 kblockd/0
 5 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kapmd
 6 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 pdflush
 7 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 pdflush
 8 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kswapd0
 9 root  10 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
11 root  20   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kseriod
15 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 kjournald
   121 root  17   0  2036 1208 1588 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.85 devfsd
   245 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 khubd
   562 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.08 kjournald
   565 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.03 kjournald
   827 root  -2   0  1628 1628 1468 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.03 watchdog
  2755 rpc   15   0  1712  580 1540 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 portmap
  2779 root  16   0  1640  608 1468 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.09 syslogd
  2787 root  15   0  2592 1536 1416 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.16 klogd
  2846 root  18   0  1712  712 1540 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 rpc.statd
  3243 xfs   16   0  5384 3756 2512 S  0.0  0.6   0:00.16 xfs
  3268 root  18   0  1604  540 1448 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hcid
  3279 root  10 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 krfcommd
  4869 root  16   0  1588  536 1428 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 apmd
  4910 root  16   0  2688  692 2504 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 mdkkdm
 --


Why is portmap running?  Are you using NFS?

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Greg
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 03:13, Aron Smith wrote:
 I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am 
 the output from dmesg looks something like this
 -Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0
  
 OUT= MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30226 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=2296 DPT=5554 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=24.202.47.169 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=30480 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=2544 DPT=9898 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=11550 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=83.64.20.224 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=52 TOS=0x10 PREC=0x00 TTL=106 ID=12990 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=4200 DPT=21 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= 
 MAC=00:07:95:fc:2d:40:00:90:1a:40:aa:4d:08:00 SRC=64.78.124.187 
 DST=64.81.53.247 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=112 ID=1830 DF PROTO=TCP 
 SPT=4887 DPT=5000 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] aronsmith]$
 -
 have I been hacked?
 Thanks in advance
 smitty

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Lanman
Asa Rossoff wrote:
The log activity you posted doesn't indicate it.  Those are all network
packets that Shorewall dropped -- that didn't get in.. it's normal to have
this activity, generated either by hackers checking for security holes or
worms and whatnot.
Asa
On Mandrake 9.2, installed on a server which isn't running X, I'm 
getting this exact type of data appearing on my display, even before 
anyone logs onto the server - locally OR remotely!

Is there any way to stop this, or is this a warning that my system's 
been hit? This is a fresh install which I finished this morning, so I'd 
appreciate any thoughts before I start depending on it.

Also, is there a Bind Guru here somewhere? I can't get rndc to 
behave itself. It keeps giving me an error that states -

  rndc: connect failed: connection refused
Even though Bind seems to start up without errors, and even though port 
53 is open on my firewall for DNS authentication, port scans keep 
stating that the port is closed.

This is the first time I've ever had these two problems, and I'm curious 
to find out what's different between this 9.2 install, and the hundreds 
I've done before!

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 18:28, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

Kaj,

Excellent to hear from you again.

 On Thursday 20 May 2004 22:31, Aron Smith wrote:
 
 snip
  Not using NFS purwe linux systen  rieserFS on some partitions
  how can I shut portmap off ?
 /snip
 
 You can stop portmap (or any service) by typing (as root) :
 
 service portmap stop
 
 or don't start it at all. Go to System -- Configuration -- 
 Configure Your Computer -- System -- Services.

Alternatively you can use the excellent command line utility chkconfig
from the command line.  Like this to list all services:

chkconfig --list | sort

(which sorts the list alphabetically for your convenience)

Or like this to unilaterally shut portmap down across all runlevels:

chkconfig --level 2345 portmap off

All from a root console, btw.

 
 And, to return to your original question about the output from 
 dmesg : I have lots of those too. When doing a whois on most of 
 those IP addresses, I see totally unknown hosts from all around the 
 globe with no clue whatsoever about who they are and why they pop 
 up on my humble PC. So, I figure that what we see are all those 
 script-kiddies, worms, viruses and trojans looking for Windows.
 
 Fortunately, it seems that Shorewall stops them all although it 
 doesn't really matter anyway, what with us running linux.
 
