[NTG-context] How can I force ConTeXt to display my footnote on the same page as my foot note marker?

[ai2472206007]

Hi,

I have a document that contains a lot of footnotes. 
Therefore, I used to separate the footnote number from the footnote text, 
which would make the source file look more readable.

Therefore, I used a similar approach to 'CASE 1', but not 'CASE 2' , 
placing footnotes related to the previous paragraphs every few paragraphs. 
But when I was generating a PDF,
 I found that the footnote didn't always appear on the same page as its 
footnote number, 
even though the footnote had very little text.

What can I do to get my idea to work?

Thanks for any suggestions.

 Muyik.


% The above text was translated through Bing 
% because I am not a native English speaker. 
% If there is anything unclear, whatever it is, tell me.

%%
\setuppapersize[A6]
\starttext

% case 1

\input knuthmath \note[1]

\input knuthmath \note[2]
\input knuthmath 
\input knuthmath

\footnotetext[1]{\input knuthmath }
\footnotetext[2]{\input knuth } 

% In this case, the text of footnotes 1 and 2 is placed on the same page, 
% but they are separated from the footnote numbers on different pages

\page

% case 2

\input knuthmath \note[1]
\footnotetext[1]{\input knuthmath }

\input knuthmath \note[2]
\input knuthmath 
\input knuthmath

\footnotetext[2]{\input knuth }

% Maybe this situation might get what I wanted, but after all, 
% footnotes are not as important as the main text, 
% and working on the footnotes while writing the main text may not be the right 
way for me

\stoptext
%%
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[NTG-context] Re: correcting Wikipedia

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/26/2024 3:27 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

On 7/25/24 21:56, Willi Egger wrote:

Hi Pablo,

thanks for making this correction, a pebble to improve Wikipedia…


Hi Willi,

I was more interested in not attributing ConTeXt to other person than
fixing Wikipedia as first intention.

That being said, it surprises me that so (relatively) many LaTeX users
know ConTeXt only by name.
That's all relative, isn't it? I know that msword exists and have seen 
it open but would be in trial and error mode as user. I simply never had 
a need for it. And I only used latex for one document decades ago, 
wrapped it into soem macros, and then moved on so basically I only know 
it by name.


That said, one can recognize anything tex by the backslash and curly 
braces (and editors etc highlighting helps). So I can recognize latex 
(with 99% accuracy when no commands similar to context are used) but 
then I'd need to buy and read a couple of few thousand page companions 
to get a moderate complex document done. I'm sure that doesn't surprise 
Willi.


Last context (and bacrhotex) meeting Harald played this 'can you 
recognize this language' game with the audience. One has to be real old 
(or curious and collecting languages) to be among the winners.


It's all about 'need to use something' and the definition of 'knowing'. 
I can recognize a tree but name a few.


Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: correcting Wikipedia

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 7/25/24 21:56, Willi Egger wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> thanks for making this correction, a pebble to improve Wikipedia…

Hi Willi,

I was more interested in not attributing ConTeXt to other person than
fixing Wikipedia as first intention.

That being said, it surprises me that so (relatively) many LaTeX users
know ConTeXt only by name.

Pablo

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[NTG-context] Re: correcting Wikipedia

[Willi Egger]

Hi Pablo,

thanks for making this correction, a pebble to improve Wikipedia…

Willi

> On 25 Jul 2024, at 18:19, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear list,
> 
> just by accident, I discovered that the English Wikipedia had attributed
> ConTeXt to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Hagen (a German computer
> science professor).
> 
> I corrected this info and also removed the internal links to that
> article that belong to “our” Hans (Hagen).
> 
> Just in case the wording may be improved, I wrote (reprashing a previous
> sentence and adding two links to pages with photo):
> 
> (Prof. Dr.) Hans Hagen is not to be confused with Hans Hagen, the author
> of the ConTeXt macro package for the TeX typesetting system.[5]
> 
> [5] ConTeXt’s author comes from the Netherlands (he is a digital
> typographer, no academic). In any case, German Hans Hagen and Dutch Hans
> Hagen are clearly not the same individual.
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Pablo
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[NTG-context] correcting Wikipedia

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

Dear list,

just by accident, I discovered that the English Wikipedia had attributed
ConTeXt to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Hagen (a German computer
science professor).

I corrected this info and also removed the internal links to that
article that belong to “our” Hans (Hagen).

Just in case the wording may be improved, I wrote (reprashing a previous
sentence and adding two links to pages with photo):

(Prof. Dr.) Hans Hagen is not to be confused with Hans Hagen, the author
of the ConTeXt macro package for the TeX typesetting system.[5]

[5] ConTeXt’s author comes from the Netherlands (he is a digital
typographer, no academic). In any case, German Hans Hagen and Dutch Hans
Hagen are clearly not the same individual.

Many thanks in advance,

Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: Emacs and spell check

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

I came across https://github.com/PillFall/languagetool.el, which also
checks grammar.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 2:09 AM Shiv Shankar Dayal <
shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Peter,
>
> Thanks. I tried and it works pretty well.
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 1:44 AM Peter Münster  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 25 2024, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote:
>>
>> > Can you please share your Emacs config for this?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use hunspell. Works very nicely:
>>
>> (setq-default ispell-program-name "hunspell")
>>
>> --
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[NTG-context] Re: How to hide any content?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 25.07.24 um 10:41 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:




On 25 Jul 2024, at 10:29, Joel via ntg-context  wrote:

I have a strange issue with some macros that are creating extra spaces between 
paragraphs. Note these macros shouldn’t create any content, as they define 
content that will be sent to registers and content that is used for page 
references. Its more like invisible data, perhaps the word is “metadata” and 
other parts of the document need to know it and refer to it, but nothing should 
be rendered there.


