RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Bassam Khalil]

Thanks.

 

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[mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bobcat...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:36 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

 

If you only have a little rust, I would opt for cleaning the tank as best
you can  and then keeping the tank as full as you can because it will not
rust if it not exposed to air. This has worked for me for several years on a
1971 tank. Also add some inline fuel filters. Wynn

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Bassam Khalil 
wrote:

Thanks again for the helpful advise...


B-man

-Original Message-
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz

Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:14 AM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

I used POR15 on mine. There are others that people have used but I
can't remember the names. A search of the archives would probably pull
it up. Some swear by them, others think it will fall off the tank and
gum up the line. There are also products that claim to "eat the rust".
If you only have a little you might go that way.

On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
> It does have some rust but not much. What is the coating you speak of?
>
> Thanks
>
> B-man
>
> -Original Message-
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:07 AM
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>
> On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz  wrote:
>> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
>> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
>> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
>> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
>> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
>> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
>> the coating sticks.
>>
>> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
>>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the
gas
>>> tank and if so what should I clean
>>> it with.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> B-Man
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>>>
>>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
>>>
>>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
>>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
>>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
>>> that holds the petcock to the tank.
>>>
>>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
>>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
>>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
>>>
>>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
>>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
>>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
>>> big nut.
>>>
>>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
>>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
>>> owner did to mine (!)
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[bobcat732]

If you only have a little rust, I would opt for cleaning the tank as best
you can  and then keeping the tank as full as you can because it will not
rust if it not exposed to air. This has worked for me for several years on a
1971 tank. Also add some inline fuel filters. Wynn

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Bassam Khalil wrote:

> Thanks again for the helpful advise...
>
> B-man
>
> -Original Message-
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz
>  Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>
> I used POR15 on mine. There are others that people have used but I
> can't remember the names. A search of the archives would probably pull
> it up. Some swear by them, others think it will fall off the tank and
> gum up the line. There are also products that claim to "eat the rust".
> If you only have a little you might go that way.
>
> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
> > It does have some rust but not much. What is the coating you speak of?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > B-man
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:07 AM
> > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
> >
> > On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz  wrote:
> >> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
> >> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
> >> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
> >> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
> >> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
> >> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
> >> the coating sticks.
> >>
> >> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
> >>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the
> gas
> >>> tank and if so what should I clean
> >>> it with.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> B-Man
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
> >>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
> >>>
> >>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
> >>>
> >>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
> >>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
> >>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
> >>> that holds the petcock to the tank.
> >>>
> >>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
> >>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
> >>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
> >>>
> >>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
> >>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
> >>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
> >>> big nut.
> >>>
> >>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
> >>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
> >>> owner did to mine (!)
> >>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Alcohol Schmakohol

[paul annen]

yea... he claims to be a marine genset mechanic, but i doubt that he was any
good because of this kind of stuff... and i only use the good amsoil in the
aprilla... if i 50cc can push me up to 55mph at 300lbs it deserves only the
best BTW has anybody heard of or seen the old motocompo??? i just saw
them online and now i want one, i think i can fit a pair of them in my
saddle bags now, lol...

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:56 PM, stanley/ Randolph wrote:

> I forgot that you said that he runs MM Oil instead of 2-stroke oil:  What
> ratio does he use?  MM really isn't a good oil to use in that application,
> but to each his own, I guess.
> There are four types of Amsoil for 2-strokes, and some racing types swear
> by it.  Big boats, snowmobile racers, go-carts, water skis, and the list
> goes on.
> I use the formula for lawn equipment in my Shindaiwa line trimmer at 100:1
> ratio; I have used it commercially for six years, and it was about 10 years
> old when I bought it from a pawn shop.  It still runs strong, although it's
> time for a new head.
> Down here in La. we have open drainage along the roads, so my trimmer
> really gets a lot of use.  One property I do takes about 45 minutes just in
> the ditches, and then another 45 around the buildings and fences.
> I  usually lengthen the line for the ditches from about 18 " to about 25",
> because, although it strains the motor some, it also tempers the speed and I
> get a more even cut and take less time as well.
> As for it being in the gas, it is more corrosive in the tanks, esp. if
> there's a lot of water from humidity and in the case of marine use.
> This is something to remain aware of for your motorcycle, because of the
> exposure to corrosion both at fill up and when riding in the rain, when
> water can enter the fuel.
> Stanley
>
>
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> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, June 17, 2010 9:53:16 PM
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Alcohol Schmakohol
>
> DRAGSTERS Run It!It's a Whole different Class
>
>
> Jun 17, 2010 09:18:55 PM, nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com wrote:
>
> I dont see what the issue is with ethanol if you burn it through your
> system before it has a chance to separate and gum up... Marine people
> complain about ethanol more then anyone ive ever known. Case in point a
> "friend" of mine pays more money to buy ethonal free gas for his 2 stroke
> outboard, then puts rubbing alochol (isopropoal alochol) and maervel mystery
> oil into the mix (no, no 2 stroke oil at all) He claims that it boosts
> the octaine and removes water, but i see it as a waste of money... Anyway
> had to get that off my chest
> -Original Message-
> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:32:13 pm
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> From: "Graham Rogers"
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner
>
> Hey GG, send some of that ethanol free stuff our way and a 55 gal
> drum of your Sta-bil,
> Graham '02 NH750
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:13 PM, eugene george wrote:
>
> > I recently purchased a 1999 750 NH that was in pristine condition
> > (5800 miles-always garage-kept). It has been a delight to own and
> > ride.
> > I've enjoyed following the posts to this group and learn something
> > new every day. I've followed with great interest the posts on the
> > use of Seafoam. I have used the marine version of Sta-bil as a
> > fuel suplement, which has 4 times the additive as regular Sta-bil.
> > I also have found a gas station in Sarasota, Fl where I live that
> > sells 90 octane without ethanol. The combination of the 2 have
> > left me with flawless performance.
> > Compliments to all who share their vast knowledge of the venerable NH.
> >
> > GG
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork springs and oil

