Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
Would people really sign for Kevin "Sign for this club and you'll be high and dry when I wet my pants in six weeks and walk out" Keegan now? I think the elephant in the room is that ageing premiership footballers can get 40k a week somewhere else. They don't love anyone enough to take a massive drop in wages unless they're too old to make a difference (e.g. Oleg Luhzny). Curbishley is the only one in that list that appeals to me. If and when we change manager this time I'd like everyone in NSWolves to put realistic preferences for managers. Then, when they turn out to be pony they aren't allowed to moan. 2009/11/30 > Radical thought, how about Keegan down the Molineux? > > > > Attacking football and able to attract “bigger name” player’s. Don’t worry > about the defence, he couldn’t make it any worse than it is now! > > > > Seriously, out of all the potential and available Manager’s who would you > have: > > > > Coppell > > Curbishley > > Keegan > > Souness > > McClaren > > Houllier > > + anyone else? > > > > Interested to see who you lot would prefer? > > > > Regards > > > > Paul. > -- > > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 1:03 PM > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] > > > > They paid Scott Dann 6,000 pounds more a week than we were willing to on > top of $3.5m transfer fee. I assume we offered him ten grand and Birmingham > offered sixteen. > > > > > > > > 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry > > but I'm not 100% convinced that it can only be down to the salary cap. The > Scott Dann case is an interesting one as I'm fairly sure that Berra and > Zubar would be on more than he's getting at Blue and there are other players > in the squad such as Doyle and SEB who are earning significantly more, so it > seems that if they see the player as being important enough then they are > happy to pay the wages. > > > > Perhaps Mick set his sights too high with some of the experienced Premier > league players that he wanted to bring in and therefore left himself without > a back-up plan. Maybe the wages have nothing to with it, other than for > Dann who they probably tried to get cheap as he was coming from lower > divisions. > > > > *Marcus Chantry* |* ** Associate Director* > > *Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life* > Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia > *T* +61 2 8232 4259 | * **M* 0448 887 627 > > *E **marcus.chan...@macquarie.com* > > > > *P* > > > *Please consider the environment before printing this email.* > > > > > > > -- > > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 12:38 PM > > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] > > > > I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems no > one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in because of > wage caps. Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the wages of. > There's a big difference. > > > > > > > > 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry > > I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete in > this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so far > and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be changed > around, he seems devoid of ideas. *Now if it is the players at his > disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely his own > fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he bought.* > > > > If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better > footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team > that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing as > if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's > strengths. We do need to try something different and I think Saturday > showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become. > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd > pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries and > is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what was his tactical > stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The man's a friggin > basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his
RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
unfortunately there's a reason why these managers don't currently have jobs and haven't had one for some time. It's also the same reason why Mick should also be unemployed they're sh!te. Also unfortunately, I can't think of who we'd be able to attract, other than a lower division manager who is doing well and wants to try and prove themself at a higher level. I wouldn't mind Houllier (at a stretch) but the French have a habit of quitting when things get tough. From: pcr...@contechengineering.com [mailto:pcr...@contechengineering.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 2:07 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] Radical thought, how about Keegan down the Molineux? Attacking football and able to attract "bigger name" player's. Don't worry about the defence, he couldn't make it any worse than it is now! Seriously, out of all the potential and available Manager's who would you have: Coppell Curbishley Keegan Souness McClaren Houllier + anyone else? Interested to see who you lot would prefer? Regards Paul. From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 1:03 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] They paid Scott Dann 6,000 pounds more a week than we were willing to on top of $3.5m transfer fee. I assume we offered him ten grand and Birmingham offered sixteen. 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry but I'm not 100% convinced that it can only be down to the salary cap. The Scott Dann case is an interesting one as I'm fairly sure that Berra and Zubar would be on more than he's getting at Blue and there are other players in the squad such as Doyle and SEB who are earning significantly more, so it seems that if they see the player as being important enough then they are happy to pay the wages. Perhaps Mick set his sights too high with some of the experienced Premier league players that he wanted to bring in and therefore left himself without a back-up plan. Maybe the wages have nothing to with it, other than for Dann who they probably tried to get cheap as he was coming from lower divisions. Marcus Chantry | Associate Director Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia T +61 2 8232 4259 | M 0448 887 627 E marcus.chan...@macquarie.com P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:38 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems no one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in because of wage caps. Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the wages of. There's a big difference. 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete in this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so far and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be changed around, he seems devoid of ideas. Now if it is the players at his disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely his own fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he bought. If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing as if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's strengths. We do need to try something different and I think Saturday showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries and is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what was his tactical stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The man's a friggin basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and send back home to Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim. From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either: (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty of rumours that we were after some of these). (b) didn'
RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