You will have to post a true minimal example including the correct definition 
of one of your macros.


Besides that, try a % at the end of each line of your macro and a comma 
after each setting.


Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: How to hide any content?

[Taco Hoekwater]

> On 25 Jul 2024, at 10:29, Joel via ntg-context  wrote:
> 
> I have a strange issue with some macros that are creating extra spaces 
> between paragraphs. Note these macros shouldn’t create any content, as they 
> define content that will be sent to registers and content that is used for 
> page references. Its more like invisible data, perhaps the word is “metadata” 
> and other parts of the document need to know it and refer to it, but nothing 
> should be rendered there.

You will have to post a true minimal example including the correct definition 
of one of your macros. 

Best wishes,
Taco

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[NTG-context] How to hide any content?

[Joel via ntg-context]

 
I have a strange issue with some macros that are creating extraspaces between 
paragraphs. Note these macros shouldn’t create anycontent, as they define 
content that will be sent to registers andcontent that is used for page 
references. Its more like invisibledata, perhaps the word is “metadata” and 
other parts of thedocument need to know it and refer to it, but nothing should 
berendered there.



 As best as I canunderstand, when ConTeXt sees one of these macros, it creates 
avertical space after the paragraph, draws nothing, then createsanother 
vertical space after that, before drawing the next paragraph,so the result is 
something close to three lines of space. Whenappearing after a section title, 
its also as if there is an emptyline, then blank space, then the first 
paragraph of content appears.
Sample of what the rendered document looks like:

-
Section Title
.<--if the macro is placed here, a huge empty space after thesection title is 
there 

.<-- I’m using these dots to represent empty lines

Loremipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmodtempor 
incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minimveniam, quis 
nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip exea commodo consequat. 
Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit involuptate velit esse cillum dolore eu 
fugiat nulla pariatur.Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in 
culpa quiofficia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.\mymacro{}<--even ifthe 
macro is placed here, still in the paragraph, it creates a break

.

.<--the macro appears here, there is an empty space above and before

.

Loremipsum odor amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Imperdiet 
suspendisseporttitor tempus arcu turpis cras posuere varius. Volutpat 
posueresemper nunc metus fermentum egestas? Aenean diam nisl tortor 
fuscefacilisis hendrerit dolor penatibus. Lectus interdum platea rhoncusat leo; 
ut mi duis. Nisi vehicula morbi curabitur mus urna sodalessuspendisse sodales. 
Viverra inceptos sem aenean ultricies congueligula condimentum maecenas. 
Convallis in elementum risus nec tacitibibendum faucibus ac nascetur. Nulla 
ligula auctor placerat dignissiminceptos. Felis nulla quam viverra augue 
maximus hendrerit ipsum.
. <--where the macro doesn’t appear, the spacing between paragraphs isfine 
(here, no macro, so one line of empty space, not three)

Loremipsum odor amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Turpis himenaeosconubia 
neque fringilla neque class. Elementum per fermentum nostraullamcorper lacinia 
tortor pellentesque facilisis. Himenaeos sociosqutellus aptent rhoncus 
dignissim himenaeos aliquam? Nisi sagittiseuismod tincidunt penatibus eget 
tristique? Sed nam elit sapientellus mus libero. Consectetur nascetur nec metus 
pretium hacmolestie. Convallis lacinia quam efficitur convallis; metus 
purusaliquet.



-




I’ve analyzed themacros carefully, even rebuilt them. Yet, no matter my 
attempts torecreate and rewrite the code from scratch, they always create 
thisvertical space. They shouldn’t create any content, nor should anyevidence 
of their existence be visible to readers.




I’ve tried formonths to find a way to hide these macros, rewriting the code 
itselfmany times, as I can’t see any reason why its creating anything atall, 
and also trying to find ways to hide the “blank” contentthat gets rendered:




\starteffect[hidden]\mymacro{}\stopeffect

\color[white]{\mymacro}

\setbox\scratchbox=\vbox{\mymacro}
\startnointerference\mymacro\stopnointerference
\inmargin{\mymacro}



Thesesolutions either entirely don’t remove the extra page break, orlead to the 
actual content within breaking: for instance, if there’san \index{} entry 
inside the macro, its page number won’t renderproperly in the end-of-document 
index. Or if there’s a \reference,other code attempting to display the page 
number just shows “page,??”.




Isthere a way to completely hide content, such that nothing at all isrendered 
on the page and nothing occupies extra blank space, but thatdoesn’t brak 
indexes, cross-references, registers, etc.?




--Joel

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[NTG-context] Re: Emacs and spell check

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

Dear Peter,

Thanks. I tried and it works pretty well.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 1:44 AM Peter Münster  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 25 2024, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote:
>
> > Can you please share your Emacs config for this?
>
> Hi,
>
> I use hunspell. Works very nicely:
>
> (setq-default ispell-program-name "hunspell")
>
> --
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[NTG-context] Re: Emacs and spell check

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, Jul 25 2024, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote:

> Can you please share your Emacs config for this?

