Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-27 Thread Randy Kramer

skinky wrote:
 I dont even know what a wiki or TWiki is!  I know you've mentioned this
 several times on list for other reasons but never got around to looking it up
 - although I've been to your site a few times.

In case it's not clear, my site is a wiki (TWiki).  Anyone who registers
can edit any of the existing pages or create new pages.  Editing uses a
simple markup language, but you can start by just entering plain text. 
Anyone can read and search the site.  Hope that gives you an overview.

Randy Kramer

 
 BTW, your instructions at your site on rsyncing a large file certainly
 prevented me from tearing ALL of my hair out a day or two ago.  Don't think I
 would have figured that one without help! Thanks Randy and others who
 contributed!

You're welcome -- glad it helped -- that's the intent!



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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-27 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Randy Kramer wrote:
 %_skinky wrote:
  I dont even know what a wiki or TWiki is!  I know you've mentioned this
  several times on list for other reasons but never got around to looking it up
  - although I've been to your site a few times.
 
 In case it's not clear, my site is a wiki (TWiki).  Anyone who registers
 can edit any of the existing pages or create new pages.  Editing uses a
 simple markup language, but you can start by just entering plain text. 
 Anyone can read and search the site.  Hope that gives you an overview.
 
 Randy Kramer
 
  
  BTW, your instructions at your site on rsyncing a large file certainly
  prevented me from tearing ALL of my hair out a day or two ago.  Don't think I
  would have figured that one without help! Thanks Randy and others who
  contributed!
 
 You're welcome -- glad it helped -- that's the intent!

Where are these instructions for rsync?

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Fwd: RE: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-27 Thread skinky

Was sent to me but I'm not the programmer  ; )

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Subject: RE: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:46:35 +0100
From: Baka Attila Tamás [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some programs I need

A GOOD CD burning program   :-)

I want something like Nero 5!!!  With real time CD copy without making
an image, and I also want to be able to set the speed for each burn. The GUI
should be over simplified (like in burncenter) with process bars etc...

And I want to overburn CD's and I don't want the program to stop burning a
730MB avi if I use a 700MB disc, because it can be burnt...!

I found only burncenter and cdbakeoven usable in linux

BAT


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Subject: Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

On 27 Mar 2002 14:19, Randy Kramer wrote:
 skinky wrote:
  Sorry for the LATE reply... WAY behind with my email...
 
  For quite some time I've been looking for a diary/journal that contains
  daily entries with a search facility on say a subject heading or just be
  able to search all text.  Kinda like the journal part of KOrganizer but
  searchable.

 Have you considered a wiki, specifically TWiki?  See, for example,
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources and click on
 search and edit (successively -- i.e., go back to the page after you do
 a search and try an edit).

 Then try http://twiki.org.

 You could install a wiki (TWiki) locally for your own use.

 Randy Kramer

I dont even know what a wiki or TWiki is!  I know you've mentioned this
several times on list for other reasons but never got around to looking it
up
- although I've been to your site a few times.

BTW, your instructions at your site on rsyncing a large file certainly
prevented me from tearing ALL of my hair out a day or two ago.  Don't think
I
would have figured that one without help! Thanks Randy and others who
contributed!

Anyways, sounds like a wiki could solve my journal/diary problems.  Looks
like I'll be reading a lot tonight  ; ).   Thanks again.
skinky
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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-26 Thread skinky

On 17 Mar 2002 12:52, Nelson Bartley wrote:
 Heyo,

 I've begun to develop an insterest in Linux programming and I was
 wondering what applications, you as the linux beginner, are looking for?

 Setup files, scripts, GUI programs, anything, as I'm interested in
 trying my hand at it.

 Nelson Bartley
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sorry for the LATE reply... WAY behind with my email...

For quite some time I've been looking for a diary/journal that contains daily 
entries with a search facility on say a subject heading or just be able to  
search all text.  Kinda like the journal part of KOrganizer but searchable.  

I've downloaded about 15 apps but none have the search feature while still 
browseable/entered daily.  So for now I use KOrganizer journal and have to 
flick thru each day to find what I'm looking for - the problem being I've 
been using it since October last year, thats a lot of entries to hunt thru : (

I use it solely for keeping a record of how I fix/configure linux since I 
have a habit of later forgetting how I had fixed something.

I figured that I'm going to have to learn to program (only used crappy VB a 
while back) to write the app myself so I've started learning python (to start 
with).

