Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hi Hraban,

> Never heard about sectionworld before - ConTeXt's sources still
> aren't my usual bedtime reading.

It was only mentioned in one of the release notes.

> I just managed to add outputting the author (not only in the ToC)...
>
> Could you please show me how to set also the header to "Author: Title"?
>
> BTW: Just added rsyncing luaTeX binaries to my daily update script,
> format generation went through, will try more tomorrow...
> (Thanks Mojca, Wolfgang, Hans, Taco, Luigi etc. so far!)

No problem.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

[Suno Ano]

 >| On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:19:18 +0200,
 >| Matija Šuklje
 >| who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >| (whose comments are cited below with " Matija> "),
 >| had this to say in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >| in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
 >| concerning the subject of Fonts and other tips for thesis and other 
 >academic works

 Matija> Hullo, Now that I'm fairly happy with the citation and basic
 Matija> styling of my template for my seminary, research works and
 Matija> thesis, I'd like to take up the fonts and styling of it.
I took a look at those templates [0] -- nice work.

Would you mind translating your comments into English? That would help
others (including me) a lot! Tia :-)



 Matija> So, what I'd like to know is which fonts do you suggest for
 Matija> academic works and what are the basic styling tips for such
 Matija> works?
Take a look at
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf --> chapter 5

You want to pick a font family which has entire support for mathematical
glyphs like for example
 - Computer Modern Roman or
 - Lucia Bright


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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

[Arthur Reutenauer]

>but if we support such a 
> thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space 
> related chars that needs treatment then

  There's not much to it, actually.  There are some space characters in
Unicode, and we should handle them as much Unicode-compliantly as
possible; and there are some particular typographic conventions on top
of that, for each language.  It's easy to come up with a simple scheme
to support both, and I've already outlined it on a different
mailing-list (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008529.html).
The problem is to decide how much of the users' old typing habits we
want to take in account (and, Olivier, another message by me in the same
thread addresses the exact same issues you were raising a few days ago:
http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008533.html).

  I can discuss that with you at BachoTeX, Hans.  It's best done around
a beer or two, anyway ;-)

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> well, luatex/mkiv runs happily on our linux servers; my development 
> machine runs vista, and taco's runs linux and we happily generatet 
> multiple new formats per day ...

  ... and Mark IV has been successfully run on Sparc Solaris and Sparc
Linux as well ;-)

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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

I have now:

\unprotect

\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}

\startsetups chapter:list

   \doifsomething{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
 {\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
   {\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}

   \def\ChapterAuthor{{\rm\tf\sectionworldparameter\c!author}}
   \def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfa\sectionworldparameter\c!text}}
   \def\ChapterSubTitle{{\ss\bf\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}}

\stopsetups

\setupsectionworld  [chapter]
   [setups={chapter:list},
author=]

\def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
   {\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\crlf\ChapterTitle\crlf\ChapterSubTitle}}

\let\ChapterAuthor\relax
\let\ChapterTitle\relax
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax

\protect

\setuphead  [chapter]
[incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
 page=yes,number=no,
 align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}
]


The result is about:

\rm\tfa Author
\ss\bf Title
\ss\bfa Subtitle

instead of (like I defined):

\rm\tf Author
\ss\bfa Title
\ss\bf SubTitle

Why?


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[NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

[Matija Šuklje]

Hullo,

Now that I'm fairly happy with the citation and basic styling of my template 
for my seminary, research works and thesis, I'd like to take up the fonts and 
styling of it.

So, what I'd like to know is which fonts do you suggest for academic works and 
what are the basic styling tips for such works?


Cheers,
Matija


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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2008-04-15 um 10:03 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> Try this.
>
> \unprotect
>
> \resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
>
> \startsetups chapter:list
>
>   \doifsomething{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
> {\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
>   {\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
>\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
>
>   \def\ChapterSubTitle{\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}
>
> \stopsetups
>
> \setupsectionworld
>   [chapter]
>   [setups={chapter:list},
>author=]
>
> \def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
>   {\vbox{#2\crlf\ChapterSubTitle}}
>
> \let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
>
> \protect
>
> \setuphead
>   [chapter]
>   [incrementnumber=no,
>command=\ChapterCommand]
>
> \starttext
> \completecontent
> \startsectionworld[chapter][author=Hans,text=Chapter  
> One,subtitle=The Beginning]
> \startsectionworld[chapter][author=Tom,text=Chapter  
> Two,subtitle=The End]
> \stopsectionworld
> \stopsectionworld
> \stoptext

Interesting idea, thank you very much!

Never heard about sectionworld before - ConTeXt's sources still  
aren't my usual bedtime reading.

I just managed to add outputting the author (not only in the ToC)...

Could you please show me how to set also the header to "Author: Title"?


BTW: Just added rsyncing luaTeX binaries to my daily update script,  
format generation went through, will try more tomorrow...
(Thanks Mojca, Wolfgang, Hans, Taco, Luigi etc. so far!)

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Drazen Baic]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Drazen Baic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Drazen Baic wrote:
>  >  > Hi,
>  >  >
>  >  > Here is a small test file. Compiled with 'texexec --lua' the register
>  >  > has only the entry 'Software 1' but it should have one additional
>  >  > entry 'Apache see Software'. This works OK when compiled with
>  >  > 'texexec --xtx'
>  >  >
>  >  > \starttext
>  >  > \index{Software}Software
>  >  > \seeindex{Apache}{Software}Apache
>  >  >
>  >  > \placeindex
>  >  > \stoptext
>  >
>  >  see was not supported yet; i added it

I just did an update to ConTeXt 2008.04.15 21:21 and it works perfectly
for my example above. But if you use abbreviations the 'see ...' entry in
the registers shows the value between the brackets in the abbreviation
definition. Here is a small example:

\definesynonyms [abbreviation] [abbreviations][\infull]
\setupsynonyms [abbreviation]
\abbreviation [GCc] {\sc gcc} {GNU C Compiler}
\abbreviation [GNU] {\sc gnu} {{\sc gnu'}s Not Unix}

\starttext
\index{Software}Software
\seeindex{Apache}{Software}Apache
\index[GCC]{\GCc}\GCc\
\seeindex[GNU C Compiler]{\GNU\ C Compiler}{\GCc}\GNU\ C Compiler

\placeindex

\stoptext

I defined the GCc abbreviation with small c on purpose to demonstrate
that 'GCc' shows up in the register instead of {\sc gcc}.

I tried to look at the file core-reg.lua and thought that the error has
to be at

if vv[1] == 'e' then
-- format reference pagespec realpage
flush(template.page:format(class,",",vv[4],vv[5],vv[3]))
elseif vv[1] == 's' then
flush(template.see:format(class,",",vv[5],vv[3]))

but as I know nothing about Lua I gave up pretty soon.

Regards,
Drazen
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Re: [NTG-context] mplib

[Taco Hoekwater]

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> On 15 Apr 2008 at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hallo Taco,
> 
>>> (I have temporary appended 'dump;' to plain.mp)
>> After the above, you should have plain.mem in the local directory.
> 
> No.
> There is neither a 'plain.fmt' nor a 'plain.mem'!

Everything I read below says there should be a 'plain.mem'
in the folder where you ran theat file in.  If there
really really isn't, then my only advise to you is to buy
a less thieving operating system, as it seems this one steals
your files before you can even have an admiring look at them. :-)

Best wishes,
Taco




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Re: [NTG-context] using mag and "myway"

[Pau]

Hi Hans,

Dank u!

That was a quick answer.

Also, thanks a lot for your software, and for making it free. You have
made true a lot of little perversions of mine which usually cost me
sweat and blood with latex (no offense please, your work is great,
this is just intented to be a nice little joke)

It's amazing to see how I get the same result with context in one line
(or even one command) when I needed something like 20 lines or so with
latex!

You have gained a new ardent context fan.

Pau


2008/4/15, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Pau wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am worried because I would like to use mag-01 to write a document and
> > then upload it to the arxiv.org. Of course, I have a title for the
> document and
> > I would like to use it instead of having "My Way" written in the front
> page
> > (which nobody would understand)
> >
> > I see that
> >
> > -
> > %C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
> > %C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
> > %C details.
> > -
> >
> > I found this file on the net.  at
> >
> >
> www.tug.org/teTeX/tetex-texmfdist/doc/context/base/mreadme.pdf
> >
> > I see that it is (basically?) GPL.
> >
> > Ok... now, in mag-01 I read that:
> >
> > % This style is used for producing explanationary documents.
> > % Don't misuse it for other purposes, since it may confuse
> > % users. Don't change the title either, since it provides a
> > % way to categorize documents. Numbers are disabled in
> > % instances produced outside PRAGMA ADE.
> >
> > "Don't change the title either"
> >
> > ?!?!
> >
> > and
> >
> > % These are reserved for PRAGMA-ADE, don't use them yourself!
> >
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=Tricky]
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=Update]
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=HOWTO]
> >
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=This Way]  % preludes
> to a/the manual
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=A Better Way]  % dirty versus clean
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=No Way]% how users should not do
> > % it
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=Your Way]  % how users
> do it
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=My Way]% how users do it
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=Our Way]   % how we do
> things at
> > % pragma
> > % \setvariables[magazine][main=Their Way] % how to do
> latex things
> > % in context
> >
> >
> > What does this mean? Am I free to use the style but forced to write
> > "My Way" on the top of
> > it? Cannot I modify mag-01.tex, rename it to something which do not
> > lead to confusion (say "JourDiffTitle.tex") and -of course leaving the
> > comments there- use it as I want?
> >
> > Are the example tex files under the gpl or cannot one modify them?
> >
>
>  it's just that we don't want confusion .. a context user expects a
> myway/yourway to be a kind of manual
>
>  so, if you use one of the reserved titles, then it should preferaby be a
> kind of manual thing; often these end up on the garden or alongside modules
>
>  i have no problem if you create a document using another title
>
>  at the top of your document you can change the title using \setvariables so
> there is no real reason for a copy
>
>  Hans
>
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Hans Hagen]