Hi,

I use hunspell. Works very nicely:

(setq-default ispell-program-name "hunspell")

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[NTG-context] Emacs and spell check

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

Hi,

Does anyone use Emacs with ConTeXt with spell check? Can you please share
your Emacs config for this?

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[NTG-context] Re: MetaPost background

[alan . caruanambom]

The frame is only for reference, what I need is that the background is not 
wider than or higher than the frame, changing the coordinates of the points can 
be done but I remember seeing an example in which using "shifted" it could be 
done move to a corner, without worrying about the coordinates or point size

\startuseMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}
fill unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth, OverlayHeight) withcolor "gray" ;

w := MakeupWidth;
h := OverlayHeight;

draw (0,0)--(w,0) withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;
draw (0,h)--(w,h) withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;

drawdot (0,0) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red;
drawdot (w,h) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay
  [fullheightbackground]
  [\useMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}]

\setupframedtexts
  [background=fullheightbackground,
   backgroundoffset=0pt,
   frame=off]

\starttext

\startframedtext[width=\textwidth,align=left]
\input knuth
\stopframedtext

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: MetaPost background

[Wolfgang Schuster]

alan.caruanam...@gmail.com schrieb am 23.07.2024 um 20:29:

Hello, I need the background (lines and points) to be inside (tangent) of the 
frame, I don't know how to do it

\startuseMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}
 fill unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth, OverlayHeight) withcolor "gray" ;

 w := MakeupWidth;
 h := OverlayHeight;

 draw (0,0)--(MakeupWidth,0) withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;
 draw (0,OverlayHeight)--(MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight) withpen pencircle 
scaled 2pt withcolor green;


Add offset value to the horizontal/vertical dimensions.


    draw (0,1pt+OverlayLineWidth)--(MakeupWidth,1pt+OverlayLineWidth) 
withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;
    draw 
(0,OverlayHeight-1pt-OverlayLineWidth)--(MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight-1pt-OverlayLineWidth) 
withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;




 drawdot (0,0) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red;
 drawdot (MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor 
red;


Set a bounding box size for the image to ensure the image isn't 
stretched to fill the available space.


    setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox;


\stopuseMPgraphic


Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: MetaPost background

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

If you change 

drawdot (0,0) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red;

into

drawdot (6pt,6pt) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red ;

you get what you want (at least for the red dot on the lower left corner).

Here 6pt = 2pt (with of the pen used for the frame) + 4pt (half the diameter of 
the pen used for the dot).

Best regards: Otared

> On 23 Jul 2024, at 20:29, alan.caruanam...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello, I need the background (lines and points) to be inside (tangent) of the 
> frame, I don't know how to do it
> 
> \startuseMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}
>fill unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth, OverlayHeight) withcolor "gray" ;
> 
>w := MakeupWidth;
>h := OverlayHeight;
> 
>draw (0,0)--(MakeupWidth,0) withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;
>draw (0,OverlayHeight)--(MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight) withpen pencircle 
> scaled 2pt withcolor green;
> 
>drawdot (0,0) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red;
>drawdot (MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor 
> red;
> \stopuseMPgraphic
> 
> \defineoverlay
>  [fullheightbackground]
>  [\useMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}]
> 
> \setupframedtexts
>  [background=fullheightbackground,
>   backgroundoffset=0pt,
>   frame=on]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startframedtext[width=\textwidth,align=left]
>\input knuth
> \stopframedtext
> 
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: About a pagination

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Fabrice Couvreur schrieb am 23.07.2024 um 08:57:

Hi,
I'm trying to get the same pagination as in the attached photos.


The images are missing.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: spacing in columns

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans van der Meer via ntg-context schrieb am 23.07.2024 um 11:36:

The first screenshot has its items neatly stacked and  is made with
\startsimplecolumns[n=2]
\placenotes[endnote]
\stopsimplecolumns




The second screenshot has its items wide apart and  is made with
\startcolumns[n=2,blank=1pt]


\startcolumns[n=2,grid=no,blank=1pt]

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] MetaPost background

[alan . caruanambom]

Hello, I need the background (lines and points) to be inside (tangent) of the 
frame, I don't know how to do it

\startuseMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}
fill unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth, OverlayHeight) withcolor "gray" ;

w := MakeupWidth;
h := OverlayHeight;

draw (0,0)--(MakeupWidth,0) withpen pencircle scaled 2pt withcolor green;
draw (0,OverlayHeight)--(MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight) withpen pencircle 
scaled 2pt withcolor green;

drawdot (0,0) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor red;
drawdot (MakeupWidth,OverlayHeight) withpen pencircle scaled 8pt withcolor 
red;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay
  [fullheightbackground]
  [\useMPgraphic{fullheightbackground}]

\setupframedtexts
  [background=fullheightbackground,
   backgroundoffset=0pt,
   frame=on]

\starttext

\startframedtext[width=\textwidth,align=left]
\input knuth
\stopframedtext

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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[Jean-Pierre Delange]

Thank you Wolfgang! I didn't know this detail, always considering this 
distinction between different folders for font types. I did know, 
however, that mtxrun now contains automatic routines with regard to 
pointing to the %win%/fonts path.