Radical thought, how about Keegan down the Molineux? Attacking football and able to attract "bigger name" player's. Don't worry about the defence, he couldn't make it any worse than it is now! Seriously, out of all the potential and available Manager's who would you have: Coppell Curbishley Keegan Souness McClaren Houllier + anyone else? Interested to see who you lot would prefer? Regards Paul. _ From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 1:03 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] They paid Scott Dann 6,000 pounds more a week than we were willing to on top of $3.5m transfer fee. I assume we offered him ten grand and Birmingham offered sixteen. 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry but I'm not 100% convinced that it can only be down to the salary cap. The Scott Dann case is an interesting one as I'm fairly sure that Berra and Zubar would be on more than he's getting at Blue and there are other players in the squad such as Doyle and SEB who are earning significantly more, so it seems that if they see the player as being important enough then they are happy to pay the wages. Perhaps Mick set his sights too high with some of the experienced Premier league players that he wanted to bring in and therefore left himself without a back-up plan. Maybe the wages have nothing to with it, other than for Dann who they probably tried to get cheap as he was coming from lower divisions. Marcus Chantry | Associate Director Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia T +61 2 8232 4259 | M 0448 887 627 E marcus.chan...@macquarie.com P Please consider the environment before printing this email. _ From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:38 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems no one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in because of wage caps. Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the wages of. There's a big difference. 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete in this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so far and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be changed around, he seems devoid of ideas. Now if it is the players at his disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely his own fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he bought. If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing as if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's strengths. We do need to try something different and I think Saturday showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries and is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what was his tactical stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The man's a friggin basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and send back home to Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim. _ From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either: (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty of rumours that we were after some of these). (b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault). (c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs (and who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be able to compete). I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players in January that will improve the first XI and will be willing to come to the club. It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does everyone think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough out of them? A new manager will only address the second point. 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't got one player who has previously performed well in this league. The wage structure is that of a top championsh
Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
They paid Scott Dann 6,000 pounds more a week than we were willing to on top of $3.5m transfer fee. I assume we offered him ten grand and Birmingham offered sixteen. 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry > but I'm not 100% convinced that it can only be down to the salary cap. > The Scott Dann case is an interesting one as I'm fairly sure that Berra and > Zubar would be on more than he's getting at Blue and there are other players > in the squad such as Doyle and SEB who are earning significantly more, so it > seems that if they see the player as being important enough then they are > happy to pay the wages. > > Perhaps Mick set his sights too high with some of the experienced Premier > league players that he wanted to bring in and therefore left himself without > a back-up plan. Maybe the wages have nothing to with it, other than for > Dann who they probably tried to get cheap as he was coming from lower > divisions. > > > *Marcus Chantry* |* ** Associate Director* > > *Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life* > Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia > *T* +61 2 8232 4259 | * **M* 0448 887 627 > > *E **marcus.chan...@macquarie.com* > ** > > > > *P* > > > *Please consider the environment before printing this email.* > > > > -- > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 12:38 PM > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] > > I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems > no one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in because > of wage caps. Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the wages of. > There's a big difference. > > > > > 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry > >> I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete >> in this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so far >> and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be changed >> around, he seems devoid of ideas. *Now if it is the players at his >> disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely his own >> fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he bought.* >> >> If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better >> footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team >> that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing as >> if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's >> strengths. We do need to try something different and I think Saturday >> showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become. >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd >> pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries and >> is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what was his tactical >> stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The man's a friggin >> basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and send back home to >> Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim. >> >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM >> >> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] >> >> I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either: >> >> (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty >> of rumours that we were after some of these). >> >> (b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault). >> >> (c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs (and >> who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be able to >> compete). >> >> I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players in January >> that will improve the first XI *and* will be willing to come to the club. >> >> It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does everyone >> think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough out >> of them? A new manager will only address the second point. >> >> >> >> >> 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT >> >>> So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't got >>> one player who has previously performed well in th
RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
but I'm not 100% convinced that it can only be down to the salary cap.