Andrea Valle wrote:
>>> and yes, i
>>>  only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's;
> 
> Oh, Hans, this is a big issue...
> I thought that while writing ConTeXt you (the Speed King of TeX, indeed) 
> had thought about the motto following -exactly- "Speed King":
> "just a few roots, replanted".

well, often when writing tex code i feel more Like a Blind Man -)

anyhow, at some point i did realize that mkiv would have some Major 
Impact - two nice cd's -

(i wonder if users can deduce from the code what i was listening too, 
which is quite a broad spectrum ... for instance Canto Ostinato may lead 
to nice metapost graphics and i'm sure that my best code boils up while 
listening to Laughing Stock)

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Re: [NTG-context] using mag and "myway"

[Hans Hagen]

Pau wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am worried because I would like to use mag-01 to write a document and
> then upload it to the arxiv.org. Of course, I have a title for the document 
> and
> I would like to use it instead of having "My Way" written in the front page
> (which nobody would understand)
> 
> I see that
> 
> -
> %C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
> %C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
> %C details.
> -
> 
> I found this file on the net.  at
> 
> www.tug.org/teTeX/tetex-texmfdist/doc/context/base/mreadme.pdf
> 
> I see that it is (basically?) GPL.
> 
> Ok... now, in mag-01 I read that:
> 
> % This style is used for producing explanationary documents.
> % Don't misuse it for other purposes, since it may confuse
> % users. Don't change the title either, since it provides a
> % way to categorize documents. Numbers are disabled in
> % instances produced outside PRAGMA ADE.
> 
> "Don't change the title either"
> 
> ?!?!
> 
> and
> 
> % These are reserved for PRAGMA-ADE, don't use them yourself!
> 
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=Tricky]
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=Update]
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=HOWTO]
> 
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=This Way]  % preludes to a/the manual
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=A Better Way]  % dirty versus clean
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=No Way]% how users should not do
> % it
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=Your Way]  % how users do it
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=My Way]% how users do it
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=Our Way]   % how we do things at
> % pragma
> % \setvariables[magazine][main=Their Way] % how to do latex things
> % in context
> 
> 
> What does this mean? Am I free to use the style but forced to write
> "My Way" on the top of
> it? Cannot I modify mag-01.tex, rename it to something which do not
> lead to confusion (say "JourDiffTitle.tex") and -of course leaving the
> comments there- use it as I want?
> 
> Are the example tex files under the gpl or cannot one modify them?

it's just that we don't want confusion .. a context user expects a 
myway/yourway to be a kind of manual

so, if you use one of the reserved titles, then it should preferaby be a 
kind of manual thing; often these end up on the garden or alongside modules

i have no problem if you create a document using another title

at the top of your document you can change the title using \setvariables 
so there is no real reason for a copy

Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Andrea Valle]

and yes, i
 only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's;


Oh, Hans, this is a big issue...
I thought that while writing ConTeXt you (the Speed King of TeX,  
indeed) had thought about the motto following -exactly- "Speed King":

"just a few roots, replanted".

:)

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

[Olivier Guéry]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Olivier Guéry wrote:
>
>  > Looking to my tests it seems that if there's a space in the source
>  > file, the spacing is not apply — and I guess the nbsp neither.
>  > So, what would be great is we had something that say : no mater what
>  > is in front of this punctuations (space, nbsp or nothing) just make
>  > them nbsp with the right spacing !
>
>  it's no problem to add avariant that treats nospace, space, nbsp as
>  equel, and removes in that case the space/nbsp but if we support such a
>  thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space
>  related chars that needs treatment then

Great to hear.
Sorry but I don't understand well your last sentence : « there are
probably more space
related chars that needs treatment then ».
You want to know if there's other rules related to spaces in french typography ?
One of the most complicated for me is the « — » because the nbsp is a
« espace justifiante insécable » — don't know how to say this in
English — when we use it as parentheses, a regular nbps for dialog :
— Hello,
— Hello, how are you ?
and sometime… nothing. So I think we have to deal with this « by hand ».

Bus I'm sure about the rules for « : », « ; », « ? »,  « ! », "«" and
"»". And if I remember well, in Latex the space is 0.16667, not 0.25.

If you want, I can contact french people who know the rules, on a
typography mailing list.

Thank's for trying to solve the french strange behaviours.
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[NTG-context] using mag and "myway"

[Pau]

Hi,

I am worried because I would like to use mag-01 to write a document and
then upload it to the arxiv.org. Of course, I have a title for the document and
I would like to use it instead of having "My Way" written in the front page
(which nobody would understand)

I see that

-
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
-

I found this file on the net.  at

www.tug.org/teTeX/tetex-texmfdist/doc/context/base/mreadme.pdf

I see that it is (basically?) GPL.

Ok... now, in mag-01 I read that:

% This style is used for producing explanationary documents.
% Don't misuse it for other purposes, since it may confuse
% users. Don't change the title either, since it provides a
% way to categorize documents. Numbers are disabled in
% instances produced outside PRAGMA ADE.

"Don't change the title either"

?!?!

and

% These are reserved for PRAGMA-ADE, don't use them yourself!

% \setvariables[magazine][main=Tricky]
% \setvariables[magazine][main=Update]
% \setvariables[magazine][main=HOWTO]

% \setvariables[magazine][main=This Way]  % preludes to a/the manual
% \setvariables[magazine][main=A Better Way]  % dirty versus clean
% \setvariables[magazine][main=No Way]% how users should not do
% it
% \setvariables[magazine][main=Your Way]  % how users do it
% \setvariables[magazine][main=My Way]% how users do it
% \setvariables[magazine][main=Our Way]   % how we do things at
% pragma
% \setvariables[magazine][main=Their Way] % how to do latex things
% in context


What does this mean? Am I free to use the style but forced to write
"My Way" on the top of
it? Cannot I modify mag-01.tex, rename it to something which do not
lead to confusion (say "JourDiffTitle.tex") and -of course leaving the
comments there- use it as I want?

Are the example tex files under the gpl or cannot one modify them?

I am asking to avoid posterior problems.

Thanks,

Pau
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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Hans Hagen]

Peter Münster wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Peter Münster wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>
 Peter Münster wrote:
> \startlanguagespecifics[fr]
> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> \stoplanguagespecifics
 Still somewhat odd.
>> always messy this active :
> 
> The actual problem has nothing to do with \setcharacterspacing. You can
> replace this line by "\setupitemize[symbol=2]" or similar.
> 
> And why "active :"? I thought, that \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> uses some lua-magic instead of active characters?

in mkiv it does indeed; only mkii has language specifics


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[NTG-context] new zips

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded new zips. Beware, for some bugfixes a new luatex binary is needed

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Martin Schröder]

2008/4/15, Suno Ano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  So where do LaTeX and MkIV fit into this?

For LaTeX ask the LaTeX team. Maybe they have realized that luatex
exists, although I doubt it. :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

[Hans Hagen]

Olivier Guéry wrote:

> Looking to my tests it seems that if there's a space in the source
> file, the spacing is not apply — and I guess the nbsp neither.
> So, what would be great is we had something that say : no mater what
> is in front of this punctuations (space, nbsp or nothing) just make
> them nbsp with the right spacing !

it's no problem to add avariant that treats nospace, space, nbsp as 
equel, and removes in that case the space/nbsp but if we support such a 
thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space 
related chars that needs treatment then


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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Peter Münster wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > 
> >> Peter Münster wrote:
> >>> \startlanguagespecifics[fr]
> >>> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> >>> \stoplanguagespecifics
> >> Still somewhat odd.
> 
> always messy this active :

The actual problem has nothing to do with \setcharacterspacing. You can
replace this line by "\setupitemize[symbol=2]" or similar.

And why "active :"? I thought, that \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
uses some lua-magic instead of active characters?

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Re: [NTG-context] mplib

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

On 15 Apr 2008 at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hallo Taco,

> > (I have temporary appended 'dump;' to plain.mp)
> 
> After the above, you should have plain.mem in the local directory.

No.
There is neither a 'plain.fmt' nor a 'plain.mem'!

I have searched in the local directory, where it should be.
It is not in 'D:\context\tex\texmf-mswin\web2c' where format-files 
usally exist.
It is not in the cache.

I run this:
---
\enableregime[utf-8]
\starttext
% start low-level
\startlua
local function finder(name, mode, ftype)
 if mode=="w" then
 return name
 else
 return kpse.find_file(name,ftype)
 end
end
mp = mplib.new ( {
 hash_size = 10,
 main_memory = 200,
 param_size = 10,
 find_file = finder,
 ini_version = true
} )
if mp then
 res = mp:execute("plain")
 print(table.serialize(res))
 res = mp:finish()
 print(table.serialize(res))
end
\stoplua
% stop low-level
\stoptext
---

with the following output:

---
t={
 ["log"]="This is MetaPost, Version 1.003 (INIMP)  15 APR 2008 21:00 
(plain.mpPreloading the plain mem file, version 0.99",
 ["status"]=0,
 ["term"]="This is MetaPost, Version 1.003 (Cweb version 0.40) 
(INIMP)\
 (plain.mpPreloading the plain mem file, version 0.99",
}
t={
 ["log"]=" )\
Beginning to dump on file plain.mem\
 (mem=plain 8.4.15)\
at most 735 strings of total length 3629\
3326 memory locations dumped; current usage is 1021&2227\
501 symbolic tokens\
",
 ["status"]=0,
 ["term"]=" )\
Beginning to dump on file plain.mem\
 (mem=plain 8.4.15)\
at most 735 strings of total length 3629\
3326 memory locations dumped; current usage is 1021&2227\
501 symbolic tokens\
Transcript written on plain.log.\
",
}
---

Can you see, what I am missing?