Le 22/07/2024 à 18:52, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Delange schrieb am 22.07.2024 um 12:29:
As Taco suggested, the best way to install new fonts on MS Windows 
(and other OSes) is to tell ConTeXt where they are located. On 
Windows, fonts are usually found in /Fonts. But you still need to 
purge the font cache and regenerate it so that the system can 
interact with ConTeXT. A safer method is to create separate 
directories, as indicated by Taco: 
/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data/urbanist. You can also distinguish 
between True Type fonts (ttf) and Open Type fonts (otf) by separating 
folders as follows: /tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/otf/ and 
/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/ttf/.


When you use context for a single user you can create a folder texmf 
in the users home directory and place all files in the subfolder 
fonts/data, e.g.


    C:\Users\...\texmf\fonts\data>

There is no need to make distinctions between the two file extension 
ttf and otf because they are meaningless because most truetype fonts 
are also opentype font.


Wolfgang


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[NTG-context] Re: spacing in columns

[Hans van der Meer via ntg-context]

\setupnote[footnote][n=2]
\setupnote[footnote][inbetween=,spaceinbetween=,]

Neither makes any difference, nor when footnote changed to endnote.


> On 23 Jul 2024, at 12:04, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Am 23.07.24 um 11:36 schrieb Hans van der Meer via ntg-context:
>> The first screenshot has its items neatly stacked and  is made with
>>  \startsimplecolumns[n=2]
>>  \placenotes[endnote]
>>  \stopsimplecolumns
>> The second screenshot has its items wide apart and  is made with
>>  \startcolumns[n=2,blank=1pt]
>>  \placenotes[endnote]
>>  \stopcolumns
>> Question: how do I get rid of the interline space in the last case.
>> Whatever I fill in for blank= doesn't make a difference, the output is 
>> always the same.
> 
> Did you try \setupnote[footnote][n=2] to get columns?
> 
> Did you try \setupnote[footnote][inbetween=,spaceinbetween=,]?
> (I didn’t check, trying footnote options is still on my todo list.)
> 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupnote
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: spacing in columns

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 23.07.24 um 11:36 schrieb Hans van der Meer via ntg-context:

The first screenshot has its items neatly stacked and  is made with
\startsimplecolumns[n=2]
\placenotes[endnote]
\stopsimplecolumns

The second screenshot has its items wide apart and  is made with
\startcolumns[n=2,blank=1pt]
\placenotes[endnote]
\stopcolumns

Question: how do I get rid of the interline space in the last case.
Whatever I fill in for blank= doesn't make a difference, the output is always 
the same.


Did you try \setupnote[footnote][n=2] to get columns?

Did you try \setupnote[footnote][inbetween=,spaceinbetween=,]?
(I didn’t check, trying footnote options is still on my todo list.)

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupnote

Hraban
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[NTG-context] spacing in columns

[Hans van der Meer via ntg-context]

The first screenshot has its items neatly stacked and  is made with
\startsimplecolumns[n=2]
\placenotes[endnote]
\stopsimplecolumns



The second screenshot has its items wide apart and  is made with
\startcolumns[n=2,blank=1pt]
\placenotes[endnote]
\stopcolumns


Question: how do I get rid of the interline space in the last case. 
Whatever I fill in for blank= doesn't make a difference, the output is always 
the same.

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[NTG-context] About a pagination

[Fabrice Couvreur]

Hi,
I'm trying to get the same pagination as in the attached photos. Using the
wiki and Wolfgang's codes I get something interesting but not very elegant
(\ACFRAME{}). Only, I don't see how to emphasize the title of each chapter
in the same way.
Thanks.
Fabrice

\startcomponent[essai]

\setuplayout
  [
backspace=28mm,
topspace=35mm,
width=140mm
  ]

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location=]

\setupbodyfont[pagella,11pt]

\mainlanguage[fr]

\setcharacterspacing
  [frenchpunctuation]

\startuseMPgraphic{acframeleft}
 fill OverlayBox
 leftenlarged (BackSpace)
 rightenlarged 5mm
 withcolor "lightgray";
 setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay
   [acframeleft]
   [\useMPgraphic{acframeleft}]


\defineframed
   [ACFRAMELEFT]
   [frame=off,
width=fit,
height=1ex,
background=acframeleft,
location=,
   ]

\startuseMPgraphic{acframeright}
 fill OverlayBox
 leftenlarged 5mm
 rightenlarged 42mm
 withcolor "lightgray";
 setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay
   [acframeright]
   [\useMPgraphic{acframeright}]


\defineframed
   [ACFRAMERIGHT]
   [frame=off,
width=fit,
height=1ex,
background=acframeright,
location=hanging,
   ]

\setupheader[style=\tfx]

\startsetups [header:leftpage]
\setuplabeltext
 [fr]
 [chapter=\tfx Chapitre]
 \ACFRAMERIGHT{}
 \hfill
 \labeltext{chapter} \getmarking[chapternumber] \getmarking[chapter]
\stopsetups

\startsetups [header:rightpage]
\getmarking[sectionnumber]
\space
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\ACFRAMERIGHT{}
\stopsetups

\setupheadertexts
 [\directsetup{header:rightpage}] [\prefixedpagenumber]
 [\prefixedpagenumber]  [\directsetup{header:leftpage}]



\defineframedtext
   [ChapterFrame]
   [frame=on,
width=local,
height=broad,
after={\blank[2*line]},
offset=0pt]


\startsetups [section:chapter]