How 'bout it?

skinky
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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-26 Thread Randy Kramer

skinky wrote:
 Sorry for the LATE reply... WAY behind with my email...
 
 For quite some time I've been looking for a diary/journal that contains daily
 entries with a search facility on say a subject heading or just be able to
 search all text.  Kinda like the journal part of KOrganizer but searchable.

Have you considered a wiki, specifically TWiki?  See, for example,
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources and click on
search and edit (successively -- i.e., go back to the page after you do
a search and try an edit).

Then try http://twiki.org.

You could install a wiki (TWiki) locally for your own use.

Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-26 Thread Randy Kramer

PS: Each page could be named something like: Journal20020326.

Randy Kramer

Randy Kramer wrote:
 
 skinky wrote:
  Sorry for the LATE reply... WAY behind with my email...
 
  For quite some time I've been looking for a diary/journal that contains daily
  entries with a search facility on say a subject heading or just be able to
  search all text.  Kinda like the journal part of KOrganizer but searchable.
 
 Have you considered a wiki, specifically TWiki?  See, for example,
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources and click on
 search and edit (successively -- i.e., go back to the page after you do
 a search and try an edit).
 
 Then try http://twiki.org.
 
 You could install a wiki (TWiki) locally for your own use.
 
 Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-26 Thread skinky

On 27 Mar 2002 14:19, Randy Kramer wrote:
 skinky wrote:
  Sorry for the LATE reply... WAY behind with my email...
 
  For quite some time I've been looking for a diary/journal that contains
  daily entries with a search facility on say a subject heading or just be
  able to search all text.  Kinda like the journal part of KOrganizer but
  searchable.

 Have you considered a wiki, specifically TWiki?  See, for example,
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources and click on
 search and edit (successively -- i.e., go back to the page after you do
 a search and try an edit).

 Then try http://twiki.org.

 You could install a wiki (TWiki) locally for your own use.

 Randy Kramer


I dont even know what a wiki or TWiki is!  I know you've mentioned this 
several times on list for other reasons but never got around to looking it up 
- although I've been to your site a few times.

BTW, your instructions at your site on rsyncing a large file certainly 
prevented me from tearing ALL of my hair out a day or two ago.  Don't think I 
would have figured that one without help! Thanks Randy and others who 
contributed!

Anyways, sounds like a wiki could solve my journal/diary problems.  Looks 
like I'll be reading a lot tonight  ; ).   Thanks again. 
skinky
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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread Michael

Femme: Have a look at this online book/tutorial. See if it helps.

http://rute.sourceforge.net/rute.html

Michael

FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 scripts definitely... and an EZ tutorial on how to write them...
 
 I've read a book, seen some tutorials...but they assume you *have
 knowledge* that as a newbie, we lack by virtue of our apple greeness. ;)
 
 Please if you do go ahead, I know I'd appreciate something like that...
 Or hell, a URL to something that does exist.
 
 I tried the advanced BASH scripting program...its useless.  It assumes
 you do have some idea of programming.  Something I personally, don't
 have atm. :(
 
 Femme
 
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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread Robin Turner

On Sunday 17 March 2002 05:50, FemmeFatale wrote:
 scripts definitely... and an EZ tutorial on how to write them...

 I've read a book, seen some tutorials...but they assume you *have
 knowledge* that as a newbie, we lack by virtue of our apple
 greeness. ;)

 Please if you do go ahead, I know I'd appreciate something like
 that... Or hell, a URL to something that does exist.

 I tried the advanced BASH scripting program...its useless.  It
 assumes you do have some idea of programming.  Something I
 personally, don't have atm. :(

Try
http://www.csd.uu.se/~matkin/documents/shell/

(just came across this while looking for a way to strip whitespace 
from filenames!)

Robin

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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread Nelson Bartley

as a general rule, if you are going to be doing any form of scripting
you have to have a basic understanding of how programing works.

Understanding concepts such as flow control, the basic operators, what
types of data you can store, these are all required to do scripting (in
any real sense).

But back to the original topic, what PROGRAMS or SCRIPTS do you feel are
missing that you would like to have?

On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:26, Michael wrote:
 Femme: Have a look at this online book/tutorial. See if it helps.
 
 http://rute.sourceforge.net/rute.html
 
 Michael
 
 FemmeFatale wrote:
  
  scripts definitely... and an EZ tutorial on how to write them...
  
  I've read a book, seen some tutorials...but they assume you *have
  knowledge* that as a newbie, we lack by virtue of our apple greeness. ;)
  
  Please if you do go ahead, I know I'd appreciate something like that...
  Or hell, a URL to something that does exist.
  