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Drazen Baic]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Drazen Baic wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Here is a small test file. Compiled with 'texexec --lua' the register
>  > has only the entry 'Software 1' but it should have one additional
>  > entry 'Apache see Software'. This works OK when compiled with
>  > 'texexec --xtx'
>  >
>  > \starttext
>  > \index{Software}Software
>  > \seeindex{Apache}{Software}Apache
>  >
>  > \placeindex
>  > \stoptext
>
>  see was not supported yet; i added it

Thank you very much!

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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Hans Hagen]

Peter Münster wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>> Peter Münster wrote:
>>> \startlanguagespecifics[fr]
>>> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>>> \stoplanguagespecifics
>> Still somewhat odd.

always messy this active :

all places where : can occur then need to be enclosed in cleanup code

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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Peter Münster wrote:


On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Peter Münster wrote:


\startlanguagespecifics[fr]
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\stoplanguagespecifics


Still somewhat odd.


Indeed. And I think for several reasons:
- I believed, that texexec --module does not execute commands without a
 "%D" at the beginning of the line
- usually, space in the beginning of the line is ignored
- I've found another similar case:

%D \module[file=t-test]
\appendtoks \abc \to \everystarttext

fails with:


This is realted to the bug with \filename (see my post yesterday). As a 
temporary solution, add this to the top of your module (at least works in 
this case, haven't tested with the french module).


%M \unexpanded\def\filename#1{{\\tttf\hyphenatedurl{#1}}}

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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Peter Münster wrote:
> > 
> > \startlanguagespecifics[fr]
> > \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> > \stoplanguagespecifics
> 
> Still somewhat odd.

Indeed. And I think for several reasons:
- I believed, that texexec --module does not execute commands without a
  "%D" at the beginning of the line
- usually, space in the beginning of the line is ignored
- I've found another similar case:

%D \module[file=t-test]
\appendtoks \abc \to \everystarttext

fails with:

) (./t-test.tex
! You can't use `\hskip' after \the.
\obeyedspace ->\hskip 
  \zeropoint \hbox to \onepoint {}\hskip \zeropoint 
 
 \abc  
\dodoappendtoks ...EA \@@toks \the \@@scratchtoks 
  }
l.2 \appendtoks \abc \to 
 \everystarttext


No problem without the space after "\to".

All problems in this thread are unrelated to MKII or MKIV.

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Suno Ano]

 >| On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:18:43 +0200,
 >| Hans Hagen
 >| who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >| (whose comments are cited below with " Hans> "),
 >| had this to say in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >| in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
 >| concerning the subject of Re: Architecture Sketch
 >| (see <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for more 
 >details)

 Hans> Just see mkiv as a next version
Thanks, that answers my question.

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Hans Hagen]

Olivier Guéry wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  in order to prevent users asking "hey, there will be latex 3, when will
>>  >  there be acontext 3" i skipped the 3 and went for the 4 ...
>>  >
>>  >  ... the mark part was inspired by deep purple using mk as tag for each
>>  >  new combination (which got my attention when i found out that steve
>>  >  morse was part of mk7 onwards, and the first code i wrote was with steve
>>  >  morse cd's in loop mode ...
>>  >
>>  >  ... so now everyone knows why context mkiv is called mkiv; and yes, i
>>  >  only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's; and i'm not that no sure if there
>>  >  will be a context mkvii -)
>>  >
>>  to wikify .
> 
> Deep Purple… this Deep Purple : http://youtube.com/watch?v=8sEYIouqEdU ;o) ?
> To wikify of course. Thank's to DP for being with you all this hours
> of great code.

haha, i didn't know that one -)


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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[luigi scarso]

>
>  ,[ Question ]
>  | What will happen to folks like me who just need/want to write great
>  | documents using ConTeXt?
>  `
it depends:
i get fat, for example.

>   - yes, I am with Linux (DebianGNU/Linux)
hey , like me!
>   - GNU Emacs
also me
>   - my adorable cat :-)
two little daughter (and wife, of course)
>   - a whole pile of ConTeXt manuals to read
me again !

75% !



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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Olivier Guéry]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  in order to prevent users asking "hey, there will be latex 3, when will
>  >  there be acontext 3" i skipped the 3 and went for the 4 ...
>  >
>  >  ... the mark part was inspired by deep purple using mk as tag for each
>  >  new combination (which got my attention when i found out that steve
>  >  morse was part of mk7 onwards, and the first code i wrote was with steve
>  >  morse cd's in loop mode ...
>  >
>  >  ... so now everyone knows why context mkiv is called mkiv; and yes, i
>  >  only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's; and i'm not that no sure if there
>  >  will be a context mkvii -)
>  >
>  to wikify .

Deep Purple… this Deep Purple : http://youtube.com/watch?v=8sEYIouqEdU ;o) ?
To wikify of course. Thank's to DP for being with you all this hours
of great code.

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[luigi scarso]

>  in order to prevent users asking "hey, there will be latex 3, when will
>  there be acontext 3" i skipped the 3 and went for the 4 ...
>
>  ... the mark part was inspired by deep purple using mk as tag for each
>  new combination (which got my attention when i found out that steve
>  morse was part of mk7 onwards, and the first code i wrote was with steve
>  morse cd's in loop mode ...
>
>  ... so now everyone knows why context mkiv is called mkiv; and yes, i
>  only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's; and i'm not that no sure if there
>  will be a context mkvii -)
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Hans Hagen]

Suno Ano wrote:
>  >| On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:38:20 +0200,
>  >| luigi scarso
>  >| who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >| (whose comments are cited below with " luigi> "),
>  >| had this to say in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >| in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
>  >| concerning the subject of Re: Architecture Sketch
>  >| (see <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for more details)
> 
>  >> hi folks, How do they fit together? Is there some sort of
>  >> architecure chart somewhere so newbies can get a hold within a few
>  >> seconds? Luatex <==> tex context <==> latex
>  luigi> ok ?
> nope, I do not get it especially for the latex part. What about this:
> 
> 
> +--+
> | ConTeXt, used for|
> | creating the source  |
> | files to luatex  |
> +--+
>  ^
>  |
>  |
>  |
>  |
>  |
> +--+
> | luatex, a bunch of   |
> | libraries and whatnot|
> | which is going to replace|
> | pdfTeX   |
> |  |
> +--+
> 
> So where do LaTeX and MkIV fit into this? 

pdftex, xetex, luatex: engines

context mkii: pdftex/xetex
context mkiv: luatex

> Which tells me exactly nothing :-) Actually to rephrase what I meant and
> to what it boils down:

no need to discard old knowledge ... there will be new mkiv-only 
features, some hacks will go away

> ,[ Question ]
> | What will happen to folks like me who just need/want to write great
> | documents using ConTeXt?
> `
> 
> If someone could shed some light onto this, I would be very thankful ...

just see mkiv as a next version; the reason for calling it mkiv is that 
context never had fundamental versions, like latex (original, 2e, 3)

in order to prevent users asking "hey, there will be latex 3, when will 
there be acontext 3" i skipped the 3 and went for the 4 ...

... the mark part was inspired by deep purple using mk as tag for each 
new combination (which got my attention when i found out that steve 
morse was part of mk7 onwards, and the first code i wrote was with steve 
morse cd's in loop mode ...

... so now everyone knows why context mkiv is called mkiv; and yes, i 
only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's; and i'm not that no sure if there 
will be a context mkvii -)

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Suno Ano]

 >| On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:09:09 +0200,
 >| Jean Magnan de Bornier
 >| who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >| (whose comments are cited below with " Jean> "),
 >| had this to say in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >| in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
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 >| (see <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for more details)

 Jean> You can still be a Muse boy with context:
 Jean> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_and_emacs-muse

Of course I will remain a Muse fanboy as well. Muse for my website,
texinfo for all FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) manuals etc. and
ConTeXt for a book and tech papers I am going to write ...

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Taco Hoekwater]

Drazen Baic wrote:
>>
>>  Mojca helped debugging this, and there is a patch in the luatex
>>  repository that should fix it. As Hans said already, you can expect
>>  a new luatex binary and context release later this week.
>>
> 
> You are really unbelievable fast in fixing bugs. Thank you very much!

This is not always the case, to be honest. Mostly, you are lucky that
luatex bugs are a top priority right now. Some of my bib module
bugs are have been open for years, I am ashamed to admit.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Hans Hagen]

Drazen Baic wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Here is a small test file. Compiled with 'texexec --lua' the register
> has only the entry 'Software 1' but it should have one additional
> entry 'Apache see Software'. This works OK when compiled with
> 'texexec --xtx'
> 
> \starttext
> \index{Software}Software
> \seeindex{Apache}{Software}Apache
> 
> \placeindex
> \stoptext

see was not supported yet; i added it

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Suno Ano]

 >| On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:38:20 +0200,
 >| luigi scarso
 >| who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >| (whose comments are cited below with " luigi> "),
 >| had this to say in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >| in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
 >| concerning the subject of Re: Architecture Sketch
 >| (see <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for more details)

 >> hi folks, How do they fit together? Is there some sort of
 >> architecure chart somewhere so newbies can get a hold within a few
 >> seconds? Luatex <==> tex context <==> latex
 luigi> ok ?
nope, I do not get it especially for the latex part. What about this:


  +--+
  | ConTeXt, used for|
  | creating the source  |
  | files to luatex  |
  +--+
   ^
   |
   |
   |
   |
   |
  +--+
  | luatex, a bunch of   |
  | libraries and whatnot|
  | which is going to replace|
  | pdfTeX   |
  |  |
  +--+

So where do LaTeX and MkIV fit into this? 


 >> Secondly, now that it seems MkIV is the new star will all my ConTeXt
 >> knowledge be obsolete once luatex is going to be used? (Maybe I am
 >> just making a fool out of myself even asking this but then I am
 >> totally new to this whole subject so ...)
 luigi> A bit here and there, but not all

Which tells me exactly nothing :-) Actually to rephrase what I meant and
to what it boils down:

,[ Question ]
| What will happen to folks like me who just need/want to write great
| documents using ConTeXt?
`

If someone could shed some light onto this, I would be very thankful ...