 And to Lyvim : Until now, I had xinetd running. What is the downside 
 of stopping it ?
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

OK.  The sole purpose of xinetd is to dynamically start and stop
services that you would not want running on a continual basis.  Such as
ftp, or sshd, or any of the other server type services listed by
chkconfig.  It is supposed to bring the service up on demand and shut it
down when not being used.

On a linux workstation, like mine or yours or most people here, xinetd
is useless because we arent using the box as a server and we are trying
to keep people out rather than letting them in.  Most peeps have cheap
486 or pentium 1 hardware set aside for ftp purposes, and even then alot
of peeps just run ftp or sshd or whatever continuously, instead of using
xinetd to start the service up on demand.  Xinetd had a good idea, which
was to save resources by keeping processes down when not being used, and
calling them up when their port (ftp 21 or sshd 22 for example) is
tapped or knocked on from the outside.

Where xinetd comes in weak is that it is basically a single access point
from which you can start up any internal service inside YOUR machine
from the outside, that has not been specifically denied by the config
files in etc.  In other words, hackers can tap or knock on ports to see
if a service will start up, and then they start checking that service
for version vulnerabilities.  In other words, xinetd is serving no other
purpose than to allow outside people to start up services on YOUR box. 
From the outside.

But it doesn't stop there.  At one time, xinetd was *itself* vulnerable
to DOS attacks.  They have worked on that problem and have corrected it
to some degree, but usually security problems are not endemic of the
code, but of the architecture that the code is written toward. 
Witness:  Sendmail.  Postfix.  Exim.  Check it out in the Bugtraq
archives.  All victims of a self flagellating trend towards single root
run executables when a simple change in architecture (such as the
architecture exhibited by qmail) would be a step in the right
direction.  A root run single executable service such as those above are
nearly always vulnerable to buffer overflow attacks, at some time or
another.

but I digress.  The thing to remember is that if you are on a
workstation, you shouldn't need to run xinetd for the reasons listed. 
And if you *do* need to dynamically activate services, don't use xinetd
to do that, use Dan Bernstein's Tcpserver program, available on Vincent
Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  No vulns that I'm aware of have ever been
detected either in vanilla qmail or tcpserver.

HTH??

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 21:45, Greg wrote:
 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 15:33, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:02 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 13:13, Aron Smith wrote:
I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am
the output from dmesg looks something like this
  
Thanks in advance
smitty
  
   Are you running xinetd, if so why, and what other services do you have
   running.  Also are you updated to kernel 2.4.22-30mdk ?
  Using kernel 2.6
  here is output from  top
  ---
  9449 root  25   0  2172 1048 1964 R 91.1  0.2   1:11.94 top
   4962 root  15   0 23304  11m  13m S  6.3  1.8 108:31.45 X
   9471 aronsmit  15   0 27956  15m  25m S  2.0  2.5   0:01.19 kdeinit
   6195 aronsmit  15   0 39112  27m  31m S  0.3  4.4   0:06.43 kdeinit
   9506 aronsmit  17   0  2172 1048 1964 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.11 top
  1 root  16   0  1580  516 1424 S  0.0  0.1   0:03.42 init
  2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
  3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.09 events/0
  4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 kblockd/0
  5 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kapmd
  6 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 pdflush
  7 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 pdflush
  8 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kswapd0
  9 root  10 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
 11 root  20   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kseriod
 15 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 kjournald
121 root  17   0  2036 1208 1588 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.85 devfsd
245 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 khubd
562 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.08 kjournald
565 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.03 kjournald
827 root  -2   0  1628 1628 1468 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.03 watchdog
   2755 rpc   15   0  1712  580 1540 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 portmap
   2779 root  16   0  1640  608 1468 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.09 syslogd
   2787 root  15   0  2592 1536 1416 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.16 klogd
   2846 root  18   0  1712  712 1540 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 rpc.statd
   3243 xfs   16   0  5384 3756 2512 S  0.0  0.6   0:00.16 xfs
   3268 root  18   0  1604  540 1448 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hcid
   3279 root  10 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 krfcommd
   4869 root  16   0  1588  536 1428 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 apmd
   4910 root  16   0  2688  692 2504 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 mdkkdm
  --
 
 
 Why is portmap running?  Are you using NFS?
 
