Re: [newbie] Strange behavior in 9.1betas
On Sunday 19 January 2003 02:46 pm, Charlie wrote: more surgical snips. with a broad-axe BTW I have one empty 30 GB (Reiser FS formatted) partition called /store available on hdb. Would that be more appropriate? Since I'm going to mirror the entirety of cooker it may become useful for someone down the line. No longer an empty partition. It's full of complete mirror of cooker as of 5:45 AM MST. Unfortunately there's a problem which I'll get into later. It certainly is. If you are concerned about you bandwidth and harddrive space you can also make a file (i called it 'ignore.txt') where you list all the packages that you are not interested in downloading. So if you are using it solely as a desktop you can put apache, and other servers in that file and it shall not sync them. Then you have to use the additional switch with rsync: I was so !worried about space and bandwidth that I didn't exclude anything at all. It's a complete copy of what's on sunet.se. rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude-from=/home/nanook/ignore.txt ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 /home/nanook/burn/cooker/ Perfect. Thank you. Onward and sideways. My install is a slight bit broken in some respect and I don't have a clue how to find the problem to file a bug report or fix it. To wit: For some reason my CD-ROM is being identified by harddrake as dev/scd0. It's identified by name but, Bus: SCSI Location on the bus: 0:0 Channel: 00 New devfs device: scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd Old device file: /dev/scd0 Floppy format: LITEON CD-ROM LTN403L Media class: cdrom is in no way correct. There's no scsi interface in this box and I clicked no at the installer question. To try to figure out whether it was a hardware problem I actually re-installed Mandrake 9.0 in a different hard drive and there was no trouble. In fact fstab has what seems to be correct listings for the CD-ROM and my CD-RW (Mitsumi CR-4804 TE) which is connected and jumpered as slave on the second IDE channel with the LiteOn. The only clue I have is this one: Vendor: Intel Corporation Bus: PCI Bus identification: 8086:7111 Location on the bus: 0:7:1 Description: 82371AB PIIX4 IDE Module: unknown Media class: STORAGE_IDE I don't know if this is a harddrake problem, a devfs problem, or both. The whole point here is that I can't update through urpmi or Software Manager since the CD-1 is not enabled error happens no matter what I do. Does anyone have a hint? I'll send an edited copy of this to the cooker list and take the ragging or ignoring I know will result, but I can't make a useful bug report or help analyze the trouble if I don't know where the hell to start looking. Thanks for any suggestions offered. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org How can you govern a nation which has 246 kinds of cheese? -- Charles de Gaulle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange behavior in 9.1betas
On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:17 am, Sascha Noyes wrote: On Sunday 19 January 2003 12:43 pm, Charlie wrote: snip Questions: how do I sync a directory to cooker and use that instead of software manager from a mirror? If I get the latest update packages maybe everything will start to work. In the alternative how would I force the beta2 DHCP to start resolving names from my ISP's servers on this _stand alone_ machine? beta2 solved some of the glitches in beta1 but broke the networking for me. Doing an upgrade install of beta2 over what I have right now won't work. I tried it. First of all, you are reporting the bugs you find to bugzilla (https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/) aren't you? As soon as I figure out what the devil they are I will. g If I don't actually identify what's broken/glitchy/needs to be fixed for compatibility in my hardware environment it won't help the developers anyway. Bug reports without information are a waste of bandwidth and drive space; aren't they? At least bugs that aren't already reported; those I'll just try to vote for if they're affecting my system too. Yeah, I do check bugzilla. For syncing the cooker tree to my local harddrive i use the following command: rsync -avrt --progress --delete ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 /home/lusr/burn/cooker/ Extreme thanks Sasha! So in /home I need a /lusr directory (Short for linux user? Or what sysadmins and developers seem to think of end users like me?) a burn directory (seems obvious; mkcd blah blah blah etc) and the /cooker directory that I'm syncing? No trouble. /home (a common partition) now has 18.6 GB to play in and I'm nowhere near the download bandwidth cap from my ISP. Am I adding a user called lusr (whatever) or just making directories in my /home or /home/nanook? Either is fine, I just don't want to screw the pooch here. BTW I have one empty 30 GB (Reiser FS formatted) partition called /store available on hdb. Would that be more appropriate? Since I'm going to mirror the entirety of cooker it may become useful for someone down the line. For the contrib RPMs use the following command: rsync -avrt --progress --delete ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/ /home/lusr/burn/contrib/i586/ To add this repository to your urpmi list: urpmi.addmedia cooker /home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz And a similar command for the contrib RPMS if you download those as well. The easy part but thanks. I would probably have forgotten how to do it at first. Kind of pointless if I don't sync for contribs though, isn't it? That's where the toys are. :-) Sascha Noyes -- Please encrypt all correspondence. (not to a mailing list I won't) PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc So (last stupid gnubie question I hope) I can add the sync to cron and have it done automagically. How please? I'm off to Google for an answer for this one. Thank you again. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Stan and I thought that this experiment was so stupid, we decided to finance it ourselves. -- Martin Fleischmann, co-discoverer of room-temperature fusion (?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange behavior in 9.1betas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 January 2003 02:26 pm, Charlie wrote: For syncing the cooker tree to my local harddrive i use the following command: rsync -avrt --progress --delete ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 /home/lusr/burn/cooker/ Extreme thanks Sasha! So in /home I need a /lusr directory (Short for linux user? Or what sysadmins and developers seem to think of end users like me?) a burn directory (seems obvious; mkcd blah blah blah etc) and the /cooker directory that I'm syncing? No trouble. /home (a common partition) now has 18.6 GB to play in and I'm nowhere near the download bandwidth cap from my ISP. Am I adding a user called lusr (whatever) or just making directories in my /home or /home/nanook? Either is fine, I just don't want to screw the pooch here. BTW I have one empty 30 GB (Reiser FS formatted) partition called /store available on hdb. Would that be more appropriate? Since I'm going to mirror the entirety of cooker it may become useful for someone down the line. No, don't add any user. /home/lusr/burn/cooker/ is simply where I want to keep my local mirror of cooker. Sorry, I neglected to mention to simply substitute the path for whatever path you want to store the files under. So for you that would probably be /home/nanook/[anydir], or if you want to keep it in /store/[anydir] that is also fine. It just depends on which harddrive/partition you want to store the files. My user name (lusr) is just me trying to be funny. ;-) For the contrib RPMs use the following command: rsync -avrt --progress --delete ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/ /home/lusr/burn/contrib/i586/ To add this repository to your urpmi list: urpmi.addmedia cooker /home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz And a similar command for the contrib RPMS if you download those as well. The easy part but thanks. I would probably have forgotten how to do it at first. Kind of pointless if I don't sync for contribs though, isn't it? That's where the toys are. :-) It certainly is. If you are concerned about you bandwidth and harddrive space you can also make a file (i called it 'ignore.txt') where you list all the packages that you are not interested in downloading. So if you are using it solely as a desktop you can put apache, and other servers in that file and it shall not sync them. Then you have to use the additional switch with rsync: - --exclude-from=/home/nanook/ignore.txt The whole thing would then look like this: rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude-from=/home/nanook/ignore.txt ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 /home/nanook/burn/cooker/ Good luck, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Kwb0gzJdfX+cTW8RAgxbAJ9Y5FEu84NXD+XBHFNQac/FtukrjQCeMMqZ OtSIes4acm/kAaSJZhl6wno= =Oh0g -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange behavior in 9.1betas
On Sunday 19 January 2003 01:13 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: surgical snips. with a broad axe Am I adding a user called lusr (whatever) or just making directories in my /home or /home/nanook? Either is fine, I just don't want to screw the pooch here. BTW I have one empty 30 GB (Reiser FS formatted) partition called /store available on hdb. Would that be more appropriate? Since I'm going to mirror the entirety of cooker it may become useful for someone down the line. No, don't add any user. /home/lusr/burn/cooker/ is simply where I want to keep my local mirror of cooker. Sorry, I neglected to mention to simply substitute the path for whatever path you want to store the files under. So for you that would probably be /home/nanook/[anydir], or if you want to keep it in /store/[anydir] that is also fine. It just depends on which harddrive/partition you want to store the files. My user name (lusr) is just me trying to be funny. ;-) I thought it was amusing, that's why I made the smart a$$ comments about it. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was the way it should be but wasn't positive and screw ups drive me nuts when I'm the instigator. The easy part but thanks. I would probably have forgotten how to do it at first. Kind of pointless if I don't sync for contribs though, isn't it? That's where the toys are. :-) It certainly is. If you are concerned about you bandwidth and harddrive space you can also make a file (i called it 'ignore.txt') where you list all the packages that you are not interested in downloading. So if you are using it solely as a desktop you can put apache, and other servers in that file and it shall not sync them. Then you have to use the additional switch with rsync: Last I looked (about five minutes ago) I was only using a total of roughly 11 GB out of 240. I don't think I'll run out any time soon. :-) --exclude-from=/home/nanook/ignore.txt The whole thing would then look like this: rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude-from=/home/nanook/ignore.txt ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 /home/nanook/burn/cooker/ Perfect. Thank you. Good luck, Sascha Noyes BTW I figured out how to make 9.1beta2 work with my RealTek 10/100 NIC and Shaw Cable's domain servers by reading the cooker list. Before doing the upgrade install and not picking any packages I downloaded the latest initscripts, ran dhcpcd eth0 from console, installed the upgraded initscripts and rebooted. I'm sitting in 9.1beta2 right now. Don't ya love it when a plan comes together? g Thanks again Sasha. I'll set the rsync tonight so it can do it's thing while I watch my Sunday night few hours of boob tube. :) Warmest regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org To whom the mornings are like nights, What must the midnights be! -- Emily Dickinson (on hacking?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