The Scott Dann case is an interesting one as I'm fairly sure that Berra
and Zubar would be on more than he's getting at Blue and there are other
players in the squad such as Doyle and SEB who are earning significantly
more, so it seems that if they see the player as being important enough
then they are happy to pay the wages.
Perhaps Mick set his sights too high with some of the experienced
Premier league players that he wanted to bring in and therefore left
himself without a back-up plan. Maybe the wages have nothing to with
it, other than for Dann who they probably tried to get cheap as he was
coming from lower divisions.
Marcus Chantry | Associate Director
Senior Product Manager - Macquarie Life
Level 3, 1 Shelley Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
T +61 2 8232 4259 | M 0448 887 627
E marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
P
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:38 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems
no one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in
because of wage caps. Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the
wages of. There's a big difference.
2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry
I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to
complete in this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only
get you so far and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously
need to be changed around, he seems devoid of ideas. Now if it is the
players at his disposal that limit is tactical options then that is
almost entirely his own fault, if we assume that he personally selected
the players he bought.
If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a
better footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in
the team that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team
playing as if they know each other and understand how to play to each
other's strengths. We do need to try something different and I think
Saturday showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has
become.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that
he'd pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling
injuries and is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what
was his tactical stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The
man's a friggin basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and
send back home to Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim.
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this?
[sec=unclassified]
I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience
either:
(a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty
of rumours that we were after some of these).
(b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault).
(c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other
clubs (and who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should
be able to compete).
I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players
in January that will improve the first XI and will be willing to come to
the club.
It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does
everyone think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting
enough out of them? A new manager will only address the second point.
2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT
So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We
haven't got one player who has previously performed well in this league.
The wage structure is that of a top championship team.
If that is Moxey or Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can
we? We will find out in January because if we don't make some
significant quality signings we are doomed, surely that is plain for
everyone to see now..
The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it
scares the life out of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go
for it?
From: Steven Millward [mail
Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
they seem to playing as if they are a established premier team? They have to get rid of that stupid huddle they go in to before kick off!!! They have to start tackling and not let the oppostion gain any ground like they have been!!! Seb is not up to Prem standard as yet what happened to the neck, know he was susspened back must be back now that Halford is a waste of space.long throw or not (should be put at right back...if he can tackle)!!! If Wolves are to stay up the 3 M's have to be ruthless and pull the team apart and decipher who can play were and then pick a sqaud that can go out there and play their socks off..EVERY WEEK Look what Stoke did, their players played as if there was no tomorrow, tackled, ran the 90+ minutes and at the end they stayed up. If Wolves carry on like they are they will go down Morgan needs to buy PREMIER players to help the cause. Steven Millward wrote: > I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either: > > (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty > of rumours that we were after some of these). > > (b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault). > > (c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs > (and who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be > able to compete). > > I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players in > January that will improve the first XI _and_ will be willing to come > to the club. > > It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does everyone > think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough > out of them? A new manager will only address the second point. > > > > > 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT <mailto:lee.mor...@defence.gov.au>> > > So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't > got one player who has previously performed well in this league. > > The wage structure is that of a top championship team. If that is > Moxey or Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can we? > We will find out in January because if we don't make some > significant quality signings we are doomed, surely that is plain > for everyone to see now.. > > The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it scares the > life out of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go for it? > > > > > > > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com > <mailto:millward@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:43 > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com <mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? > [sec=unclassified] > > But that relates to my point about Scott Dann. We got the players > that were willing to accept the wages we offered. That's Morgan > and Moxey's fault. > > 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT <mailto:lee.mor...@defence.gov.au>> > > Ultimately McCarthy > > They are the players he has brought in and the players he > thinks are good enough. > > Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can > they do? Keep trying until it becomes easier in the > championship next year > > > ------------------------ > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com > <mailto:millward@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12 > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com <mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? > [sec=unclassified] > > So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault? > > > > > 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT <mailto:lee.mor...@defence.gov.au>> > > > It really was terrible stuff. > > I'm not going to blame any individuals because its obvious > most of them aren't good enough, however here are my > thoughts on an inept few; > > Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to > have a clue where he was supposed to be. > Ward made a big difference when he came on but > collectively even that wasn't good enoug
