Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisał(a): > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ > >> > >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text > >> wherever you want in Keynote. > >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. > > > > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text > > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be > > done. > > > achieve the "easiness" I mean. > positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than > do that with keyboard, > and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the > right result. Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)... My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document, and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables, is to: 1. think about it 2. sketch it on a piece of paper 3. think a bit more 4. write down the important coordinates etc. 5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4. This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice or thrice). > not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables, > make simple drawings, metafun or tikz > get fancy templates, > apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or > believable shade) > Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX, > but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach > (using metafun?) quite unproductive. As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is *thinking* (and writing the *text*). Even two or three hours of typing don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position and/or size...) > So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX, > using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is > always not a good idea. This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you consider your presentation slides "unstructured", maybe it's time to devote more thinking to it... But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz. I agree that in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything. Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Why vim users don't use the ESC key? - It's too far on the keyboard. It's faster to type ctrl-[. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] FiXme module
Am 30.04.2009 um 03:29 schrieb Yanrui Li:
2009/4/30 Wolfgang Schuster :
Hi all,
for the people who're looking for a equivalent of the FiXme package
for
LaTeX,
there is a first version only with the basic commands. I can extend
the
module
if there is interest but I don't want to integrate margin notes and
highlighted
as the todonotes package has.
URL: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/fixme/
Hi Wolfgang,
Is this the usage of the module?
\usemodule[t][fixme]
You can leave out the [t], you need the first argument for \usemodule
only
when there are more only files with the same name, e.g. Hans layout
module
(m-layout) and Patrick's (t-layout)
\starttext
This is only a test \fixme{blah}.
\stoptext
I want to know how to use it because I think it is a good example for
my studing the "programming" of ConTeXt :)
You could also change the location of the message with \fixme[location]
{...}.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ >> >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text >> wherever you want in Keynote. >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. > > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be > done. achieve the "easiness" I mean. positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than do that with keyboard, and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the right result. not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables, make simple drawings, get fancy templates, apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or believable shade) Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX, but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach (using metafun?) quite unproductive. So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX, using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is always not a good idea. > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] FiXme module
2009/4/30 Wolfgang Schuster :
> Hi all,
>
> for the people who're looking for a equivalent of the FiXme package for
> LaTeX,
> there is a first version only with the basic commands. I can extend the
> module
> if there is interest but I don't want to integrate margin notes and
> highlighted
> as the todonotes package has.
>
> URL: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/fixme/
>
Hi Wolfgang,
Is this the usage of the module?
\usemodule[t][fixme]
\starttext
This is only a test \fixme{blah}.
\stoptext
I want to know how to use it because I think it is a good example for
my studing the "programming" of ConTeXt :)
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Best wishes,
Li Yanrui
* Gentoo Linux (~x86)
* ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.04.29 20:23)
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
Yanrui Li 写道:
Hi,
The numbering of footnotes are abnormal. Simple example:
\starttext
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\chapter{E}
This is a test\footnote{e}.
\chapter{S}
This is a test\footnote{s}.
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\stoptext
The numbering of four footnotes is "1.1", "2.2", "3.3", "4.4" respectively.
I got the problem too.
$ context --version
MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.29 20:23
Best wishes,
Wei-Wei
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[NTG-context] FiXme module
Hi all, for the people who're looking for a equivalent of the FiXme package for LaTeX, there is a first version only with the basic commands. I can extend the module if there is interest but I don't want to integrate margin notes and highlighted as the todonotes package has. URL: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/fixme/ Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
Am 29.04.2009 um 23:16 schrieb R. Bastian: I think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of standard-ConTeXt or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt ie a ConTeXt to use as "reference" Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light How could a BNF grammar help to learn ConTeXt, it did not explain what a environment do and where is the advantage to ConTeXt's own command explanations with the information which arguments are optional and what keys and values a command takes. In a recent MkIV you even have the option to enable a key-val-checkers which mention invalid keys on the terminal. I have no problems to be corrected when I'm wrong or missing something. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simpleslides
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: I gave a try to Simple slides... It seems to be very nice, but a few questions raised immediately 1) I get warnings (in mkiv): (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/third/simple-slides/simpleslides-f-default.tex simpleslides: loading default font setup fonts : beware: fontclass ignored (if needed use: [fontclass][size][settings]) fonts : beware: fontclass ignored (if needed use: [fontclass][size][settings]) fonts : beware: fontclass ignored (if needed use: [fontclass][size][settings]) )) Ignore these for the time being. ConTeXt MkIV changed behaviour a few days before we released the module. This will be fixed in the next release. 2) How to use arbitrary fonts (e.g., specified in type-win)? See page 25 of the manual, the subsection titled "Choosing your own font" :-) Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnote numbers size in heads
Hi, please repost your question (with a working example -> \starttext ... \stoptext) in a new thread and don't hijack other threads for your question, the messages are hard to find. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:00:07 +0200
luigi scarso scribit:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200
> > luigi scarso scribit:
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-)
> > > > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form.
