Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi Frank,
Again you put a lot of effort in this
This is very much appreciated at this end.
I will look into this and try to comprehend
THANKS
Enjoy
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1


 At 12:42 PM 7/18/03, Johan Scheepers wrote:
 This is one comprehensive response - of course all of it way over my
head -
 will need some close study.
 Sorry - would you maybe know any Howto's or sites or whatever to assist
me,
 please.


 Johan:  It's been about a year since I wrote/modified the script I posted,
 and it was on a *bsd system, so installation of DBI  DBD packages on MDK
 will be different.  In any case, I found these rpm's on the MDK 9.1 cd's:
 cd1 - perl-DBI-1.32-1mdk.i586.rpm
 cd1 - perl-Mysql-1.22_19-6mdk.i586.rpm
 cd3 - perl-DBD-Pg-1.21-2mdk.i586.rpm

 Don't install both mysql and pg rpm's.  Pick the one matching your
existing
 database.

 Although the perl-mysql rpm does have DBD in its name, the version number
 matches the (Oct2001) file at cpan.org (the next update was last month):
 http://search.cpan.org/author/JWIED/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2219/

 Now for the dBase part (called xBase to cover other compatible file
 formats).  Here's some doc...
 http://search.cpan.org/author/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234/lib/DBD/XBase.pm
 Download:
 http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/J/JA/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234.tar.gz
 After download:
  tar xfz DBD-XBase-0.234.tar.gz
  cd DBD-XBase-0.234
  perl Makefile.PL
  make
  make test
  make install
 All these commands except make install can be run as a 'normal' user,
you
 must be 'root' for the last step.  At this point, you should be able to
run
 the script I posted.

 As for howto webpages, I don't have any.  A google of perl dbd xbase did
 come up with an rpm for the dbd:xbase package on first hit.  A little
 further down, there is even one from MDK:

http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake-devel/contrib/alpha/perl-DBD-XBase-0.232-1mdk.noarch.html

 Maybe it's a simple as install of 3 rpms?

 Frank









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[newbie] Mandrake cooker??

2003-07-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
How does mdk cooker work
Do I need iso downloads??
Install mdk9.1 and upgrade??
I have some drive space and would like to tinker.
Please some pointers.
Enjoy
Johan
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Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-18 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi Frank,
Thanks.
This is one comprehensive response - of course all of it way over my head -
will need some close study.
Sorry - would you maybe know any Howto's or sites or whatever to assist me,
please.
Enjoy
Johan.
***
- Original Message - 
From: Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Johan Scheepers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1


 At 02:33 PM 7/16/03, rikona wrote:
  I have some old dbase files I may convert too. If you get
  this to work, please post the result here. Thanks.

 I have a perl script (from my *bsd system, but should work on Linux) that
 converts all dBase files in a directory to pgsql tables, you should be
able
 to convert to mysql with different libraries.  You'll need to install:
 DBI - abstraction layer for database access from perl
 DBD::XBase - access to DBF files via DBI - include a program to dump
structure
 DBD::Pg or DBI:MySQL - access to database from DBI

 For Mysql, you may need to change DBF2PG subroutine for translating
 datatypes; otherwise, just rewrite the mainline for your own purposes.

 The script is written to take a parameter - if this is a filename (without
 extension), then it will process just that file, otherwise, every file
 starting with those characters.

 Frank

 - - - - -
 #!/usr/bin/perl -w
 use strict;
 use File::Basename; # for basename() function
 use DBI;  use DBD::XBase;  use DBD::Pg;

 my $base = shift;

 my $dir = '/home/fbax/DBFfiles/' . $base;
 my $dbf = DBI-connect(dbi:XBase:$dir, {RaiseError = 1} );
 my $dbp = DBI-connect(dbi:Pg:dbname=famtree, famtree, , {RaiseError
 = 1} );

 while (my $fname = $dir/$base*.DBF) {
DBF2PG ($dbf, $dbp, $fname, basename(substr($fname, 0,
 length($fname)-4)));
 }

 $dbf-disconnect;
 $dbp-disconnect;

 sub DBF2PG {
(my $dbf, my $dbp, my $fname, my $table) = @_;
$table = lc(\$table\);
print $fname - $table\n;
open (PIPE, dbfdump --info $fname |) or die Can't open $fname: $!;
my $sql = CREATE TABLE $table ;
my $sep = (;
while( PIPE ) {
  chomp;
  if (/^[0-9]+\./) { # line starts with number.
 # print $_\n;
my @stru = split; # stru contains field,type,len,dec
$sql .= $sep.' '.lc($stru[1]).'';
if ($stru[2] eq 'D') {
  $sql .=  date;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'L') {
  $sql .=  boolean;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'M') {
  $sql .=  text;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'G') {
  $sql .=  text;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'C'  $stru[3] eq 1) {
  $sql .=  char;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'C') {
  $sql .=  varchar($stru[3]);
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N'  $stru[4] eq 0  $stru[3]  5) {
  $sql .=  int2;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N'  $stru[4] eq 0  $stru[3]  10) {
  $sql .=  int4;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N'  $stru[4] eq 0) {
  $sql .=  int8;
} elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N') {
  $sql .=  numeric($stru[3],$stru[4]);
} else {
  $sql .=  $stru[2].$stru[3].$stru[4];
}
$sep = ',';
  }
}
close (PIPE);
$sql .= ' );';
$dbp-{RaiseError} = 0;
$dbp-do( DROP TABLE $table );
$dbp-{RaiseError} = 1;
$dbp-do( $sql );

my $sth = $dbf-prepare( SELECT * FROM .basename($fname) );
$sth-execute;
while (my @row = $sth-fetchrow_array()) {
  $sql = INSERT INTO $table VALUES ;
  $sep = (;
  foreach my $fld (@row) {
$sql .= $sep .$dbp-quote($fld);
$sep = ,;
  }
  $sql .= ' );';
  $dbp-do( $sql );
}
$sth-finish;
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[newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-14 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi
I have this dbase IV database which I use in Delphi 3.

