Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
Hi Frank, Again you put a lot of effort in this This is very much appreciated at this end. I will look into this and try to comprehend THANKS Enjoy Johan - Original Message - From: Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1 At 12:42 PM 7/18/03, Johan Scheepers wrote: This is one comprehensive response - of course all of it way over my head - will need some close study. Sorry - would you maybe know any Howto's or sites or whatever to assist me, please. Johan: It's been about a year since I wrote/modified the script I posted, and it was on a *bsd system, so installation of DBI DBD packages on MDK will be different. In any case, I found these rpm's on the MDK 9.1 cd's: cd1 - perl-DBI-1.32-1mdk.i586.rpm cd1 - perl-Mysql-1.22_19-6mdk.i586.rpm cd3 - perl-DBD-Pg-1.21-2mdk.i586.rpm Don't install both mysql and pg rpm's. Pick the one matching your existing database. Although the perl-mysql rpm does have DBD in its name, the version number matches the (Oct2001) file at cpan.org (the next update was last month): http://search.cpan.org/author/JWIED/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2219/ Now for the dBase part (called xBase to cover other compatible file formats). Here's some doc... http://search.cpan.org/author/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234/lib/DBD/XBase.pm Download: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/J/JA/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234.tar.gz After download: tar xfz DBD-XBase-0.234.tar.gz cd DBD-XBase-0.234 perl Makefile.PL make make test make install All these commands except make install can be run as a 'normal' user, you must be 'root' for the last step. At this point, you should be able to run the script I posted. As for howto webpages, I don't have any. A google of perl dbd xbase did come up with an rpm for the dbd:xbase package on first hit. A little further down, there is even one from MDK: http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake-devel/contrib/alpha/perl-DBD-XBase-0.232-1mdk.noarch.html Maybe it's a simple as install of 3 rpms? Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake cooker??
Hi, How does mdk cooker work Do I need iso downloads?? Install mdk9.1 and upgrade?? I have some drive space and would like to tinker. Please some pointers. Enjoy Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
Hi Frank, Thanks. This is one comprehensive response - of course all of it way over my head - will need some close study. Sorry - would you maybe know any Howto's or sites or whatever to assist me, please. Enjoy Johan. *** - Original Message - From: Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Johan Scheepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1 At 02:33 PM 7/16/03, rikona wrote: I have some old dbase files I may convert too. If you get this to work, please post the result here. Thanks. I have a perl script (from my *bsd system, but should work on Linux) that converts all dBase files in a directory to pgsql tables, you should be able to convert to mysql with different libraries. You'll need to install: DBI - abstraction layer for database access from perl DBD::XBase - access to DBF files via DBI - include a program to dump structure DBD::Pg or DBI:MySQL - access to database from DBI For Mysql, you may need to change DBF2PG subroutine for translating datatypes; otherwise, just rewrite the mainline for your own purposes. The script is written to take a parameter - if this is a filename (without extension), then it will process just that file, otherwise, every file starting with those characters. Frank - - - - - #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use File::Basename; # for basename() function use DBI; use DBD::XBase; use DBD::Pg; my $base = shift; my $dir = '/home/fbax/DBFfiles/' . $base; my $dbf = DBI-connect(dbi:XBase:$dir, {RaiseError = 1} ); my $dbp = DBI-connect(dbi:Pg:dbname=famtree, famtree, , {RaiseError = 1} ); while (my $fname = $dir/$base*.DBF) { DBF2PG ($dbf, $dbp, $fname, basename(substr($fname, 0, length($fname)-4))); } $dbf-disconnect; $dbp-disconnect; sub DBF2PG { (my $dbf, my $dbp, my $fname, my $table) = @_; $table = lc(\$table\); print $fname - $table\n; open (PIPE, dbfdump --info $fname |) or die Can't open $fname: $!; my $sql = CREATE TABLE $table ; my $sep = (; while( PIPE ) { chomp; if (/^[0-9]+\./) { # line starts with number. # print $_\n; my @stru = split; # stru contains field,type,len,dec $sql .= $sep.' '.lc($stru[1]).''; if ($stru[2] eq 'D') { $sql .= date; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'L') { $sql .= boolean; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'M') { $sql .= text; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'G') { $sql .= text; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'C' $stru[3] eq 1) { $sql .= char; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'C') { $sql .= varchar($stru[3]); } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N' $stru[4] eq 0 $stru[3] 5) { $sql .= int2; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N' $stru[4] eq 0 $stru[3] 10) { $sql .= int4; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N' $stru[4] eq 0) { $sql .= int8; } elsif ($stru[2] eq 'N') { $sql .= numeric($stru[3],$stru[4]); } else { $sql .= $stru[2].$stru[3].$stru[4]; } $sep = ','; } } close (PIPE); $sql .= ' );'; $dbp-{RaiseError} = 0; $dbp-do( DROP TABLE $table ); $dbp-{RaiseError} = 1; $dbp-do( $sql ); my $sth = $dbf-prepare( SELECT * FROM .basename($fname) ); $sth-execute; while (my @row = $sth-fetchrow_array()) { $sql = INSERT INTO $table VALUES ; $sep = (; foreach my $fld (@row) { $sql .= $sep .$dbp-quote($fld); $sep = ,; } $sql .= ' );'; $dbp-do( $sql ); } $sth-finish; } Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
Hi I have this dbase IV database which I use in Delphi 3. Can this DBF used in mdk9.1. Maybe how? Kylix3? I would really appreciate some pointers here please. Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] superuser single command (su -c ??????????)