> > > >
> > > hmm.
> > > Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete.
> > >
> > >
> > > > But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to
> > > > develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc
> > > > and also to add examples for "[optional user data]".
> > > >
> > > hmm
> > > I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) ,
> > > I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too,
> > > in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX .
> > (chap.24-26 of the Texbook are embryos of a grammar, but they are not
> > usable
> > like the grammar of Pascal or Python)
> > > I suspect that TeX is not a cfl .
> > >
> > > Anyway,
> > > lpeg can make the thing easier
> > >
> > > --
> > > luigi
> >
>
>
> >
> > I think that something user-friendly could be do in a cooperative wiki (in
> > the between, i found
> > http://texshow.contextgarden.net/) beginning with
> >
> > CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE "\starttext" TEXT "\stoptext" | CONTEXT_SOURCE
> > TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT
> >
> > and so on.
> >
> Consider that one can always make some dirty tricks in PREAMBLE to render
> useless
> "\starttext"
> or "\stoptext"
>
> To be general, i think
> MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END
>
> For example , let's try
> $>context test
> where
> test.tex ::="\end"
> or
> test.tex ::="FOO\end"
>
> Are there any errors ? No
> Is test.tex in {CONTEXT_SOURCE } ? No
> Is test.tex in {MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE} Yes
> so MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE includes CONTEXT_SOURCE
> (of course
> test.tex ::="\end""\starttext""\stoptext" is also in {CONTEXT_SOURCE }
> )
I dont understand the sense of "\end\starttext" (I am simply seeking a
layout system which works better than Latex).
>
> I think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of
> standard-ConTeXt
> or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt
> ie a ConTeXt to use as "reference"
Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light
> but can be a bit hard to define
>
> --
> luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:11 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
I try to understand here, how to redo my chapter setup that once
worked using sectionworld commands.
At the moment I get no output for the chapter title at all.
My input reads:
\Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle}
You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command,
this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv.
\setuphead
[chapter]
[header=high,
incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
page=yes,
number=no,
align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant},
style=]
\setuphead
[title]
[command=,
style=\tfc]
\define\ChapterAuthor
{\doiftext{\theChapterAuthor}
{\rm\tf\theChapterAuthor\crlf\vskip0.25em}}
\define\ChapterTitle
{{\ss\bfb\theChapterTitle}}
\define\ChapterSubTitle
{\doiftext{\theChapterSubTitle}
{\crlf\vskip0.2em\ss\bf\theChapterSubTitle}}
\define[2]\ChapterCommand
{\doiftextelse{\theChapterAuthor}
{\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{}{\theChapterAuthor:
\theChapterTitle}}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{}{\theChapterTitle}}}%
\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle\ChapterSubTitle}}
\let\theChapterAuthor \relax
\let\theChapterTitle \relax
\let\theChapterSubTitle\relax
\define[3]\Titel
{\def\theChapterAuthor {#1}%
\def\theChapterTitle {#2}%
\def\theChapterSubTitle{#3}%
\chapter{}}
\starttext
\completecontent
\Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:13 schrieb Otared Kavian: Thanks for your nice example, but I too get "See section 1 at page 11.1." with ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english. MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.28 08:46 Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On 29 avr. 09, at 21:05, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces
"It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he
is happy.