Can this DBF used in mdk9.1.

Maybe how?

Kylix3?

I would really appreciate some pointers here please.

Enjoy
Johan

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Re: [newbie] superuser single command (su -c ??????????)

2003-07-07 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
With your suggestion the user part falls away and all the following work
fine
su --c shutdown -r now
su -c  cp foo foo1
su -c rm -ir tmp
Well if you know its easy - couldnot see this option in man page.
Thanks
enjoy
Johan

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- Original Message - 
From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] superuser single command (su -c ??)


 On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 16:20, Johan Scheepers wrote:
  Hi,
  Sometimes while  being a user you need to do a command that only su can
do.
  While stdying su it seems there is a way to do this. I have problems to
make
  some work.
 
  su -c gedit root foo
opens gedit in su mode not as foo but as untitled - you can save it as
  foo.
 
  su -c ./foo root
  This runs the script.
 
  su -c cp root foo foo1
  this does not work - complains and needs more than I can provide - do
not
  know what.
 
  su -c shutdown root -r now
  Does not work - complains -r wrong option.
 
  now su command construction something like this...
  su [option] [-] [user] [ARG]
 
  It would be really nice to do complex commands.
  Please what am I missing
  Thanks
  Johan
 
  May this be a good day for learning

 Try:

 su -c 'your command within quotes'

 Adolfo









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[newbie] Making file excecutable

2003-07-07 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
I have written some scripts in gedit to mount and umount my other linux
flavours on my system. Do not want them in fstab
OK I did chmod 755 to them and now they show up green. Can be executed with
./xx. They are in my home directory.
What I would like to do is..
1. execute them from anywhere
2. Drag them om my user screen and exec from there.
I know this is possible but missing something.
Please some help.
Thanks
Johan
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[newbie] Multiboot using BRUB

2003-07-06 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
First THANKS to members giving me pointers and site addresses while I was
learning GRUB.(Still learning)
This is for members new to linux  GRUB.
This is a WONDERFULL bootloader - (LILO is fine.)
If you start to understand its workings you can produce magic  with it.
Make a GRUB bootdisk - copy your HD menu.lst to it.
Now your MBR on your first HD/or whatever with the list may get
wiped/corrupted(sometimes it even do not need any reason at all) and you can
still boot any of your OS'ses on any partition/drive from this bootdisk with
no
problem - it will seem it is from HD.
If  you have to make a choice - choose GRUB.
If you are a LILO user you can still change to GRUB - with some STUDY it is
easy - on Mandrake/Redhat it is already installed - check for
/boot/grub/menu.lst - need only to be activated - again please - first it
needs some study.
*
For those interested please find attched a copy of my menu.lst - All work
fine exceept the one with Problem. Probably need some more study.
Viewing this file you can see how many dos and linux partitions can be
booted - according to papers there is actually no limit.
*
Enjoy
Johan
.
May this be a good day for learning
timeout 10
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
i18n (hd0,4)/boot/grub/messages
keytable (hd0,4)/boot/us.klt
altconfigfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.once
default 0

title Mandrake9.1-hde5
kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde5 quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off 
vga=788
initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde5 devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde5 failsafe devfs=nomount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img
#
title redhat9.0-hde7
kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 root=/dev/hde7
initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img

#
title linux9.0-hdg6
kernel (hd1,5)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdg6
initrd (hd1,5)/boot/initrd.img
#
title Dos-hde1
root (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

title Dos-hdg1
unhide (hd1,0)
hide (hd1,1)
hide (hd1,2)
root (hd1,0)
map (0x81) (0x80)
map (0x80) (0x81)
makeactive
chainloader +1
#
title Dos-hdg2
hide (hd1,0)
unhide (hd1,1)
hide (hd1,2)
root (hd1,1)
map (0x81) (0x80)
map (0x80) (0x81)
chainloader +1
makeactive
#
title Dos-hdg3
hide (hd1,0)
hide (hd1,1)
unhide (hd1,2)
root (hd1,2)
map (0x81) (0x80)
map (0x80) (0x81)
makeactive
chainloader +1
#
title Dos-hdg-Problem
hide (hd1,0)
hide (hd1,1)
hide (hd1,2)
unhide (hd1,4)
root (hd1,4)
map (0x81) (0x80)
map (0x80) (0x81)
makeactive
chainloader +1
#
title floppy
root (fd0)
chainloader +1


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[newbie] tricking linux to accept changed partition

2003-07-06 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
This is for experimentation.
Setup :
2 HD's - hde  hdg
.Mdk9.0 on second HD - hdg6
Remove drive one.
Using GRUB bootdisk  - booting hdg6 which is now changed to hde6.
Before this (after file backup) I edited the fstab that the references to
the previous partiton hdg6 now is hde6.(Wel I think it should be hde -  I
have no way to find out- no system running)
When booting I edit the references in this menu-option to refer to (hd0,5) 
hde6.
It boots fine untill it displays : kernel panic . No init found. Try passing
init=options to kernel.
Ok if all is normal this line should read INIT : version xxx
Well even before this some other errors creep in - like from mounting
reiserfs it becomes a lot of errors.(If mounting failed then no file can be
found?)
OK this is absolutely new ground to me - know nothing about kernel
parrams/etc.
When this happened the first time I did the fstab changes hoping this wil
trick the kernel. (ha-ha).
System search revealed several int files/directories several places.
Cat the one in /etc/sysconfig/init refers to colors and some stuff but no
partition.
When does fstab come in while booting.
I also tried mapping but only one drive - map to what?.
It is easy to trick DOS. It seems that a lot more or not possible to trick
linux.
Maybe there is to much involved that makes linux drive and partition
specific.
If this means a major overhaul it will not be worth the effort. Like a new
install or whatever if this situation arises.
Please what else need be edited or whatever to make this work?.
Maybe I am expecting to much?
Johan