\setuphead
   [chapter]
   [align=leftright,
textcommand=\groupedcommand{\blank[medium]}{},
numbercolor=,
textstyle=,
numberstyle=,
numbercommand=,
before=\startChapterFrame,
after=\stopChapterFrame,
header=nomarking]

\stopsetups

\startsectionblockenvironment [bodypart]
\directsetup{section:chapter}
\stopsectionblockenvironment

\doifmode{*component}{\directsetup{section:chapter}}

\setuplabeltext
   [fr]
   [chapter=\tf Chapitre\space]


\startchapter
  [title={Polynômes}]
  \startsection
[title={Forme réduite et identification}]
\dorecurse{6}{\input knuth}
  \stopsection
  \startsection
[title={Polynômes du second degré}]
  \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth}
  \stopsection
\stopchapter
\stopcomponent
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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Jean-Pierre Delange schrieb am 22.07.2024 um 12:29:
As Taco suggested, the best way to install new fonts on MS Windows 
(and other OSes) is to tell ConTeXt where they are located. On 
Windows, fonts are usually found in /Fonts. But you still need to 
purge the font cache and regenerate it so that the system can interact 
with ConTeXT. A safer method is to create separate directories, as 
indicated by Taco: /tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data/urbanist. You can also 
distinguish between True Type fonts (ttf) and Open Type fonts (otf) by 
separating folders as follows: /tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/otf/ and 
/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/ttf/.


When you use context for a single user you can create a folder texmf in 
the users home directory and place all files in the subfolder 
fonts/data, e.g.


    C:\Users\...\texmf\fonts\data>

There is no need to make distinctions between the two file extension ttf 
and otf because they are meaningless because most truetype fonts are 
also opentype font.


Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[Jean-Pierre Delange]

As Taco suggested, the best way to install new fonts on MS Windows (and 
other OSes) is to tell ConTeXt where they are located. On Windows, fonts 
are usually found in /Fonts. But you still need to purge the font cache 
and regenerate it so that the system can interact with ConTeXT. A safer 
method is to create separate directories, as indicated by Taco: 
/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data/urbanist. You can also distinguish between 
True Type fonts (ttf) and Open Type fonts (otf) by separating folders as 
follows: /tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/otf/ and /tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/ttf/.
Then, of course, you need to regenerate the cache and test support for 
the newly installed font with the following commands:

1) mtxrun --script cache --erase && mtxrun --generate
2) mtxrun --script fonts --reload
3) Search for a specific font:

mtxrun --script fonts --list --pattern=urbanist --all

Le 22/07/2024 à 12:00, alan.caruanam...@gmail.com a écrit :

In which directory did you save the fonts? I saved them in %windir%\fonts and 
it doesn't work
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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[alan . caruanambom]

Thanks, that was what I needed... Could you review my code, I don't understand 
much about loading external sources
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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[alan . caruanambom]

In which directory did you save the fonts? I saved them in %windir%\fonts and 
it doesn't work
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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[Jean-Pierre Delange]

You can try this :

|mtxrun --script cache --erase && mtxrun --generate|

Le 22/07/2024 à 11:39, alan.caruanam...@gmail.com a écrit :

Yes, I do, This is the log file


system  >
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2024.06.21 23:45 LMTX  fmt: 2024.7.22  int: 
english/english
system  >
system  > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source> level 1, order 1, name 
'C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > files > jobname '.\\sample', input '.\\sample.tex', result 
'.\\sample'
fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages   > language 'en' is active
open source > level 1, order 2, name 'sample.tex'
fonts   > bodyfont '15pt' is defined (can better be done global (maybe 
use \usebodyfont)
fonts   > preloading modern (math)
fonts   > 'fallback modern mm 15pt' is loaded
fonts   > preloading modern (mono)
fonts   > 'fallback modern tt 15pt' is loaded
fonts   > defining > forced type 'otf' of 'urbanist-regular' not found
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'urbanist-regular.otf' as 
'urbanist-15pt-ss-tf-0--0'
open source > level 2, order 3, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 3, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 4, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 4, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 5, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 5, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 6, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
close source> level 2, order 6, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 7, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 7, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 8, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 8, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 9, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 2, userpage 2, subpage 2
close source> level 2, order 9, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 10, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 10, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 11, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 3, userpage 3, subpage 3
close source> level 2, order 11, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 12, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 12, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 4, userpage 4, subpage 4
fonts   > defining > font with asked name 'urbanist-italic.otf' is not 
found using lookup 'name'
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'urbanist-italic.otf' as 
'urbanist-15pt-ss-it-0--0'
open source > level 2, order 13, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 13, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 14, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 14, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 15, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 15, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 16, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 5, userpage 5, subpage 5
close source> level 2, order 16, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 17, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 17, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 18, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 18, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 19, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 6, userpage 6, subpage 6
close source> level 2, order 19, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 20, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 20, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 21, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 7, userpage 7, subpage 7
close source> level 2, order 21, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 22, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 22, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 8, userpage 8, subpage 8
fonts   > defining > font with asked name 'urbanist-bold.otf' is not 
found using lookup 'name'
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'urbanist-bold.otf' as 
'urbanist-15pt-ss-bf-0--0'
open source > level 2, order 23, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 23, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 24, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 24, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 25, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 25, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 26, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 9, userpage 9, subpage 9
close source> level 2, order 26, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 27, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 27, name 'knuth.tex'
open source