See section 1 at page *11.1*."
I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number.
weird because i get this: See section 11 at page 1.
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang,
Thanks for your nice example, but I too get "See section 1 at page
11.1." with ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int:
english/english.
Can it be that like numbering footnotes, chapter, section and
pagenumberings are also broken?
Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces
"It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he
is happy.
See section 1 at page *11.1*."
I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number.
weird because i get this: See section 11 at page 1.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces
"It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See section 1 at page *11.1*."
I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number.
Vyatcheslav
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[NTG-context] simpleslides
I gave a try to Simple slides... It seems to be very nice, but a few questions raised immediately 1) I get warnings (in mkiv): (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/third/simple-slides/simpleslides-f-default.tex simpleslides: loading default font setup fonts : beware: fontclass ignored (if needed use: [fontclass][size][settings]) fonts : beware: fontclass ignored (if needed use: [fontclass][size][settings]) fonts : beware: fontclass ignored (if needed use: [fontclass][size][settings]) )) 2) How to use arbitrary fonts (e.g., specified in type-win)? Best, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Indeed I am :D
Best wishes
Idris
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Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس
سماوي حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\setuphead[chapter][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he
is happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي
حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yanrui Li wrote: 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian : Hi Yanrui, I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv (ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english). Hi Otared, When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can get the abnormal result with MkIV :) BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all". context --make only generates mkiv formats. To generate mkii formats, use texexec --make --all you can cheat: context --make --pdftex - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] :-) of course not .. its; new -) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:07 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway You're welcome to add missing command to cont-en.xml \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Let me start with a quote: "After using ConTeXt for a while, many users begin to think about producing their presentations with it, too. ConTeXt is ideally suited for this task. " In fact, I hate transitions :) And I don't need any animations. I just want professionally-looking pdf pages with rich image stuff to assist the speaker, and I believe that Context is well suitable for this. Where I can get simpleslides? I want to give them a try, and see what can be improved. http://modules.contextgarden.net/simpleslides. See http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/t-simpleslides/doc/context/third/simple-slides/ for documentation and examples. Any feedback is welcome. Thomas, can you add a link to the manual on the modules page? Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Yue Wang wrote: > Hi, > > you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ > > but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text > wherever you want in Keynote. > In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. > I don't understand your sentence "In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that." >From wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers *Layers* are ConTeXt's mechanism for absolute positioning of elements and other advanced techniques like switching elements on and off. Maybe have I missed the point ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200
> luigi scarso scribit:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-)
> > > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form.
> > >
> > hmm.
> > Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete.
> >
> >
> > > But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to
> > > develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc
> > > and also to add examples for "[optional user data]".
> > >
> > hmm
> > I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) ,
> > I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too,
> > in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX .
> (chap.24-26 of the Texbook are embryos of a grammar, but they are not
> usable
> like the grammar of Pascal or Python)
> > I suspect that TeX is not a cfl .
> >
> > Anyway,
> > lpeg can make the thing easier
> >
> > --
> > luigi
>
>
> I think that something user-friendly could be do in a cooperative wiki (in
> the between, i found
> http://texshow.contextgarden.net/) beginning with
>
> CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE "\starttext" TEXT "\stoptext" | CONTEXT_SOURCE
> TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT
>
> and so on.