  I tried the advanced BASH scripting program...its useless.  It assumes
  you do have some idea of programming.  Something I personally, don't
  have atm. :(
  
  Femme
  
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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread rob

FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 scripts definitely... and an EZ tutorial on how to write them...
 
 I've read a book, seen some tutorials...but they assume you *have
 knowledge* that as a newbie, we lack by virtue of our apple greeness. ;)
 
 Please if you do go ahead, I know I'd appreciate something like that...
 Or hell, a URL to something that does exist.
 
 I tried the advanced BASH scripting program...its useless.  It assumes
 you do have some idea of programming.  Something I personally, don't
 have atm. :(
 
 Femme
 
 Nelson Bartley wrote:
 
  Heyo,
 
  I've begun to develop an insterest in Linux programming and I was
  wondering what applications, you as the linux beginner, are looking for?
 
  Setup files, scripts, GUI programs, anything, as I'm interested in
  trying my hand at it.
 
  Nelson Bartley
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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I've found the best books on shell scripting are the O'Reilly books. 
There is one for bash, csh, korn, etc.  Another book called Unix Power
Tools is really good.  I has literally thousands of scripting examples,
and source on cdrom.  That one is an O'Reilly book also.  Rob.



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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread David Crouse

It may seem silly --since there are so many linux editors out 
there but I am looking for an editor (text/html) with similar 
features to NoteTabPro  (www.notetab.com) ... I have tried Quanta and 
Bluefish  (Bluefish is the closest to it but lacks a few 
features...but is the best replacement I have found so far)

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Running Mandrake 8.1
IBM Intellistation E Pro
450 mghz 750 mb ram

On Saturday 16 March 2002 06:52 pm, you wrote:
 Heyo,

 I've begun to develop an insterest in Linux programming and I was
 wondering what applications, you as the linux beginner, are looking
 for?

 Setup files, scripts, GUI programs, anything, as I'm interested in
 trying my hand at it.

 Nelson Bartley
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread FemmeFatale

Dear Nelson,

No I don't need to learn to program.  Sorry to be so blunt, but
frankly I have zero interest in programming beyond a very basic level. 

I edit scripts for games (used to anyway nearly everyday) and it IS very
close to programming in a  sense.  The difference is if I want an alias
function *same as a linux alias basically* Or something more complex
than say:

bind key weapon 6; say_team HELP I'm under fire!
 
I ask some programming friends.  To be honest, I just want to be able to
edit scripts in linux w/out screwing them up.  And if I do, I need to be
able to figure out how to un-edit them properly.

So to that end I'm trying to gain an understanding of how to use a shell
properly while still logged in to Xwindow, as an example.

*As an aside, I have fubared my sys enough so I couldn't login to
Xwindow.  Had to login  a shell prompt  Unfubar my script for video
I'd edited on the advice of a tutorial.*

Anyway I hope that clarifies the issue.  Frankly, I'm just lost with
scripts  function calls. :(

Femme

Nelson Bartley wrote:
 
 as a general rule, if you are going to be doing any form of scripting
 you have to have a basic understanding of how programing works.
 
 Understanding concepts such as flow control, the basic operators, what
 types of data you can store, these are all required to do scripting (in
 any real sense).
 
 But back to the original topic, what PROGRAMS or SCRIPTS do you feel are
 missing that you would like to have?



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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread Michael

David: emacs or Xemacs would have more than the power you wish. Just dont expect
it to be intuitive and don't expect to be able to harness that power this week.
On the plus side, the Xemacs/emacs version that comes with Mandrake has a full
newbie tutorial and an elisp HTML editor (i had to download the HTML for my
MDK7.1)

Nobody would write a NoteTabPro clone for Linux and only the original author
could be expected to.

Michael

David Crouse wrote:
 
 It may seem silly --since there are so many linux editors out
 there but I am looking for an editor (text/html) with similar
 features to NoteTabPro  (www.notetab.com) ... I have tried Quanta and
 Bluefish  (Bluefish is the closest to it but lacks a few
 features...but is the best replacement I have found so far)
 
 --
 Dave Crouse
 www.iowawebmasters.com
 Running Mandrake 8.1
 IBM Intellistation E Pro
 450 mghz 750 mb ram
 

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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread David Crouse

I have talked to Eric Fookes (NoteTabPro Creator) a few times about 
writing a Linux version. It is now possiblebut that isn't 
going to happen for linux until he feels it can produce a viable 
income from it. which at the current time he does not.

