[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 700s on craigslist
both sound road trip worthy from central pa! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/7nGDmSqYFloJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 700s on craigslist
I went by and saw this one in person. In ggo shape, no leaks. He's flexable on the price too. http://eugene.craigslist.org/mcy/2762926824.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Listings / For Sale
Actually, I went by and saw the bike, took pics/video as well. It's in good shape, no leaks, very minor scrathes, small scrape under left front casting. Only thing not on are the rear signals, but they have them. (And yep, he's still in the picture, both were there at the time). I found a duplicate posting were there asking $1300 for it. There also flexable on the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Battery recommendations
Tad expensive, I've used Odyessy's and have good luck/longevity. Plus the Dist. Is local to me and get a better than online pricing. http://www.odysseybattery.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Honda Shadow 700
There's a 1984 Honda Shadow in this area I'd like to look at but the starter motor needs replacing. The owner says it's not easy to get at - remove the fly wheel which maybe behind the clutch slave cylinder. Anyone familiar with the bike and know what's involved in removing the starter? Graham (again) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Maybe the bowls are draining back out when it sits and gets cold and it doesn't have enough pump to fill them till its running On Jan 14, 2012 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
3,2,1...Seafoam! -Kyle On Jan 14, 2012 3:05 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
+1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
That makes sense because it seems more a time related issue than temperature but there's no sign of leaking gas, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jason King wrote: Maybe the bowls are draining back out when it sits and gets cold and it doesn't have enough pump to fill them till its running On Jan 14, 2012 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
For that I need a day with temps above 40 degrees. On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: 3,2,1...Seafoam! -Kyle On Jan 14, 2012 3:05 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
gravity fed, no enrichener circuit On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:24 PM, surfswab wrote: +1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:25:55 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
No, it's not like Suzukis and I've tried that - no vacuum leaks. It's a bit of a mystery isn't it, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:25:55 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
You threw me a curve with using two sets of carbs. If you use your hand to further choke the carbs will it start? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:40:01 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD No, it's not like Suzukis and I've tried that - no vacuum leaks. It's a bit of a mystery isn't it, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:25:55 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Leak down compression test? Im having simalar issues with my diesel ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 1/14/2012 8:39 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD gravity fed, no enrichener circuit On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:24 PM, surfswab wrote: +1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
True compression goes up when the engine gets hot. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:59:27 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Leak down compression test? Im having simalar issues with my diesel ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 1/14/2012 8:39 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD gravity fed, no enrichener circuit On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:24 PM, surfswab wrote: +1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
I'll check that but I don't think it would idle so well and so low if it had a compression problem besides it has great power On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:59 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: Leak down compression test? Im having simalar issues with my diesel ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 1/14/2012 8:39 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD gravity fed, no enrichener circuit On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:24 PM, surfswab wrote: +1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
choke is in the carbs, just open/close butterflies and remember I tried two separate sets of carbs, thoroughly cleaned with same results. On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
I think it might be the battery is a little week. Try to start with a charger hooked to it. It might not have enough juice for the coils to work. rodhall cb550sc -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Brand new battery but good thought. I'll give it an extra jump, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:57 PM, hall...@luckymail.com wrote: I think it might be the battery is a little week. Try to start with a charger hooked to it. It might not have enough juice for the coils to work. rodhall cb550sc -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Yes. +1 to that assessment. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:27 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Hey Graham, did you ever do anything with that GS1000 or that old KZ? On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. +1 to that assessment. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:27 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the choke work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
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