For the rest
 - I took a look at the wiki, ml etc. but those could not answer my
   question -- usually I try another approach after 2 hours searching
   around 
 - yes, I am with Linux (DebianGNU/Linux)
 - GNU Emacs
 - my adorable cat :-)
 - a whole pile of ConTeXt manuals to read

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Drazen Baic]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>  Drazen Baic wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Of course, I should have provided one in my first mail. Trying to create
>  > a minimal test file I also found out that the crash only happens when
>  > \setupinteraction [state=start] is set. Here is the file.
>  >
>  > \setupinteraction [state=start]
>  > \useURL[apache][http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi]
>  >
>  > \starttext
>  > \startitemize
>  >  \item Download Apache at \from[apache]
>  > \stopitemize
>  >
>  > \stoptext
>
>  Mojca helped debugging this, and there is a patch in the luatex
>  repository that should fix it. As Hans said already, you can expect
>  a new luatex binary and context release later this week.
>

You are really unbelievable fast in fixing bugs. Thank you very much!
And I would like to thank all the ConTeXt and LuaTeX developers.
This software is amazing!

Regards,
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[NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Michael Green]

[A] My experience is similar to Hans van der Meer's (quoted below).

luatools --generate does what I think it's supposed to.

luatools luat-env.lua returns a blank line.

[B] I followed Thomas Schmitz's instructions and used the  
source .luatex method, for what it's worth.

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20071002.175335.21873a03.en.html

.luatex contains:

export TEXMFCACHE="/tmp"
export TEXMFCNF="/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c"
export TEXMF="{/Users/michaelgreen/.texlive2007/texmf-config,/Users/ 
michaelgreen/.texlive2007/texmf-var,/Users/michaelgreen/Library/ 
texmf,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config,!!/usr/local/texlive/2007/ 
texmf-var,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf,/usr/local/texlive/2007/../ 
texmf-local,!!/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist}"
export LUAINPUTS="{/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base,/ 
usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua,/usr/local/ 
texlive/texmf-local/scripts/context/lua}"

[C] Is there a chance that this is a permissions issue? I had to make  
luatools.lua executable by hand.

None of the other files in that directory are executable, where  
'that' directory is:

  /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/scripts/context/lua

mjg

> From: Hans van der Meer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats
>
> Same thing here. "luatools luat-env.lua" gives an empty line. After
> "luatools --generate" again the same.
> And I have TEXMFCNF and TEXMF defined in .bashrc
> TEXMFCNF="/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c"
> TEXMF="{/Users/hans/TeX/texmf-private,/usr/local/texlive/texmf-
> context,/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf,/
> usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-
> dist,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-doc,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-
> var}"
>
> So there must be something else amiis.
>
> Hans van der Meer


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Re: [NTG-context] bug in mplib?

[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:
>>  we will post a new luatex binary and mkiv zip later
> also with searching path fixed ?

sure,   


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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[John Devereux]

Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Devereux wrote:
>> "Idris Samawi Hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:38:20 -0600, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 And use linux.
>>> Well Hans, the lead developer uses windows ;-) and from the messages I see  
>>> on this list the linux people tend to run into more installation/format  
>>> problems :-D
>> 
>> And I suspect these two facts are related.. :)
>
> well, luatex/mkiv runs happily on our linux servers; my development 
> machine runs vista, and taco's runs linux and we happily generatet 
> multiple new formats per day ...

I am only teasing.

I love context, and have been using it for years now on linux. But I
only get to use it intermittently, and only rarely get involved with
the installation itself...

> the main ingredients for a working set 
> up are: TEXMF, TEXMFCNF and sometimes TEXMFCACHE (keep in mind that 
> traditional tex distribiutions can have hard coded paths and assumptions)

...so I forget the mechanics of how tex is configured and how it finds
everything.

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 15 avril à 15:24:19 Suno Ano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit notamment:

| hi folks,
| I am new to ConTeXt. I had been a TeXinfo, Muse ...

Hi,

You can still be a Muse boy with context:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_and_emacs-muse

(I have to edit a bit this page but it is quite enough for a muse user to
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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Hans Hagen]

John Devereux wrote:
> "Idris Samawi Hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:38:20 -0600, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And use linux.
>> Well Hans, the lead developer uses windows ;-) and from the messages I see  
>> on this list the linux people tend to run into more installation/format  
>> problems :-D
> 
> And I suspect these two facts are related.. :)

well, luatex/mkiv runs happily on our linux servers; my development 
machine runs vista, and taco's runs linux and we happily generatet 
multiple new formats per day ... the main ingredients for a working set 
up are: TEXMF, TEXMFCNF and sometimes TEXMFCACHE (keep in mind that 
traditional tex distribiutions can have hard coded paths and assumptions)

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[luigi scarso]

>  And I suspect these two facts are related.. :)
no, taco is on linux (well, i hope..)
>
>  Nevertheless, I have used both and find the linux environment better
>  in general. Everything is "there" and my distribution (debian) takes
>  care of things. Sometimes I am impatient and want to "experiment" with
>  the latest and greatest, bypassing the distributions packaging
>  system. Then I get into trouble.
indeed , not me.
Always follow carefully  instructions.


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Re: [NTG-context] Adding custom key/value pairs

[Aditya Mahajan]

Hi Wolfgang,

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>>> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 Why not, I have nothing against a few predefined title pages layouts.
>>>
>>> Somewhat related: it would be nice if there was some common code for
>>> titles (books as well as articles).
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Anyway, the maps module contains all the code to do everything. And
>>> the same is true for the TUG module. And for quite a few others I have
>>> laying around. Lots of duplicate code all over, so a common framework
>>> would be great. I've been meaning to write one for a long time, but
>>> somehow I never quite get around to actually doing it.
>>>
>>> Just saying this to let you know that I would really welcome a module
>>> with commands like \setuptitle, \definetitle, and \placetitle.
>>
>> I agree with that. It will be really nice to have a module that does a few
>> "simple" titles (alternate=(a|b|c), etc.) For one of my personal modules,
>> I was following something along the lines of the maps module. But I find
>> Wolfgang's solution on the wiki to be more ConTeXtish than what all other
>> modules use.
>
> Hi Aditya,
>
> could you use a few lines what do you expect from a placetitle/placetitlepage
> command or a titlepage environment.

Some of the things that I use \placetitle for:

* Writing academic papers. Currenly, I have a macro that I use like this:

\article
[title ={...},
 author={...},
publication={...},% This just goes to pdf subtitle
date={...},
bottom={...}, %text placed at page bottom,
  %usually current revision number
thanks={...}, %placed on the footer of the first page
]

\startabstract
...
\stopabstract

\startkeywords

\stopkeywords

The abstract environment places a head ("Abstract") followed by its 
content. The formatting depends on whether it is a journal article, or a 
conference article.

keyword also places a head followed by its content.

Currently, what I have is that \article places all its contents, and so do 
abstract and keyword. So, I do not have to store anything.

* TUGBoat articles: This uses a style file originally by Hans, which I 
have modified considerably, but still uses the same interface.

This uses

\setvariables
[tugboat]
[title={...},
 author={...},
 address={...},
 email={...},
 year={...},
 volume={..},
 number={...},
 page={...}]

The title and the author go to the document title. The address and email 
go at the end of the article. The year, volume, number, and page go to the 
header and footer of the article.

The rest of the article is somethng like

\starttext
\startArticle

\startAbstract

\stopAbstract
...

\stopArticle
\stoptext

This structure is the reason I think something like \setuptitle (or 
\setupdocumenttitle) is needed.

* Practex journal, which uses

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules/Pracjourn

* My Ways which use

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules/MyWay

* and finally Maps which use

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules/Maps



Notice that almost all of them so similar things, but in slightly 
different manner. What I wish for is a common interface, and I really like 
your idea of \setuptitle. In fact, I think that something like that should 
be part of the core.

The module does not need to take care of all the formatting requirements: 
just provide the interface. For a particular publications, the module for 
that publication can modify the \placetitle command to do what they want. 
With this, the user documentation can just say that use

\setuptitle[title=...,author=..., date=] %and maybe setups={...}

So, we will have a consistent user inteferface for all documents.

> What should we do with the abstract, did it depend on the document title ...

In general, the formatting of the abstract will depend on the kind of the 
document. Just need something like

\definetitlesubstructure% or something more appropriate
   [abstract]
   [headtext={Abstract},
headstyle=bold,
headcolor=blue,
headalign=middle,
inbetween=\blank,%between the head and the body
style=small, %for the contents
color=black, %for the contents
   ]

This should define a command that captures its contents, and provides a 
command \placetitlesubstructure[abstract].

Similarly, we can define

\definetitlesubstructure
   [keywords]
   []

Then, \placetitlesubstructure[abstract] and 
\placetitlesubstracutre[keywords] and go in the after={...} key of 
\setuptitle.

As I said before, the module just needs to collect the information, and 
provide one or two simple styles. Once the information is collected, it is 
easy to use other keys (e.g. thanks key in my first case) and let the user 
define a setups that take of how to handle those keys.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[John Devereux]

"Idris Samawi Hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:38:20 -0600, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>> And use linux.
>
> Well Hans, the lead developer uses windows ;-) and from the messages I see  
> on this list the linux people tend to run into more installation/format  
> problems :-D

And I suspect these two facts are related.. :)

Nevertheless, I have used both and find the linux environment better
in general. Everything is "there" and my distribution (debian) takes
care of things. Sometimes I am impatient and want to "experiment" with
the latest and greatest, bypassing the distributions packaging
system. Then I get into trouble.

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:38:20 -0600, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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> And use linux.

Well Hans, the lead developer uses windows ;-) and from the messages I see  
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Mojca Miklavec]

>  I am not happy to see something so simple now being broken!!

This is why ConTeXt MK IV is still called experimental, and you should
be aware of that when using it.