>
Consider that one can always make some dirty tricks in PREAMBLE to render
useless
"\starttext"
or "\stoptext"
To be general, i think
MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END
For example , let's try
$>context test
where
test.tex ::="\end"
or
test.tex ::="FOO\end"
Are there any errors ? No
Is test.tex in {CONTEXT_SOURCE } ? No
Is test.tex in {MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE} Yes
so MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE includes CONTEXT_SOURCE
(of course
test.tex ::="\end""\starttext""\stoptext" is also in {CONTEXT_SOURCE }
)
I think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of
standard-ConTeXt
or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt
ie a ConTeXt to use as "reference"
but can be a bit hard to define
--
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
2009/4/30 Aditya Mahajan : > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yanrui Li wrote: > >> 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian : >>> >>> Hi Yanrui, >>> >>> I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv >>> (ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: >>> english/english). >>> >> >> Hi Otared, >> >> When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can >> get the abnormal result with MkIV :) >> >> BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I >> had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all". > > context --make only generates mkiv formats. To generate mkii formats, use > texexec --make --all > The problem still exist after "texexec --make --all". Today, I deleted the old version and installed a entire new beta. Maybe there is no problem if you updated from the old one. -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui * Gentoo Linux (~x86) * ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.04.28 08:46) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: Hi, you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text wherever you want in Keynote. In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be done. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yanrui Li wrote: 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian : Hi Yanrui, I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv (ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english). Hi Otared, When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can get the abnormal result with MkIV :) BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all". context --make only generates mkiv formats. To generate mkii formats, use texexec --make --all Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 29 avr. 09, at 18:37, Yanrui Li wrote: 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian : Hi Yanrui, I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv (ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/ english). Hi Otared, When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can get the abnormal result with MkIV :) Hi Yanrui, Maybe I was lucky enough and didn't succeed to update yesterday… :-) Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 luigi scarso scribit: > > > > > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) > > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. > > > hmm. > Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete. > > > > But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to > > develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc > > and also to add examples for "[optional user data]". > > > hmm > I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) , > I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too, > in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX . (chap.24-26 of the Texbook are embryos of a grammar, but they are not usable like the grammar of Pascal or Python) > I suspect that TeX is not a cfl . > > Anyway, > lpeg can make the thing easier > > -- > luigi I think that something user-friendly could be do in a cooperative wiki (in the between, i found http://texshow.contextgarden.net/) beginning with CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE "\starttext" TEXT "\stoptext" | CONTEXT_SOURCE TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT and so on. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Hi, you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text wherever you want in Keynote. In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. Yue Wang On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Let me start with a quote: > "After using ConTeXt for a while, many users begin to think about producing > their presentations with it, too. ConTeXt is ideally suited for this task. " > > In fact, I hate transitions :) And I don't need any animations. I just want > professionally-looking pdf pages with rich image stuff to assist the > speaker, and I believe that Context is well suitable for this. > > Where I can get simpleslides? I want to give them a try, and see what can be > improved. > > I did not find simpleslides on the wiki, but instead found > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Presentations . Is it up-to date? > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents contains good example of > presentation by Brooks. IMHO, it beats any static PowerPoint presentation. > > Vyatcheslav > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
2009/4/29 Otared Kavian : > Hi Yanrui, > > I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv > (ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english). > Hi Otared, When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can get the abnormal result with MkIV :) BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all". $ > texexec --pdf test .. This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (/opt/context-new/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! TeXExec | runtime: 0.086213 -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui * Gentoo Linux (~x86) * ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.04.28 08:46) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] presentation module
Let me start with a quote: "After using ConTeXt for a while, many users begin to think about producing their presentations with it, too. ConTeXt is ideally suited for this task. " In fact, I hate transitions :) And I don't need any animations. I just want professionally-looking pdf pages with rich image stuff to assist the speaker, and I believe that Context is well suitable for this. Where I can get simpleslides? I want to give them a try, and see what can be improved. I did not find simpleslides on the wiki, but instead found http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Presentations . Is it up-to date? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents contains good example of presentation by Brooks. IMHO, it beats any static PowerPoint presentation. Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] footnote numbers size in heads
Hello all:
using defaults setings, footnote numbers size in heads are too big.
I usually use
\chapter{Capitulo 1\switchtobodyfont[9]\footnote{texto del
footnote}\switchtobodyfont[11]}
and works fine.
But if I have a chapter head with a footnote in the middle:
\chapter{Capitulo 1\switchtobodyfont[9]\footnote{texto del
footnote}\switchtobodyfont[11] continua el titulo}
the result is not correct.
How can I fix this?
tahnkyou in adavance.