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Re: [newbie] root

2003-07-06 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
OK this can be done - but I think - if you knew how you would probably not
do it - you can compromise your system to bad people.(Do not even think it
will NOT happen to you)  I now it is a hassle
to to use console and you would rather use GUI.
I asume that you are new to this according to your question.
Here is some suggestions to avoid that.
Change to console.
Use su then  password  or su - (with a minus)then password - the last one
makes the root environment  available.
Should you like GUI (like in home on your screen) type konqueror - there now
you can move around in your system like root. Can open files by right
clicking and using open with...a lot of editors available.
Should you like to to edit a file in console- move to the directory then
like ..
   gedit foo.conf
 ( or any other text editor ..kwrite and more)
you can edit/print/save/whatever like root.
while you are in console-root you may move/access any directory or file -
now again do not access files you do not know what they do - you can make
your system in-operable.
Now when you close console all root privileges are gone and system safe.
Need more info - please feel free to ask
Enjoy
Johan
*

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From: Tsyko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: [newbie] root


 Good day

 how can i set my user up with root privileges?

 Thanks








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[newbie] superuser single command (su -c ??????????)

2003-07-06 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
Sometimes while  being a user you need to do a command that only su can do.
While stdying su it seems there is a way to do this. I have problems to make
some work.

su -c gedit root foo
  opens gedit in su mode not as foo but as untitled - you can save it as
foo.

su -c ./foo root
This runs the script.

su -c cp root foo foo1
this does not work - complains and needs more than I can provide - do not
know what.

su -c shutdown root -r now
Does not work - complains -r wrong option.

now su command construction something like this...
su [option] [-] [user] [ARG]

It would be really nice to do complex commands.
Please what am I missing
Thanks
Johan

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Re: [newbie] recognizing Windows

2003-07-06 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
May I make some suggestions
Before you change anything in fstab please make backup.
The dir name in /mnt is win_c in this case - you can create any dir name you
like - after install I usualy create my own dirs like win-hda1 , dos-hde1 ,
man90-hde5, etc.
Then I edit the fstab with the new names - two choices - umount the edited
partitions and then mount -a or reboot.
Now delete the old names in /mnt.
Your case - use win_c - now test this first before editing fstab
You may also use fdisk -l /dev/hda to check that you have your info correct.
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c
The type must be correct (vfat, etc).
This should work and  you should now use mount and will see this partition
displayed with the rest.(at bottom)
I only make changes in fstab and I have no problems.
In fstab add line like..
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat defaults
The type of system like vfat, ext2 ,reiserfs is importend here. This always
works for me - the system is smart enough to mount correctly.
Now umount /mnt/win_c *** mount    look if out on list.
Now mount -a
mount
see on screen if it is there you are OK.

Now is this partition in your /etc/lilo.conf or GRUB menu.lst
If you want to boot it -  it must be added.
Enjoy
Johan
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- Original Message - 
From: Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] recognizing Windows


 On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 13:01, Eric Huff wrote:
  On 06 Jul 2003 12:39:18 -0500
  Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   hda1 (C:) wasn't connected during my last install, so I'm trying to
get
   Linux to recognize it.
   I've created the /win_c: dir in /mnt and edited fstab and mtab with:
  
   /dev/hda8 /mnt/win_c: vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0
0
   and rebooted.
   Still when I click the win_c: icon in a file mgr, no files are shown.
 
  Shouldn't that be /dev/hda1 ?
 
  You shouldn't need to reboot: just mount /mnt/win_c:
 
  Also, you might want to get rid of the : just for confusion's sake.
 
  Here is another example of install differences:  1st time mine was
/mnt/win_c, next time /mnt/windows
 
  eric
  Thanks Eric,
 Got it (mostly) sorted out :-)
 
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[newbie] Problem accessing floppy

2003-07-02 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
After making a bootdisk with GRUB per instructions- (the bootdisk works
fine)-  I am not able to access the disk after reboot if mounted like :
/mnt/floppy
It seems to mount but if you say like ls then after a lot of activity you
get i/o error.
Eventually after a lot of grief I tried to mount like :
 mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
Now you may access.
For info  : the first of the instructions to make this bootdisk is : mke2fs
/dev/fd0.
Question why - other times you stick in
a floppy mount and access.
Is it the file system that now forces you to mount the floppy like a
partition?
Please any ideas.
Thanks
Johan

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Re: [newbie] Printing man pages

2003-07-02 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Thanks Guys,
This is new ground to me - I will be trying your suggestions
Johan
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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Printing man pages


 On Tuesday 01 Jul 2003 10:38 am, Robin Turner wrote:
  Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 06:43, Johan Scheepers wrote:
  Hi,
  At the moment I use this command to print man pages...
  man lilo | col -b | lpr
  This is fine if it is only one or two pages.
  I do not seem to be able to redirect it to ordinary file
  Why - then I may be able to use a editor and be able to print first
  odd -reverse -then even - this will then use both sides  of paper
   - save a lot off paper and also make my paper files smaller.
  Thanks
  Johan
  
   Do it like this:
  
   man lilo | col -b  lilo_manpage.ps
  
   Then, you can open a nice postscript viewer/editor and make it all
   pretty and then print it at leisure! (or save it to view as you
   desire, or change it into an HTML file for indexing on your system)
 
  or try piping it through a2ps, which will format it nicely for you
  (check out man a2ps - there are tons of formatting options).