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Hans Hagen]

Hans van der Meer wrote:
> On 15 apr 2008, at 14:52, John Devereux wrote:
> 
>> 4) Now you can try some simple document like (thanks to Arthur  
>> Reutenauer)
>>  \starttext
> . some statements deleted 
>>  \startlua
>>  a = 1.5
>>  b = 1.8
>>  c = a*b
>>  tex.print(c)
>>  \stoplua
>>  \stoptext
>>  and run it with
>>  texexec --lua filename.tex
> 
> Not true. This code used to work, it DID WORK. But now it gives an  
> error:
> system : cont-sys loaded
> (/Users/hans/TeX/texmf-private/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.182 \forceMPTEXgraphictrue
> 
> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.11 00:07 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.14  int: english/ 
> english
> 
> I am not happy to see something so simple now being broken!!

the upcoming release will

\let\forceMPTEXgraphictrue\relax

actually nothin gis really broken, it's just that supp-mps is no longer 
used in mkiv and so we have to provide placeholders (the less the better)

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Re: [NTG-context] Module documentation

[luigi scarso]

> On Luigi Scarso's page
> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/modules.pdf) he suggests
> the following:
>
> texexec --module --pdf core-tab.tex
sooner I will move this stuffs to supelec


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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Suno Ano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi folks,
>  How do they fit together? Is there some sort of architecure chart
>  somewhere so newbies can get a hold within a few seconds?
luatex <==> tex
context <==> latex
ok ?
>
>  Secondly, now that it seems MkIV is the new star will all my ConTeXt
>  knowledge be obsolete once luatex is going to be used? (Maybe I am just
>  making a fool out of myself even asking this but then I am totally new
>  to this whole subject so ...)
a bit here and there, but not all
>
>  What I want is to write documents (papers, manual, theses, etc.) with
>  ConTeXt.
ok, this is the right mailling list
>So, is the time I am going to invest into learning and toying
>  around with ConTeXt a secure investment of my time or not i.e. ConTeXt
>  will be phased out or something (again, asking this might actually make
>  me look goofy :-)
see wiki ,
mailling list,
pragma site,
source code.
Always make short examples of your problem .
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>
>  Not true. This code used to work, it DID WORK. But now it gives an
>  error:
>  system : cont-sys loaded
>  (/Users/hans/TeX/texmf-private/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
>  ! Undefined control sequence.
>  l.182 \forceMPTEXgraphictrue
>
>  ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.11 00:07 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.14  int: english/
>  english
>
>  I am not happy to see something so simple now being broken!!

That probably happens with just any file, right? Try to comment out
\forceMPTEXgraphictrue from
/Users/hans/TeX/texmf-private/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex

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[NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

[Suno Ano]

hi folks,
I am new to ConTeXt. I had been a TeXinfo, Muse and LaTeX boy so far.
Now that I am into ConTeXt for the 2nd day it came to my attention that
there is for eample MkIV, luatex etc.

How do they fit together? Is there some sort of architecure chart
somewhere so newbies can get a hold within a few seconds?

Secondly, now that it seems MkIV is the new star will all my ConTeXt
knowledge be obsolete once luatex is going to be used? (Maybe I am just
making a fool out of myself even asking this but then I am totally new
to this whole subject so ...)

What I want is to write documents (papers, manual, theses, etc.) with
ConTeXt. So, is the time I am going to invest into learning and toying
around with ConTeXt a secure investment of my time or not i.e. ConTeXt
will be phased out or something (again, asking this might actually make
me look goofy :-)

tia for enlightening me!

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Hans van der Meer]

On 15 apr 2008, at 14:52, John Devereux wrote:

> 4) Now you can try some simple document like (thanks to Arthur  
> Reutenauer)
>   \starttext
 some statements deleted 
>
>   \startlua
>   a = 1.5
>   b = 1.8
>   c = a*b
>   tex.print(c)
>   \stoplua
>   \stoptext
>  and run it with
>   texexec --lua filename.tex

Not true. This code used to work, it DID WORK. But now it gives an  
error:
system : cont-sys loaded
(/Users/hans/TeX/texmf-private/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
! Undefined control sequence.
l.182 \forceMPTEXgraphictrue

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.11 00:07 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.14  int: english/ 
english

I am not happy to see something so simple now being broken!!

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Drazen Baic wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Of course, I should have provided one in my first mail. Trying to create
> a minimal test file I also found out that the crash only happens when
> \setupinteraction [state=start] is set. Here is the file.
> 
> \setupinteraction [state=start]
> \useURL[apache][http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi]
> 
> \starttext
> \startitemize
>  \item Download Apache at \from[apache]
> \stopitemize
> 
> \stoptext

Mojca helped debugging this, and there is a patch in the luatex
repository that should fix it. As Hans said already, you can expect
a new luatex binary and context release later this week.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Mojca Miklavec]

>  However I have been using context for years, and may well have messed
>  something up! It seems to work OK with my "normal" documents. Except I
>  notice \usemodule[gnuplot] does not work.

What exactly goes wrong?

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Re: [NTG-context] bug in mplib?

[luigi scarso]

>
>  we will post a new luatex binary and mkiv zip later
also with searching path fixed ?

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Re: [NTG-context] bug in mplib?

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just noticed that with the new incarnation of metapost, arrows  
> behave somewhat erratically. Take this minmal example:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startuseMPgraphic{arrowtest}
> z1=(0,0) ;
> z2=(3cm,0) ;
> ahlength := 15pt ;
> pickup pencircle scaled 5pt ;
> drawarrow z1--z2 ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
> 
> \useMPgraphic{arrowtest}

both reported bugs (arrow and pensquare) are solved (took taco and me 
the whole morning)

we will post a new luatex binary and mkiv zip later

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tried to use the cwTeX fonts with MkIV and I can use them but ConTeXt is 
> > not
> > able to save the font data and read the font for every run, this did
> > work but it takes
> > quiet some time to do this.
> >
> > A attached the result from the terminal and the log file.
> >
> > The font are available from the following page:
> > http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/cwttf/baseline/
> >
> > My example document is:
> >
> > % engine=luatex
> >
> > \definefont[cwheib][file:cwheib*default at 12pt]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \cwheib cwTeXHeiBold
> > \stoptext
>
> can you check if there's an tma file in the cache? and if so, if you can
> run texluac -s blabla.tma on it?

I will try this today evening.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to use the cwTeX fonts with MkIV and I can use them but ConTeXt is not
> able to save the font data and read the font for every run, this did
> work but it takes
> quiet some time to do this.
> 
> A attached the result from the terminal and the log file.
> 
> The font are available from the following page:
> http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/cwttf/baseline/
> 
> My example document is:
> 
> % engine=luatex
> 
> \definefont[cwheib][file:cwheib*default at 12pt]
> 
> \starttext
> \cwheib cwTeXHeiBold
> \stoptext

can you check if there's an tma file in the cache? and if so, if you can 
run texluac -s blabla.tma on it?

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[NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hi,

I tried to use the cwTeX fonts with MkIV and I can use them but ConTeXt is not
able to save the font data and read the font for every run, this did
work but it takes
quiet some time to do this.

A attached the result from the terminal and the log file.

The font are available from the following page:
http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/cwttf/baseline/

My example document is:

% engine=luatex

\definefont[cwheib][file:cwheib*default at 12pt]

\starttext
\cwheib cwTeXHeiBold
\stoptext

Wolfgang


cwheib.log
Description: Binary data
E:\>texexec cwheib.tex
TeXExec | processing document 'cwheib.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file cwheib.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 942
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en

LuaTools | running command: luatex --fmt="C:/DOKUME~1/Wolfgang/LOKALE~1/Temp/lua
tex-cache/context/aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e/formats/cont-en" --lua="C:/DO
KUME~1/Wolfgang/LOKALE~1/Temp/luatex-cache/context/aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446
e1e/formats/cont-en.luc" "cwheib.tex" ""(./cwheib.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.11 00:07 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.14  int: english/english

language   : language en is active
report >> utilityfile: not present
system : cont-new loaded
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
lua: used config path - C:/w32tex/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lua: used cache path - C:/DOKUME\CCC:5:126 1/Wolfgang/LOKALE\CCC:5:1
26 1/Temp/luatex-cache/context/aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e
) (c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system : cont-old loaded
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (c:/w32tex/share/texm
f-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/
base/type-siz.tex) (c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex))
bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
specials   : tex loaded
system : cwheib.top loaded
(./cwheib.top
specials   : loading definition file tpd
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials   : loading definition file fdf
(c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex (c:/w32tex/share/texm
f-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv))
specials   : fdf loaded
)
specials   : fdf loaded
)
systems: begin file cwheib at line 5
report >> load otf: loading: ./cwheib.ttf
report >> load otf: enhance: before
report >> load otf: enhance: enrich
report >> load otf: enhance: registering tlig feature
report >> load otf: enhance: registering trep feature
report >> load otf: enhance: flatten
report >> load otf: flattening 'specifications' tables
report >> load otf: flattening 'anchor' tables
report >> load otf: flattening 'gsub' tables
report >> load otf: enhance: analyze
report >> load otf: enhance: after
report >> load otf: enhance: patch
report >> load otf: enhance: strip
report >> load otf: enhance: pack
report >> load otf: file size: 5493164
report >> load otf: saving: in cachetexluac: ...atex-cache/context/aa3708bbacfa0
39a6085d2b5c7446e1e/fonts/otf/cwheib.tma:169863: unfinished string near '"={'
luac: ...atex-cache/context/aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e/fonts/otf/cwheib.tm
a:169863: unfinished string near '"={'

fonts  : resetting map file list
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}
fonts  : using map file: original-base
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
fonts  : using map file: lm-math
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}
fonts  : using map file: lm-rm
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fonts  : using map file: original-ams-base
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
fonts  : using map file: original-ams-euler
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
fonts  : using map file: original-public-lm
{c:/w32tex/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map} [1
.1]
systems: end file cwheib at line 7
 )<./cwheib.ttf>
mkiv lua stats : used config path  - C:/w32tex/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.c
nf
mkiv lua stats : used cache path   - C:/DOKUME~1/Wolfgang/LOKALE~1/Temp/
luatex-cache/context/aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e
mkiv lua stats : modules/dumps/instances   - 84/20/1
mkiv lua stats : input load time   - 0.060 seconds
mkiv lua stats : fonts load time   - 20.750 seconds
mkiv lua stats : xml load time 

Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[John Devereux]

"Mojca Miklavec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, John Devereux wrote:
>>
>> "Mojca Miklavec" writes:
>>
>>  >>  Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian... Or perhaps 
>> I
>>  >>  messed up my configuration in the past.
>>  >>
>>  >>   luatools --ini --compile cont-en
>>  >>
>>  >>  works now.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I will start playing with it.
>>  >>
>>  >>  A quick try of the example snippet did not work (see dump at end of
>>  >>  message) but I will look into it more and try Mojcas advice re
>>  >>  ctxtools --update.
>>  >
>>  > ctxtools --update won't help you as you have some missing fonts 
>> (msam7.tfm).
>>  > http://packages.debian.org/etch/all/texlive-base/filelist claims that
>>  > the file should be present in texlive-base in Debian, so it's a bit
>>  > confusing.
>>  >
>>  > Mojca
>>
>>  Hi Mojca,
>>
>>  There is a file here:
>>
>>   /usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/tfm/public/ams/msam7.tfm
>>
>>  But I don't know what else is needed.
>
> I would say that the installation might be slightly broken, even if
> only a few variables are missing. How exactly did you install LuaTeX
> and latest ConTeXt?