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I agree that there have been some weird tactical decisions but it seems no one is willing to accept that we can't get the right players in because of wage caps. Mick picked those who he could afford to pay the wages of. There's a big difference. 2009/11/30 Marcus Chantry > I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete > in this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so far > and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be changed > around, he seems devoid of ideas. *Now if it is the players at his > disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely his own > fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he bought.* > > If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better > footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team > that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing as > if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's > strengths. We do need to try something different and I think Saturday > showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become. > > Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd > pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries and > is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what was his tactical > stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The man's a friggin > basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and send back home to > Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim. > > > > -- > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] > > I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either: > > (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty of rumours > that we were after some of these). > > (b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault). > > (c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs (and > who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be able to > compete). > > I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players in January > that will improve the first XI *and* will be willing to come to the club. > > It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does everyone think > the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough out of > them? A new manager will only address the second point. > > > > > 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT > >> So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't got one >> player who has previously performed well in this league. >> >> The wage structure is that of a top championship team. If that is Moxey or >> Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can we? We will find out in >> January because if we don't make some significant quality signings we are >> doomed, surely that is plain for everyone to see now.. >> >> The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it scares the life out >> of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go for it? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:43 >> >> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] >> >> But that relates to my point about Scott Dann. We got the players that >> were willing to accept the wages we offered. That's Morgan and Moxey's >> fault. >> >> 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT >> >>> Ultimately McCarthy >>> >>> They are the players he has brought in and the players he thinks are good >>> enough. >>> >>> Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can they do? >>> Keep trying until it becomes easier in the championship next >>> year >>> >>> -- >>> *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12 >>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] >>> >>> So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault? >>> >>> >>> >&
RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
I genuinely think that Mick has run out of ideas tactically to complete
in this division. Putting in a shift and hard work will only get you so
far and now that it's come to point where tactics obviously need to be
changed around, he seems devoid of ideas. Now if it is the players at
his disposal that limit is tactical options then that is almost entirely
his own fault, if we assume that he personally selected the players he
bought.
If we are able and willing to get another manager in who has a better
footballing brain then maybe he'll be able to spot something in the team
that Mick hasn't, and that might just be enough to get the team playing
as if they know each other and understand how to play to each other's
strengths. We do need to try something different and I think Saturday
showed exactly how desperate and tactically inept Mick has become.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mick say during the week that he'd
pulled Kightly out of the squad because he still has niggling injuries
and is off the pace to place in the Premier League? So what was his
tactical stroke of genius on 32 minutes, bring on Kightly!! The man's a
friggin basket case. Morgan should help Mick pack his bag and send back
home to Barnsley where they appreciate everything grim.
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:22 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either:
(a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty of
rumours that we were after some of these).
(b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault).
(c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs
(and who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be
able to compete).
I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players in
January that will improve the first XI and will be willing to come to
the club.
It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does everyone
think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough
out of them? A new manager will only address the second point.
2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT
So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't
got one player who has previously performed well in this league.
The wage structure is that of a top championship team. If that
is Moxey or Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can we? We
will find out in January because if we don't make some significant
quality signings we are doomed, surely that is plain for everyone to see
now..