 LX
 
 
 
  What is portmap and should it be running 
 Greg

It's a service generally used for NFS and for some reason is enabled by
default on Mandrake installs; I don't use NFS, I tend to use samba more;
I think the aussies have made it more secure than NFS.  Portmap uses the
rpc protocol, which is notoriously insecure and notoriously famous with
crackers for being entryways into unsecured boxes.  Especially since
portmap is enabled BY DEFAULT on Mandrake boxes.

If you don't run NFS, shut it down on all runlevels.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Greg
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 21:45, Greg wrote:
 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 15:33, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:02 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 13:13, Aron Smith wrote:
I have been getting a *Lot8 of disk activity  around 7:00 am
the output from dmesg looks something like this
  
Thanks in advance
smitty
  
   Are you running xinetd, if so why, and what other services do you have
   running.  Also are you updated to kernel 2.4.22-30mdk ?
  Using kernel 2.6
  here is output from  top
  ---
  9449 root  25   0  2172 1048 1964 R 91.1  0.2   1:11.94 top
   4962 root  15   0 23304  11m  13m S  6.3  1.8 108:31.45 X
   9471 aronsmit  15   0 27956  15m  25m S  2.0  2.5   0:01.19 kdeinit
   6195 aronsmit  15   0 39112  27m  31m S  0.3  4.4   0:06.43 kdeinit
   9506 aronsmit  17   0  2172 1048 1964 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.11 top
  1 root  16   0  1580  516 1424 S  0.0  0.1   0:03.42 init
  2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
  3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.09 events/0
  4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 kblockd/0
  5 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kapmd
  6 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 pdflush
  7 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 pdflush
  8 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kswapd0
  9 root  10 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
 11 root  20   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kseriod
 15 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 kjournald
121 root  17   0  2036 1208 1588 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.85 devfsd
245 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 khubd
562 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.08 kjournald
565 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.03 kjournald
827 root  -2   0  1628 1628 1468 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.03 watchdog
   2755 rpc   15   0  1712  580 1540 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 portmap
   2779 root  16   0  1640  608 1468 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.09 syslogd
   2787 root  15   0  2592 1536 1416 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.16 klogd
   2846 root  18   0  1712  712 1540 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 rpc.statd
   3243 xfs   16   0  5384 3756 2512 S  0.0  0.6   0:00.16 xfs
   3268 root  18   0  1604  540 1448 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hcid
   3279 root  10 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 krfcommd
   4869 root  16   0  1588  536 1428 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 apmd
   4910 root  16   0  2688  692 2504 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 mdkkdm
  --
 
 
 Why is portmap running?  Are you using NFS?
 
 LX
 
 
 
  What is portmap and should it be running 
 Greg

It's a service generally used for NFS and for some reason is enabled by
default on Mandrake installs; I don't use NFS, I tend to use samba more;
I think the aussies have made it more secure than NFS.  Portmap uses the
rpc protocol, which is notoriously insecure and notoriously famous with
crackers for being entryways into unsecured boxes.  Especially since
portmap is enabled BY DEFAULT on Mandrake boxes.

If you don't run NFS, shut it down on all runlevels.

LX



So how do I shut down all run levels and even know if they are running I did not see 
it in top  Just what should be running for a basic linux box 
I may have some weak spots in my system and I want to find them before some one else 
does
Thanks Greg

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 22:23, Lanman wrote:
 Asa Rossoff wrote:
 
  The log activity you posted doesn't indicate it.  Those are all network
  packets that Shorewall dropped -- that didn't get in.. it's normal to have
  this activity, generated either by hackers checking for security holes or
  worms and whatnot.
  
  Asa
 
 On Mandrake 9.2, installed on a server which isn't running X, I'm 
 getting this exact type of data appearing on my display, even before 
 anyone logs onto the server - locally OR remotely!
 

As a matter of fact, when I saw Aron's output on the screen, that's
exactly what I thought was happening, because I have had the exact same
experience as yourself.  On a firewall (pre-update) running the secure
kernel (the first release) I started seeing shorewall output on either
the first or second consoles.  Usually you are supposed to be able to do
alt-F12 and get this information (F12 console is set aside for that
purpose by default), but the information for some reason started being
shunted to the first or second consoles on my firewall.