[Graham Rogers]

It may be covered by  the axle Javier

On Jun 18, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:


Hi all,
this weekend I am installing the progressive fork springs I  bought  
few days ago. I thought about changing the fork seals, but I have  
decided they are fine and that I am not doing that for now.  
However, I do want to take out the old springs, drain the old oil  
inside, do some cleaning, and then insert the new springs with new  
oil. According to the manual at the bottom of each fork leg there  
is a small nut to drain the oil. The problem is that my '96 750 do  
not have them! the forks show a small cylindrical shaped  
protuberance where they are supposed to be, but there is not hole,  
not nut... the fork is all just one solid piece. The weird thing is  
that this does not look to be a modification at all. I mean, it  
looks like the fork was made like that. Does anyone else have the  
same thing? how am I supposed to drain the oil?


Thanks
Javier.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Alcohol Schmakohol

[stanley/ Randolph]

I forgot that you said that he runs MM Oil instead of 2-stroke oil:  What ratio 
does he use?  MM really isn't a good oil to use in that application, but to 
each his own, I guess.
There are four types of Amsoil for 2-strokes, and some racing types swear by 
it.  Big boats, snowmobile racers, go-carts, water skis, and the list goes on.  
I use the formula for lawn equipment in my Shindaiwa line trimmer at 100:1 
ratio; I have used it commercially for six years, and it was about 10 years old 
when I bought it from a pawn shop.  It still runs strong, although it's time 
for a new head.
Down here in La. we have open drainage along the roads, so my trimmer really 
gets a lot of use.  One property I do takes about 45 minutes just in the 
ditches, and then another 45 around the buildings and fences.
I  usually lengthen the line for the ditches from about 18 " to about 25", 
because, although it strains the motor some, it also tempers the speed and I 
get a more even cut and take less time as well.
As for it being in the gas, it is more corrosive in the tanks, esp. if there's 
a lot of water from humidity and in the case of marine use.  
This is something to remain aware of for your motorcycle, because of the 
exposure to corrosion both at fill up and when riding in the rain, when water 
can enter the fuel.
Stanley





From: "pa_s...@verizon.net" 
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 9:53:16 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Alcohol Schmakohol

DRAGSTERS Run It!    It's a Whole different Class


Jun 17, 2010 09:18:55 PM, nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com wrote:

I dont see what the issue is with ethanol if you burn it through your system 
before it has a chance to separate and gum up... Marine people complain about 
ethanol more then anyone ive ever known. Case in point a "friend" of mine 
pays more money to buy ethonal free gas for his 2 stroke outboard, then puts 
rubbing alochol (isopropoal alochol) and maervel mystery oil into the mix (no, 
no 2 stroke oil at all) He claims that it boosts the octaine and removes 
water, but i see it as a waste of money... Anyway had to get that off my chest 
>-Original Message-
>Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:32:13 pm
>To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>From: "Graham Rogers" 
>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner
>
>Hey GG, send some of that ethanol free stuff our way and a 55 gal 
>drum of your Sta-bil,
>Graham '02 NH750
>
>On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:13 PM, eugene george wrote:
>
>> I recently purchased a 1999 750 NH that was in pristine condition 
>> (5800 miles-always garage-kept). It has been a delight to own and 
>> ride.
>> I've enjoyed following the posts to this group and learn something 
>> new every day. I've followed with great interest the posts on the 
>> use of Seafoam. I have used the marine version of Sta-bil as a 
>> fuel suplement, which has 4 times the additive as regular Sta-bil. 
>> I also have found a gas station in Sarasota, Fl where I live that 
>> sells 90 octane without ethanol. The combination of the 2 have 
>> left me with flawless performance.
>> Compliments to all who share their vast knowledge of the venerable NH.
>>
>> GG
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: installing a kick starter

[Joey Kelley]