The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it scares
the life out of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go for
it?
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 08:43
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this?
[sec=unclassified]
But that relates to my point about Scott Dann. We got the
players that were willing to accept the wages we offered. That's Morgan
and Moxey's fault.
2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT
Ultimately McCarthy
They are the players he has brought in and the players
he thinks are good enough.
Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what
can they do? Keep trying until it becomes easier in the championship
next year
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this?
[sec=unclassified]
So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault?
2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT
It really was terrible stuff.
I'm not going to blame any individuals because
its obvious most of them aren't good enough, however here are my
thoughts on an inept few;
Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't
seem to have a clue where he was supposed to be.
Ward made a big difference when he came on but
collectively even that wasn't good enough at least he gets stuc
Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
I can only assume that the players with Premiership experience either: (a) weren't approached (Mick's fault, although there were plenty of rumours that we were after some of these). (b) didn't like the wages being offered (not Mick's fault). (c) didn't like something else about the club relative to other clubs (and who knows what this might have been if not wages as we should be able to compete). I agree that we are doomed. I don't believe we'll find players in January that will improve the first XI *and* will be willing to come to the club. It will be interesting to see if Mick gets sacked now. Does everyone think the players aren't good enough or that Mick's now getting enough out of them? A new manager will only address the second point. 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT > So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't got one > player who has previously performed well in this league. > > The wage structure is that of a top championship team. If that is Moxey or > Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can we? We will find out in > January because if we don't make some significant quality signings we are > doomed, surely that is plain for everyone to see now.. > > The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it scares the life out > of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go for it? > > > > > > -- > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward....@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:43 > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] > > But that relates to my point about Scott Dann. We got the players that > were willing to accept the wages we offered. That's Morgan and Moxey's > fault. > > 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT > >> Ultimately McCarthy >> >> They are the players he has brought in and the players he thinks are good >> enough. >> >> Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can they do? Keep >> trying until it becomes easier in the championship next year???????? >> >> ------ >> *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12 >> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] >> >> So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault? >> >> >> >> >> 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT >> >>> >>> It really was terrible stuff. >>> >>> I'm not going to blame any individuals because its obvious most of them >>> aren't good enough, however here are my thoughts on an inept few; >>> >>> Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to have a clue where >>> he was supposed to be. >>> Ward made a big difference when he came on but collectively even that >>> wasn't good enough at least he gets stuck in and is more decisive than most. >>> Ebanks Blake didn't get any good service but whenever he got near the >>> ball he gave it away and fell in a heap on most occasions. Don't think its >>> going to happen for him. >>> Edwards gets involved but he was very lucky not to get booked because of >>> clumsy tackles, not too bad. >>> Jarvis was our only threat. >>> Kightly, who know's, that's probably the last we'll see of him for a >>> while. >>> Halford, good job he can throw the ball a long way, but there's rarely >>> anyone to take advantage. >>> Hannerman looked very dodgy to start with, might be ok long term though. >>> Stearman did what I'd expect of him and gets forward >>> Henry does the simple things well and always gets lots of praise, maybe >>> if he tried to be more creative his shortfalls would be more obvious, don't >>> think he's that special. >>> Milijas, still think he'd be very effective alongside a bruiser, by far >>> our best passer of the ball. >>> >>> McCarthy, time to say goodbye, if he thinks these players are still good >>> enough after all this time we are doomed. What must Halford be thinking, >>> taken off so early because MM got it wrong, Mancienne would of been first >>> off for me. >>> >>> New manager and some new players who will make a difference for Christmas >>> PLEASE SANTA = A STRIKER / BRUISING MIDFIELDER / WINGER / EXPERIENCED >>> CENTRAL DEFENDER just for starters, but get the new manager in first. >>> >>> Yes I did back us on the TAB again, even I didn't think we were this bad. >>> >>> -- >>> Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid >>> >> >> -- >> Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid >> >> -- >> Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid >> > > -- > Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid > > -- > Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid > -- Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
So what happened to all "the premiership experience"? We haven't got one
player who has previously performed well in this league.