 Erm..
 man has an option to output postscript.

 man -t lilo  lilo_manpage.ps
 ghostview lilo_manpage.ps

 (man -t complains about a couple of fonts, but it works OK.)
 That gives you all the nice bold/italic highlighting etc. that you lose
 with col.

 -- 
 Richard Urwin








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Re: [newbie] Problem accessing floppy

2003-07-02 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
See my posting to make your own tests
JOHAN

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:29 PM
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[newbie] Installing grub on floppy

2003-06-30 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
I would like to install GRUB on a floppy.
The command on a multiboot howto give this--
grub-install '(fd0)'   GRUB not very happy with this

On the GRUB man this is the command
   grub --install-partition=PAR
I can not find the correct sequence of the option?
Somewhere the floppy should be in the option
How do -partition be considered?
=PAR 
I do this from /boot/grub
Please kindly if possible the correct way to do the option for floppy

I do it from the HD what I was supposed to do from floppy - it works - every
time have to remove drive 1 to do on drive 2 -put back drive 1 etc- quite a
nuisance -but I would like the floppy way for testing.
Thanks
Johan
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[newbie] Printing man pages

2003-06-30 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
At the moment I use this command to print man pages...
man lilo | col -b | lpr
This is fine if it is only one or two pages.
I do not seem to be able to redirect it to ordinary file
Why - then I may be able to use a editor and be able to print first
odd -reverse -then even - this will then use both sides  of paper  - save a
lot off paper and also make my paper files smaller.
Thanks
Johan


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Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS

2003-06-28 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
This is why linux is so good - there are so many different ways to reach the
same point. If it works for you, sure thats good.
I am glad for the stuff I learned from this experiment.
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS


 Johan Scheepers wrote:

 Hi John,
 I installed mdk9.1 three times.
 Option auto / expert never came up.
 
 Insert CD1 , run to splash screen, choose F1, run to prompt, type
 expert, then enter, gives you expert install in graphical mode(or
whaterver)

 Option to config or skip bootloader will came up after 3rd disk.
 
 How ?

 ONLY on 2nd and 3rd install.
 
 How ?

 It seems that on first time around you have no
 choice?
 
 As one would expect !

 The next config option for bootloader will come up on the bottom of the
 screen
 
 Which window ?

 where you can config a lot of stuff.
 Select this option and on the screen that appear select ADVANCE
 
 I know it,

 to be able
 to select option for bootdisk.
 After bootdisk is made you have option to config lilo -
 here you have to make some choices.
 
 Choices ?

 If you are not succesful here and you
 have a bootdisk you can modify the lilo.conf after reboot.
 
 Well yes, but it would be better not to install lilo at all on second
 attempt.

 Here you have to look closely to configuration manner see below for this
 installation.. Refer to my previous postings
 
 sure,

 Please after first install and reboot mark this install somewhere so that
 you will know which is which. They look the same and is very confusing.
 
 I always do.

  Also
 mark the second install.
 Should you mount the non-live OS you must use full path to move around in
 it.
 
 Well all this goes in your final active /etc/lilo.conf to either boot
 one, and mount the other as the case may be. I just want the active
 /etc/lilo.conf to be the first M9.1 install and remain so.

 It is not really importend which partition is installed first and that
the
 lilo is written to MBR the next will overwrite it.
 
 Youcann ot stop this then ?

  What is importent is the
 way your lilo.conf will be written in the end - by mdk or yourself.
 
 yes and no, depends if your happy with booting off the lilo.conf of the
 second M9.1 install.

 Suggest - cd /etc su.
 Now there is some ways to use lilo.
 Like - to see how now --  lilo -q
 To see if your changes is legal without changing --   lilo -t
 If you need more info lilo -t -v.
 Be sure to backup your file before changes.
 I enjoyed this testing - this is how I found out when to make bootdisk
 before rebooting install and it also made me more confident.
 Enjoy
 Johan
 
 

 OK, now this,

 Look closely to this image and initrd*
 image=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/vmlinuz
  label=linuxhde7
  root=/dev/hde7
  initrd=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
  read-only
 
 
 
 This looks really wierd to me, I'm not sure if I understand it.

 image=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/vmlinuz

 says, go look for the kernel to boot in /mnt/linuxhde-7
 which must be some strange way of saying hde7 , boot directory, select
kernel vmlinuz.

 and again,

 initrd=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img

 use initrd in hde7 's /boot directory.


 Now would this also work for me when I have a /boot partition.(hda5 if my
memory serves me correctly)?

 Which means all kernel and initrd files are in /dev/hda5 (or whaterver)
 So I have the simpler task of writing all /etc/lilo.conf entries to use
 kernel and init.rd files in the same /dev/hda5(or whatever). I still
 think my way is easier, keep to the one /boot partition, where all these
 files go for all the linux OS's, and what is more the installer puts
 them there automatically.

 John

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Re: [newbie] Booting dos + dos + linux

2003-06-28 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Sorry I expressed myself badly.
I want to boot this with lilo.
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Booting dos + dos + linux


 Johan Scheepers wrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to to install and boot dos + dos + linux with lilo.
 This is just for learning.
 
 Don't bother, you cannot, Windblows has to be in charge of all it's own
 booting, therfore lilo hands it over to windblows.

 I read thruogh all lilo docs and manual but I do not seam to find it.
Maybe
 it is there but I do not understand.
 I done the following.
 Create 2 dos primary partitions - dos fdisk refuses.
 Done it with part/Magic - if you try now fdisk marks it non-dos - refuses
to
 make it active so can not install dos on second pri part.
 Funny dos is quite happy to install 2 same dos versions if the second
part
 is is logical.
 The problem now is that lilo can not boot the second dos.
 Lilo is quite happy to boot dos - linux - linux.
 