I'm good - but thanks!
  I do feel awful for all those guys who kicked Indians and
Knucklehead Harleys for years - I knew of one who had a very bad knee
as a result!
   -Joey

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Stumpi  wrote:
> Joey, I've got a parts bike '79 400 automatic in my back yard that
> came with my 450 and it does indeed have a kick starter.  I had always
> wondered if it was possible to swap them over.  I remember taking a
> look a few months ago and deciding the cases were different but I'm
> not sure.  I'll look again if you have any interest.  I'm putting this
> thing up as a pick a part on Craigslist here shortly.  Missing too
> many parts and the engine is seized or I'd consider trying to get it
> running again.
>
> Pick here: 
> http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/Stumpifier/400kickstart.jpg
>
> Dustin I'm 99% sure this won't fit your bike or I'd have offered it in
> my first post.  Even if there is a kick start delete port the motor is
> different and likely used different gears if not an completely
> different mechanism if it ever came with a kick starter.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: installing a kick starter

[Stumpi]

Joey, I've got a parts bike '79 400 automatic in my back yard that
came with my 450 and it does indeed have a kick starter.  I had always
wondered if it was possible to swap them over.  I remember taking a
look a few months ago and deciding the cases were different but I'm
not sure.  I'll look again if you have any interest.  I'm putting this
thing up as a pick a part on Craigslist here shortly.  Missing too
many parts and the engine is seized or I'd consider trying to get it
running again.

Pick here: http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/Stumpifier/400kickstart.jpg

Dustin I'm 99% sure this won't fit your bike or I'd have offered it in
my first post.  Even if there is a kick start delete port the motor is
different and likely used different gears if not an completely
different mechanism if it ever came with a kick starter.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Fork springs and oil

[Javier Garcia]

Hi all,
this weekend I am installing the progressive fork springs I  bought few days
ago. I thought about changing the fork seals, but I have decided they are
fine and that I am not doing that for now. However, I do want to take out
the old springs, drain the old oil inside, do some cleaning, and then insert
the new springs with new oil. According to the manual at the bottom of each
fork leg there is a small nut to drain the oil. The problem is that my '96
750 do not have them! the forks show a small cylindrical shaped protuberance
where they are supposed to be, but there is not hole, not nut... the fork is
all just one solid piece. The weird thing is that this does not look to be a
modification at all. I mean, it looks like the fork was made like that. Does
anyone else have the same thing? how am I supposed to drain the oil?

Thanks
Javier.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My NightHawk

[Stumpi]

Very nice, that is almost exactly what I just did with mine.  I picked
up my '82 450 in December and worked on it til Feburary when it was
fixed and the roads were clear enough for test rides.  I've now got
about 3000 miles on it with many many modifications and tweeks and
plans for much more.  Anyone ever restuff the seat on these? That's
coming soon for mine.  Here's a picture:

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/Stumpifier/450profile1.jpg

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Check out this 550 on CL -

[Graham Rogers]

Sean, 5 years ago, we were in and out of Hawaii for 20 something  
years.  We lived on Guam and the Marianas. In training for running  
races on  Guam, I would run around the airport in Honolulu, shower   
and take a nap in one of those little cubicles  (pre 9/11). That's  
where I had my first Nighthawk, a 450 that someone left in my  
driveway because it died as soon as it hit 4 -5k rpms.  I wrung the  
oil out of the air filter and it was fine.
Next time I go to New Zealand, I'll be staying overnight in Hawaii,   
Graham



On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:50 PM, sfox618 wrote:


http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/1797713250.html

One of the things about living in Hawaii is that people ship their
bikes here and don't take them with them.  The above 550 is a perfect
example - he shipped his bike here a year ago and now doesn't have the
cash to take it with him.  I also have two friends leaving at the end
of the summer who are going to leave their bikes with me if they can't
sell - a late 80's Magna 750 and 2004 v-star.  If I add this bike I'll
be up to 4.  There''s also a 70's Honda Twinstar 200 that I'm looking
at for my 15 year old -  My goal is to catch Graham.

Sean

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Nighthawk S

[Graham Rogers]

I'm in PA, rats! too far away again!

On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Angela Kennedy wrote:

Graham, Where are you again? anywhere near Michigan? I own a blue  
93 750NH I just started thinking about selling, interested? I'm  
just not riding it enough.  I've never put it out there that I  
wanted to sell. I figured, I'd start here first.


On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Graham Rogers   
wrote:

Rats, too far away again!  Graham

On Jun 18, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Kim Paddock wrote:

Hey all! There is a 1984 700 S in blue posted on the Boise, Idaho  
Craigslist for $1,800.00. It's a beauty! Take a lookI'd buy it  
if I weren't so broke.



