Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-22 Thread Miark
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:50:41 -0500, s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well, I don't recall all the technical mumbo jumbo as it was explained 
 by Civileme on this list a couple/few years back, but the upshot was 
 something to the effect that the floppy filesystem format was a dos 
 thing and as such it's difficult for ext2 to conform.  

I think what he said is that since DOS was made for the limited capacity
of a floppy, the filesystem yields more space. Or performance, but I
think it was a space thang.

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread s
On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:

 I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of which
 appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.

make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
floppies, even if it's for linux files.  

hth,
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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 8:58 am, s wrote:
 On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
  I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of
  which appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.

 make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.
 fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on
 floppies, even if it's for linux files.

I presume that you would lose the permissions, though?

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread cervixcouch
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:58:49 -0500, s [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
 
  I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of which
  appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
 
 make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
 fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
 floppies, even if it's for linux files.  
 

I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to copy files
to it.

But why does it make a difference?  I formatted my zip drive as ext2 and
it works fine.

And if/since it does make a difference, why is Linux even offered as a
file system option in KFloppy?  In what situations would that work?
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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread Azrael
cervixcouch wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:58:49 -0500, s [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:


I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of which
appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
floppies, even if it's for linux files.  



I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to copy files
to it.
But why does it make a difference?  I formatted my zip drive as ext2 and
it works fine.
And if/since it does make a difference, why is Linux even offered as a
file system option in KFloppy?  In what situations would that work?
It's more the case that linux as an option wouldn't work on a windows 
machine if you wanted to use your files there as well.
Hence use a format that can be accessed from a windows PC should it ever 
be necessary.

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread John Richard Smith
cervixcouch wrote:

This seems like it should be so simple, but it just won't work.

Using 'Gnome Floppy' and 'Floppy Formater' completely hangs my system, so
I've been trying to format a linux floppy so I can save some files.
I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of which
appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.  

I can umount /mnt/floppy then mount /mnt/floppy without a problem.

Yet when I try to copy anything to the floppy, using cp testfile.txt
/mnt/floppy, I get the error message:
cp: cannot stat '/mnt/floppy/testfile.txt':  Input/Output error

What does 'cannot stat' mean? 

What am I doing wrong? 

 

 

try,
mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0   if you want fat32,
or,
mkfs /dev/fd0 if you want ext2 as it's default.
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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread cervixcouch
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:23:05 +0100, Azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 cervixcouch wrote:
  On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:58:49 -0500, s [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  
 On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
 
 
 I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of which
 appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
 
 make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
 fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
 floppies, even if it's for linux files.  
 
  
  
  I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to copy files
  to it.
  
  But why does it make a difference?  I formatted my zip drive as ext2 and
  it works fine.
  
  And if/since it does make a difference, why is Linux even offered as a
  file system option in KFloppy?  In what situations would that work?
 
 It's more the case that linux as an option wouldn't work on a windows 
 machine if you wanted to use your files there as well.
 Hence use a format that can be accessed from a windows PC should it ever 
 be necessary.

I figured as much, as far as a Windows machine goes, but I was only using
Linux machines to try to save to the floppies I'd formatted as Linux
floppies.  I've gotten the same error message on three Linux machines
now.

No biggie.  I can just format them as DOS floppies, but it does seem
silly to need to do so.
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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread s
On Friday 19 September 2003 12:47 pm, cervixcouch wrote:

  I've tried mke2fs /dev/fd0  AND fdformat /dev/fd0 both of
   which appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.

   mounted. fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be
   used on floppies, even if it's for linux files.
  
   I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to
   copy files to it.
  
   But why does it make a difference? 

well, I don't recall all the technical mumbo jumbo as it was explained 
by Civileme on this list a couple/few years back, but the upshot was 
something to the effect that the floppy filesystem format was a dos 
thing and as such it's difficult for ext2 to conform.   Where's Tom 
Brinkman when you need him?  :)  

anyway, I know that ain't much help, but my memory is going...  :)
-s


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