Horacio Suarez
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
> > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. > hmm. Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete. > But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to > develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc > and also to add examples for "[optional user data]". > hmm I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) , I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too, in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX . I suspect that TeX is not a cfl . Anyway, lpeg can make the thing easier -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:07:53 -0600 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد scribit: > Hi Wolfgang, > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > >> Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params > >> one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and > >> the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not > >> all). > > > > http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm > > I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway > > \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] > > Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use > > [optional user data] > > Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not > find it. > > Best wishes > Idris > > -- > Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief > International Journal of Shi`i Studies > Department of Philosophy > Colorado State University > Fort Collins, CO 80523 May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc and also to add examples for "[optional user data]". rb > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
Hi Yanrui,
I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and
mkiv (ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int:
english/english).
Best regards: OK
On 29 avr. 09, at 16:00, Yanrui Li wrote:
2009/4/28 Hans Hagen :
As I'm redoing the backend as well as cross referencing some
interaction
features might be broken but normally they are easy to fix (once i
know what
fails). So, best collect all bugs while i'm away so that i can deal
with
then at once.
The numbering of footnotes are abnormal. Simple example:
\starttext
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\chapter{E}
This is a test\footnote{e}.
\chapter{S}
This is a test\footnote{s}.
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\stoptext
The numbering of four footnotes is "1.1", "2.2", "3.3", "4.4"
respectively.
In addition, I am looking forward to having the numbering mechanism of
"bychapter" again, which I have descriped in
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040203.html
--
Best wishes,
Li Yanrui
* Gentoo Linux (~x86)
* ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.04.28 08:46)
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-29 um 15:53 schrieb Mohamed Bana:
Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow
\section hello world
to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be
replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions.
Please don't mix your concern about structurals without braces into
this thread, would you please? Or is it the same topic?
I agree that it would be nice to know if commands disappear.
I try to understand here, how to redo my chapter setup that once
worked using sectionworld commands.
At the moment I get no output for the chapter title at all.
My input reads:
\Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle}
The output as chapter title should become like:
\vbox{
{\rm\tf Author\crlf}
{\ss\bfb Title\crlf}
{\ss\bf Subtitle}
}
In the table of contents I need:
Author: Title \hfill pagenumber
So, using \startchapter, I define \Titel like this:
\def\Titel#1#2#3{\startchapter[title={#2},bookmark={#2}]
[author={#1},subtitle={#3}]}
I guess, even \startchapter should obey to \setuphead[chapter]:
\setuphead[chapter][
header=high,
incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
page=yes, number=no,
align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant},
style=,]
Therefore I define (i.e. Wolfgang defined) \ChapterCommand like:
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle
\ChapterSubTitle}}
While \ChapterAuthor cum suis is defined in a setup.
Now, what's the replacement for:
\setupsectionworld[chapter][setups={chapter:list},author=]
I tried to adapt Wolfgang's code to Hans' sparse hints:
\unprotect
\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
\startsetups chapter:list
\doiftextelse{\structureuservalue{author}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\structureuservalue{author}:\space
\structurevalue{title}}{}}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\structurevalue{title}}{}}}
\def\ChapterAuthor{%
\doiftextelse%
{\structureuservalue{author}}%
{\rm\tf\structureuservalue{author}\crlf\vskip0.25em}
{}%
}
\def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfb\structurevalue{title}}}
\def\ChapterSubTitle{%
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{\crlf\vskip0.2em\ss\bf\structureuservalue{subtitle}}%
{}%
}
\stopsetups
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle
\ChapterSubTitle}}
% why is/was this needed?
\let\ChapterAuthor\relax
\let\ChapterTitle\relax
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
\protect
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
2009/4/28 Hans Hagen :
> As I'm redoing the backend as well as cross referencing some interaction
> features might be broken but normally they are easy to fix (once i know what
> fails). So, best collect all bugs while i'm away so that i can deal with
> then at once.
>
The numbering of footnotes are abnormal. Simple example:
\starttext
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\chapter{E}
This is a test\footnote{e}.
\chapter{S}
This is a test\footnote{s}.
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\stoptext
The numbering of four footnotes is "1.1", "2.2", "3.3", "4.4" respectively.
In addition, I am looking forward to having the numbering mechanism of
"bychapter" again, which I have descriped in
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040203.html
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* ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.04.28 08:46)
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow
\section hello world
to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be
replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions.
On 28/04/2009 19:53, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some
betas before).
removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] installing minimals
No -- sorry I forgot to mention that I tried all that, on both computers, for mk II and IV. Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 14:58, Jörg Hagmann wrote: Hi, I don't know whether the following is related to what is being discussed at the moment, but when trying to install a new version of minimals (in a separate, fresh directory), compiling a test file fails with the following message: I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! I think that we forget to run mktexlsr at the end of format generation. Does running mktexlr manually help? If not, does running an additional "texexec --make --all" help? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Prof. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari MD University of Basel Department of Biomedicine Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics Mattenstrasse 28 CH-4058 Basel Switzerland Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for
my needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use
own values for author, date etc. in titles (which was possible
in sectionworld)
key = value
with \structureuservalue{key}, unless it's broken -)
the info travels with the list data as well so eventually it will be
accessible everywhere
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Hi, On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:32 PM, luigi scarso wrote: > > well, at this point why not beamer of latex ? Umm... You are good at telling jokes:) why not try slideshow of PLT Scheme? #lang slideshow (slide #:title "How to Say Hello" (t "Hello World!")) > > -- > luigi > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > > Yue Wang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing minimals
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[NTG-context] installing minimals
Hi, I don't know whether the following is related to what is being discussed at the moment, but when trying to install a new version of minimals (in a separate, fresh directory), compiling a test file fails with the following message: On the Mac (Leopard): Setting "/Users/bonasia/contextexp/tex" as TEXROOT. bonasa:contextexp bonasia$ cd ~/Documents/alectoris/archives/talks/medges/longlife/ bonasa:longlife bonasia$ texmfstart texexec handout_longlife TeXExec | processing document 'handout_longlife' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file handout_longlife.top TeXExec | using randomseed 553 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (/Users/bonasia/contextexp/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! TeXExec | runtime: 0.073803 On ubuntu (9.04): Setting "/home/tetrao/newtex/tex" as TEXROOT. tet...@tetrao:~/Desktop/test$ texmfstart texexec test TeXExec | processing document 'test' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file test.top TeXExec | using randomseed 1368 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en pdftex: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory TeXExec | runtime: 0.035289 The old Minimals, which I kept, are still working on both computers. Thanks for suggestions, Jörg ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Am 29.04.2009 um 13:32 schrieb luigi scarso: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Yue Wang wrote: Hi, you'd better switch to powerpoint or keynote, as they're more powerful (easy to build fancy slides, and better transitions). Yue Wang well, at this point why not beamer of latex ? Jehova :) Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 14:35 schrieb R. Bastian: The \startchapter does not exist in my MinimalContex installation, but I hope one can include it. I dream from a world where people can whether they use MkII or MkIV and what's the date of their ConTeXt version. Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:24:01 +0200
Wolfgang Schuster scribit:
>
> Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
> >> I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter
> >> for my needs.
> >
> > \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
>
> is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use
> own values for author, date etc. in titles (which was possible
> in sectionworld)
>
> Wolfgang
>
The \startchapter does not exist in my MinimalContex installation, but
I hope one can include it.
Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params
one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and
the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all).
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Yue Wang wrote: > Hi, > > you'd better switch to powerpoint or keynote, as they're more powerful > (easy to build fancy slides, and better transitions). > > Yue Wang > well, at this point why not beamer of latex ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Hi, you'd better switch to powerpoint or keynote, as they're more powerful (easy to build fancy slides, and better transitions). Yue Wang On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello everybody, > > What module can you suggest to create promo presentation? > > Best, > Vyatcheslav > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Am 29.04.2009 um 11:59 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Hello everybody, What module can you suggest to create promo presentation? There is only one module for presentation, simpleslides (was taspresent), Hans use styles for his presentation which are not modules :) Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter
for my needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use
own values for author, date etc. in titles (which was possible
in sectionworld)
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Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug
Mojca Miklavec wrote: To beta? (Therefore I manually fixed the problem, but the change will be overwritten the next time you upload something, so let's hope that the next upload will be OK.) i'll fix the beta later today - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating the minimals: is something broken?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:10, Otared Kavian wrote: > Hi all, in particular Mojca, > > Since yesterday updating, or installing anew, the minimals via the CLI does > not work anymore. > The question is: is something broken or has the procedure changed? See the other mail "[NTG-context] Updating bug". Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:08, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Yanrui Li wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe it is related to the table of 'individual' in mtx-update.lua not
> >> being created.