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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Temporary Lighting repair

[Joey Kelley]

Everything else is ok - your comment about the two lights makes me
even more curious, the bike appears to have been re-wired since it
left the factory - however - I have never bothered to dig any deeper
than the obvious re-routing of wires to see why or what was done. The
fuses were checked at one point - that might have been 10 years ago
though so I might have missed something. I should take my own advice
and just replace them all on principal.
I'll do that shortly and let everyone know.
Thanks Gene!
   -Joey

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Gene Henry  wrote:
> The schematic at
> http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1982-honda-motorcycle-cb450sc/o/m14678 shows
> two bulbs in each of the two instrument clusters so I think it unlikely they
> have all burned out.  More likely a wiring/fuse problem.  I have a 84
> CB650SC with an entirely different single instrument cluster so I can't help
> much.
>
> Do all the other circuits and light work OK?
>
> Gene
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Joey Kelley
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:05 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Temporary Lighting repair
> Hello All,
>     Most of the time I ride during the day - so this problem is
> not an issue. However, I'm looking at doing some longer day trips in
> the next few weeks and that will probably entail some riding after
> dark. Perhaps multiple hours worth.
>     My gauge lights don't work. I know that it is probably a
> simple bulb replacement - but - frankly - I don't want to tear into
> the bike and attempt to fix them with everything else working fine.
> Perhaps this winter I'll get to it.
>     So - how do I temporarily light up my gauges at night?? Any
> suggestion (within reason!) is welcome!
>     Thanks!
>  -Joey
> 82 CB450 SC
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Temporary Lighting repair

[Gene Henry]

The schematic at 
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1982-honda-motorcycle-cb450sc/o/m14678
 shows two bulbs in each of the two instrument clusters so I think it unlikely 
they have all burned out.  More likely a wiring/fuse problem.  I have a 84 
CB650SC with an entirely different single instrument cluster so I can't help 
much.

Do all the other circuits and light work OK?

Gene
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  From: Joey Kelley 
  To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:05 PM
  Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Temporary Lighting repair


  Hello All,
  Most of the time I ride during the day - so this problem is
  not an issue. However, I'm looking at doing some longer day trips in
  the next few weeks and that will probably entail some riding after
  dark. Perhaps multiple hours worth.
  My gauge lights don't work. I know that it is probably a
  simple bulb replacement - but - frankly - I don't want to tear into
  the bike and attempt to fix them with everything else working fine.
  Perhaps this winter I'll get to it.
  So - how do I temporarily light up my gauges at night?? Any
  suggestion (within reason!) is welcome!
  Thanks!
   -Joey
  82 CB450 SC

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Check out this 550 on CL -

[Joey Kelley]

Sean,
 Are you starting a 'Fly and Ride' service?
  :-)
  -Joey

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM, sfox618  wrote:
> http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/1797713250.html
>
> One of the things about living in Hawaii is that people ship their
> bikes here and don't take them with them.  The above 550 is a perfect
> example - he shipped his bike here a year ago and now doesn't have the
> cash to take it with him.  I also have two friends leaving at the end
> of the summer who are going to leave their bikes with me if they can't
> sell - a late 80's Magna 750 and 2004 v-star.  If I add this bike I'll
> be up to 4.  There''s also a 70's Honda Twinstar 200 that I'm looking
> at for my 15 year old -  My goal is to catch Graham.
>
> Sean
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Temporary Lighting repair

[Joey Kelley]

Hello All,
Most of the time I ride during the day - so this problem is
not an issue. However, I'm looking at doing some longer day trips in
the next few weeks and that will probably entail some riding after
dark. Perhaps multiple hours worth.
My gauge lights don't work. I know that it is probably a
simple bulb replacement - but - frankly - I don't want to tear into
the bike and attempt to fix them with everything else working fine.
Perhaps this winter I'll get to it.
So - how do I temporarily light up my gauges at night?? Any
suggestion (within reason!) is welcome!
Thanks!
 -Joey
82 CB450 SC

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Check out this 550 on CL -

[sfox618]

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/1797713250.html

One of the things about living in Hawaii is that people ship their
bikes here and don't take them with them.  The above 550 is a perfect
example - he shipped his bike here a year ago and now doesn't have the
cash to take it with him.  I also have two friends leaving at the end
of the summer who are going to leave their bikes with me if they can't
sell - a late 80's Magna 750 and 2004 v-star.  If I add this bike I'll
be up to 4.  There''s also a 70's Honda Twinstar 200 that I'm looking
at for my 15 year old -  My goal is to catch Graham.

Sean

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Nighthawk S

[Angela Kennedy]

Graham, Where are you again? anywhere near Michigan? I own a blue 93 750NH I
just started thinking about selling, interested? I'm just not riding it
enough.  I've never put it out there that I wanted to sell. I figured, I'd
start here first.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Graham Rogers  wrote:

> Rats, too far away again!  Graham
>
>  On Jun 18, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Kim Paddock wrote:
>
>  Hey all! There is a 1984 700 S in blue posted on the Boise, Idaho
> Craigslist for $1,800.00. It's a beauty! Take a lookI'd buy it if I
> weren't so broke.
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Bassam Khalil]

Thanks again for the helpful advise...