The wage structure is that of a top championship team. If that is Moxey
or Morgan's fault fair enough, we can't sack Morgan can we? We will find
out in January because if we don't make some significant quality
signings we are doomed, surely that is plain for everyone to see now..
The yo yo effect doesn't interest me at all, infact it scares the life
out of me. We are where we want to be NOW, so why not go for it?
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 08:43
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
But that relates to my point about Scott Dann. We got the players that
were willing to accept the wages we offered. That's Morgan and Moxey's
fault.
2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT
Ultimately McCarthy
They are the players he has brought in and the players he thinks
are good enough.
Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can
they do? Keep trying until it becomes easier in the championship next
year
From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this?
[sec=unclassified]
So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault?
2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT
It really was terrible stuff.
I'm not going to blame any individuals because its
obvious most of them aren't good enough, however here are my thoughts on
an inept few;
Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to
have a clue where he was supposed to be.
Ward made a big difference when he came on but
collectively even that wasn't good enough at least he gets stuck in and
is more decisive than most.
Ebanks Blake didn't get any good service but whenever he
got near the ball he gave it away and fell in a heap on most occasions.
Don't think its going to happen for him.
Edwards gets involved but he was very lucky not to get
booked because of clumsy tackles, not too bad.
Jarvis was our only threat.
Kightly, who know's, that's probably the last we'll see
of him for a while.
Halford, good job he can throw the ball a long way, but
there's rarely anyone to take advantage.
Hannerman looked very dodgy to start with, might be ok
long term though.
Stearman did what I'd expect of him and gets forward
Henry does the simple things well and always gets lots
of praise, maybe if he tried to be more creative his shortfalls would be
more obvious, don't think he's that special.
Milijas, still think he'd be very effective alongside a
bruiser, by far our best passer of the ball.
McCarthy, time to say goodbye, if he thinks these
players are still good enough after all this time we are doomed. What
must Halford be thinking, taken off so early because MM got it wrong,
Mancienne would of been first off for me.
New manager and some new players who will make a
difference for Christmas PLEASE SANTA = A STRIKER / BRUISING MIDFIELDER
/ WINGER / EXPERIENCED CENTRAL DEFENDER just for starters, but get the
new manager in first.
Yes I did back us on the TAB again, even I didn't think
we were this bad.
--
Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
--
Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
--
Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
--
Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
--
Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
But that relates to my point about Scott Dann. We got the players that were willing to accept the wages we offered. That's Morgan and Moxey's fault. 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT > Ultimately McCarthy > > They are the players he has brought in and the players he thinks are good > enough. > > Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can they do? Keep > trying until it becomes easier in the championship next year > > -- > *From:* Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12 > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] > > So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault? > > > > > 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT > >> >> It really was terrible stuff. >> >> I'm not going to blame any individuals because its obvious most of them >> aren't good enough, however here are my thoughts on an inept few; >> >> Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to have a clue where >> he was supposed to be. >> Ward made a big difference when he came on but collectively even that >> wasn't good enough at least he gets stuck in and is more decisive than most. >> Ebanks Blake didn't get any good service but whenever he got near the ball >> he gave it away and fell in a heap on most occasions. Don't think its going >> to happen for him. >> Edwards gets involved but he was very lucky not to get booked because of >> clumsy tackles, not too bad. >> Jarvis was our only threat. >> Kightly, who know's, that's probably the last we'll see of him for a >> while. >> Halford, good job he can throw the ball a long way, but there's rarely >> anyone to take advantage. >> Hannerman looked very dodgy to start with, might be ok long term though. >> Stearman did what I'd expect of him and gets forward >> Henry does the simple things well and always gets lots of praise, maybe if >> he tried to be more creative his shortfalls would be more obvious, don't >> think he's that special. >> Milijas, still think he'd be very effective alongside a bruiser, by far >> our best passer of the ball. >> >> McCarthy, time to say goodbye, if he thinks these players are still good >> enough after all this time we are doomed. What must Halford be thinking, >> taken off so early because MM got it wrong, Mancienne would of been first >> off for me. >> >> New manager and some new players who will make a difference for Christmas >> PLEASE SANTA = A STRIKER / BRUISING MIDFIELDER / WINGER / EXPERIENCED >> CENTRAL DEFENDER just for starters, but get the new manager in first. >> >> Yes I did back us on the TAB again, even I didn't think we were this bad. >> >> -- >> Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid >> > > -- > Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid > > -- > Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid > -- Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