> >>
> >> mtx-update.lua, line 266:
> >>
> >>individual[#individual+1] = { archive, destination }
> >
> > right, there should be a
> >
> >local individual = { }
> >
> > around line 165 or so ... i wonder what happened with it ... maybe mojca
> > remembers ...
>
> Line has been removed at the same time when you moved/added
> texmf-cache/local creation, so it must have been an accidental
> removal.
>
> > ok, i added it
>
> To beta? (Therefore I manually fixed the problem, but the change will
> be overwritten the next time you upload something, so let's hope that
> the next upload will be OK.)
>
> Mojca
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mer apr 29 11:59:54 CEST 2009
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Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:08, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it is related to the table of 'individual' in mtx-update.lua not
>> being created.
>>
>> mtx-update.lua, line 266:
>>
>> individual[#individual+1] = { archive, destination }
>
> right, there should be a
>
> local individual = { }
>
> around line 165 or so ... i wonder what happened with it ... maybe mojca
> remembers ...
Line has been removed at the same time when you moved/added
texmf-cache/local creation, so it must have been an accidental
removal.
> ok, i added it
To beta? (Therefore I manually fixed the problem, but the change will
be overwritten the next time you upload something, so let's hope that
the next upload will be OK.)
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[NTG-context] Updating the minimals: is something broken?
Hi all, in particular Mojca,
Since yesterday updating, or installing anew, the minimals via the CLI
does not work anymore. Here is the output I get:
% begining of the transcript
MacKavian:context-minimal kavian$ sh first-setup.sh
receiving file list ... done
sent 37 bytes received 132 bytes 48.29 bytes/sec
total size is 5787294 speedup is 34244.34
MTXrun | fileio: variable SELFAUTOLOC set to /Volumes/OK-10.4/context-
minimal/bin
MTXrun | fileio: variable SELFAUTODIR set to /Volumes/OK-10.4/context-
minimal
MTXrun | fileio: variable SELFAUTOPARENT set to /Volumes/OK-10.4
MTXrun | fileio: variable TEXMFCNF set to {$SELFAUTODIR,
$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}
MTXrun | fileio: no cnf files found (TEXMFCNF may not be set/known)
MTXrun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.lua
MTXrun | state: loaded
MTXrun | update: start
./bin/mtx-update.lua:266: attempt to get length of global
'individual' (a nil value)
% end of the transcript
(My own installation and update works fine but when I wanted to
install the minimals on a friend's machine, I noticed the above
strange behaviour).
The question is: is something broken or has the procedure changed?
Thanks in advance: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some
betas before).
removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc.
Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year...
In 2008-08 Hans still wrote he wouldn't know if he would extend the
sectionworld in MkIV.
The discussion about \startsection ... \stopsection was in 2007!
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my
needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
\stopchapter
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Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug
Yanrui Li wrote:
if ok or not force then
+local fetched, individual, osplatform = { }, { }, os.currentplatform()
ok, i added it
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Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug
Yanrui Li wrote:
2009/4/28 Yanrui Li :
Linux x86:
sent 221 bytes received 975 bytes 265.78 bytes/sec
... ...
MTXrun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.lua
MTXrun | state: loaded
MTXrun | update: start
./bin/mtx-update.lua:266: attempt to get length of global 'individual'
(a nil value)
Maybe it is related to the table of 'individual' in mtx-update.lua not
being created.
mtx-update.lua, line 266:
individual[#individual+1] = { archive, destination }
right, there should be a
local individual = { }
around line 165 or so ... i wonder what happened with it ... maybe mojca
remembers ...
Hans
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