[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[Taco Hoekwater]

Here is what I did (and it worked)

* clone the repo
* mkdir [context root]/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data/urbanist
* copy the *.otfs there
* mtxrun —generate
* fix 3 errors in your typescript (“name:” => “file:”)
* done

(for Hraban: mtxrun —scripts fonts —reload will run automatically if a font 
cannot be found)


> On 22 Jul 2024, at 10:33, alan.caruanam...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello, I was trying to install the urbanist fonts 
> (https://github.com/coreyhu/Urbanist) but I couldn't get it to load and save 
> the fonts in the system folder and in the ConTeXt folder without success, I 
> could only get it to load when saving them in the current working directory 
> but that is annoying, help me by telling me the correct way to install it... 
> I leave you my code so you can review it and give me advice to improve it
> 
> \starttypescript [sans] [urbanist]
>\definefontsynonym 
> [Urbanist][file:urbanist-regular.otf*default][features=default]
>\definefontsynonym 
> [UrbanistItalic][name:urbanist-italic.otf*default][features=default]
>\definefontsynonym 
> [UrbanistBold][name:urbanist-bold.otf*default][features=default]
>\definefontsynonym 
> [UrbanistBoldItalic][name:urbanist-bolditalic.otf*default][features=default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript [sans] [urbanist]
>\definefontsynonym [Sans][Urbanist][features=default]
>\definefontsynonym [SansItalic][UrbanistItalic][features=default]
>\definefontsynonym [SansBold][UrbanistBold][features=default]
>\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic][UrbanistBoldItalic][features=default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \definetypeface[urbanist][ss][sans][urbanist][default]
> 
> \setupbodyfont[urbanist,30pt]
> 
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{100}{\bf \input knuth \crlf}
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[alan . caruanambom]

Yes, I do, This is the log file


system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2024.06.21 23:45 LMTX  fmt: 2024.7.22  int: 
english/english
system  > 
system  > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source> level 1, order 1, name 
'C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > files > jobname '.\\sample', input '.\\sample.tex', result 
'.\\sample'
fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages   > language 'en' is active
open source > level 1, order 2, name 'sample.tex'
fonts   > bodyfont '15pt' is defined (can better be done global (maybe 
use \usebodyfont)
fonts   > preloading modern (math)
fonts   > 'fallback modern mm 15pt' is loaded
fonts   > preloading modern (mono)
fonts   > 'fallback modern tt 15pt' is loaded
fonts   > defining > forced type 'otf' of 'urbanist-regular' not found
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'urbanist-regular.otf' as 
'urbanist-15pt-ss-tf-0--0'
open source > level 2, order 3, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 3, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 4, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 4, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 5, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 5, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 6, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
close source> level 2, order 6, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 7, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 7, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 8, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 8, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 9, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 2, userpage 2, subpage 2
close source> level 2, order 9, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 10, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 10, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 11, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 3, userpage 3, subpage 3
close source> level 2, order 11, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 12, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 12, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 4, userpage 4, subpage 4
fonts   > defining > font with asked name 'urbanist-italic.otf' is not 
found using lookup 'name'
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'urbanist-italic.otf' as 
'urbanist-15pt-ss-it-0--0'
open source > level 2, order 13, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 13, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 14, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 14, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 15, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 15, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 16, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 5, userpage 5, subpage 5
close source> level 2, order 16, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 17, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 17, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 18, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 18, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 19, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 6, userpage 6, subpage 6
close source> level 2, order 19, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 20, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 20, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 21, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 7, userpage 7, subpage 7
close source> level 2, order 21, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 22, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 22, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 8, userpage 8, subpage 8
fonts   > defining > font with asked name 'urbanist-bold.otf' is not 
found using lookup 'name'
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'urbanist-bold.otf' as 
'urbanist-15pt-ss-bf-0--0'
open source > level 2, order 23, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 23, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 24, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 24, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 25, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 25, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 26, name 'knuth.tex'
pages   > flushing realpage 9, userpage 9, subpage 9
close source> level 2, order 26, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 27, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 27, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 28, name 'knuth.tex'
close source> level 2, order 28, name 'knuth.tex'
open source > level 2, order 29, name 

[NTG-context] Re: Install urbanist fonts

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 22.07.24 um 10:33 schrieb alan.caruanam...@gmail.com:

Hello, I was trying to install the urbanist fonts 
(https://github.com/coreyhu/Urbanist) but I couldn't get it to load and save 
the fonts in the system folder and in the ConTeXt folder without success, I 
could only get it to load when saving them in the current working directory but 
that is annoying, help me by telling me the correct way to install it... I 
leave you my code so you can review it and give me advice to improve it


Did you update the font cache?
mtxrun --script font --reload

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Install urbanist fonts

[alan . caruanambom]

Hello, I was trying to install the urbanist fonts 
(https://github.com/coreyhu/Urbanist) but I couldn't get it to load and save 
the fonts in the system folder and in the ConTeXt folder without success, I 
could only get it to load when saving them in the current working directory but 
that is annoying, help me by telling me the correct way to install it... I 
leave you my code so you can review it and give me advice to improve it