RE: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
Ultimately McCarthy They are the players he has brought in and the players he thinks are good enough. Can't blame the players if they aren't good enough, what can they do? Keep trying until it becomes easier in the championship next year From: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 08:12 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified] So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault? 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT It really was terrible stuff. I'm not going to blame any individuals because its obvious most of them aren't good enough, however here are my thoughts on an inept few; Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to have a clue where he was supposed to be. Ward made a big difference when he came on but collectively even that wasn't good enough at least he gets stuck in and is more decisive than most. Ebanks Blake didn't get any good service but whenever he got near the ball he gave it away and fell in a heap on most occasions. Don't think its going to happen for him. Edwards gets involved but he was very lucky not to get booked because of clumsy tackles, not too bad. Jarvis was our only threat. Kightly, who know's, that's probably the last we'll see of him for a while. Halford, good job he can throw the ball a long way, but there's rarely anyone to take advantage. Hannerman looked very dodgy to start with, might be ok long term though. Stearman did what I'd expect of him and gets forward Henry does the simple things well and always gets lots of praise, maybe if he tried to be more creative his shortfalls would be more obvious, don't think he's that special. Milijas, still think he'd be very effective alongside a bruiser, by far our best passer of the ball. McCarthy, time to say goodbye, if he thinks these players are still good enough after all this time we are doomed. What must Halford be thinking, taken off so early because MM got it wrong, Mancienne would of been first off for me. New manager and some new players who will make a difference for Christmas PLEASE SANTA = A STRIKER / BRUISING MIDFIELDER / WINGER / EXPERIENCED CENTRAL DEFENDER just for starters, but get the new manager in first. Yes I did back us on the TAB again, even I didn't think we were this bad. -- Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -- Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -- Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
Re: FW: [NSWolves] Why am I watching this? [sec=unclassified]
So is it the players or McCarthy that are at fault? 2009/11/30 Morris, Lee SGT > > It really was terrible stuff. > > I'm not going to blame any individuals because its obvious most of them > aren't good enough, however here are my thoughts on an inept few; > > Mancienne looked totally useless to me, didn't seem to have a clue where he > was supposed to be. > Ward made a big difference when he came on but collectively even that > wasn't good enough at least he gets stuck in and is more decisive than most. > Ebanks Blake didn't get any good service but whenever he got near the ball > he gave it away and fell in a heap on most occasions. Don't think its going > to happen for him. > Edwards gets involved but he was very lucky not to get booked because of > clumsy tackles, not too bad. > Jarvis was our only threat. > Kightly, who know's, that's probably the last we'll see of him for a while. > Halford, good job he can throw the ball a long way, but there's rarely > anyone to take advantage. > Hannerman looked very dodgy to start with, might be ok long term though. > Stearman did what I'd expect of him and gets forward > Henry does the simple things well and always gets lots of praise, maybe if > he tried to be more creative his shortfalls would be more obvious, don't > think he's that special. > Milijas, still think he'd be very effective alongside a bruiser, by far > our best passer of the ball. > > McCarthy, time to say goodbye, if he thinks these players are still good > enough after all this time we are doomed. What must Halford be thinking, > taken off so early because MM got it wrong, Mancienne would of been first > off for me. > > New manager and some new players who will make a difference for Christmas > PLEASE SANTA = A STRIKER / BRUISING MIDFIELDER / WINGER / EXPERIENCED > CENTRAL DEFENDER just for starters, but get the new manager in first. > > Yes I did back us on the TAB again, even I didn't think we were this bad. > > -- > Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid > -- Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid
