Re: [newbie] Unreal Tournament...
I don't really know what I'm talking about, because I haven't tried any games in Linux yet, but, since you have a Voodoo, shouldn't you be using Glide? UT runs under Glide much better. Is the problem that there isn't any Glide support under Linux? I don't really know so I'm just asking. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:30 AM Subject: [newbie] Unreal Tournament... Okay, it appears to be that same old problem. I have a Voodoo 3000 card, and all these games work: Quake3 (demo) Soldier of Fortune Terminus Descent3 HeavyGear2 They find, or I can point them to, libGL.so.1 (or in Q3's case, the MesaVoodooGL file) and they all work fine. Not UT. Well, it appears to find libGL.so.1 but its like s slow...I changed the .ini file in /home/darklord/.loki/ut/system multiple times, pointing it to: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (actually, I pointed it at every libGL* file in there!) /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 /home/darklord/Games/Unreal/ref_gl.so /home/darklord/Games/Unreal/libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.2 and so on, and so on... Anyone else got UT working? I have v428, and applied both patches, 428 and 428a, so... Thanks in advance! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
Unfortunately for you, most companies today, and even Linux developers, would not like such practices among their programmers. For the same reason that a good programmer comments their code. Are you always going to be there to fix problems? I don't think so. 9 out of 10 developers would pick the programmer who wrote well-structured and readable (albeit slower) code, over the programmer who wrote hard to follow, yet faster, code. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "List Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:51 AM Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.] Self modifying code. The only use I found for this on a z80 was speed. It DAD nagging me yto go to bed Self modifying code is SERIOUSLY useful for memory reasons too. Allow me to give you a brief example. I once had to re-write a system that performed around 40 different calculations depending on the type of data received. Conventional programming (which was the way the original was written) would have had a subroutine for each case, with tests to check which one to jump to. Self modifying code allowed me to write one block of code, with NO jumps or tests - the code changed itself based on the input data. The net result was a program that ran MANY times faster, and took up nearly 95% less memory. The users LOVED it! My successor HATED it... #;-D Regards, Ozz.
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
The problem today is that most programmers write for a wide set of hardware. That is what has a lot of developers excited about MS's XBox gaming console. It uses PC parts and is standarized. They can write for the metal (err..silicon) instead of having to use hardware abstraction layers. That is why the XBox and other consoles make do with much less resourcesbecause every machine is exactly the same. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "List Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.] Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote a simple but functioning accounting system in it :) One of my colleagues once tried to write a program to calculate the performance characteristics of large-bore oil hoses, and ran out of memory on a 16k machine. I then wrote the thing myself in ... wait for it ... 450 BYTES! Needless to say, it was completely devoid of any eye candy, but it worked (well, I wrote it in an evening...) Out of interest, what machines were you using? How long ago? Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there... Oh yes. Some of the memory saving tricks were neat too. I used to use existing constants to save precious register space (pi/pi for 1, pi-pi for 0, etc.). Another advantage to programming at that level was this: You knew the value of each op. code. You knew the location in which you stored it in memory. Therefore, you could use these codes for constants too. For example, if the instruction LDA (LoaD Accumulator) was 0fh (15 decimal) and you had stored that instruction in memory location 02ff, then you could call the value 15 by pointing to 02ff. Self-modifying code was fun too, especially when someone else tried to parse it #;-D I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so, can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than 500Kbytes. I can't wait to get back into it with Linux. One of these days Regards, Ozz.
[newbie] The finale of the linux vs. windows. vs. tanks batmobiles :)
STOP IT!! NONE OF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE OS WARS I'm writing a new OS right now in GW-BASIC in MS-DOS 3.3 that will 0wn linux. Seriously, I hope Linux does well, but, who knows? Do you all think that Windows is just going to be setting still and let Linux beat it's socks off? While some may not like ole' Bill G. you must admit that he is a smart man. Maybe he is not smart enough and Linux will rule. I very seriously doubt that either OS will be remotely recognizable in 10 years. If that is the case, then both Bill and Linus are a couple of morons and they won't matter anyway, because some other OS will have come along and dominated them. Oh, and I'm voting for Mickey Mouse. dwyatt
Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Uh...the free tanks are hard to use. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush Yes, but what happens as more people notice the free tanks? Slowly their numbers gather and they become easier and easier to notice. Not seeing them would be like being next door to Woodstock and not noticing anything out of the ordinary. As each person comes to get their free tank they tell their friends and their friends are interested and want to try a free tank too. The numbers grow exponetially. Eventually only a few crackpots are still going to the station wagon and sedan dealers. A few may look at the batmobiles but then someone decides to make their tank look like a batmobile and suddenly everyone who wants a batmobile just takes their free tank and presses a newly installed shiny little button and their tank turns into a batmobile. Woo. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the entire article in its entirety =) enjoy!! (I appologize for the formatting) comments? MGBs, TANKS, AND BATMOBILES Around the time that Jobs, Wozniak, Gates, and Allen were dreaming up these unlikely schemes, I was a teenager living in Ames, Iowa. One of my friends' dads had an old MGB sports car rusting away in his garage. Sometimes he would actually manage to get it running and then he would take us for a spin around the block, with a memorable look of wild youthful exhilaration on his face; to his worried passengers, he was a madman, stalling and backfiring around Ames, Iowa and eating the dust of rusty Gremlins and Pintos, but in his own mind he was Dustin Hoffman tooling across the Bay Bridge with the wind in his hair. In retrospect, this was telling me two things about people's relationship to technology. One was that romance and image go a long way towards shaping their opinions. If you doubt it (and if you have a lot of spare time on your hands) just ask anyone who owns a Macintosh and who, on those grounds, imagines him- or herself to be a member of an oppressed minority group. The other, somewhat subtler point, was that interface is very important. Sure, the MGB was a lousy car in almost every way that counted: balky, unreliable, and underpowered. But it was fun to drive. It was responsive. Every pebble on the road was felt in the bones, every nuance in the pavement transmitted instantly to the driver's hands. He could listen to the engine and tell what was wrong with it. The steering responded immediately to commands from his hands. To us passengers it was a pointless exercise in going nowhere--about as interesting as peering over someone's shoulder while he punches numbers into a spreadsheet. But to the driver it was an experience. For a short time he was extending his body and his senses into a larger realm, and doing things that he couldn't do unassisted. The analogy between cars and operating systems is not half bad, and so let me run with it for a moment, as a way of giving an executive summary of our situation today. Imagine a crossroads where four competing auto dealerships are situated. One of them (Microsoft) is much, much bigger than the others. It started out years ago selling three-speed bicycles (MS-DOS); these were not perfect, but they worked, and when they broke you could easily fix them. There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was something of a mystery. The big dealership responded by rushing a moped upgrade kit (the original Windows) onto the market. This was a Rube Goldberg contraption that, when bolted onto a three-speed bicycle, enabled it to keep up, just barely, with Apple-cars. The users had to wear goggles and were always picking bugs out of their teeth while Apple owners sped along in hermetically sealed comfort, sneering out the windows. But the Micro-mopeds were cheap, and easy to fix compared with the Apple-cars, and their market share waxed. Eventually the big dealership came out with a full-fledged car: a colossal station wagon (Windows 95). It had all the aesthetic appeal of a Soviet worker housing block, it leaked oil and blew gaskets, and it was an enormous success. A little later, they also came out with a hulking off-road vehicle intended for industrial users (Windows NT) which was no more beautiful than the station wagon, and only a little more reliabl
Re: [newbie] Trinux
qnx is the OS on the Netpliance I-opener dwyatt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Trinux www.qnx.com did the same thing along time ago its not that new qnx fits on a 3.5 floppy it has a browser a couple games and a basic word processing packet it can even hook up to the internet via modem or network, qnx however is working on creating a full os with even more features using this process of micro programming, it however their main contributor who started the program died of cancer i believe earlier this year, but he left as much info to his developers as possible to continue their work, by the way the current demo disk available does not access your hard drive. although im looking forward to future developments In a message dated 22-Sep-00 17:35:21 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everybody, Have you seen this?: http://trinux.sourceforge.net/ Trinux is a portable Linux distribution that boots from a single floppy disk, loads it packages from a FAT/Ext2 partition, floppy disks, or HTTP/FTP servers, and runs entirely in RAM.
Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------
It's my experience that pre-built systems are loaded so full of crap when you buy them, it's surprising they run at all. When friends of mine buy pre-built comps ( against my advice of couse :) ), I always just format the HD, re-install windoze, and then install just the software they want. I've actually benchmarked this with ZDBoP's suite of benchmarks, and seena 10-15% improvement. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Vic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:26 AM Subject: [newbie] Is it my imagination or-- Hello Linuxers. I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built systems tend to run better than a pre-built PC bought at like either "?triangle" or "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk? I noticed for myself that my hand-built system seems to run better than my roommate's pre-built system.
Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------
As much as I hate to cheer Microsoft, right now I'm running 4 instances of IE 5.5 and Outlook Express and am having no problems whatsoever. Before the 4.0 versions I used Netscape, but I switched to IE because it is much more stable on all the systems I use it on. Do you think there's any chance of MS release Internet Explorer for linux? :) dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Patti Wavinak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or-- Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better. Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not experiencing the problems that others are :-) And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned. I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself. Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it. Original Message On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Is it my imagination or--: Hello Linuxers. I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built systems tend to run better than a pre-built PC bought at like either "?triangle" or "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk? I noticed for myself that my hand-built system seems to run better than my roommate's pre-built system.
Re: [newbie] Typing special characters
Interesting, the US keyboards do not have such a key. All of the characters
you gave as examples ( { } [ ] \ | @ # ¬ ) are just secondary keys. I've
never seen a US keyboard with third-tier keys. Except for mini and laptop
keyboards.
dwyatt
- Original Message -
From: "Carolina Kohler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Typing special characters
Hi Larry,
I am in Lanzarote, Canary Islands, Spain (Atlantic Ocean, in
front of Marrocco - Africa) ; probably you haven't even heard of it, it's a
very
small volcanic island, the population is around 80.000 people, but loads of
tourists.
I have a normal keyboard, I guess it must be a Spanish one because it has
the
ñ, which is an exclusively spanish letter like in ESPAÑA. It also has 3
Microsoft keys, you know the ones that get you to the Start Menu in Windows
and
other things that I don't know, I've never used them.
In my keyboard there isn't a ~ key.
But there is a -Alt Gr- key, which is just next to the space bar on the
right,
you use it normally to type the third character of a key when it exists,
like:
{ } [ ] \ | @ # ¬
I supose there must be a key for the same purpose in other keyboards, even
if
they call it with a different name.
To type ~ , I have to click Alt Gr + 4 (but not in the numeric pad),
although
in the 4 key you can only see the 4 and the $ (this one you type it with
Shift+4), that's why I didn't find the way to type this character.
Cheers,
Carol^
El jue, 21 sep 2000, escribiste: It's ALT GR + 4 (on the upper
part of the keyboard, not on the numeric one on
I'm curious Carolyn, what's a "GR" key? Where are you anyway and what
sort of keyboard do you have?
Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] No user group!
Sorry, I can't help you out, since I live in the US. But, interestingly enough, I took a vacation in the UK this past summer and drove right through Mainstone. dwyatt - Original Message - From: Steve Maytum To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:27 PM Subject: [newbie] No user group! Hello everyone , I wonder if you can help me? I live in Maidstone , Kent(U.K.) I am a newbie and struggling. Is there a user group in the area? If not interested in setting one up? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Typing special characters
Um, the tilde key is right next to the "1" key. :) dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Carolina Kohler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: [newbie] Typing special characters Hi everybody, I have a sort of silly question: How do you type in Linux the following character: ~ In Windows or MS-DOS it's Alt-126, but that doesn't work in Linux, this time I've had to copy and paste it on this message. Thank you, Carol^
Re: [newbie] Typing special characters
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is an OS or BIOS provision, and not a feature of the keyboard itself. I used that feature for years in MS-DOS. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Larry Marshall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Typing special characters How do you type in Linux the following character: ~ Hold the shift key down and hit the key marked ~. On most keyboards it's just to the left of the 1. In Windows or MS-DOS it's Alt-126, but that doesn't work in Linux, this This is a keyboard mapping thing. The 126 is simply the number of that character in the ASCII character set. The standard IBM keyboard under Windows let's you get any character by pressing Alt and typing its number. I know of no equivalent in Linux. Cheers --- Larry Marshall
[newbie] Interesting dual-head action (no, i'm not talking porn :))
http://www5.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1322 Write up of getting a dual monitor setup to work in Linux with the Matrox G450.
Re: [newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100
As any overclocker will tell you, results vary. I am overclocking a PIII-500e to 750MHz. I have zero stability problems. It was no extra work to reach this level of overclocking. I am using a stock Intel HSF. All I had to do was set my front side bus to 150MHz, and BAM, my 225 dollar (at the time) CPU was performing faster than a 600 dollar CPU. In the past I've not been able to reach as high an overclock, but I ALWAYS avoid any stability problems, by dropping the FSB/multiplier until the system was stable. dwyatt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100 Newbies, I want to clarify a couple of points, given all of the discussions since my posting: having done modest overclocking (15%) I found it to be more trouble than it was worth overall (that is, the overclocking wasn't worth the time and effort spent solving instability problems a year and a half later). Yes, I liked the free performance. People seem very adament on this topic, and whether they have any experience seems secondary. Personally, I don't love or hate any group, overclockers included. I was reporting my direct experiences in response to a question. And let me add a further point in response to the equipment destruction messages I saw a while back: after I reset my CPU back to stock and thus cured my instability problems my system has remained stable and alive for almost 6 months now [I'm using it to compose this message]. Yes, as a computer technician I ran into overclocking, but I have not personally seen any distroyed equipment. I have heard of equipment damage happening. Likewise I have heard of people overclocking 25% and operating for years with no problems. I do not know people from either group. My own experience was completely stable operation with 15% overclocking, increasing instability after a year and a half *, successfully restoring my system, and continuing correctly clocked, again stable, with no failures after another nearly six months [no failures in the two years overall]. * a possibility that I had never heard of and that hadn't occured to me, hence my original posting to this group (equipment death I had heard of, but not just decline). And, yes, I have been in computers long enough to remember S-100 systems, and I briefly studied them before buying a Z80 based Osborne, the machine they invented the term lugable to describe. It screamed at 4 MHz. [Since it was basically not graphic as we now understand the term, it really was a decently performing suitcase sized machine.] I also remember the wonderfulness of having to change ROMs and regenerate the CP/M kernel when making a hardware change. They had you on that one. Much like Apple and their ROMs -- Apple was able to successfully keep any clones out of existance because they had the copyright on the basic graphic routines in the ROMS, upon which the operating system was built [i.e. the ROMs were indespensible to doing what an Apple did, and nobody successfully developed a workaround]. IBM was trying to do something similar, but Phoenix reverse engineered (first successful (in court) reverse engineering ever?) the motherboard BIOS chip. That act began a chain of events that resulted in PCs as we know them. Have any of you wondered about the "reverse engineering" clause in so much of Windon't's software? I'm sure others here on newbie could tell more of this and other things that led to the Free Software Foundation and eventually to Linux as we know it. -Gary- In a message dated 9/15/2000 8:50:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just love overclocking. :) im glad some of u do too. and for those of u that dont. oh well On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Your not down with www.hardocp.com then eh? :) Overclocking is the best thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was awsome, tests showed it. :p markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic irony not a true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's. Like you I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150 performance I will buy pc-150 DIMMs. If I need a gig processor I'll buy one. Abe = Original Message From John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abe, The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS noticable, but not a big change
[newbie] Diamond Monster Sound MX-80
Anybody had any success w/ getting this to work in 7.1? TIA dwyatt
Re: [newbie] OT video cards gaming OT
I haven't played UT in several weeks (been playing ole' Starcraft again), but before I quit I was in the top 100 CTF players worldwide according to ngWorldStats. I just bring that out to show that I'm not just some nobody who doesn't know what I'm talking about. I understand your want for beauty. I want it too. The point is, you don't have to trade speed for beauty. This thread was originally brought up about overclocking your processor. That would get you the exact same beauty w/ faster performance and no tradeoffs except your processor would last 6 or 7 years vs. 12 or 14, and what good is a 6 or 7 year-old processor anyways? What Intel processor was in use 7 years ago? I think it was either the 286 or 386SX. Those would do you nearly nothing today. Don't listen to people who complain about stability problems with overclocking. If you have stability problems, don't overclock as much. True, some processor/mobo combos won't overclock at all without stability problems, but, in my experience that is rare. As far as FSAA in FPS games go, the difference is not that astounding. Have you seen a Geforce 2 running on a monitor right next to a monitor driven with a V5 with FSAA enabled? I have, my local CompUSA store has a display set up with both cards on 19 inch viewsonic monitors running UT. You can tell something is different about the V5, but you don't look at it and say "WOW, that looks so much better". If you disable FSAA you DO notice how much more smooth the game looks. All of this is IMHO, though. You have what you like, I have what I like. I think you will find yourself in the minority, though if you were to survey gamers as to whether they prefer the looks of FSAA or the speed without it. Regards, dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:35 PM Subject: [newbie] OT video cards gaming OT If it ever gets so that I need more fps to wipe the floor with the people I'm playing with I'll go for the pure speed thing. As it is I can drop into any server on the net in quake3, UT, Half-Life and CS and be in the top 3 every time and whats happeneing on my monitor is beautiful. All the time. You should see cobble with 4xFSAA enabled. The depth of texture is incredible. I just got done playing UT with my brother, a friend of ours and a few stragglers from the net. 6 maps, average of 350 frags per hour between them. On morbius I got 490 frags per hour. We were playing fatboy instagib mutators. My computer was the server too. FPS is not as big an issue as people want it to be in my opinion ;-) I shoot for the balance between beauty, playability and fun. Abe = Original Message From "dwyatt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I agree with nearly everything good ole' Tom says in that article. In general though, I find Tom to be arrogant and stubborn. He usually will not back down from an issue even if he is proven wrong. You will also notice that Tom states that faster processor speeds REALLY help Unreal Tournament. (come on, overclock that processor, I just KNOW you want too :) ) From my quick scan of the article (to refresh my memory, I read it when it came out), he does nothing to refute the point I made, that is, you can not have too many fps. You were saying you were happy with ~60 fps. If you are just a casual gamer, I can understand that. You don't sound like a casual gamer (from the statement you made about all the hours you spend playing and hosting lan parties). Here's the math: 360 degree turn in 100 ms or .1 seconds 60 fps In .1 seconds at 60 fps, 6 frames are processed to the frame buffer and to the screen. This gives you a total of 6 frames to represent 360 degrees of a turn. Thus, your view is only updated every 60 degrees as you turn around (360/6). Not good. Another point Tom didn't mention: He said that you will see very little difference in several low resolution benchmarks with the same game and card, because the system is unable to feed the 3d card vertices fast enough. Well, you will also see the same thing as you increase the resolution, for a different reason. In fact, it is the exact opposite reason. You start bumping against the card's fill rate ceiling. The card becomes unable to keep up with all the data being sent to it by the system. FSAA on a first-person shooter? Why? Racing or flight sim's I get, but a FPS? Well, like you said, you have your own tastes. Like they say, too each his own. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] I just bought a voodoo5 about three weeks ago. It is a great card. I'll layout my thinking for you so you can see what I took into account. 1. My past experi
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
uh...who talked 'shit' about you? (You dirty bastard...overclock that processor!) :) dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] its funny. The hardcore anti-overclocking people hate me because I don't care if people do it and defend the fact that they can do whatever they want with thie hardware. Meanwhile, the rabid overclockers talk shit about me because I don't feel the need to overclock. Why do I feel like I'm at a high school kegger and not interested in drinking? Abe = Original Message From "markOpoleO" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Your not down with www.hardocp.com then eh? :) Overclocking is the best thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was awsome, tests showed it. :p markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic irony not a true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's. Like you I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150 performance I will buy pc-150 DIMMs. If I need a gig processor I'll buy one. Abe = Original Message From John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abe, The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS noticable, but not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is overclocked but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go through before you find the culprit: how much trouble will it cause you and is it worth it. I include a copy of a posting I sent to newbie in May. The relevant sentence is : " These things [ referring to 15% overclocking ] were OK and had worked well for a year and a half." I've done it, and my answer is that I doubt I will overclock again. As always, remember that your mileage will vary. -Gary- Subj: [newbie] beware old hardware optimizations Date: 5/27/2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had taken hardware optimizations for granted; this is a reminder that things can change over time. Having read here a while back that Linux is very demanding of hardware set me thinking. For the last six months I've had problems with Windows Scandisk completing. I suspected my hard drive was heading toward failure [before I was disabled I was a computer technician, and this IS one of the first signs of hard drive failure a user will see], and before I installed Linux Mandrake 7 I installed a new HDD. The Windows Scandisk problem remained. In trying to solve Linux WordPerfect vs. StarOffice installs corrupting X windows, and sound configuration failures it occured to me to remove my 15% overclocking and accelerated DIMM timing from my hardware. These things were OK and had worked well for a year and a half. Removing the overclocking solved the Scandisk problem. The DIMM timing changed nothing and was reset. Too bad this didn't fix my Linux problems. -Gary- In a message dated 9/13/2000 11:42:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now? And how unstable will it be? Bottom line is, I don't need to over clock it to feel like I got my moneys worth. If it ain't broke it works just fins and should be left alone. Gary if you've been round the industry long enough you'll remember the good old Z-80. We used to run Z-80 based S-100 boards in multi-user MPM systems. The boards (manufacturer forgotten) supplied 1Mhz Z-80's and clocks on the boards which we replaced. We clocked all of the cards on the buss to 10Mhz and got fantastic performance And it worked well on these beasts. We had several very happy customers how really loved the 5 times thru-put increase. Multiple fans the whole 9 yards to keep them cool. However there was a downside. Really pungant smells throughout the offices, smoke detectors going off for no apparent reason, inexplicable loss of data, and what was really strange was the lovely green laquer on the boards went a really dark brown !!! Now that's overclocking!!! I should add that none of these systems lasted more than 6 months !! I couldn't agree more with your suggestion that overclocking may be detrimental to the performace of the system.. I wonder how I get my tongue out of mt cheek now.. any suggestions? Cheers PS I guess I
Re: [newbie] hard to threads....
Hmm, I don't have any option to "read the thread" under the context menu in Outlook. The problem with sorting by subject (btw, you just click on the column header "Subject" to sort ascending or descending) is that it doesn't collapse the messages into just one expandable header, like, for example, if this was a newsgroup. Thx for the response. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Carolina Kohler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] hard to threads In windows, if you use Outlook then you select the message (any of the thread, the first one for example), right click, choose read the thread. And that's it. There are also other options you can change so that the messages get sorted by thread as they come in, but I don't remember how it is, have a look in tools, options or the like. Cheers, Carol^ El jue, 14 sep 2000, escribiste: I hate mailing lists that are so active, it is real hard to follow all the threads. Does anybody have any suggestions for a program or some method to sort threads into some sort of hierarchical list? Preferably for windoze, cause I'm still screwing around with my linux install. TIA dwyatt Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
I used the generic term "message" and not "news" or "mailing list", because both news groups and mailing lists are subject to the same kind of flaming. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Kathleen Dickason" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Spanish co. dwyatt wrote: LOL! A message group on the Internet without flaming? Such a thing does not exist my friend. :) Just for the record, we're on a mailing list, not a Usenet group...and I would hope such a thing would exist. And in all actuality I didn't read a single intentional flame in the whole thread. The first guy just misunderstood (understandable, since the post wasn't in the lists' native tounge) the post for spam. Since then there has been not a single flame. There's been a lot of arguing, though. I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen
[newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the Viper II to work in 7.1? dwyatt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información what the heck buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements!
Re: [newbie] kudzu - A Clarification
Uh, are you being funny, or am I just misunderstanding you? A 386sx16 is not "more recent" then a P-133. - Original Message - From: "John Rye" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:07 PM Subject: [newbie] kudzu - A Clarification I am running thru my list of startup services disabling all those I don't routinely need to load. I note that at each reboot (I doing lots at present) kudzu runs and does a check for new hardware. Do I really need to run this as the hardware doesn't change and is not likely to change in the near future? And out of that comes another question... If when I finally get to replace this aging Pentium 133 mobo with some more recent (say 386sx16 or similar) - is is just a matter of swapping the existing hardware and rebooting OR??? Any advise appreciated Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Distributed.net question..
x86/ELF. I don't know what the heck elf means, but, that is the only version that will work on that slow computer of yours. (x86=Intel architecture processors) dwyatt - Original Message - From: "markOpoleO" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: [newbie] Distributed.net question.. I was wondering what program do I download for Distributed.net...there are lots of Linux versions on there webpage and was not sure which one works for Mandrake on a Piii800mhz computer. btw, what are other Distributed computing program that work for Linux nowadays? I know of Parbon will be soon, any others..? markOpoleO