\starttypescript [sans] [urbanist]
\definefontsynonym 
[Urbanist][file:urbanist-regular.otf*default][features=default]
\definefontsynonym 
[UrbanistItalic][name:urbanist-italic.otf*default][features=default]
\definefontsynonym 
[UrbanistBold][name:urbanist-bold.otf*default][features=default]
\definefontsynonym 
[UrbanistBoldItalic][name:urbanist-bolditalic.otf*default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [urbanist]
\definefontsynonym [Sans][Urbanist][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic][UrbanistItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold][UrbanistBold][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic][UrbanistBoldItalic][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface[urbanist][ss][sans][urbanist][default]

\setupbodyfont[urbanist,30pt]

\starttext
\dorecurse{100}{\bf \input knuth \crlf}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: request for talk/article on writing modules

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/22/2024 9:17 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 22.07.24 um 09:10 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

Hi,


On 19 Jul 2024, at 17:06, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Hi wizards,
I’d really appreciate an introduction “how to write a ConTeXt module” 
at the meeting and in the next journal.


I’ll try to find some knowledgeable people for you.


Perhaps we can make it a workshop/discussion – take my new Chat module 
(because it’s not very involved module-wise) and discuss how to make it 
better (in the sense of a good ConTeXt citizen).

https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-chat

I can write a “lessons learned” article afterwards, if nobody else steps 
up.


you need to convince Wolfgang ...

Hans


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[NTG-context] Re: How to create a second bibliography?

[Joel via ntg-context]

 Thank you! Works perfectly! --Joel

On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 01:08:54 PM MDT, Aditya Mahajan 
 wrote:  
 
 On Sun, 21 Jul 2024, Joel via ntg-context wrote:

> My copy editor wants me to create a second bibliography for 
> photo/illustration references.
> I'm using basic code to make a bibliography:
> \usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
> 
> \usebtxdataset[default][~/Commons/sources.bib]
> 
> \setupbtx[dataset=default]
> \usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
> \setupbtx[sbl]
> 
> \starttext  \input knuth
>    \cite[authoryear]
> 
>     \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
>             \placelistofpublications
>         \stopchapter\stoptext
> 
> I know how to create custom lists and indexes, but not a bibliography list.
> 
> How do I point the image references to go to a different list, but still its 
> a bibliography?
> 
>     \startchapter[title=Image Credits]            \placelistofcredits     
>    \stopchapter

Here is one way to do it:

\startbuffer[dataset-1]
@Article{tag1,
    author = {A Author},
    title = {The title},
    year = {2024},
}
\stopbuffer

\startbuffer[dataset-2]
@Article{tag2,
    author = {B Author},
    title = {The second title},
    year = {2024},
}
\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[default][dataset-1.buffer]
\usebtxdataset[credits][dataset-2.buffer]

\usebtxdefinitions[aps]

\setupbtx[dataset=default]
\definebtxrendering[credits][aps][dataset=credits]

\starttext

\startsection[title=Test]

  Here is a fancy article \cite[tag1]. 

  Image credited to \cite[credits::tag2].

\stopsection

\startsection[title=References]
  \placelistofpublications
\stopsection

\startsection[title=Image credits]
  \placelistofpublications[credits]
\stopsection


\stoptext


If you want credits to have a separate numbering, use:

\definebtxrendering[credits][aps][dataset=credits,group=credits]

(all renderings with the same group share the same numbering).

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[NTG-context] Re: request for talk/article on writing modules

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 22.07.24 um 09:10 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

Hi,


On 19 Jul 2024, at 17:06, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Hi wizards,
I’d really appreciate an introduction “how to write a ConTeXt module” at the 
meeting and in the next journal.


I’ll try to find some knowledgeable people for you.


Perhaps we can make it a workshop/discussion – take my new Chat module 
(because it’s not very involved module-wise) and discuss how to make it 
better (in the sense of a good ConTeXt citizen).

https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-chat

I can write a “lessons learned” article afterwards, if nobody else steps up.

Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: request for talk/article on writing modules

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

> On 19 Jul 2024, at 17:06, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Hi wizards,
> I’d really appreciate an introduction “how to write a ConTeXt module” at the 
> meeting and in the next journal.

I’ll try to find some knowledgeable people for you.

Best wishes,
Taco
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[NTG-context] Re: How to create a second bibliography?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024, Joel via ntg-context wrote:

> My copy editor wants me to create a second bibliography for 
> photo/illustration references.
> I'm using basic code to make a bibliography:
> \usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
> 
> \usebtxdataset[default][~/Commons/sources.bib]
> 
> \setupbtx[dataset=default]
> \usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
> \setupbtx[sbl]
> 
> \starttext  \input knuth
>    \cite[authoryear]
> 
>     \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
>             \placelistofpublications
>         \stopchapter\stoptext
> 
> I know how to create custom lists and indexes, but not a bibliography list.
> 
> How do I point the image references to go to a different list, but still its 
> a bibliography?
> 
>     \startchapter[title=Image Credits]            \placelistofcredits     
>    \stopchapter

Here is one way to do it:

\startbuffer[dataset-1]
@Article{tag1,
author = {A Author},
title = {The title},
year = {2024},
}
\stopbuffer

\startbuffer[dataset-2]
@Article{tag2,
author = {B Author},
title = {The second title},
year = {2024},
}
\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[default][dataset-1.buffer]
\usebtxdataset[credits][dataset-2.buffer]

\usebtxdefinitions[aps]

\setupbtx[dataset=default]
\definebtxrendering[credits][aps][dataset=credits]

\starttext

\startsection[title=Test]

  Here is a fancy article \cite[tag1]. 