Mojca,

I followed the instructions here, where applicable for debian sid:



Then the instruction in the README.MarkIV that appeared in the pckage
documentation directory (appended to end of post).

However I have been using context for years, and may well have messed
something up! It seems to work OK with my "normal" documents. Except I
notice \usemodule[gnuplot] does not work.

John

>>  Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian...
>
> This should not happen, but once you answer the question about how you
> have installed it, it might become clearer.
>
> Some time ago there was some problem on debian since Hans's lua
> scripts were unable to parse TEXMFCNF (texmf.cnf) files properly, but
> this might have been resolved in the meantime.



README.luatex
=

Mark IV is the name of the LuaTeX-aware part of ConTeXt; that is, when you
use ConTeXt over the LuaTeX engine instead of PDFTeX or XeTeX. You run it
with texexec --lua.

Currently the integration of Mark IV into Debian is not completely done,
especially because the details are currently worked out (see the dev-context
mailing list).

If you want to start using Mark IV the following the following few points
should get you started:

1) Right versions:
luatex >= 0.20.2
context >= 2007.12.20

2) environment variables and luatex-cache
   Mark IV ships its own implementation of file searching and doesn't
   use the ls-R databases, but luatex-cache. You have to tell luatools
   where to find texmf.cnf, and then generate the cache:
export TEXMFCNF=/usr/share/texmf/web2c
luatools --generate --verbose
   This will generate the luatex-cache in $HOME. If you want to put it
   somewhere else set (and export) the TEXMFCACHE variable (like
   export TEXMFCACHE=/tmp)

3) Generate a Mark IV format
   This is not integrated into the usual format building process, and 
   probably will need some time to be worked out completely as the 
   current fmtutil cannot cope with Mark IV formats. Call
luatools --ini --compile cont-en

4) Now you can try some simple document like (thanks to Arthur Reutenauer)
\starttext

\ctxlua{a = 1.5 ; b = 1.8 ; c = a*b ; tex.print(c) ;}
or the equivalent:
\startlua
a = 1.5
b = 1.8
c = a*b
tex.print(c)
\stoplua

You can also do more elaborate calculations with the lua math library:
\ctxlua{tex.print("$\string\\sqrt{2} = " .. math.sqrt(2) .. "$")}

\stoptext
  and run it with
texexec --lua filename.tex


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Re: [NTG-context] LinuxLibertine Typescript (was : fonts and luatex)

[Olivier Guéry]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>  >> /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:226: attempt to call
>  >> field '?' (a nil value)
>
>
> > I tested the font setups yesterday on my own system I got the same error
>  > message but I found also the reason for this.
>
>  ok, such an error should not happen
>
>
>  > The Libertine fonts contains pints in the font names and this did currently
>  > not work with MkIV, a temporary solution is to rename the fonts and remove
>  > the version number from the fonts names. I know this is not perfect and 
> Hans
>  > is able to fiy this but it should do it for the moment.
>  >
>  > I tested also to use the name of the fonts instead of the file name and 
> this
>  > did also work (after you removed the version number).
>
>
>  [file:bla 1.2.3]
>
>  may be problematic anyway (the space) so best try:
>
>  [file:bla1.2.3]
>
>  just remove spaces in names, which is what happens behind the screens too
>

It seems to work. thank's a lot.
Now, let's play with the otf features…

Olivier.



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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, John Devereux wrote:
>
> "Mojca Miklavec" writes:
>
>  >>  Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian... Or perhaps I
>  >>  messed up my configuration in the past.
>  >>
>  >>   luatools --ini --compile cont-en
>  >>
>  >>  works now.
>  >>
>  >>  I will start playing with it.
>  >>
>  >>  A quick try of the example snippet did not work (see dump at end of
>  >>  message) but I will look into it more and try Mojcas advice re
>  >>  ctxtools --update.
>  >
>  > ctxtools --update won't help you as you have some missing fonts 
> (msam7.tfm).
>  > http://packages.debian.org/etch/all/texlive-base/filelist claims that
>  > the file should be present in texlive-base in Debian, so it's a bit
>  > confusing.
>  >
>  > Mojca
>
>  Hi Mojca,
>
>  There is a file here:
>
>   /usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/tfm/public/ams/msam7.tfm
>
>  But I don't know what else is needed.

I would say that the installation might be slightly broken, even if
only a few variables are missing. How exactly did you install LuaTeX
and latest ConTeXt?

>  Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian...

This should not happen, but once you answer the question about how you
have installed it, it might become clearer.

Some time ago there was some problem on debian since Hans's lua
scripts were unable to parse TEXMFCNF (texmf.cnf) files properly, but
this might have been resolved in the meantime.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Taco Hoekwater]

Peter Münster wrote:
> 
> \startlanguagespecifics[fr]
> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> \stoplanguagespecifics

Still somewhat odd.
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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Apr 15 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Peter Münster wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 1.) Compilation stop like this:
> > 
> > [1.1] [2.1] . (./t-french.tex
> > language   : language specific options [default-fr] introduce a 4.0pt  
> > skip
> > \wait=
> 
> Somewhat unexpectedly, the space after [frenchpunctuation] is not 
> ignored (note: I am not saying it should). Can you try this?
> 
>\startlanguagespecifics[fr]
>  \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]%
>\stoplanguagespecifics

I've already tried this, but it does not work. But thanks to your remark,
I've finally found the reason: it's the space *before*
"\setcharacterspacing".

This works ok:

\startlanguagespecifics[fr]
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\stoplanguagespecifics

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Re: [NTG-context] 2 problems with "texexec --module"

[Taco Hoekwater]

Peter Münster wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 1.) Compilation stop like this:
> 
> [1.1] [2.1] . (./t-french.tex
> language   : language specific options [default-fr] introduce a 4.0pt  
> skip
> \wait=

Somewhat unexpectedly, the space after [frenchpunctuation] is not 
ignored (note: I am not saying it should). Can you try this?

   \startlanguagespecifics[fr]
 \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]%
   \stoplanguagespecifics

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[John Devereux]

"Mojca Miklavec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM, John Devereux wrote:
>> Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>  > John Devereux wrote:
>>  >> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>  >>
>>  >>> John Devereux wrote:
>>   Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>  
>>  > I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools --
>>  > ini --verbose --compile cont-en
>>   Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.
>>  >>> Both of you, can you check that
>>  >>>
>>  >>>luatools luat-env.lua
>>  >>
>>  >> I just get a blank line printed. And I get the same if I feed it the name
>>  >> of a random, non-existent file. Which is not encouraging...
>>  >>
>>  >>> finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate
>>  >>
>>  >> This produces:
>>  >>
>>  >>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>  >>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>  >>   LuaTools |
>>  >>   LuaTools | runtime: 0.003 seconds
>>  >
>>  > aha, so how about setting the env variables TEXMFCNF and TEXMF
>>  >
>>  > Hans
>>
>>  aha indeed!
>>
>>  Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian... Or perhaps I
>>  messed up my configuration in the past.
>>
>>   luatools --ini --compile cont-en
>>
>>  works now.
>>
>>  I will start playing with it.
>>
>>  A quick try of the example snippet did not work (see dump at end of
>>  message) but I will look into it more and try Mojcas advice re
>>  ctxtools --update.
>
> ctxtools --update won't help you as you have some missing fonts (msam7.tfm).
> http://packages.debian.org/etch/all/texlive-base/filelist claims that
> the file should be present in texlive-base in Debian, so it's a bit
> confusing.
>
> Mojca

Hi Mojca,

There is a file here:

  /usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/tfm/public/ams/msam7.tfm

But I don't know what else is needed.

John

>>  
>>
>>  ~$cat temp.tex
>>
>>  \starttext
>> \ctxlua{a = 1.5 ; b = 1.8 ; c = a*b ; tex.print(c) ;}
>>  \stoptext
>>
>>  ~$ texexec --lua temp.tex
>>
>>
>>  TeXExec | processing document 'temp.tex'
>>  TeXExec | no ctx file found
>>  TeXExec | tex processing method: context
>>  TeXExec | TeX run 1
>>  TeXExec | writing option file temp.top
>>  TeXExec | using randomseed 1151
>>  TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
>>  TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
>>
>>  (./temp.tex
>>
>>  ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.15  int: english/english
>>
>>  language: language en is active
>>  report >> utilityfile: not present
>>  system  : cont-new loaded
>>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
>>  systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
>>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
>>  lua: used config path - /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>  lua: used cache path - 
>> //home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028
>>  ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
>>  system : cont-old loaded
>>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
>>  loading: Context Old Macros
>>  )
>>  system : cont-fil loaded
>>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
>>  loading: Context File Synonyms
>>  )
>>  bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
>>  error >> define font: font with name msam7 is not found
>>  error >> define font: name: msam7, loading aborted
>>  ! Font \*7ptmmmarm*:=msam7 at 7pt not loadable: metric data not found or 
>> bad.
>>  
>>\relax
>>  \xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
>>   \let 
>> \localrelativefontsiz...
>>  \dodosetmathfamilyA ...amily \fontsize \endcsname
>>   \else \ifcsname \fontbody 
>> ...
>>  \dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
>>   \let \fontbody 
>> #3\dodosetm...
>>   ...\scriptscriptface \c!ma \empty
>>   \dosetmathfamily \mbfam 
>> \t...
>>  \synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
>>   \fi
>>  ...
>>  l.1
>> \starttext
>>  ?

