Re: [newbie] where to download MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread S. Wieland
if your a club member you can download it on their website... but its 
not organized like 9.1 so i couldn't figure out how
-boardrider

Eko Budiharto wrote:

hi list,
I have been using MDK 9.1. I know there is MDK 9.2, where I can 
download it?



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Re: [newbie] where to download MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread HaywireMac
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:19 +0100
Ken Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I'd wait for the release to be made available to the public. 
 
 The number of problems the club members are having, as can be seen in
 most of the mail and newsgroups. it should all be sorted out before
 the general public have access to the images.

It was the first time they'd done it this way, bittorrent and so on, so
give 'em a break, eh?

 So there you go, you pay to be a club member, and are first in the Que
 to be lumbered with all the new release problems.
 
 They'll probably be on release 9.9 by Xmas the way there churning them
 out.

Seems this is off the mark, no? New release about every six months is
what I've seen.

 Why don't they just concentrate on a creating a stable version, like
 8.1
 
 When they brought out 8.2, there were very few release problems, but
 look at 9.0, 9.1 and now 9.2, major problems had by everybody.

Really? Like what? 9.0 and 9.1 were fine...had nary a problem myself
'cept the good ol' supermount thang, which is apparently fixed in 9.2.

 And 9.2 not being back compatible with the original file systems has
 to be frowned at.

Could you elaborate on that?

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Re: [newbie] where to download MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:53 am, Ken Walker wrote:
 I'd wait for the release to be made available to the public.

 The number of problems the club members are having, as can be
 seen in most of the mail and newsgroups. it should all be sorted
 out before the general public have access to the images.

 6,500 Club members have already d/l'd 9.2. Only a little over 
100 are still d/l'g, and there's as many with complete iso's that 
are still uploading to them.
   http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/

 I did a fresh install of 9.2 a few days ago. Utterly boring, 
absolutely no problems or issues.

There's always gonna be a vocal few that have problems with 
anything.
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Re: [newbie] where to download MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread HaywireMac
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:31:46 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

  I did a fresh install of 9.2 a few days ago. Utterly boring, 
 absolutely no problems or issues.

Good to hear, Tom. I hope you didn't take me the wrong way with the CD
issue thang, but I don't usually like my hardware bein' called junk,
knowwhatimsayin'?

 There's always gonna be a vocal few that have problems with 
 anything.

Amen on that.

BTW, I'm still not finding that blacklist on kernel.org... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] where to download MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:47 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:31:46 -0500

 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   I did a fresh install of 9.2 a few days ago. Utterly
  boring, absolutely no problems or issues.

 Good to hear, Tom. I hope you didn't take me the wrong way with
 the CD issue thang, but I don't usually like my hardware bein'
 called junk, knowwhatimsayin'?

No, unless you made it yourself. 'Junk' is no reflection on you 
other than your choice to buy it, and then only if the info was 
available at the time to avoid it.  Bottom line is, due to hardware 
manufacturer's close cooperation with M$, the continuing 
degradation of hardware quality over the years (also due a lot to 
M$ influence, ie, win-hardware), customer demand for cheaper 
hardware, users willingness to accept hardware that needs closed 
source proprietary drivers to function finding suitable 
hardware for use with Linux is going to continue to be a major 
problem, and often trial'n error.

 BTW, I'm still not finding that blacklist on kernel.org... ;-)

http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20hardware%20blacklistie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8
Should get ya started.

Most distro's also use blacklists. When a particular hardware 
item, or combination is seen, things like DMA for drives is 
disabled, acpi=ht, noapic, work arounds in the various init files, 
etc., are used. Not foolproof, but at least an attempt to 
accommodate all the various hardware combos out there. Problem is a 
lot like Winsux viruses tho. Nothing can be done until after the 
problem has already surfaced and it's too late.

   If more people were willing to d/l and install the cooker betas 
and RC's, then more hardware problems could be solved. Too many 
wait till the last RC, and then it's way too late. Most are afraid 
of betas, but the truth is there is no such thing as a 'final' 
version of Linux (or any OS). Linux has been a work in progress 
ever since Linus released his first kernel. Same holds true for GNU 
software. And specially in regards to hardware, they're chasing a 
moving target. 

BTW, it'll be very interesting to see how a CD can break a 
CDrom. My initial impression is that it's the CDrom drives or it's 
firmwares fault. I suspect the drive's firmware got corrupted by 
somethin it wasn't able or designed to handle. In that case the 
drive should have some kind of self protection, and refuse to read 
the CD. But it does remind me of something I vaguely remember, copy 
protected CD's breaking computer systems some time ago. Even sloppy 
hardware Windoze boxes.
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Re: [newbie] where to download MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread HaywireMac
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:48:36 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  BTW, I'm still not finding that blacklist on kernel.org... ;-)
 
 http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20hardware%20blacklistie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8
 Should get ya started.

ah, I thought you meant there was some dedicated area on kernel.org.

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