Hi, With your suggestion the user part falls away and all the following work fine su --c shutdown -r now su -c cp foo foo1 su -c rm -ir tmp Well if you know its easy - couldnot see this option in man page. Thanks enjoy Johan *** - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] superuser single command (su -c ??) On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 16:20, Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi, Sometimes while being a user you need to do a command that only su can do. While stdying su it seems there is a way to do this. I have problems to make some work. su -c gedit root foo opens gedit in su mode not as foo but as untitled - you can save it as foo. su -c ./foo root This runs the script. su -c cp root foo foo1 this does not work - complains and needs more than I can provide - do not know what. su -c shutdown root -r now Does not work - complains -r wrong option. now su command construction something like this... su [option] [-] [user] [ARG] It would be really nice to do complex commands. Please what am I missing Thanks Johan May this be a good day for learning Try: su -c 'your command within quotes' Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Making file excecutable
Hi, I have written some scripts in gedit to mount and umount my other linux flavours on my system. Do not want them in fstab OK I did chmod 755 to them and now they show up green. Can be executed with ./xx. They are in my home directory. What I would like to do is.. 1. execute them from anywhere 2. Drag them om my user screen and exec from there. I know this is possible but missing something. Please some help. Thanks Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Multiboot using BRUB
Hi, First THANKS to members giving me pointers and site addresses while I was learning GRUB.(Still learning) This is for members new to linux GRUB. This is a WONDERFULL bootloader - (LILO is fine.) If you start to understand its workings you can produce magic with it. Make a GRUB bootdisk - copy your HD menu.lst to it. Now your MBR on your first HD/or whatever with the list may get wiped/corrupted(sometimes it even do not need any reason at all) and you can still boot any of your OS'ses on any partition/drive from this bootdisk with no problem - it will seem it is from HD. If you have to make a choice - choose GRUB. If you are a LILO user you can still change to GRUB - with some STUDY it is easy - on Mandrake/Redhat it is already installed - check for /boot/grub/menu.lst - need only to be activated - again please - first it needs some study. * For those interested please find attched a copy of my menu.lst - All work fine exceept the one with Problem. Probably need some more study. Viewing this file you can see how many dos and linux partitions can be booted - according to papers there is actually no limit. * Enjoy Johan . May this be a good day for learning timeout 10 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,4)/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd0,4)/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.once default 0 title Mandrake9.1-hde5 kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde5 quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img title linux-nonfb kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde5 devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img title failsafe kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde5 failsafe devfs=nomount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img # title redhat9.0-hde7 kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 root=/dev/hde7 initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img # title linux9.0-hdg6 kernel (hd1,5)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdg6 initrd (hd1,5)/boot/initrd.img # title Dos-hde1 root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 title Dos-hdg1 unhide (hd1,0) hide (hd1,1) hide (hd1,2) root (hd1,0) map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) makeactive chainloader +1 # title Dos-hdg2 hide (hd1,0) unhide (hd1,1) hide (hd1,2) root (hd1,1) map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) chainloader +1 makeactive # title Dos-hdg3 hide (hd1,0) hide (hd1,1) unhide (hd1,2) root (hd1,2) map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) makeactive chainloader +1 # title Dos-hdg-Problem hide (hd1,0) hide (hd1,1) hide (hd1,2) unhide (hd1,4) root (hd1,4) map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) makeactive chainloader +1 # title floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tricking linux to accept changed partition
Hi, This is for experimentation. Setup : 2 HD's - hde hdg .Mdk9.0 on second HD - hdg6 Remove drive one. Using GRUB bootdisk - booting hdg6 which is now changed to hde6. Before this (after file backup) I edited the fstab that the references to the previous partiton hdg6 now is hde6.(Wel I think it should be hde - I have no way to find out- no system running) When booting I edit the references in this menu-option to refer to (hd0,5) hde6. It boots fine untill it displays : kernel panic . No init found. Try passing init=options to kernel. Ok if all is normal this line should read INIT : version xxx Well even before this some other errors creep in - like from mounting reiserfs it becomes a lot of errors.(If mounting failed then no file can be found?) OK this is absolutely new ground to me - know nothing about kernel parrams/etc. When this happened the first time I did the fstab changes hoping this wil trick the kernel. (ha-ha). System search revealed several int files/directories several places. Cat the one in /etc/sysconfig/init refers to colors and some stuff but no partition. When does fstab come in while booting. I also tried mapping but only one drive - map to what?. It is easy to trick DOS. It seems that a lot more or not possible to trick linux. Maybe there is to much involved that makes linux drive and partition specific. If this means a major overhaul it will not be worth the effort. Like a new install or whatever if this situation arises. Please what else need be edited or whatever to make this work?. Maybe I am expecting to much? Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root
OK this can be done - but I think - if you knew how you would probably not do it - you can compromise your system to bad people.(Do not even think it will NOT happen to you) I now it is a hassle to to use console and you would rather use GUI. I asume that you are new to this according to your question. Here is some suggestions to avoid that. Change to console. Use su then password or su - (with a minus)then password - the last one makes the root environment available. Should you like GUI (like in home on your screen) type konqueror - there now you can move around in your system like root. Can open files by right clicking and using open with...a lot of editors available. Should you like to to edit a file in console- move to the directory then like .. gedit foo.conf ( or any other text editor ..kwrite and more) you can edit/print/save/whatever like root. while you are in console-root you may move/access any directory or file - now again do not access files you do not know what they do - you can make your system in-operable. Now when you close console all root privileges are gone and system safe. Need more info - please feel free to ask Enjoy Johan * - Original Message - From: Tsyko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: [newbie] root Good day how can i set my user up with root privileges? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] superuser single command (su -c ??????????)