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Re: [NTG-context] mplib

[Taco Hoekwater]

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>> if mp then
>>  res = mp:execute('plain')
>>  mp:finish()
>> end
> 
> this first step runs with res=0, but there is no 'plain.mem' dumped.

For the other readers: res itself can't really be "zero". It is either
a table, or nil. The actual return value is the status field in the
table, and that can vary from 0 (good run) to 3 (extremely bad run),
and you can end up with "nil" if you have invalid arguments.

> (I have temporary appended 'dump;' to plain.mp)

After the above, you should have plain.mem in the local directory.
You can try printing res.term or res.log or even
   print(table.serialize(res))
to check if what mp is doing.

> after that I produced 'plain.mem' executing
> 'texmfstart texexec --make plain'

I assume that will create a tex plain.fmt file. But even if it
does create a .mem file, you will not succeed unless you are using
"newmpost" from the mplib-alpha-0.40 distribution and the values
you sset up for hash_size, main_memory, and param_size in the loading
stage are identical to the values used by newmpost from texmf.cnf
during mem generation.

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Re: [NTG-context] Adding custom key/value pairs

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> > Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >>
> >> Why not, I have nothing against a few predefined title pages layouts.
> >
> > Somewhat related: it would be nice if there was some common code for
> > titles (books as well as articles).
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Anyway, the maps module contains all the code to do everything. And
> > the same is true for the TUG module. And for quite a few others I have
> > laying around. Lots of duplicate code all over, so a common framework
> > would be great. I've been meaning to write one for a long time, but
> > somehow I never quite get around to actually doing it.
> >
> > Just saying this to let you know that I would really welcome a module
> > with commands like \setuptitle, \definetitle, and \placetitle.
>
> I agree with that. It will be really nice to have a module that does a few
> "simple" titles (alternate=(a|b|c), etc.) For one of my personal modules,
> I was following something along the lines of the maps module. But I find
> Wolfgang's solution on the wiki to be more ConTeXtish than what all other
> modules use.

Hi Aditya,

could you use a few lines what do you expect from a placetitle/placetitlepage
command or a titlepage environment.

What should we do with the abstract, did it depend on the document title ...

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM, John Devereux wrote:
> Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>  > John Devereux wrote:
>  >> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  >>
>  >>> John Devereux wrote:
>   Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  
>  > I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools --
>  > ini --verbose --compile cont-en
>   Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.
>  >>> Both of you, can you check that
>  >>>
>  >>>luatools luat-env.lua
>  >>
>  >> I just get a blank line printed. And I get the same if I feed it the name
>  >> of a random, non-existent file. Which is not encouraging...
>  >>
>  >>> finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate
>  >>
>  >> This produces:
>  >>
>  >>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>  >>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>  >>   LuaTools |
>  >>   LuaTools | runtime: 0.003 seconds
>  >
>  > aha, so how about setting the env variables TEXMFCNF and TEXMF
>  >
>  > Hans
>
>  aha indeed!
>
>  Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian... Or perhaps I
>  messed up my configuration in the past.
>
>   luatools --ini --compile cont-en
>
>  works now.
>
>  I will start playing with it.
>
>  A quick try of the example snippet did not work (see dump at end of
>  message) but I will look into it more and try Mojcas advice re
>  ctxtools --update.

ctxtools --update won't help you as you have some missing fonts (msam7.tfm).
http://packages.debian.org/etch/all/texlive-base/filelist claims that
the file should be present in texlive-base in Debian, so it's a bit
confusing.

Mojca


>  
>
>  ~$cat temp.tex
>
>  \starttext
> \ctxlua{a = 1.5 ; b = 1.8 ; c = a*b ; tex.print(c) ;}
>  \stoptext
>
>  ~$ texexec --lua temp.tex
>
>
>  TeXExec | processing document 'temp.tex'
>  TeXExec | no ctx file found
>  TeXExec | tex processing method: context
>  TeXExec | TeX run 1
>  TeXExec | writing option file temp.top
>  TeXExec | using randomseed 1151
>  TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
>  TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
>
>  (./temp.tex
>
>  ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.15  int: english/english
>
>  language: language en is active
>  report >> utilityfile: not present
>  system  : cont-new loaded
>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
>  systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
>  lua: used config path - /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>  lua: used cache path - 
> //home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028
>  ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
>  system : cont-old loaded
>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
>  loading: Context Old Macros
>  )
>  system : cont-fil loaded
>  (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
>  loading: Context File Synonyms
>  )
>  bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
>  error >> define font: font with name msam7 is not found
>  error >> define font: name: msam7, loading aborted
>  ! Font \*7ptmmmarm*:=msam7 at 7pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad.
>  
>\relax
>  \xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
>   \let 
> \localrelativefontsiz...
>  \dodosetmathfamilyA ...amily \fontsize \endcsname
>   \else \ifcsname \fontbody 
> ...
>  \dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
>   \let \fontbody 
> #3\dodosetm...
>   ...\scriptscriptface \c!ma \empty
>   \dosetmathfamily \mbfam 
> \t...
>  \synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
>   \fi
>  ...
>  l.1
> \starttext
>  ?
>
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Hans van der Meer]

Same thing here. "luatools luat-env.lua" gives an empty line. After  
"luatools --generate" again the same.
And I have TEXMFCNF and TEXMF defined in .bashrc
TEXMFCNF="/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c"
TEXMF="{/Users/hans/TeX/texmf-private,/usr/local/texlive/texmf- 
context,/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf,/ 
usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf- 
dist,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-doc,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf- 
var}"

So there must be something else amiis.

Hans van der Meer


On 15 apr 2008, at 11:56, Hans Hagen wrote:

> John Devereux wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> John Devereux wrote:
 Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm getting the following error when running this command:  
> luatools --
> ini --verbose --compile cont-en
 Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.
>>> Both of you, can you check that
>>>
>>>   luatools luat-env.lua
>>
>> I just get a blank line printed. And I get the same if I feed it  
>> the name
>> of a random, non-existent file. Which is not encouraging...
>>
>>> finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate
>>
>> This produces:
>>
>>  LuaTools | skipping /texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>  LuaTools | skipping /texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>  LuaTools |
>>  LuaTools | runtime: 0.003 seconds
>
> aha, so how about setting the env variables TEXMFCNF and TEXMF
>
> Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[John Devereux]

Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Devereux wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> John Devereux wrote:
 Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools -- 
> ini --verbose --compile cont-en
 Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.
>>> Both of you, can you check that
>>>
>>>luatools luat-env.lua
>> 
>> I just get a blank line printed. And I get the same if I feed it the name
>> of a random, non-existent file. Which is not encouraging...
>> 
>>> finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate
>> 
>> This produces:
>> 
>>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>   LuaTools | 
>>   LuaTools | runtime: 0.003 seconds
>
> aha, so how about setting the env variables TEXMFCNF and TEXMF
>
> Hans

aha indeed!

Setting TEXMF was missing from the instructions in debian... Or perhaps I
messed up my configuration in the past.

  luatools --ini --compile cont-en

works now.

I will start playing with it.

A quick try of the example snippet did not work (see dump at end of
message) but I will look into it more and try Mojcas advice re
ctxtools --update.

Thanks.




~$cat temp.tex

\starttext
\ctxlua{a = 1.5 ; b = 1.8 ; c = a*b ; tex.print(c) ;}
\stoptext

~$ texexec --lua temp.tex


TeXExec | processing document 'temp.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file temp.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 1151
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en

(./temp.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.15  int: english/english

language: language en is active
report >> utilityfile: not present
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
lua: used config path - /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lua: used cache path - 
//home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
error >> define font: font with name msam7 is not found
error >> define font: name: msam7, loading aborted
! Font \*7ptmmmarm*:=msam7 at 7pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad.
 
   \relax 
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier 
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...
\dodosetmathfamilyA ...amily \fontsize \endcsname 
  \else \ifcsname \fontbody ...
\dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
  \let \fontbody #3\dodosetm...
 ...\scriptscriptface \c!ma \empty 
  \dosetmathfamily \mbfam \t...
\synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies 
  \fi 
...
l.1 
\starttext
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Hans Hagen]

John Devereux wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> John Devereux wrote:
>>> Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools -- 
 ini --verbose --compile cont-en
>>> Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.
>> Both of you, can you check that
>>
>>luatools luat-env.lua
> 
> I just get a blank line printed. And I get the same if I feed it the name
> of a random, non-existent file. Which is not encouraging...
> 
>> finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate
> 
> This produces:
> 
>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>   LuaTools | skipping /texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>   LuaTools | 
>   LuaTools | runtime: 0.003 seconds

aha, so how about setting the env variables TEXMFCNF and TEXMF

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[John Devereux]

Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Devereux wrote:
>> Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools -- 
>>> ini --verbose --compile cont-en
>
>> Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.
>
> Both of you, can you check that
>
>luatools luat-env.lua

I just get a blank line printed. And I get the same if I feed it the name
of a random, non-existent file. Which is not encouraging...