I don't blame him at all as far as free software goes, he has 
already given a great deal in Note Tab Light (for windows). A very 
nice fellow just wish he was more into Linux...  :)

I like BlueFish  just would like more features added (plus it 
has a tendancy to crash once in a while). but all in all it is a 
nice editor. I have looked at xEmacs.. but it isn't the most user 
friendly tool available.. same with vim / Gedit / and Kate 
 but like I said .. BlueFish isn't badQuantra isn't 
too bad either and the others are probably fine editors if you wish 
to learn the keyboard shortcuts etc( I just havent had tons 
of free time yet.)

NoteTabPro and NoteTabLight have a clip tool/editor that is a great 
time saver.. I code Html and Javascript and a small amount of 
perl by hand and love doing thatbut sometimes repetitive code 
can be QUICKLY set up with the clip tool they have.

I will look into Xemacs more. maybe if I read alot more about 
it... ?  :)

I don't think making a program intuitive is an unreasonable 
request.. however I concede that what may be inuitive to one 
person may not be intuitive to another.  The learning curve for some 
parts of LInux is steep.. yet some parts are easy. I just 
need to get my feet wet with the editors more.

*
Nelson Bartley asked

I've begun to develop an insterest in Linux programming and I was
wondering what applications, you as the linux beginner, are looking 
for?

Setup files, scripts, GUI programs, anything, as I'm interested in
trying my hand at it.


I was giving him my honest answer the lack of an editor that 
performs the tasks I need is the ONLY thing keeping a windows 
partition on it I love Gimp/Gftp/Gqview/Opera   . 
they are AS GOOD AS or BETTER than the windows counterparts. and 
the last hurdle for me is the scanner and the Text/Html editor. 


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On Sunday 17 March 2002 06:14 pm, you wrote:
 David: emacs or Xemacs would have more than the power you wish.
 Just dont expect it to be intuitive and don't expect to be able to
 harness that power this week. On the plus side, the Xemacs/emacs
 version that comes with Mandrake has a full newbie tutorial and an
 elisp HTML editor (i had to download the HTML for my MDK7.1)

 Nobody would write a NoteTabPro clone for Linux and only the
 original author could be expected to.

 Michael

 David Crouse wrote:
  It may seem silly --since there are so many linux editors out
  there but I am looking for an editor (text/html) with
  similar features to NoteTabPro  (www.notetab.com) ... I have
  tried Quanta and Bluefish  (Bluefish is the closest to it
  but lacks a few features...but is the best replacement I have
  found so far)
 
  --
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  Running Mandrake 8.1
  IBM Intellistation E Pro
  450 mghz 750 mb ram




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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread Andrewd

Maybe someone could look at getting NoteTabPro to work with WINE



I have talked to Eric Fookes (NoteTabPro Creator) a few times about 
writing a Linux version. It is now possiblebut that isn't 
going to happen for linux until he feels it can produce a viable 
income from it. which at the current time he does not.

I don't blame him at all as far as free software goes, he has 
already given a great deal in Note Tab Light (for windows). A very 
nice fellow just wish he was more into Linux...  :)



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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-17 Thread Bo Rosén

mån 2002-03-18 klockan 01.14 skrev Michael:

Personally, I'm quite fond of Glimmer a pretty advanced editor for Gnome
with tabs and highligting and stuff.While its not quite in the same
leauge as Emacs (or Vi I hasten to add) its easier to use.
http://glimmer.sourceforge.net 

Cheers,
Bo

 David: emacs or Xemacs would have more than the power you wish. Just dont expect
 it to be intuitive and don't expect to be able to harness that power this week.





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Re: [newbie] What programs are you looking for?

2002-03-16 Thread FemmeFatale

scripts definitely... and an EZ tutorial on how to write them...

I've read a book, seen some tutorials...but they assume you *have
knowledge* that as a newbie, we lack by virtue of our apple greeness. ;)

Please if you do go ahead, I know I'd appreciate something like that...
Or hell, a URL to something that does exist.

I tried the advanced BASH scripting program...its useless.  It assumes
you do have some idea of programming.  Something I personally, don't
have atm. :(

Femme

Nelson Bartley wrote:
 
 Heyo,
 
 I've begun to develop an insterest in Linux programming and I was
 wondering what applications, you as the linux beginner, are looking for?
 
 Setup files, scripts, GUI programs, anything, as I'm interested in
 trying my hand at it.
 
 Nelson Bartley
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   
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