Hi, Sometimes while being a user you need to do a command that only su can do. While stdying su it seems there is a way to do this. I have problems to make some work. su -c gedit root foo opens gedit in su mode not as foo but as untitled - you can save it as foo. su -c ./foo root This runs the script. su -c cp root foo foo1 this does not work - complains and needs more than I can provide - do not know what. su -c shutdown root -r now Does not work - complains -r wrong option. now su command construction something like this... su [option] [-] [user] [ARG] It would be really nice to do complex commands. Please what am I missing Thanks Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] recognizing Windows
May I make some suggestions Before you change anything in fstab please make backup. The dir name in /mnt is win_c in this case - you can create any dir name you like - after install I usualy create my own dirs like win-hda1 , dos-hde1 , man90-hde5, etc. Then I edit the fstab with the new names - two choices - umount the edited partitions and then mount -a or reboot. Now delete the old names in /mnt. Your case - use win_c - now test this first before editing fstab You may also use fdisk -l /dev/hda to check that you have your info correct. mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c The type must be correct (vfat, etc). This should work and you should now use mount and will see this partition displayed with the rest.(at bottom) I only make changes in fstab and I have no problems. In fstab add line like.. /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat defaults The type of system like vfat, ext2 ,reiserfs is importend here. This always works for me - the system is smart enough to mount correctly. Now umount /mnt/win_c *** mount look if out on list. Now mount -a mount see on screen if it is there you are OK. Now is this partition in your /etc/lilo.conf or GRUB menu.lst If you want to boot it - it must be added. Enjoy Johan ** - Original Message - From: Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] recognizing Windows On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 13:01, Eric Huff wrote: On 06 Jul 2003 12:39:18 -0500 Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hda1 (C:) wasn't connected during my last install, so I'm trying to get Linux to recognize it. I've created the /win_c: dir in /mnt and edited fstab and mtab with: /dev/hda8 /mnt/win_c: vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 and rebooted. Still when I click the win_c: icon in a file mgr, no files are shown. Shouldn't that be /dev/hda1 ? You shouldn't need to reboot: just mount /mnt/win_c: Also, you might want to get rid of the : just for confusion's sake. Here is another example of install differences: 1st time mine was /mnt/win_c, next time /mnt/windows eric Thanks Eric, Got it (mostly) sorted out :-) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problem accessing floppy
Hi, After making a bootdisk with GRUB per instructions- (the bootdisk works fine)- I am not able to access the disk after reboot if mounted like : /mnt/floppy It seems to mount but if you say like ls then after a lot of activity you get i/o error. Eventually after a lot of grief I tried to mount like : mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy Now you may access. For info : the first of the instructions to make this bootdisk is : mke2fs /dev/fd0. Question why - other times you stick in a floppy mount and access. Is it the file system that now forces you to mount the floppy like a partition? Please any ideas. Thanks Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printing man pages
Thanks Guys, This is new ground to me - I will be trying your suggestions Johan ** - Original Message - From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Printing man pages On Tuesday 01 Jul 2003 10:38 am, Robin Turner wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 06:43, Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi, At the moment I use this command to print man pages... man lilo | col -b | lpr This is fine if it is only one or two pages. I do not seem to be able to redirect it to ordinary file Why - then I may be able to use a editor and be able to print first odd -reverse -then even - this will then use both sides of paper - save a lot off paper and also make my paper files smaller. Thanks Johan Do it like this: man lilo | col -b lilo_manpage.ps Then, you can open a nice postscript viewer/editor and make it all pretty and then print it at leisure! (or save it to view as you desire, or change it into an HTML file for indexing on your system) or try piping it through a2ps, which will format it nicely for you (check out man a2ps - there are tons of formatting options). Erm.. man has an option to output postscript. man -t lilo lilo_manpage.ps ghostview lilo_manpage.ps (man -t complains about a couple of fonts, but it works OK.) That gives you all the nice bold/italic highlighting etc. that you lose with col. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem accessing floppy
See my posting to make your own tests JOHAN - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problem accessing floppy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing grub on floppy
Hi, I would like to install GRUB on a floppy. The command on a multiboot howto give this-- grub-install '(fd0)' GRUB not very happy with this On the GRUB man this is the command grub --install-partition=PAR I can not find the correct sequence of the option? Somewhere the floppy should be in the option How do -partition be considered? =PAR I do this from /boot/grub Please kindly if possible the correct way to do the option for floppy I do it from the HD what I was supposed to do from floppy - it works - every time have to remove drive 1 to do on drive 2 -put back drive 1 etc- quite a nuisance -but I would like the floppy way for testing. Thanks Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printing man pages