This occurred after some heavy scanning of my box from the net, which
led me to believe that someone was exploiting a buffer overflow vuln in
the early 9.2 kernels.  This was unlikely, given that I was using the
secure kernel, but I had no other explanation.

 Is there any way to stop this, or is this a warning that my system's 
 been hit? This is a fresh install which I finished this morning, so I'd 
 appreciate any thoughts before I start depending on it.

My problem was corrected when I updated to the latest slew of updates
and also replaced the secure kernel with the latest version.  have not
seen that problem since then.

Aron should know though,that if he does see this kind of output on a
console screen (usually one that's logged in) he should start to worry.


 
 Also, is there a Bind Guru here somewhere? I can't get rndc to 
 behave itself. It keeps giving me an error that states -
 
rndc: connect failed: connection refused
 
 Even though Bind seems to start up without errors, and even though port 
 53 is open on my firewall for DNS authentication, port scans keep 
 stating that the port is closed.


You're running shorewall on the firewall, correct?  ;)  I've been
encountering the same problems with both qmail and bind.

 
 This is the first time I've ever had these two problems, and I'm curious 
 to find out what's different between this 9.2 install, and the hundreds 
 I've done before!
 
 TIA
 
 Lanman
 

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:

 
 If you don't run NFS, shut it down on all runlevels.
 
 LX
 
 
 
 So how do I shut down all run levels and even know if they are running
 I did not see it in top  Just what should be running for a basic linux
 box 
 I may have some weak spots in my system and I want to find them before
 some one else does
 Thanks Greg

Find services that are enabled and put them in alphabet order:

chkconfig --list  | sort

Disable services on all runlevels that are resource hogs, security
risks, and not needed for workstation purposes:

chkconfig --level 2345 portmap off

Enable service that you disabled by mistake or that you just want on:

chkconfig --level 2345 yourservice on

Learn about the chkconfig command:

man chkconfig


HTH

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Lanman
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
My problem was corrected when I updated to the latest slew of updates
and also replaced the secure kernel with the latest version.  have not
seen that problem since then.
Lyvim; How ya doin' Buddy? I found another way to fix the problem. Can 
you say Bastille? Killed Shorewall, copied over my Bastille files, ran 
the command and voila! No more shorewall data on my console, and the 
firewall is running fine (actually runs a bit faster)!

Also, is there a Bind Guru here somewhere? I can't get rndc to 
behave itself. It keeps giving me an error that states -

  rndc: connect failed: connection refused
Even though Bind seems to start up without errors, and even though port 
53 is open on my firewall for DNS authentication, port scans keep 
stating that the port is closed.

You're running shorewall on the firewall, correct?  ;)  I've been
encountering the same problems with both qmail and bind.
LX
RNDC problem is still happening though. Because of that, my DNS server 
still appears closed in a firewall scan. I checked at Bind's website, 
and they say that it's usually due to silly things like the server's 
hostname ( mine's good ), or the fact that there's no rndc-key located 
in named.conf or rndc.conf ( which is there in both files on this 
machine), so I'm not sure what to do. The DNS port is open on the 
firewall, but the service is not fully starting. The funny thing is that 
my email server (postfix) runs like a charm, and so does everything else.

So right now, it's more of an annoyance than anything, but I'd like to 
solve it. Still open to suggestions.

Lanman

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Greg
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:

 
 If you don't run NFS, shut it down on all runlevels.
 
 LX
 
 
 
 So how do I shut down all run levels and even know if they are running
 I did not see it in top  Just what should be running for a basic linux
 box 
 I may have some weak spots in my system and I want to find them before
 some one else does
 Thanks Greg

Find services that are enabled and put them in alphabet order:

chkconfig --list  | sort

Disable services on all runlevels that are resource hogs, security
risks, and not needed for workstation purposes:

chkconfig --level 2345 portmap off

Enable service that you disabled by mistake or that you just want on:

chkconfig --level 2345 yourservice on

Learn about the chkconfig command:

man chkconfig


HTH

LX



Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-20 Thread Len Lawrence
On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:27:33 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg) wrote:

 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:
 - snip -
 Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
 Greg
 

You could try /usr/sbin/net_monitor.
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