>
> finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate

This produces:

  LuaTools | skipping /texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
  LuaTools | skipping /texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
  LuaTools | 
  LuaTools | runtime: 0.003 seconds

I then still get the same error unfortunately :(

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:57 AM, John Devereux wrote:
>
>  I have not run the ctxtools --update since I m not sure if is
>  appropriate for debian...

ctxtools --update does several things:
a) download cont-tmf.zip
b) extract to texmf-local
c) generate formats

a) is safe, b) and c) might put thing to weird places (different
distros have different conventions). A rather safe thing to do is to
unzip cont-tmf.zip to a location that you trust to be OK. You can
unzip it to either
/usr/local/share/texmf/
or to .texlive (check if one exists) and then regenerate formats in
the "debian way". If you put files to /usr/local/share/texmf/, the
next, the next update (does it ever happen?) will update those files
(uninstall might possibly leave some files there if they were not
present in your previous installation). If you put context to your
local tree, you only need to make sure not to forget about it. If you
upgrade context with debian later, the tree in your home will have
precedence.

But in general there should be no problem updating some files on
debian. If you don't trust ctxtools, just do it manually.

You can also run rsync from minimals.contextgarden.net to update
context files instead of downloading and extracting the zip from
pragma.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
> I get a bus error on mac intel as well.

Bus errors often point to code alignment errors, so it
could be that the same problem manifests on all 64-bit
platforms. But that is about the only hint I can give,
someone has to debug the application.

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[Taco Hoekwater]

John Devereux wrote:
> Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools -- 
>> ini --verbose --compile cont-en

> Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.

Both of you, can you check that

   luatools luat-env.lua

finds the file? If not, try running luatools --generate

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
>  Drazen Baic wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Of course, I should have provided one in my first mail. Trying to create
>  > a minimal test file I also found out that the crash only happens when
>  > \setupinteraction [state=start] is set. Here is the file.
>
>  That example works OK for me, not even any warnings from valgrind.
>  But I am on linux-i686, so it could be a problem in the ppc build,
>  and I can't help you there. I hope someone else can take this up.
>
>
>  > \setupinteraction [state=start]
>  > \useURL[apache][http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi]
>  >
>  > \starttext
>  > \startitemize
>  >  \item Download Apache at \from[apache]
>  > \stopitemize
>  >
>  > \stoptext
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>  Taco

I get a bus error on mac intel as well.

The most funny part is that one doesn't even notice that fact when
running ConTeXt. It seems to run normally, only no PDF file is
created.

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

[Taco Hoekwater]

Drazen Baic wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Of course, I should have provided one in my first mail. Trying to create
> a minimal test file I also found out that the crash only happens when
> \setupinteraction [state=start] is set. Here is the file.

That example works OK for me, not even any warnings from valgrind.
But I am on linux-i686, so it could be a problem in the ppc build,
and I can't help you there. I hope someone else can take this up.

> \setupinteraction [state=start]
> \useURL[apache][http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi]
> 
> \starttext
> \startitemize
>  \item Download Apache at \from[apache]
> \stopitemize
> 
> \stoptext

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts and luatex

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>>  i'm wondering ... if a name is not found, i can regenerate the database
>>  at runtime. i had that for a while; maybe i should reinstate that
> 
> This sounds reasonable. If user is asking for non-existing font, he
> can be punished a bit (by a longer compile time) for providing the
> wrong name, and if he has just installed a new font, that behaviour is
> desirable anyway.

i now have

fonts.names.autoreload = toboolean(os.env['MTX.FONTS.AUTOLOAD'] or 
os.env['MTX_FONTS_AUTOLOAD'] or "no")

so, one can configure it

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Re: [NTG-context] Module documentation

[richard . stephens]

Wolfgang and Mojca,

Thank-you for your replies.  They have enabled me to set up a little batch 
file to make life easier when I want to generate a module document.

Thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ahoi!
>
> In a volume of proceedings, each chapter has an author and title and
> sometimes a subtitle.
> The ToC entry should look like:
>
> Author: Title \hfill Page
> (no indents!)
>
> At the moment I've this setup:
>
> ---
>
> \def\Titel#1#2#3{% author, title, subtitle
>\page%
>{\writebetweenlist[chapter]{\placeongrid{\noindent #1:}}
>\switchtobodyfont[12pt]\noindent #1%
>\chapter{\noindent #2}%
>{\ss\bf #3}%
>\blank[2*big]}%
> }
>
> \setuphead[chapter][page=no, number=no, align=
> {flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}, style={\ss\bfa}, before={},
> after={\blank}]
>
> \definecombinedlist[toc][chapter][level=chapter, placehead=no,
> criterium=all, alternative=b, offset=none]
> \setupcombinedlist  [toc] [partnumber=no]
>
> ---
>
> Please don't cry, I know it's ugly... ;-)
>
> What it does is close, but nood good enough.
>
> - Is there a way to use the normal chapter (or any head) mechanism
> with such "feathered" titles?
> - How do I get my special ToC?

Try this.

\unprotect

\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}

\startsetups chapter:list

  \doifsomething{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
  {\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
   \sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}

  \def\ChapterSubTitle{\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}

\stopsetups

\setupsectionworld
  [chapter]
  [setups={chapter:list},
   author=]

\def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
  {\vbox{#2\crlf\ChapterSubTitle}}

\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax

\protect

\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [incrementnumber=no,
   command=\ChapterCommand]

\starttext
\completecontent
\startsectionworld[chapter][author=Hans,text=Chapter One,subtitle=The Beginning]
\startsectionworld[chapter][author=Tom,text=Chapter Two,subtitle=The End]
\stopsectionworld
\stopsectionworld
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

[John Devereux]

Michael Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools -- 
> ini --verbose --compile cont-en

[...]

Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.

Following the instructions in the debian README.MarkIV when I get to:

  luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en

I get the error

  ! LuaTeX error [string "luas[0]"]:1: attempt to call field 'luafilechunk' (a 
nil value).

(full listing at end of mail).

I have not run the ctxtools --update since I m not sure if is
appropriate for debian...

Any ideas?




luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en

LuaTools | version 1.1.1 - 2006+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT 

LuaTools | loading configuration for /usr/share/texmf/web2c from 
///home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da
LuaTools | locating list of /home/jd/.texmf-config
LuaTools | locating list of /home/jd/.texmf-var
LuaTools | locating list of /home/jd/texmf
LuaTools | locating list of /etc/texmf
LuaTools | locating list of /var/lib/texmf
LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/share/texmf
LuaTools | locating list of /usr/share/texmf
LuaTools | locating list of /usr/share/texmf-texlive
LuaTools | loading files for /etc/texmf from 
///home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/76f9d14d3870a3ca17c588db81902d3d
LuaTools | loading files for /var/lib/texmf from 
///home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/49ce9fb6981e7315a79363280fdfe510
LuaTools | loading files for /usr/local/share/texmf from 
///home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/5044cbe2799fe389b078f26ff6b9ee8e
LuaTools | loading files for /usr/share/texmf from 
///home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/0638a6bb4aac17125bf8bd1aa29dc0c8
LuaTools | loading files for /usr/share/texmf-texlive from 
///home/jd/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/3187e2337ee4b2115b66aeca116ccb56
LuaTools | creating initialization file cont-en
LuaTools | using library path : /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base
LuaTools | using lua libraries: l-string.lua l-lpeg.lua l-table.lua 
l-boolean.lua l-number.lua l-set.lua l-unicode.lua l-md5.lua l-os.lua l-io.lua 
l-file.lua l-dir.lua l-utils.lua l-tex.lua luat-lib.lua luat-inp.lua 
luat-tmp.lua luat-zip.lua luat-tex.lua
LuaTools | using compiled initialization file cont-en.luc
LuaTools | using lua initialization file cont-en.luc
LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua="cont-en.luc" 
"/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex" \\dump
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex 
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex 
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex) 
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-prm.tex) 
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/luat-env.tex
! LuaTeX error [string "luas[0]"]:1: attempt to call field 'luafilechunk' (a 
nil value).
\ctxluabyteload ...nvironment.luafilechunk("#1") }
  
\ ...fproductionrun \else \ctxluabyteload {#1}{#2}
  \fi \global \everyloadluac...
l.168 \registerctxluafile{luat-env}{1.001}
  
? 


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Re: [NTG-context] LinuxLibertine Typescript (was : fonts and luatex)

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

>> /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:226: attempt to call
>> field '?' (a nil value)

> I tested the font setups yesterday on my own system I got the same error
> message but I found also the reason for this.

ok, such an error should not happen

> The Libertine fonts contains pints in the font names and this did currently
> not work with MkIV, a temporary solution is to rename the fonts and remove
> the version number from the fonts names. I know this is not perfect and Hans
> is able to fiy this but it should do it for the moment.
> 
> I tested also to use the name of the fonts instead of the file name and this
> did also work (after you removed the version number).


[file:bla 1.2.3]

may be problematic anyway (the space) so best try:

[file:bla1.2.3]

just remove spaces in names, which is what happens behind the screens too



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Re: [NTG-context] mplib

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>
> Is there a find_file function necessary to find the mem-file given in 
> 'mem_name' or is such a function only necessary for file-names in 
> 'mp:execute'?

the find function is needed

in context you can use

metapost.process('formatname',datastream)

this will generate the format if needed and reuse it



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Re: [NTG-context] bug in mplib?

[Hans Hagen]

Peter Rolf wrote:

> same here. another broken example

could be related with thomas's bug, more news later

(fyi: the conversion is now using more low level mp output, and we have 
to figure out what happens there)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] bug in mplib?

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just noticed that with the new incarnation of metapost, arrows  
> behave somewhat erratically. Take this minmal example:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startuseMPgraphic{arrowtest}
> z1=(0,0) ;
> z2=(3cm,0) ;
> ahlength := 15pt ;
> pickup pencircle scaled 5pt ;
> drawarrow z1--z2 ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
> 
> \useMPgraphic{arrowtest}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> compile it with mkii and mkiv and observe the difference.

confirmed ... homework for taco and me

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