Hi, At the moment I use this command to print man pages... man lilo | col -b | lpr This is fine if it is only one or two pages. I do not seem to be able to redirect it to ordinary file Why - then I may be able to use a editor and be able to print first odd -reverse -then even - this will then use both sides of paper - save a lot off paper and also make my paper files smaller. Thanks Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS
This is why linux is so good - there are so many different ways to reach the same point. If it works for you, sure thats good. I am glad for the stuff I learned from this experiment. Johan - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi John, I installed mdk9.1 three times. Option auto / expert never came up. Insert CD1 , run to splash screen, choose F1, run to prompt, type expert, then enter, gives you expert install in graphical mode(or whaterver) Option to config or skip bootloader will came up after 3rd disk. How ? ONLY on 2nd and 3rd install. How ? It seems that on first time around you have no choice? As one would expect ! The next config option for bootloader will come up on the bottom of the screen Which window ? where you can config a lot of stuff. Select this option and on the screen that appear select ADVANCE I know it, to be able to select option for bootdisk. After bootdisk is made you have option to config lilo - here you have to make some choices. Choices ? If you are not succesful here and you have a bootdisk you can modify the lilo.conf after reboot. Well yes, but it would be better not to install lilo at all on second attempt. Here you have to look closely to configuration manner see below for this installation.. Refer to my previous postings sure, Please after first install and reboot mark this install somewhere so that you will know which is which. They look the same and is very confusing. I always do. Also mark the second install. Should you mount the non-live OS you must use full path to move around in it. Well all this goes in your final active /etc/lilo.conf to either boot one, and mount the other as the case may be. I just want the active /etc/lilo.conf to be the first M9.1 install and remain so. It is not really importend which partition is installed first and that the lilo is written to MBR the next will overwrite it. Youcann ot stop this then ? What is importent is the way your lilo.conf will be written in the end - by mdk or yourself. yes and no, depends if your happy with booting off the lilo.conf of the second M9.1 install. Suggest - cd /etc su. Now there is some ways to use lilo. Like - to see how now -- lilo -q To see if your changes is legal without changing -- lilo -t If you need more info lilo -t -v. Be sure to backup your file before changes. I enjoyed this testing - this is how I found out when to make bootdisk before rebooting install and it also made me more confident. Enjoy Johan OK, now this, Look closely to this image and initrd* image=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/vmlinuz label=linuxhde7 root=/dev/hde7 initrd=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img read-only This looks really wierd to me, I'm not sure if I understand it. image=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/vmlinuz says, go look for the kernel to boot in /mnt/linuxhde-7 which must be some strange way of saying hde7 , boot directory, select kernel vmlinuz. and again, initrd=/mnt/linuxhde-7/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img use initrd in hde7 's /boot directory. Now would this also work for me when I have a /boot partition.(hda5 if my memory serves me correctly)? Which means all kernel and initrd files are in /dev/hda5 (or whaterver) So I have the simpler task of writing all /etc/lilo.conf entries to use kernel and init.rd files in the same /dev/hda5(or whatever). I still think my way is easier, keep to the one /boot partition, where all these files go for all the linux OS's, and what is more the installer puts them there automatically. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Booting dos + dos + linux
Sorry I expressed myself badly. I want to boot this with lilo. Johan - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Booting dos + dos + linux Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi, I am trying to to install and boot dos + dos + linux with lilo. This is just for learning. Don't bother, you cannot, Windblows has to be in charge of all it's own booting, therfore lilo hands it over to windblows. I read thruogh all lilo docs and manual but I do not seam to find it. Maybe it is there but I do not understand. I done the following. Create 2 dos primary partitions - dos fdisk refuses. Done it with part/Magic - if you try now fdisk marks it non-dos - refuses to make it active so can not install dos on second pri part. Funny dos is quite happy to install 2 same dos versions if the second part is is logical. The problem now is that lilo can not boot the second dos. Lilo is quite happy to boot dos - linux - linux. It's not lilo it's dos that's not happy. Technically it is possible to boot all linux OS's from windblows bootloader, I did it once a long time ago, but frankly it's not worth it , it's tedious and time consuming to do and the lilo/dos chain bootloader method is far easier and more convenient. No stilck to lilo - windblows. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS
So there it is hiding - on my system and CD if I press F1 the system hangs forever and even enter will not work. Have to reset system but enter works when pressed first - this is a downloaded version of mdk9.1 I buy from a firm that sells them. Any ideas why? Thanks Johan - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual-boot same OS Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi John, I installed mdk9.1 three times. Option auto / expert never came up. Insert CD1 , run to splash screen, choose F1, run to prompt, type expert, then enter, gives you expert install in graphical mode(or whaterver) snip Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive
Hi John, OK I do not no about w2k but I had win XP and MD8.0 run together for 6 months until the drive crashed - no fault of the OS's - after replacement I use them seperate. While it was working it worked fine. It was a cleaen drive to start - I used partition magic to partition the disk. Like.. hda1 - win xp hda5 - MD8.0 hda6 - swap Installed win xp first then MD8.0 This is to let linux detect OS's and config lilo and write to MBR What now happens is when pick win xp on GUI it start win xp loader and there you pick again if req. If you pick linux then it start. ** In your case lets asume clean drive. Ok you can partition as follow. hda1 - w2k hda2 - extended partition hda5 - linux flavour 1 hda6 - swap ( only one for both flavours they wont be running at the same time - mine works like that) hda7 - linux flavour 2.. Maybe a dos partition after hda2 for a transfer area between the OS's - linux can read vfat 16, 32 but i do not now other flavours and visa versa.. You need a common denominator to transfer stuf around - I use dos partition for that reason. If you do this then part no's change. * Again if it is a clean drive you can use linux to patition the drive as suggested - then install first flavour in EXPERT mode to HDA5 or 7 - (it does not really matter) - to prevent MD to write the MBR. Now install w2k on HDA1.(it will write to MBR) Then install flavour 2 to your open linux partition - now you may use auto install - you need to let it detect and config lilo and write MBR. Be sure to make boot disks. Now if all go to plan your last install wil be in charge of booting. Maybe you may need my example of lilo.conf to correct your config. If this is a LIVE disk you need someting like partition magic it works very nice BUT it failed me once. Maybe linux can partition live drive - I do not know. Then do as suggested and install. *** Now something interesting - I read it in a linux mag and tried it - it works. If you have a second drive - you can create there a partiton to put the swap or /home - and maybe more I only tried this. *** Ok if all this works you may access the other flavour from the live flavour by mounting it manually (would not advize to put it in fstab). What is importend here if you accessed the not live then you can not do like cd /boot it will revert to live one - you MUST do like cd /manx/root then it will move inside the not live flavour. Ok I have these rack and trays and seven HD's of diiferent makes and size. My Importent 2 drives I keep save - the rest I do experiment with. Trust the above will be of assistance. Feel free to ask if you need more info - it is difficult to know what you need. Enjoy Johan - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi to John Richard Smith , snip Thanks, I understand this completely. You are installing 3 quite different OS's on one or more hard drive, fine. But what if your installing, W2k, M9.1 , and another M9.1 on the same hard drive. The second M9.1 to be used purely for updating with latest cooker updates. How do you do that ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Multiboot on same drive
Hi to John Richard Smith , May the following be of assistance - it is part of a previous message I posted.. This is more detailed than the one posted earlier today - use them both.. snip Something else I would like to point out - I used Mandrake9.1 install partitioning to do the disk - when it reached apps to install I reset the PC. I prefer mandrake partitioninig - more friendly for me. This is for information only to someone who may need it. Have installed 3 OS's on one disk - see below I installed dos - then - redhat - then - mandrake. Do not forget make boot disks. They do not see each other or use each others partitions unless mounted. When I installed redhat I let it install lilo - when you install mandrake it will owerwrite the MBR with its version and this way you can test out redhat before you continue. Mandrake was last - I found in the past that mandrake is good at detecting OS,s and configuring them in lilo. This time detected but used mandrakes linuz initrd. All examples refer to my setup. This just show the drive setup. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hde1 * 1 101 811251 6 FAT16 - Dos /dev/hde2 102 2494 19221772+ 5 Extended /dev/hde5 102 1261 9317668+ 83 Linux --Redhat8.0 /dev/hde6 1262 1362 811251 82 Linux swap -for both /dev/hde7 1363 2494 9092758+ 83 Linux --Mandrake9.1 What is importend for this to work is the following after all installs done.. 1. With Mandrake loaded.(your last installation) 2. Su in console. 3. mkdir /mnt/redhat. 4. mount -t ext3 /dev/hde /mnt/redhat - THIS IS VERY IMPORTEND otherwise it will just NOT work. If redhat is not mounted by fstab (I dont do - only on console when needed) If you should run lilo -v on another day - repeat 4. 5. cd /etc 6. gedit lilo.conf 7. add the lines as below and save. 8. lilo -v. ( MBR ). 9. What is importend add /mnt/redhat to image and initrd - if you leave it out at initrd -- command lilo -v will complain : fatal: no such file or directory. After a lot of grief I realized this. snip image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 label=Redhat root=/dev/hde5 initrd=/mnt/redhat/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img read-only Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
