Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:17 PM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 02:10 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: Alarm set... 23:59:45 left... and I'm back. Windows 7 is installed and my GRUB menu is restored. Geez, that seemed to be an unnecessarily PITA experience. It's probably my own fault though, as usual. LOL When I first used the Mandriva DVD it took a couple of re-boots to get to the rescue console. Not sure what was up with that. Once I got the rescue console open, GRUB kept giving me an ERROR 15 file not found error for my 'stage1' file. I also tried SystemRescueCD to boot into the existing Linux install, but it couldn't find the stage1 file either. I did a bit of googling and saw mention of needing to reset the boot flag since the Windows install sets its partition to be bootable. So, I used SystemRescueCD to reset that flag on my boot partition. Went back to the Mandriva DVD and got back to the Rescue Console. Selected re-install bootloader which seemed to work except it wanted to use hd0,2 for some odd reason. (that's my FAT32 partition for shared Linux/Windows files.) So, I exited the GRUB console, went to the standard rescue console, and re-entered the GRUB console so that I could specify the root partition manually. That finally let me boot into my original GRUB menu instead of directly into Windows. However, the GRUB menu STILL showed the wrong root partition for my Linux install. So, I manually edited the GRUB entries and finally booted to Linux. Once safely in Linux, I manually made changes to menu.list to specify the correct Linux root partition and also added the Widows 7 entry. So, I think this is all in good shape... finally. But, during some of my thrashing around and trial/error, I think I changed my video driver and may need to reinstall the nVIDIA driver. geez. There was one thing that confused me for a while. In the GRUB console, you're setting the root partition. However, what it really needs to know is where the grub directory is. GRUB looks for /boot/grub/stage1 and /grub/stage1. So, if you have both a / and a /boot partition, pointing GRUB to your root partition will fail because your /grub/stage1 is actually in your boot partition. I think my finally understanding this was the beginning of making this work. In hindsight, I don't think the boot flag was the cause of my issues, but perhaps that plays a part? I hope this clarifies something for the next person who comes along. :-) If you have questions, ask them soon while it's sort of fresh in my mind. I'll have forgotten it by tomorrow. LOL JMJ Having the partition flagged as bootable is only needed if you had GRUB install to a partition (like your /boot partition). If GRUB is installed in the MBR (default for most ditros, but you can normally change it) then bootable is not needed. (Note this is different from where GRUB looks for it's files. I know somewhat confusing.) Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
On 08/16/2010 12:47 PM, Jack Coats wrote: do a backup and test it so you can come back if the worst happens and Winders decides to take over in spite of direction... :) heh heh... gotcha. Well, in the absence of Oh no, don't do that 'cause those instructions are wack!!!... I'm going in. Wish me luck and somebody come check on me if I'm not back in 24 hours. LOL JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:06 PM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: heh heh... gotcha. Well, in the absence of Oh no, don't do that 'cause those instructions are wack!!!... I'm going in. Wish me luck and somebody come check on me if I'm not back in 24 hours. LOL Alarm set... 23:59:45 left... Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
On 08/18/2010 02:10 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: Alarm set... 23:59:45 left... Oh no... a deadline! Geez, I don't know if I can handle the additional pressure! LOL JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
On 08/18/2010 02:10 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: Alarm set... 23:59:45 left... and I'm back. Windows 7 is installed and my GRUB menu is restored. Geez, that seemed to be an unnecessarily PITA experience. It's probably my own fault though, as usual. LOL When I first used the Mandriva DVD it took a couple of re-boots to get to the rescue console. Not sure what was up with that. Once I got the rescue console open, GRUB kept giving me an ERROR 15 file not found error for my 'stage1' file. I also tried SystemRescueCD to boot into the existing Linux install, but it couldn't find the stage1 file either. I did a bit of googling and saw mention of needing to reset the boot flag since the Windows install sets its partition to be bootable. So, I used SystemRescueCD to reset that flag on my boot partition. Went back to the Mandriva DVD and got back to the Rescue Console. Selected re-install bootloader which seemed to work except it wanted to use hd0,2 for some odd reason. (that's my FAT32 partition for shared Linux/Windows files.) So, I exited the GRUB console, went to the standard rescue console, and re-entered the GRUB console so that I could specify the root partition manually. That finally let me boot into my original GRUB menu instead of directly into Windows. However, the GRUB menu STILL showed the wrong root partition for my Linux install. So, I manually edited the GRUB entries and finally booted to Linux. Once safely in Linux, I manually made changes to menu.list to specify the correct Linux root partition and also added the Widows 7 entry. So, I think this is all in good shape... finally. But, during some of my thrashing around and trial/error, I think I changed my video driver and may need to reinstall the nVIDIA driver. geez. There was one thing that confused me for a while. In the GRUB console, you're setting the root partition. However, what it really needs to know is where the grub directory is. GRUB looks for /boot/grub/stage1 and /grub/stage1. So, if you have both a / and a /boot partition, pointing GRUB to your root partition will fail because your /grub/stage1 is actually in your boot partition. I think my finally understanding this was the beginning of making this work. In hindsight, I don't think the boot flag was the cause of my issues, but perhaps that plays a part? I hope this clarifies something for the next person who comes along. :-) If you have questions, ask them soon while it's sort of fresh in my mind. I'll have forgotten it by tomorrow. LOL JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
[nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
... I just want to confirm the instructions I found on how to restore GRUB so that I regain access to Linux after the Windows install overwrites the MBR. This is what I found.. === Boot the system from a live CD Open a Terminal session To enter the GRUB configuration mode, type in sudo grub and press Enter and enter your password. Then type in the following commands in sequence: root (hd0,2) [tweaked to fit my drive/partitions] setup (hd0) quit exit Boot into Linux and open up another Terminal session. Then, type in sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst Scroll down to the bottom of the file and type in the following text strings: title Windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 === Is that correct? Any thing else that I need to plan to do? I know this is relatively simple, but I've grown tired of making trial and error config changes to this new install. :-) Thanks! JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
When it comes to running Linux and Windows on the same system, it is always best to install Windows before installing Linux, since most Linux installers will detect the Windows installation and setup grub on the MBR appropriately. Of course, in your setup, it sounds like you've already got Linux installed, and I'm guessing you don't want to reinstall : ) Chris On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: ... I just want to confirm the instructions I found on how to restore GRUB so that I regain access to Linux after the Windows install overwrites the MBR. This is what I found.. === Boot the system from a live CD Open a Terminal session To enter the GRUB configuration mode, type in sudo grub and press Enter and enter your password. Then type in the following commands in sequence: root (hd0,2) [tweaked to fit my drive/partitions] setup (hd0) quit exit Boot into Linux and open up another Terminal session. Then, type in sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst Scroll down to the bottom of the file and type in the following text strings: title Windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 === Is that correct? Any thing else that I need to plan to do? I know this is relatively simple, but I've grown tired of making trial and error config changes to this new install. :-) Thanks! JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
On 08/16/2010 10:49 AM, Chris McQuistion wrote: When it comes to running Linux and Windows on the same system, it is always best to install Windows before installing Linux True, that's always been what I've had to deal with in the past. Of course, in your setup, it sounds like you've already got Linux installed, and I'm guessing you don't want to reinstall : ) Exactly. LOL I should also have mentioned that I already have Mandriva 2010.1 installed and mostly configured to my liking. Therefore, the partitioning of the drive is also done, and an 100GB partition is waiting for Windows 7. JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Before I install Windows 7....
And from the voice of been there done that to myself before, do a backup and test it so you can come back if the worst happens and Winders decides to take over in spite of direction... :) ... Jack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