B-man

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[mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:14 AM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

I used POR15 on mine. There are others that people have used but I
can't remember the names. A search of the archives would probably pull
it up. Some swear by them, others think it will fall off the tank and
gum up the line. There are also products that claim to "eat the rust".
If you only have a little you might go that way.

On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
> It does have some rust but not much. What is the coating you speak of?
>
> Thanks
>
> B-man
>
> -Original Message-
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:07 AM
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>
> On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz  wrote:
>> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
>> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
>> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
>> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
>> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
>> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
>> the coating sticks.
>>
>> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
>>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the
gas
>>> tank and if so what should I clean
>>> it with.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> B-Man
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>>>
>>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
>>>
>>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
>>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
>>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
>>> that holds the petcock to the tank.
>>>
>>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
>>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
>>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
>>>
>>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
>>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
>>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
>>> big nut.
>>>
>>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
>>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
>>> owner did to mine (!)
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Kyle Munz]

I used POR15 on mine. There are others that people have used but I
can't remember the names. A search of the archives would probably pull
it up. Some swear by them, others think it will fall off the tank and
gum up the line. There are also products that claim to "eat the rust".
If you only have a little you might go that way.

On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
> It does have some rust but not much. What is the coating you speak of?
>
> Thanks
>
> B-man
>
> -Original Message-
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:07 AM
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>
> On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz  wrote:
>> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
>> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
>> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
>> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
>> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
>> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
>> the coating sticks.
>>
>> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
>>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the gas
>>> tank and if so what should I clean
>>> it with.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> B-Man
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>>>
>>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
>>>
>>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
>>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
>>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
>>> that holds the petcock to the tank.
>>>
>>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
>>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
>>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
>>>
>>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
>>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
>>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
>>> big nut.
>>>
>>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
>>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
>>> owner did to mine (!)
>>>
>>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Bassam Khalil]

It does have some rust but not much. What is the coating you speak of?

Thanks

B-man

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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz  wrote:
> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
> the coating sticks.
>
> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the gas
>> tank and if so what should I clean
>> it with.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> B-Man
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>>
>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
>>
>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
>> that holds the petcock to the tank.
>>
>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
>>
>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
>> big nut.
>>
>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
>> owner did to mine (!)
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Kyle Munz]

On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz  wrote:
> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
> the coating sticks.
>
> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the gas
>> tank and if so what should I clean
>> it with.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> B-Man
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>>
>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
>>
>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
>> that holds the petcock to the tank.
>>
>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
>>
>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
>> big nut.
>>
>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
>> owner did to mine (!)
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Kyle Munz]

I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it
isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over gas
doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air evaporated
all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the
inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is
rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make sure
the coating sticks.

On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil  wrote:
> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the gas
> tank and if so what should I clean
> it with.
>
> Thanks
>
> B-Man
>
> -Original Message-
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650
>
> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:
>
> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
> that holds the petcock to the tank.
>
> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).
>
> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
> big nut.
>
> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
> owner did to mine (!)
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: installing a kick starter

[Joey Kelley]

My 450 has a delete plug where you can see that the same block was
used for a kicker - I believe that the 350 and 400 Honda Hawks had
kick (I know I saw an automatic transmission one once that had a kick
- I'd guess it was because you couldn't jump / roll start it??) But
I've never heard of a Nighthawk that had one.
   -Joey

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Stumpi  wrote:
> More than likely more trouble than you're willing to go through to get
> it done.  I've heard of some machines still having the right holes for
> a kick start mechanism, they only thing that needs doing is to get a
> new side cover and install the guts for one.  However the 550 is just
> a smaller version of the 650 which itself was a new engine in the 80s
> and never came with a kick start as far as I can find.  Meaning
> outside of some extensive modifications it'll be rather hard to put a
> kick start on this bike.  I could be wrong and I'm sure someone will
> chime in if I am but I think I'd just be easier and cheaper to get a
> new battery and fix your starter.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner

[stanley/ Randolph]