 It's not lilo it's dos that's not happy.


 Technically it is possible to boot all linux OS's from windblows
 bootloader, I did it once a long time ago, but frankly it's not worth it
 , it's tedious and time consuming to do and the lilo/dos chain
 bootloader method is far easier and more convenient. No stilck to lilo -
 windblows.

 John

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Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS

2003-06-28 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
So there it is hiding - on my system and CD if I press F1 the system hangs
forever and even enter will not work.
Have to reset system but enter works when pressed first - this is a
downloaded version of mdk9.1 I buy from a firm that sells them.
Any ideas why?
Thanks
Johan
- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS


 Johan Scheepers wrote:

 Hi John,
 I installed mdk9.1 three times.
 Option auto / expert never came up.
 
 Insert CD1 , run to splash screen, choose F1, run to prompt, type
 expert, then enter, gives you expert install in graphical mode(or
whaterver)

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Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive

2003-06-26 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi John,
OK I do not no about w2k but I had win XP and MD8.0 run together for 6
months until the drive crashed - no fault of the OS's - after replacement I
use them seperate.
While it was working it worked fine.
It was a cleaen drive to start - I used partition magic to partition the
disk. Like..
hda1   -  win xp
hda5  - MD8.0
hda6  - swap
Installed win xp first then MD8.0
This is to let linux detect OS's and config lilo and write to MBR
What now happens is when pick win xp on GUI it start win xp loader and there
you pick again if req.
If you pick linux then it start.
**
In your case lets asume clean drive.
Ok you can partition as follow.
hda1   -  w2k
hda2   -  extended partition
hda5  - linux flavour 1
hda6  - swap  ( only one for both flavours they wont be running at the
same time - mine works like that)
hda7  -  linux flavour 2..
Maybe a dos partition after hda2 for a transfer area between the OS's -
linux can read vfat 16, 32 but i do not now other flavours and visa versa..
You need a
common denominator to transfer stuf around - I use dos partition for that
reason.
If you do this then part no's change.
*
Again if it is a clean drive you can use linux to patition the drive as
suggested - then install first flavour in EXPERT mode to HDA5 or 7 - (it
does not really matter) - to prevent MD to write the MBR.
Now install w2k on HDA1.(it will write to MBR)
Then install flavour 2 to your open linux partition - now you may use auto
install - you need to let it detect and config lilo and write MBR. Be sure
to make boot disks.
Now if all go to plan your last install wil be in charge of booting. Maybe
you may need my example of lilo.conf to correct your config.

If this is a LIVE disk you need someting like partition magic it works very
nice BUT it failed me once.
Maybe linux can partition live drive - I do not know.
Then do as suggested and install.
***
Now something interesting - I read it in a linux mag and tried it - it
works.
If you have a second drive  - you can create there a partiton to put the
swap or /home - and maybe more I only tried this.
***
Ok if all this works you may access the other flavour from the live flavour
by mounting it manually (would not advize to put it in fstab).
What is importend here if you accessed the not live then you can not do like
cd /boot it will revert to live one - you MUST do like cd  /manx/root then
it will move inside the not live flavour.

Ok I have these rack and trays and  seven HD's of diiferent makes and size.
My Importent 2 drives I keep save - the rest I do experiment with.

Trust the above will be of assistance.
Feel free to ask if you need more info - it is difficult to know what you
need.
Enjoy
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive


 Johan Scheepers wrote:

 Hi to John Richard Smith ,
snip
 
 
 Thanks,
 I understand this completely.

 You are installing 3 quite different OS's on one or more hard drive, fine.

 But what if your installing, W2k, M9.1 , and another M9.1 on the same
 hard drive.
 The second M9.1 to be used purely for updating with latest cooker
 updates. How do you do that ?

 John

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[newbie] Multiboot on same drive

2003-06-25 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi to John Richard Smith ,
May the following be of assistance - it is part of a previous message I
posted..
This is more detailed than the one posted earlier today - use them both..
snip
Something else I would like to point out - I used Mandrake9.1 install
partitioning to do the disk - when it reached apps to install I reset the
PC. I prefer mandrake partitioninig - more friendly for me.

This is for information only to someone who may need it.

Have installed 3 OS's on one disk - see below
I installed dos - then - redhat - then - mandrake.
Do not forget make boot disks.
They do not see each other or use each others partitions unless mounted.
When I installed redhat I let it install lilo - when you install mandrake it
will owerwrite the MBR with its version and this way you can test out redhat
before you continue.
Mandrake was last - I found in the past that mandrake is good at detecting
OS,s and configuring them in lilo. This time detected but used mandrakes
linuz  initrd.
All examples refer to my setup.
This just show the drive setup.
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hde1 * 1 101 811251 6 FAT16 - Dos
/dev/hde2 102 2494 19221772+ 5 Extended
/dev/hde5 102 1261 9317668+ 83 Linux --Redhat8.0
/dev/hde6 1262 1362 811251 82 Linux swap -for both
/dev/hde7 1363 2494 9092758+ 83 Linux --Mandrake9.1
What is importend for this to work is the following after all installs
done..
1. With Mandrake loaded.(your last installation)
2. Su in console.
3. mkdir /mnt/redhat.
4. mount -t ext3 /dev/hde /mnt/redhat - THIS IS VERY IMPORTEND otherwise it
will just NOT work. If redhat is not mounted by fstab (I dont do - only on
console when needed) If you should run lilo -v on another day - repeat 4.
5. cd /etc
6. gedit lilo.conf
7. add the lines as below and save.
8. lilo -v.   ( MBR ).
9. What is importend add /mnt/redhat to image and initrd - if you leave it
out at initrd -- command lilo -v will complain : fatal: no such file or
directory.
After a lot of grief I realized this.
snip
image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8
label=Redhat
root=/dev/hde5
initrd=/mnt/redhat/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img
read-only
Enjoy
Johan

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?

2003-06-22 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
hi,
I run XP and Mandrake 9 on same drive - LILO my bootloader.
On installing Mandrake it picked up XP and configured it  LILO was written
to MBR.
What I found was that Mandrake and LILO do a better job on discovering and
config of additional OS's than Redhat.
Now when I boot GUI come up - pick windows and then
XP loader comes up - there you go.
My system works fine.
**
Here is something I did on the  PC of my wife(MS win 95 only)drive - I
installed a second drive as slave - installed Mandrake on 2nd drive -
Mand/LILO picked up all - BUT wrote the configuration to the  1st (primary
MBR) drvie.
Now if you remove slave( permanent) the LILO boot up still works for
Winlinux. To get rid of this - in dos fdisk /MBR and you are back to MS -
on XP you will probably need the repair function to correct this.

Refer to my letter on list - to multi boot - you can boot more than 2 OS'S
on 1 drive.
Refer to position of drive on cable - can NOT cunfuse win or linux - (unless
your PC is ancient - when you had you set links on drive   correct position
on cable  and some dip switches) it will be your BIOS that may get confused.
BUT CAREFULL if you move your drive hda to hdb or hdc and make it your boot
by removing all  in front boot up- linux WILL get confused (windows in this
case do not care everything just become C again.Sorry for linux but this is
true)
Set the hardware BIOS detection all of it on auto - it will work fine. I
chop and change drives(7 HD's) at will (only drive link importend) and it
works every  time.I have these mobile rack and trays.
To make this easy set your cdrom/s to slave and all harddrives to master. If
you have 2 cdroms then each as slave one on a cable with a harddrive. Trust
this may help
you to decide.
Johan
***
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From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?


 On Saturday 21 June 2003 08:58 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote:
 
  which drive would i make the primary drive?  my thought is that i'd make
  the 100GB drive the primary drive, as the computer would have to access
  linux before windows to give me the dual boot option, correct?

 Actually, Windows needs to be first, or at least it used to.  I don't know
 about XP.  I recall that Windows ignores all partitions above the first
one
 it doesn't recognize, so I always put windows on first, create my shared
 partition and then put linux on the end of the drive.

  Secondly...does the drive's position on the ribbon matter?  i'm running
2
  things on that ribbon currently, the 20GB drive and my CDRW drive.  this
is
  only the first computer i've owned that i've actually torn apart and put
  back together hardware wise, once while trouble shooting for a defective
  sound card, the other time doing a case swap.  so i'm not all that
familiar
  with hooking up new hardware.

 You're best bet, as long as you don't need to do a lot of disk to disk
 copying, is to put your optical drives on a seperate channel from your
hard
 drives.  This is especially true of CDRW drives, where you want to
maximize
 the data throughput from your hard drives to the burner.  Putting them on
the
 same channel could create bottlenecks when you burn a cd.  So I would make
 the disk drives hda and hdb and let the cdrw be hdc.

  i know if i make the 100GB drive the primary, i have to switch the
jumper
  on the 20GB drive to make it the secondary.
 
  and a final question.i'm running an ASUS KV7-RM motherboard that has
  all the bios updates done to it, so that's a plus, but will i have to
enter
  the bios settings once i plug the new drive in?

 Maybe, maybe not.  It depends on what your bios settings are now.  Some
people
 indicate none in the unused channels to speed up their boots.  As long as
 everything in the bios is set to autodetect, then you shouldn't have to do
 anything, but if it is not, you may have to go in there and change some
 settigngs.

  as far as how i'm going to work with linuxi havn't decided if i'm
giong
  to do a fresh install and wipe out the old install or if i'm going to
try
  to move the current install to the new drive (someone already gave me a
  link that explains how to do that).  that's something i'll decide for
  myself once i get to that point.
 
 You could always try to move it for the learning experience and if you
screw
 up you can still reinstall.

 As far as partition sizes go, 80 gig is way too much for Linux.  You are
 better off setting up your linux partitions in 10-15GB, and then creating
a
 fat32 partition with the rest to share your data between windows and
linux.
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Re: [newbie] re re mnt/winc

2003-06-22 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
OK lets usume you use mandrake 9.1 (older versions differ in some respects)
When booting it goes to the user selected on install.
On KDE. Right click on mouse - select logout.
On GNOME select start  logout.
Now it goes to where different user may logon
This if you installed more than one user otherwise you will be there only.
Now here is 3 options
1..select other user (NO option for ROOT)
2.. REBOOT - if selected it MAY have a dropdown list to select way of
rebooting. Why I say may - sometimes the dropdown list is empty - if empty
then select HALT.
3 .HALT

If above  is all hash - then use* alt - cntrl -del  * this will -  if it
works reboot.
OR
Open console - su - password - shutdown -r (or -h) now.
If nothing of the above works - sorry beyond my scope
Now this not recommended - switch off.
Johan

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From: Mike Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 2:41 AM
Subject: [newbie] re re mnt/winc



 From a terminal, cd to /mnt/win_d. Now type mkdir test. Post any errors.