hi, I run XP and Mandrake 9 on same drive - LILO my bootloader. On installing Mandrake it picked up XP and configured it LILO was written to MBR. What I found was that Mandrake and LILO do a better job on discovering and config of additional OS's than Redhat. Now when I boot GUI come up - pick windows and then XP loader comes up - there you go. My system works fine. ** Here is something I did on the PC of my wife(MS win 95 only)drive - I installed a second drive as slave - installed Mandrake on 2nd drive - Mand/LILO picked up all - BUT wrote the configuration to the 1st (primary MBR) drvie. Now if you remove slave( permanent) the LILO boot up still works for Winlinux. To get rid of this - in dos fdisk /MBR and you are back to MS - on XP you will probably need the repair function to correct this. Refer to my letter on list - to multi boot - you can boot more than 2 OS'S on 1 drive. Refer to position of drive on cable - can NOT cunfuse win or linux - (unless your PC is ancient - when you had you set links on drive correct position on cable and some dip switches) it will be your BIOS that may get confused. BUT CAREFULL if you move your drive hda to hdb or hdc and make it your boot by removing all in front boot up- linux WILL get confused (windows in this case do not care everything just become C again.Sorry for linux but this is true) Set the hardware BIOS detection all of it on auto - it will work fine. I chop and change drives(7 HD's) at will (only drive link importend) and it works every time.I have these mobile rack and trays. To make this easy set your cdrom/s to slave and all harddrives to master. If you have 2 cdroms then each as slave one on a cable with a harddrive. Trust this may help you to decide. Johan *** - Original Message - From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how? On Saturday 21 June 2003 08:58 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: which drive would i make the primary drive? my thought is that i'd make the 100GB drive the primary drive, as the computer would have to access linux before windows to give me the dual boot option, correct? Actually, Windows needs to be first, or at least it used to. I don't know about XP. I recall that Windows ignores all partitions above the first one it doesn't recognize, so I always put windows on first, create my shared partition and then put linux on the end of the drive. Secondly...does the drive's position on the ribbon matter? i'm running 2 things on that ribbon currently, the 20GB drive and my CDRW drive. this is only the first computer i've owned that i've actually torn apart and put back together hardware wise, once while trouble shooting for a defective sound card, the other time doing a case swap. so i'm not all that familiar with hooking up new hardware. You're best bet, as long as you don't need to do a lot of disk to disk copying, is to put your optical drives on a seperate channel from your hard drives. This is especially true of CDRW drives, where you want to maximize the data throughput from your hard drives to the burner. Putting them on the same channel could create bottlenecks when you burn a cd. So I would make the disk drives hda and hdb and let the cdrw be hdc. i know if i make the 100GB drive the primary, i have to switch the jumper on the 20GB drive to make it the secondary. and a final question.i'm running an ASUS KV7-RM motherboard that has all the bios updates done to it, so that's a plus, but will i have to enter the bios settings once i plug the new drive in? Maybe, maybe not. It depends on what your bios settings are now. Some people indicate none in the unused channels to speed up their boots. As long as everything in the bios is set to autodetect, then you shouldn't have to do anything, but if it is not, you may have to go in there and change some settigngs. as far as how i'm going to work with linuxi havn't decided if i'm giong to do a fresh install and wipe out the old install or if i'm going to try to move the current install to the new drive (someone already gave me a link that explains how to do that). that's something i'll decide for myself once i get to that point. You could always try to move it for the learning experience and if you screw up you can still reinstall. As far as partition sizes go, 80 gig is way too much for Linux. You are better off setting up your linux partitions in 10-15GB, and then creating a fat32 partition with the rest to share your data between windows and linux. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] re re mnt/winc
Hi, OK lets usume you use mandrake 9.1 (older versions differ in some respects) When booting it goes to the user selected on install. On KDE. Right click on mouse - select logout. On GNOME select start logout. Now it goes to where different user may logon This if you installed more than one user otherwise you will be there only. Now here is 3 options 1..select other user (NO option for ROOT) 2.. REBOOT - if selected it MAY have a dropdown list to select way of rebooting. Why I say may - sometimes the dropdown list is empty - if empty then select HALT. 3 .HALT If above is all hash - then use* alt - cntrl -del * this will - if it works reboot. OR Open console - su - password - shutdown -r (or -h) now. If nothing of the above works - sorry beyond my scope Now this not recommended - switch off. Johan - Original Message - From: Mike Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 2:41 AM Subject: [newbie] re re mnt/winc From a terminal, cd to /mnt/win_d. Now type mkdir test. Post any errors. Also, I can boot to linux, I cannot reboot, shutdown the computer or change user from linux. Here I am not sure what you mean. How are you trying to reboot/shutdown? How are you trying to change users? Logout and log back in from the Login Manager? -- No errors when I made the test file. I use kde as my gui, and logout etcetera is done through the kde menu. I have upgraded my installation daily so I have the latest updates running. Any ideas anyone? cheers, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] No response on questions
Hi A while back a member complained about no response to questions. I take it none had a something to say. I do understand his frustration ( being new to this)- I also had some questions - no response. Now I have pondered on this issue. Now should every one who see a question/s should reply sorry no help - This system will COMPLETELY be overloaded. As it is if I skip a day or two I found up 785 messages waiting on server. I suggest - join more user groups and post again. Regards Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 bootdisk