It would seem that isopropyl alcohol would not do any more removing of water 
than ethanol would.  They are both able to bond with either water or gas, and 
hence their ability to "remove" water from gasoline.  
I can not remember what country it is in S.A., but one uses alcohol as a fuel 
anyway, corrosive as it can be.
I concur that  paying more for alcohol free fuel and then adding it back, even 
if it is isopropyl, is throwing away money.  
If there is a boost in power, it is because the water that the alcohol soaked 
up is burning in the fuel.  
Alcohol produces less power than gasoline, but the added water (15%,  I 
believe) enhances the power of the alcohol when it turns to steam in the 
burning of the alcohol.  This makes it somewhat the equivalent of gasoline.
If one uses water injection, with a high compression engine (like more than 
12.5:1), it will produce much more power with half the fuel.  Like this guy (a 
mechanic), for example, replaced the stock pistons in a Ford Focus to up the 
compression to 12.7:1 and added water injection.  Stock compression was, I 
think, like 8.7.
He still used 87 octane, and went from stock 25 mpg to 50 mpg with increased 
performance as well.
My device only boosts power minimally, but makes the fuel charge burn clean and 
faster, which ups the mileage, some 40% to - I've personally achieved 62% in an 
old Dodge Dynasty, which means about 27.8 mpg on the road, where stock was 
about 17.  It was about 13 in town, and that went up to 20 to 21.
In a Subaru Legacy, I achieved an increase from 27 to around 41 or 42, which is 
around 66%  - and that's with a leaky intake valve and going between 80 and 100 
mph.  It was an intake, because as the velocity of the air going in increased, 
the stumbling of the engine misfiring decreased; also, due to the  charge 
burning more quickly, the power was generated sooner and therefore headed out 
the exhaust before the intake.  Before the valve started leaking, I was getting 
around 30 - 31 mpg.
The benefits arent limited to increased mileage.   I also found that, after 
10,000 miles of driving in the Dynasty, the oil no longer turned black and the 
power of the engine was restored to nearly stock, so far as I can tell (it 
would invariably spin the tires on wet pavement if I didn't use just the barest 
pressure on the pedal).
The other advantage - and this would really benefit Nighthawks, being as 
they're air cooled - is because the charge burns faster, produces its power 
sooner, the heat doesn't get dissipated partially in the exhaust valves.  In 
other words, in a normal burn without brown gas (hydrogen and oxygen from the 
water), the burn would be going on as the charge, still burning, heads out the 
exhaust, heating up the valve.
I know, because way back when, riding my Honda 50 step thru at night, I looked 
down and saw a red glow on the pavement.  I leaned over more and saw that it 
was coming from the cherry red exhaust pipe.
Now, if the exhaust pipe was that red, think of what torture the valve was 
taking at 9,500 rpm.
In a critical situation where the engine can't get rid of the heat, it would 
build up and cause a burned exhaust valve.  Remember that, in the few 
milliseconds the exhaust valve remains closed, it has to transfer enough heat 
to the seat and the head to keep from burning up.  Hence, the finned retainer 
around the exhaust pipe where it connects to the port.
It is a marvel of alloy technology that prevented the exhaust valve in that 
small engine not to burn up, while producing that much power: five horsepower 
out of a 50cc engine (actually, 49cc).
 
Stanley





From: Kyle Munz 
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 7:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner

I understand trying to find ethanol free gas, I wish I could, but then adding 
your own alcohol back into the mix to me is a waste of time.

-Kyle 



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:18 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com  
wrote:

I dont see what the issue is with ethanol if you burn it through your system 
before it has a chance to separate and gum up... Marine people complain about 
ethanol more then anyone ive ever known. Case in point a "friend" of mine 
pays more money to buy ethonal free gas for his 2 stroke outboard, then puts 
rubbing alochol (isopropoal alochol) and maervel mystery oil into the mix (no, 
no 2 stroke oil at all) He claims that it boosts the octaine and removes 
water, but i see it as a waste of money... Anyway had to get that off my chest
>
>-Original Message-
>Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:32:13 pm
>To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>From: "Graham Rogers" 
>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner
>
>Hey GG, send some of that ethanol free stuff our way and a 55 gal
>drum of your Sta-bil,
>Graham '02 NH750
>
>On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:13 PM, eugene george wrote:
>
>> I recently purchased a 1999 750 NH that was in pristine condition
>>

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Corbin (or other brand) seat wanted

[Graham Rogers]

Good idea!

On Jun 18, 2010, at 9:52 AM, surfswab wrote:


Javier

Another shopping option for this kind of work:  Seat mod vendors often
travel to motorcycle shows and rallies.  In fact, I think Corbin reps
attend the larger events.

They can and do modify seats on the spot, same day and at reasonable
cost, considering how complicated the mod is.  Might be worth checking
to see if any of those events are happening near you.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Nighthawk S

[Graham Rogers]

Rats, too far away again!  Graham

On Jun 18, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Kim Paddock wrote:

Hey all! There is a 1984 700 S in blue posted on the Boise, Idaho  
Craigslist for $1,800.00. It's a beauty! Take a lookI'd buy it  
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

[Bassam Khalil]

Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean the gas
tank and if so what should I clean
it with.

Thanks

B-Man

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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650

Here's a tip that may save you some grief later:

There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over the
brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock.  It's a press
fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut
that holds the petcock to the tank.

Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank
fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your
thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe).

Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you when
you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and
forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the
big nut.

If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you risk
tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous
owner did to mine (!)


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: installing a kick starter

[Stumpi]

More than likely more trouble than you're willing to go through to get
it done.  I've heard of some machines still having the right holes for
a kick start mechanism, they only thing that needs doing is to get a
new side cover and install the guts for one.  However the 550 is just
a smaller version of the 650 which itself was a new engine in the 80s
and never came with a kick start as far as I can find.  Meaning
outside of some extensive modifications it'll be rather hard to put a
kick start on this bike.  I could be wrong and I'm sure someone will
chime in if I am but I think I'd just be easier and cheaper to get a
new battery and fix your starter.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Corbin (or other brand) seat wanted

[Javier Garcia]

That is a good idea. I will keep my eyes open.
Javier.



On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:52 AM, surfswab  wrote:

> Javier
>
> Another shopping option for this kind of work:  Seat mod vendors often
> travel to motorcycle shows and rallies.  In fact, I think Corbin reps
> attend the larger events.
>
> They can and do modify seats on the spot, same day and at reasonable
> cost, considering how complicated the mod is.  Might be worth checking
> to see if any of those events are happening near you.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Corbin (or other brand) seat wanted

[surfswab]

Javier

Another shopping option for this kind of work:  Seat mod vendors often
travel to motorcycle shows and rallies.  In fact, I think Corbin reps
attend the larger events.

They can and do modify seats on the spot, same day and at reasonable
cost, considering how complicated the mod is.  Might be worth checking
to see if any of those events are happening near you.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Corbin (or other brand) seat wanted

[surfswab]

I'd be interested in that too, for just the gel pad installation.
Cover on my Corbin is pristine, so no need to replace.

Bike is a '95 NH, identical to yours and Javier's.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Nighthawk S

[Kim Paddock]

Hey all! There is a 1984 700 S in blue posted on the Boise, Idaho Craigslist 
for $1,800.00. It's a beauty! Take a lookI'd buy it if I weren't so broke.



  

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My NightHawk

[Kim Paddock]

A great bike at a great deal! You'll always love your first bike and you did 
well. HotrodMamma.





From: Reaper88 
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 11:34:44 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My NightHawk

Thank you, it's an 1983

On Jun 1, 1:19 am, Paul  wrote:
> *Hey Eric, welcome to the group and congrats on your 450. She's a beauty! *
> *
> *
> *Paul
> *
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Eric Burns wrote:
>
>
>
> > How's it going Paul? My names Eric and i live in Hamilton, Ontario. First
> > off love the site. Love the idea of all the info I need or want located in
> > one place. Plus the bonus of seeing that I'm not the only one who fell in
> > love with the NightHawk at first site. She's a CB450SC as you can see and It
> > is my first bike and I absolutely love driving it. I am the tenth owner, yea
> > 10th. Picked it up for a wopping $325. Hells yea! lmao and it was ready to
> > be safetied and driven just changed the oil and waited for clear
> > roads(december). Going to be giving it a new clutch in a week even though I
> > drive it every day. Got a custom paint job to cover up the last owners
> > "paint job". And already planning the next one. Getting my M2 in July,
> > hopefully!
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb Air Joint Hose Connections

[Kyle Munz]

There were no filters on mine, but who knows. There's not a lot of air being
sucked up through there. A few inches of hose hanging straight down would at
least keep the rain out. If you found some tiny enough K&Ns to stick on the
end of them it'd probably help. Might look neat too. Glen is right though,
there's also a tiny vacuum hose from the lefthand carb to the fuel petcock.
There's no T-fittings there though.

-Kyle


On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Glen Minty  wrote:

> What about your fuel petcock?  Is there a connection there for a hose?
>
> Glen.
>
> On Jun 16, 11:08 pm, Drslomo  wrote:
> > I have a 85' CB650SC that hasn't run since 94'. I purchased a
> > replacement set of carbs (same as what came installed) that I rebuilt
> > with new o-rings etc. The bike is now running but can't figure out the
> > the air joint hose connections. There are two lines coming off the air
> > joints which connect carbs 1-2 and another to 3-4 that go to a
> > junction where there is just one line that needs to be connected to
> > something. None of the books both Clymer and Honda show the routing.
> > There's definitely a vacuum on them as if I put my finger over the
> > "hole" the engine will stall. I can't believe it shouldn't be
> > connected to something like the air cleaner as fresh air is being
> > drawn into the carbs . No results were found when I searched the
> > forums so any help would be greatly appreciated! I could send a
> > picture of what it looks like if needed. Thanks to all for any help
> > provided!
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner

[Kyle Munz]

I understand trying to find ethanol free gas, I wish I could, but then
adding your own alcohol back into the mix to me is a waste of time.