  Also, I can boot to linux, I cannot reboot, shutdown the computer or
  change user from linux.
 Here I am not sure what you mean. How are you trying to reboot/shutdown?
 How are you trying to change users? Logout and log back in from the
 Login Manager?
 -- 

 No errors when I made the test file.
 I use kde as my gui, and logout etcetera is done through the kde menu.
 I have upgraded my installation daily so I have the latest updates
 running.
 Any ideas anyone?
 cheers,
 Mike









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[newbie] No response on questions

2003-06-22 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi
A while back a member complained about no response to questions. I take it
none had a something to say.
I do understand his frustration ( being new to this)- I also had some
questions - no response.
Now I have pondered on this issue.
Now should every one who see a question/s should reply sorry no help - This
system will COMPLETELY be overloaded.
As it is if I skip a day or two I found up 785 messages waiting on server.
I suggest - join more user groups and post again.
Regards
Johan

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[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 bootdisk

2003-06-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
I have a funny problem - if start up GUI - no problem-startup bootdisk it
warns me that something will be removed - my cd writer.
If try to acces cd-writer - complain io access problem.
In console mount /mnt/cdrom no problem but try to access then problem.
Eventualy I went to the control centre - mount points and set it again -
then how to setup cdrom and reset it - then it works - only after
rebooting - then it warns you something is installed my cd-writer.
Now it works - if you reboot without resetting in control centre no dice.
Is this a bug or maybe only my system?
Any one care to explain.
Thanks
Johan

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[newbie] Mandrake or Redhat not complete boot

2003-06-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
Here is something I also discovered by accident and I want to share.
Still using Man 8.0 for a quite a while suddenly it refused to boot past
confiuring TIME - it will hang there forever.
This happens to all flavours I have.
The install disks not affected by this.(Thank goodness)
After installing and all hot reboots it will work fine.
If you switch off then boot it hangs by TIME again.
After the second reinstall and this problem I reset PC and when GUI came up
I for no reason clicked on Dos.
After alt-cont-del the system rebooted and there she goes.
Now every time from cold boot I first have to pick dos then A-C-D and it
work every time.

Please is there a reason that after long use this happens. I suppose it must
be somethihg to do with the PC timer??
PC about 2.5 yrs old.

Thanks
Johan
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[newbie] Multiboot -dos -redhat -mandrake

2003-06-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,

I would like to thank  Derek Jennings and FemmeFatale for the replies.

I am sorry if the old hands find this a bit over kill but for beginners like
me this is good.

I want to add that I also needed to print and read about 70 pages from lilo
htm and pdf files.

Something else I would like to point out - I used Mandrake9.1 install
partitioning to do the disk - when it reached apps to install I reset the
PC. I prefer mandrake partitioninig - more friendly for me.

This is for information only to someone who may need it.

Have installed 3 OS's on one disk - see below

I installed dos - then - redhat - then - mandrake.

Do not forget make boot disks.

They do not see each other or use each others partitions unless mounted.

When I installed redhat I let it install lilo - when you install mandrake it
will owerwrite the MBR with its version and this way you can test out redhat
before you continue.

Mandrake was last - I found in the past that mandrake is good at picking up
OS,s and configuring them in lilo. This time picked up but used mandrakes
linuz  initrd.

Derek's reply eventualy put me on the track. Thanks.

All examples refer to my setup.

This just show the drive setup.

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/hde1 * 1 101 811251 6 FAT16 - Dos

/dev/hde2 102 2494 19221772+ 5 Extended

/dev/hde5 102 1261 9317668+ 83 Linux --Redhat8.0

/dev/hde6 1262 1362 811251 82 Linux swap -for both

/dev/hde7 1363 2494 9092758+ 83 Linux --Mandrake9.1

What is importend for this to work is the following after all installs
done..

1. With Mandrake loaded.

2. Su in console.

3. mkdir /mnt/redhat.

4. mount -t ext3 /dev/hde /mnt/redhat - THIS IS VERY IMPORTEND otherwise it
will just NOT work. If redhat is not mounted by fstab (I dont do - only on
console when needed) If you should run lilo -v on another day - repeat 4.

5. cd /etc

6. gedit lilo.conf

7. add the lines as below and save.

8. lilo -v.   ( MBR ).

9. What is importend add /mnt/redhat to image and initrd - if you leave it
out at initrd -- command lilo -v will complain : fatal: no such file or
directory.

After a lot of grief I realized this.

snip

image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8

label=Redhat

root=/dev/hde5

initrd=/mnt/redhat/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img

read-only

Enjoy

Johan

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Re: [newbie] Multiboot -dos -redhat -mandrake

2003-06-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi Anne,
Furher to that I am now able to boot 3 hard-drives with 7 different
partitions 7 OS's - I am going to try a fourth harddrive - I read LILO can
handle 3 drives if the BIOS allows it.
OK my system have 8 ata ports due to a Ultra dma ide card I inserted with
its own BIOS - done about 2 months ago. Thats maybe a  4 th drive may work
I am getting a lot of respect for linux and LILO.(used to MS).
Yes will do after this test.
Did not know about that site - Thanks.
I will go look see how its done on that web site.
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiboot -dos -redhat -mandrake


 On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 4:45 pm, Johan Scheepers wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I would like to thank  Derek Jennings and FemmeFatale for the
  replies.
 
  I am sorry if the old hands find this a bit over kill but for
  beginners like me this is good.

 snipped much useful info

 Johan, that was a very thorough explanation of what you needed to do,
 and as such will help others when they search the archives.

 If you could tackle it, I would like to ask you to put your
 explanation on the community TWiki pages, to make it accessible to
 all users.  They are at

 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome

 Could you do that?