Hi, I have a funny problem - if start up GUI - no problem-startup bootdisk it warns me that something will be removed - my cd writer. If try to acces cd-writer - complain io access problem. In console mount /mnt/cdrom no problem but try to access then problem. Eventualy I went to the control centre - mount points and set it again - then how to setup cdrom and reset it - then it works - only after rebooting - then it warns you something is installed my cd-writer. Now it works - if you reboot without resetting in control centre no dice. Is this a bug or maybe only my system? Any one care to explain. Thanks Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake or Redhat not complete boot
Hi, Here is something I also discovered by accident and I want to share. Still using Man 8.0 for a quite a while suddenly it refused to boot past confiuring TIME - it will hang there forever. This happens to all flavours I have. The install disks not affected by this.(Thank goodness) After installing and all hot reboots it will work fine. If you switch off then boot it hangs by TIME again. After the second reinstall and this problem I reset PC and when GUI came up I for no reason clicked on Dos. After alt-cont-del the system rebooted and there she goes. Now every time from cold boot I first have to pick dos then A-C-D and it work every time. Please is there a reason that after long use this happens. I suppose it must be somethihg to do with the PC timer?? PC about 2.5 yrs old. Thanks Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Multiboot -dos -redhat -mandrake
Hi, I would like to thank Derek Jennings and FemmeFatale for the replies. I am sorry if the old hands find this a bit over kill but for beginners like me this is good. I want to add that I also needed to print and read about 70 pages from lilo htm and pdf files. Something else I would like to point out - I used Mandrake9.1 install partitioning to do the disk - when it reached apps to install I reset the PC. I prefer mandrake partitioninig - more friendly for me. This is for information only to someone who may need it. Have installed 3 OS's on one disk - see below I installed dos - then - redhat - then - mandrake. Do not forget make boot disks. They do not see each other or use each others partitions unless mounted. When I installed redhat I let it install lilo - when you install mandrake it will owerwrite the MBR with its version and this way you can test out redhat before you continue. Mandrake was last - I found in the past that mandrake is good at picking up OS,s and configuring them in lilo. This time picked up but used mandrakes linuz initrd. Derek's reply eventualy put me on the track. Thanks. All examples refer to my setup. This just show the drive setup. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hde1 * 1 101 811251 6 FAT16 - Dos /dev/hde2 102 2494 19221772+ 5 Extended /dev/hde5 102 1261 9317668+ 83 Linux --Redhat8.0 /dev/hde6 1262 1362 811251 82 Linux swap -for both /dev/hde7 1363 2494 9092758+ 83 Linux --Mandrake9.1 What is importend for this to work is the following after all installs done.. 1. With Mandrake loaded. 2. Su in console. 3. mkdir /mnt/redhat. 4. mount -t ext3 /dev/hde /mnt/redhat - THIS IS VERY IMPORTEND otherwise it will just NOT work. If redhat is not mounted by fstab (I dont do - only on console when needed) If you should run lilo -v on another day - repeat 4. 5. cd /etc 6. gedit lilo.conf 7. add the lines as below and save. 8. lilo -v. ( MBR ). 9. What is importend add /mnt/redhat to image and initrd - if you leave it out at initrd -- command lilo -v will complain : fatal: no such file or directory. After a lot of grief I realized this. snip image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 label=Redhat root=/dev/hde5 initrd=/mnt/redhat/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img read-only Enjoy Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot -dos -redhat -mandrake
Hi Anne, Furher to that I am now able to boot 3 hard-drives with 7 different partitions 7 OS's - I am going to try a fourth harddrive - I read LILO can handle 3 drives if the BIOS allows it. OK my system have 8 ata ports due to a Ultra dma ide card I inserted with its own BIOS - done about 2 months ago. Thats maybe a 4 th drive may work I am getting a lot of respect for linux and LILO.(used to MS). Yes will do after this test. Did not know about that site - Thanks. I will go look see how its done on that web site. Johan - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiboot -dos -redhat -mandrake On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 4:45 pm, Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi, I would like to thank Derek Jennings and FemmeFatale for the replies. I am sorry if the old hands find this a bit over kill but for beginners like me this is good. snipped much useful info Johan, that was a very thorough explanation of what you needed to do, and as such will help others when they search the archives. If you could tackle it, I would like to ask you to put your explanation on the community TWiki pages, to make it accessible to all users. They are at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome Could you do that? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Multiple boot
Hi, I have 3 OS on 1 drive /dev/hde 1 = Dos /dev/hde1 2 = Redhat 9.0/dev/hde5 3 = Mandrake 9.1/dev/hde7 swap = /dev/hde6 Why /dev/hde and not hda - I use ultra dma ide card Installed - dos -then -redhat- then -mandrake Usually Mandrake pickup everything nicely like what is on hde and hdg and config LILO without problem BUT I have not previously installed a 3rd OS on same drive. I know how with 2 OS on first and 2 OS on second drive. I am sure it is possible because I understand that LILO can handle up to 16 OS's and 2 drives. Mandrake did config redhat on hde5 but with mandrake image and init - If redhat is picked on GUI it can not complete the boot. I do not seem to be able to find info on my sort of setup. There is a lot NT/linux - windows/linux. Kindly please I need the part to insert in LILO to boot redhat from GUI boot startup. Redhat works fine if I use the bootdisk I made with installation. It so slow. All this is experimenting and on a spare drive so if I have to reinstall everything OK fine - I have the time and thats how I learn. Thanks Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake DOCS URPMI
Hi, While following a lead by Eric I found the following that may be of value to some: If your are a MEMBER of Mandrake club the Mandrake docs my be found here : Version 8.xx up to 9.1 : http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake_doc-en.html http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/ByName.html If NOT a member try this one for docs only up to 9.0: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/MByName.html If you need the command to update live via the net with command line URPMI then try this one: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php Johan . May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.1 user manuals are available
Thats nice You maybe have the web-address please Thanks Johan - Original Message - From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: [newbie] mandrake 9.1 user manuals are available For anyone interested in the downloadable manuals, i just stumbled on them rpm'ing. mandrake_doc-en Version: 9.1-2mdk Size: 18715 KB Source: main Currently installed version: (none) eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re : urpmi mail-list
Hi, I would like to also join the urpmi mail-list Could someone kindly point me in the right direction Thanks Regards Johan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 sound
Hi, I have a ALS4000 sound card Mandrake did 9.0 pick up and it worked fine. Mandrake 9.1 seem to pick it but does not install?? / configure??? it. Going thruogh control center - its there - but no dice. Kindly some advice - please some details Regards Johan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] re : urpmi mail list
Hi, I would like to also join the urpmi mail-list Could someone kindly point me in the right direction Thanks Regards Johan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Test
Anybody receive this please ??? Johan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 -Root
Hi, Is there a reason why after logout of startup user not able to log in as root - can only login as users - I liked it in Mandrake 9.0 - nice GUI to modify whatever. - I am only user stand-alone pc Is there a way to do it like in 9.0.- or (maybe should create user with root privilages?? - is this correct/possible??) Please some pointers will help. Thanks Regards Johan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re Mandrake 9.1 - root
Hi, Is there a reason why after logout of startup user not able to log in as root - can only login as users - I liked it in Mandrake 9.0 - nice GUI to modify whatever. - I am only user stand-alone pc Is there a way to do it like in 9.0.- or (maybe should create user with root privilages?? - is this correct/possible??) Please some pointers will help. Thanks Regards Johan May this be a day full of learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 - root
Hi Ronald, This is the same as the writers of handbooks and help/man/files- usuming reader know. Ok, system startsup correct to user say johan From here start terminal I can change to su and do whatever I want - all interminal mode via user johan Logout johan system go to GUI where you can pick available users - click on photo - enter paswd - you login as say programs In Man 9.0 you could enter root without picking a user and go GUI as root. But in Man 9.1 you can only pick common user photo's. Best I can explain. Johan * - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Johan Scheepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Re : Mandrake 9.1 -Root On Sunday 08 June 2003 10:28 am, Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi, Is there a reason why after logout of startup user not able to log in as root - can only login as users - I liked it in Mandrake 9.0 - nice GUI to modify whatever. - I am only user stand-alone pc Is there a way to do it like in 9.0.- or (maybe should create user with root privilages?? - is this correct/possible??) Please some pointers will help. Thanks Regards Johan Let me make sure I've got this right - you can't login as root? Does it get past the KDE stuff then sit with a spinning mouse cursor? If so, then in your regular user account (with X running) open a shell, go to su, type in kcontrol, then go to look 'n feel. From there pick behavior and check/uncheck the buttons for icons on the desktop, and the mounted ones. One combo of these will allow your root account to start up right. If you just can't login as root at all - then I can't help. Hope this does help ya though! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ May this be a day full of learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Utility to keep internet connection busy
Adolfo, I still learning - kindly explain in more detail - I do not know anything about cron jobs. Will this cronjob keep sending messages so that no idle time come in to play? Johan ** - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Utility to keep internet connection busy On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 14:45, Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi, Is there a utillity that you can activate to keep internet connection busy while going eat/town/anywhere. South Africa - callmore time - infinit call - you can go on internet friday 1900 up to monday 0700 for R7.00. I would not like to change setting for idle time if possible. Thanks Johan A cron job calling lynx to access a web page will do it. Something like lynx -dump http://www.foobar.com HTH -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //mobile: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax : +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re : urpmi mailing list
Hi, Is there a mailing list for urpmi - for questions/answers? Thankyou Johan May this be a good day for learning Hi, Is there a mailing list for urpmi - for questions/answers? Thankyou Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com