Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:01 pm, AndrewD wrote:
 OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
 but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
 the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
 how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
 somehow.

The problem comes if you don't have the right setting on your burning program, 
so that the iso file is simply copied to disk.  I find k3b to be good in this 
situation, as the setting to use is obvious.  Burning the iso properly 
entails unpacking and burning the result, as I understand it.  Anyway, the 
results are very different from a copied file, and it will be bootable.

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread _nasturtium
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:14 am, AndrewD wrote:
 I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I
 want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need
 to do something else with it first?

 Thanx
Hello,
Compare the md5sum of the ISO image with the one posted on the site you 
downloaded it from.
If the md5sum does not match, then you may have a corrupted ISO image (I 
write may because they may have posted the wrong md5sum!).

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 02:14, AndrewD wrote:
 I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I
 want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need
 to do something else with it first?
 
 Thanx

Short answer: Just burn.

Microsoft Answer: After checking throroughly through the
end-user-license agreement, and after carefully reading through all of
the documentation concerning this application, make sure you have all
the available patches and upgrades prior to initiating the process of
creating an image of the file in question. Should there be legalities
concerning copying the software, or infringement of intellectual
properties, you can contact the Microsoft Piracy website for further
information concerning this issue. If you are able to find that you can
indeed create a copy of the software without any legal issues or
copyright issues, you are going to either have to use Microsoft Windows
XP or Home edition to burn the ISO image - but will need to download and
install the patch/powertool necessary for the identification of ISO
images directly from the Microsoft Update Centre. Once that has been
secured and you've read through the EULA, install the powertool as you
would any other software, and then reboot your workstation. If you are
not running XP or Home Edition, you will have to secure a program
necessary for burning CDR's. Microsoft can recommend several popular
programs such as Adaptec EZ CD Writer and Nero Burning ROM. These can be
purchased either online or through your local computer supplier.

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Chuck Burns
On Sun, January 26 2003 5:29 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
*snip*
 Microsoft Answer: After checking throroughly through the
 end-user-license agreement, and after carefully reading through all of
 the documentation concerning this application, make sure you have all
 the available patches and upgrades prior to initiating the process of
*snip* ...

ROFLMFAO!  Too funny!
The sad thing is.. what he said, while being quite tongue-in-cheek, very 
closely resembles what MS would, indeed, have said to the question.. God I 
hate beauracracies(sp?)...
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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday January 27 2003 09:14 am, AndrewD wrote:
 I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which
 I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do
 I need to do something else with it first?

 Thanx

  If you d/l'd the iso with a browser, even if you didn't, make sure 
you check the integrity of the d/l'd file with 'md5sum'. You can get 
this value from the md5sum txt file from your d/l site. Then,

cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao Linux-distro-filename.iso
^^^
^^^Run 'cdrecord -scanbus' (as root) to check for your dev= numbers.

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Jason Greenwood




Or simply use K3b and use create an ISO from the image.

Cheers

Jason

Tom Brinkman wrote:

  On Monday January 27 2003 09:14 am, AndrewD wrote:
  
  
I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which
I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do
I need to do something else with it first?

Thanx

  
  
  If you d/l'd the iso with a browser, even if you didn't, make sure 
you check the integrity of the d/l'd file with 'md5sum'. You can get 
this value from the md5sum txt file from your d/l site. Then,

cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao Linux-distro-filename.iso
^^^
^^^Run 'cdrecord -scanbus' (as root) to check for your dev= numbers.

  
  

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread AndrewD
OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
somehow.

On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 18:29, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 02:14, AndrewD wrote:
  I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I
  want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need
  to do something else with it first?
  
  Thanx
 
 Short answer: Just burn.
 
 Microsoft Answer: After checking throroughly through the
 end-user-license agreement, and after carefully reading through all of
 the documentation concerning this application, make sure you have all
 the available patches and upgrades prior to initiating the process of
 creating an image of the file in question. Should there be legalities
 concerning copying the software, or infringement of intellectual
 properties, you can contact the Microsoft Piracy website for further
 information concerning this issue. If you are able to find that you can
 indeed create a copy of the software without any legal issues or
 copyright issues, you are going to either have to use Microsoft Windows
 XP or Home edition to burn the ISO image - but will need to download and
 install the patch/powertool necessary for the identification of ISO
 images directly from the Microsoft Update Centre. Once that has been
 secured and you've read through the EULA, install the powertool as you
 would any other software, and then reboot your workstation. If you are
 not running XP or Home Edition, you will have to secure a program
 necessary for burning CDR's. Microsoft can recommend several popular
 programs such as Adaptec EZ CD Writer and Nero Burning ROM. These can be
 purchased either online or through your local computer supplier.



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RE: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Richard Babcock
I've seen a number of posts to this list that indicate the cd is simply a
written copy of the iso. No insult intended but have you used the command
that Tom Brinkman suggested? That should make you a bootable cd. If your
still having problems perhaps your cmos will let you disable the hd as a
bootable device.
R
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 OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
 but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
 the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
 how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
 somehow.



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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:01, AndrewD wrote:
 OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
 but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
 the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
 how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
 somehow.
 

Does the CD with the OS to be installed have a bootdisk creation
utility?

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RE: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread AndrewD
Thats how I originally made the CD from the command line

On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 00:17, Richard Babcock wrote:
 I've seen a number of posts to this list that indicate the cd is simply a
 written copy of the iso. No insult intended but have you used the command
 that Tom Brinkman suggested? That should make you a bootable cd. If your
 still having problems perhaps your cmos will let you disable the hd as a
 bootable device.
 R
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  To: Mandrake Newbie
  Subject: Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
 
 
  OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
  but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
  the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
  how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
  somehow.
 
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread AndrewD
Not sure, how would I know? 

On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 00:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:01, AndrewD wrote:
  OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
  but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
  the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
  how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
  somehow.
  
 
 Does the CD with the OS to be installed have a bootdisk creation
 utility?
 



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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-26 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 09:00, AndrewD wrote:
 Not sure, how would I know? 
 
 On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 00:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:01, AndrewD wrote:
   OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
   but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
   the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
   how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
   somehow.
   
  
  Does the CD with the OS to be installed have a bootdisk creation
  utility?

Somewhere on the CD there should be a directory with floppy images and a
utility called 'rawrite' - you should be able to find some documentation
on how to use this, or how to boot the CD without having the CD
bootable.

BTW, what distro CD is this?

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