 Anne








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[newbie] Multiple boot

2003-06-17 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
I have 3 OS on 1 drive /dev/hde
1 = Dos /dev/hde1
2 = Redhat 9.0/dev/hde5
3 = Mandrake 9.1/dev/hde7
   swap = /dev/hde6
Why /dev/hde   and not hda - I use ultra dma ide card

Installed - dos -then -redhat- then -mandrake

Usually Mandrake pickup everything nicely like what is on hde and hdg and
config LILO without problem BUT I have not previously installed a 3rd OS on
same drive. I know how with 2 OS on first and 2 OS on second drive. I am
sure it is possible because I understand that LILO can handle up to 16 OS's
and 2 drives.

Mandrake did config redhat on hde5 but with mandrake image and init - If
redhat is picked on GUI it can not complete the boot.

I do not seem to be able to find info on my sort of setup.
There is a lot NT/linux - windows/linux.
Kindly please I need the part to insert in LILO to boot redhat from GUI boot
startup.
Redhat works fine if I use the bootdisk I made with installation. It so
slow.

All this is experimenting and on a spare drive so if I have to reinstall
everything OK fine - I have the time and thats how I learn.
Thanks
Johan
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[newbie] Mandrake DOCS URPMI

2003-06-15 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
While following a lead by Eric I found the following that may be of
value to some:

If your are a MEMBER of Mandrake club the Mandrake docs my be found here :

Version 8.xx up to 9.1 :

http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake_doc-en.html
http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/ByName.html

If NOT a member try this one for docs only up to 9.0:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/MByName.html

If you need the command to update live via the net with command line URPMI
then try this one:

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

Johan
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Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.1 user manuals are available

2003-06-13 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Thats nice
You maybe have the web-address please
Thanks
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: [newbie] mandrake 9.1 user manuals are available


 For anyone interested in the downloadable manuals, i just stumbled on them
 rpm'ing.

 mandrake_doc-en
 Version: 9.1-2mdk
 Size: 18715 KB
 Source: main
 Currently installed version: (none)

 eric








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[newbie] Re : urpmi mail-list

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,

I would like to also join the urpmi mail-list
Could someone kindly point me in the right direction
Thanks
Regards
Johan

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[newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 sound

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
I have a ALS4000 sound card

Mandrake did 9.0 pick up and it worked fine.

Mandrake 9.1 seem to pick it but does not install?? / configure??? it.

Going thruogh control center - its there - but no dice.

Kindly some advice - please some details
Regards
Johan


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[newbie] re : urpmi mail list

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,

I would like to also join the urpmi mail-list
Could someone kindly point me in the right direction
Thanks
Regards
Johan

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[newbie] Test

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Anybody receive this please ???
Johan


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[newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 -Root

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
Is there a reason why after logout of startup user not able to log in as
root - can only login as users - I liked it in Mandrake 9.0 - nice GUI to
modify whatever. - I am only user stand-alone pc

Is there a way to do it like in 9.0.- or  (maybe should create user with
root privilages?? - is this correct/possible??)

Please some pointers will help.
Thanks
Regards
Johan


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[newbie] Re Mandrake 9.1 - root

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
Is there a reason why after logout of startup user not able to log in as
root - can only login as users - I liked it in Mandrake 9.0 - nice GUI to
modify whatever. - I am only user stand-alone pc

Is there a way to do it like in 9.0.- or  (maybe should create user with
root privilages?? - is this correct/possible??)

Please some pointers will help.
Thanks
Regards
Johan

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[newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 - root

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi Ronald,
This is the same as the writers of handbooks and help/man/files- usuming
reader know.

Ok,  system startsup correct to user say johan
From here start terminal I can change to su and do whatever I want - all
interminal mode via user johan

Logout johan system go to GUI where you can pick available users - click
on photo - enter paswd - you login as say programs

In Man 9.0 you could enter root without picking a user and go GUI as root.

But in Man 9.1 you can only pick common user photo's.

Best I can explain.
Johan
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- Original Message - 
From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Johan Scheepers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 -Root


 On Sunday 08 June 2003 10:28 am, Johan Scheepers wrote:
  Hi,
  Is there a reason why after logout of startup user not able to log in as
  root - can only login as users - I liked it in Mandrake 9.0 - nice GUI
to
  modify whatever. - I am only user stand-alone pc
 
  Is there a way to do it like in 9.0.- or  (maybe should create user with
  root privilages?? - is this correct/possible??)
 
  Please some pointers will help.
  Thanks
  Regards
  Johan

 Let me make sure I've got this right - you can't login as root? Does it
get
 past the KDE stuff then sit with a spinning mouse cursor?

 If so, then in your regular user account (with X running) open a shell, go
to
 su, type in kcontrol, then go to look 'n feel. From there pick
behavior
 and check/uncheck the buttons for icons on the desktop, and the mounted
ones.
 One combo of these will allow your root account to start up right.

 If you just can't login as root at all - then I can't help.

 Hope this does help ya though!

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 \/


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Re: [newbie] Utility to keep internet connection busy

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Adolfo,
I still learning - kindly explain in more detail - I do not know anything
about cron jobs.
Will this cronjob keep sending messages so that no idle time come in to
play?
Johan
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To: Mandrake-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Utility to keep internet connection busy


 On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 14:45, Johan Scheepers wrote:
  Hi,
  Is there a utillity that you can activate to keep internet connection
busy
  while going eat/town/anywhere.
  South Africa - callmore time - infinit call - you can go on internet
friday
  1900 up to monday 0700 for R7.00.
  I would not like to change setting for idle time if possible.
 
  Thanks
  Johan

 A cron job calling lynx to access a web page will do it. Something like
 lynx -dump http://www.foobar.com

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[newbie] Re : urpmi mailing list

2003-06-08 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
Is there a mailing list for urpmi - for questions/answers?
Thankyou
Johan


May this be a good day for learning
Hi,
Is there a mailing list for urpmi - for questions/answers?
Thankyou
Johan


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