-Kyle


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:18 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com <
greenzer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I dont see what the issue is with ethanol if you burn it through your
> system before it has a chance to separate and gum up... Marine people
> complain about ethanol more then anyone ive ever known. Case in point a
> "friend" of mine pays more money to buy ethonal free gas for his 2 stroke
> outboard, then puts rubbing alochol (isopropoal alochol) and maervel mystery
> oil into the mix (no, no 2 stroke oil at all) He claims that it boosts
> the octaine and removes water, but i see it as a waste of money... Anyway
> had to get that off my chest
> -Original Message-
> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:32:13 pm
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> From: "Graham Rogers" 
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner
>
> Hey GG, send some of that ethanol free stuff our way and a 55 gal
> drum of your Sta-bil,
> Graham '02 NH750
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:13 PM, eugene george wrote:
>
> > I recently purchased a 1999 750 NH that was in pristine condition
> > (5800 miles-always garage-kept). It has been a delight to own and
> > ride.
> > I've enjoyed following the posts to this group and learn something
> > new every day. I've followed with great interest the posts on the
> > use of Seafoam.  I have used the marine version of Sta-bil as a
> > fuel suplement, which has 4 times the additive as regular Sta-bil.
> > I also have found a gas station in Sarasota, Fl where I live that
> > sells 90 octane without ethanol.  The combination of the 2 have
> > left me with flawless performance.
> > Compliments to all who share their vast knowledge of the venerable NH.
> >
> > GG
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb Air Joint Hose Connections

[Glen Minty]

What about your fuel petcock?  Is there a connection there for a hose?

Glen.

On Jun 16, 11:08 pm, Drslomo  wrote:
> I have a 85' CB650SC that hasn't run since 94'. I purchased a
> replacement set of carbs (same as what came installed) that I rebuilt
> with new o-rings etc. The bike is now running but can't figure out the
> the air joint hose connections. There are two lines coming off the air
> joints which connect carbs 1-2 and another to 3-4 that go to a
> junction where there is just one line that needs to be connected to
> something. None of the books both Clymer and Honda show the routing.
> There's definitely a vacuum on them as if I put my finger over the
> "hole" the engine will stall. I can't believe it shouldn't be
> connected to something like the air cleaner as fresh air is being
> drawn into the carbs . No results were found when I searched the
> forums so any help would be greatly appreciated! I could send a
> picture of what it looks like if needed. Thanks to all for any help
> provided!
>
> Bob

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 82 750 chain gets ttight then loose

[Glen Minty]

More than likely, the chain is rusted in some spots. Take the front
sprocket cover off and spin the wheel, when you reach a tight spot you
will see the chain will not seat properly on the teeth.

No amount of adjusting will fix this.  Time to replace the chain.

Glen.

On Jun 17, 12:30 pm, mongoose22p  wrote:
> yes my chain gets tight when you turn the wheel it has a hard spot
> then it gets easy again any ideas my father inlaw says my chain
> streched but i dont know steve kville tn

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[Nighthawk Lovers] installing a kick starter

[dustin-t]

i have a 1983 honda nighthawk 550. the bike rides and runs great, and
i ride it on a daily basis. the only issue I really have is that my
starter is inconsistent and my battery can't hold a charge. I will
probably buy a new battery soon, but nevertheless, i push start my
bike almost every day. I have absolutely no qualms about this -- i
don't even bother with the electric starter most days. this can of
course be a bit inconvenient though depending on my destination!

anyway, i was thinking that i would love to have a kick start for my
bike so i could not worry about the electrical system and not worry
about finding a hill! any thoughts on if it would be possible AND not
too much of a pain in the ass to install a kick starter?

thanks,
Dustin

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Alcohol Schmakohol

[pa_sk8r]

DRAGSTERS Run It!    It's a Whole different ClassJun 17, 2010 09:18:55 PM, nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com wrote:I dont see what the issue is with ethanol if you burn it through your system before it has a chance to separate and gum up... Marine people complain about ethanol more then anyone ive ever known. Case in point a "friend" of mine pays more money to buy ethonal free gas for his 2 stroke outboard, then puts rubbing alochol (isopropoal alochol) and maervel mystery oil into the mix (no, no 2 stroke oil at all) He claims that it boosts the octaine and removes water, but i see it as a waste of money... Anyway had to get that off my chest -Original Message-Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:32:13 pmTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.comFrom: "Graham Rogers" Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 ownerHey GG, send some of that ethanol free stuff our way and a 55 gal  drum of your Sta-bil,Graham '02 NH750On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:13 PM, eugene george wrote:> I recently purchased a 1999 750 NH that was in pristine condition  > (5800 miles-always garage-kept). It has been a delight to own and  > ride.> I've enjoyed following the posts to this group and learn something  > new every day. I've followed with great interest the posts on the  > use of Seafoam.  I have used the marine version of Sta-bil as a  > fuel suplement, which has 4 times the additive as regular Sta-bil.   > I also have found a gas station in Sarasota, Fl where I live that  > sells 90 octane without ethanol.  The combination of the 2 have  > left me with flawless performance.> Compliments to all who share their vast knowledge of the venerable NH.>> GG>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google  > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group.> To post to this group, send email to  > nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com.> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group.To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group.To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.



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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 82 750 chain gets ttight then loose

[jgalban]

  He's right.  Chains tend to wear unevenly.  When you get to the
point where you have noticable tight and loose spots, it's time for a
new chain.  That one is worn out.

On Jun 17, 8:30 am, mongoose22p  wrote:
> yes my chain gets tight when you turn the wheel it has a hard spot
> then it gets easy again any ideas my father inlaw says my chain
> streched but i dont know steve kville tn

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