  Image credited to \cite[credits::tag2].

\stopsection

\startsection[title=References]
  \placelistofpublications
\stopsection

\startsection[title=Image credits]
  \placelistofpublications[credits]
\stopsection


\stoptext


If you want credits to have a separate numbering, use:

\definebtxrendering[credits][aps][dataset=credits,group=credits]

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[NTG-context] How to create a second bibliography?

[Joel via ntg-context]

My copy editor wants me to create a second bibliography for photo/illustration 
references.
I'm using basic code to make a bibliography:
\usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]

\usebtxdataset[default][~/Commons/sources.bib]

\setupbtx[dataset=default]
\usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
\setupbtx[sbl]

\starttext  \input knuth
   \cite[authoryear]

    \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
            \placelistofpublications
        \stopchapter\stoptext

I know how to create custom lists and indexes, but not a bibliography list.

How do I point the image references to go to a different list, but still its a 
bibliography?

    \startchapter[title=Image Credits]            \placelistofcredits       
 \stopchapter
--Joel

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[NTG-context] TUG 2024: Hàn Thế Thành talk just now

[luigi scarso]

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[NTG-context] spreadsheet module

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi, I checked the spreadsheet module for the first time (in my own 
invoices I do everything in Lua and don’t need it).


In the attached example, I setup a decimal comma, as usual in German:
\setupspreadsheet[rechnung][
period={,}, comma={\,}, split=yes]

Unfortunately, this also replaces all dots in the text strings.

Is there a workaround (beside using \getspr in a “real” table)?

Apparently, \startrow or \startcell don’t understand the period setting.

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: Anyone working on a treesitter grammar?

[Paul Mazaitis]

On 4 Jul 2024, at 15:22, juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> no mention here https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/ and searching for 
> treesitter on the Wiki gives no match?

A ha! You are correct; it turns out all the references are under "tree-sitter" 
(hyphen included).

(I'm not familiar enough with the wiki to know if there's a way to include tags 
with pages so that searches can more easily find things? Frex, adding 
"treesitter" and "tree sitter" to the tree-sitter pages? We can always add a 
keywords stanza or something to the body text of the page...)

> Many texteditors have treesitter support builtin so having a ConTeXt grammar 
> would be nice.

In an attempt to make it easier to find, I've put references to the grammar I 
came up with on the Text Editors wiki page as well as on specific wiki pages 
for editors where I've been able to get support working.

(I'm taking a look at adding ConTeXt support to Zed, but all I'm getting for my 
troubles right now is a massive memory leak.)

> TIA
> juh

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[NTG-context] Re: list of used files

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hans provided me with a patch that allows
\enabledirectives[system.dumpfiles=json]

It will be in the next update, I guess.

I’m using it with the new tool "addtogit.py"
in https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-tools
to add all files that are necessary for a
ConTeXt job to the current git repository.

Of course I could have parsed the log file.

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[NTG-context] Re: list of used files

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 20.07.24 um 10:04 schrieb Hans Hagen:

subconscious you know the answer:

    look at the log file


Not only sub*; I forgot to mention I’d like to avoid parsing that.


of course you can also try

\enabledirectives[system.dumpfiles=lua]

and stare at the resulting job log file (jlg)


Thank you!

Now my downsampling bites me:

  {

["filename"]="…/img/m_k_i_v_Fenster_jpg_2ec2682ee73b38bbc98c6d1432bf1bcb.lowres.jpg",

["foundname"]="…/img/m_k_i_v_Fenster_jpg_2ec2682ee73b38bbc98c6d1432bf1bcb.lowres.jpg",

["fullname"]="…/img/m_k_i_v_Fenster_jpg_2ec2682ee73b38bbc98c6d1432bf1bcb.lowres.jpg",
   ["usedmethod"]="direct",
  },

I can disable it:

  {
   ["filename"]="…/img/Fenster.jpg",
   ["foundname"]="…/img/Fenster.jpg",
   ["fullname"]="…/img/Fenster.jpg",
   ["usedmethod"]="direct",
  },

But images lack the "filetype" entry that other file types have, it 
would have been useful. But checking the file extension is good enough 
for my task.



Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: list of used files

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/20/2024 9:31 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Hi,

is there some mechanism (directive?) that gives me a list of files that 
were involved in making a PDF? Preferably only those outside of the 
texmf trees, but I could filter that myself.


(With "latexmk -recorder somelatexfile" I get the file list as a .fls 
file.)


My goal is to commit all used images to my git repo, while I often have 
a big collection of images that I didn’t use in the end and don’t need 
in the repo.

subconscious you know the answer:

   look at the log file

files are tagged with "start used files"

of course you can also try

\enabledirectives[system.dumpfiles=lua]

and stare at the resulting job log file (jlg)

(the default is xml but i noticed some empty entries in there ... a very 
old feature so i need to travel back in time now)


if files are missing let me know

Hans

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[NTG-context] list of used files

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi,

is there some mechanism (directive?) that gives me a list of files that 
were involved in making a PDF? Preferably only those outside of the 
texmf trees, but I could filter that myself.


(With "latexmk -recorder somelatexfile" I get the file list as a .fls file.)

My goal is to commit all used images to my git repo, while I often have 
a big collection of images that I didn’t use in the end and don’t need 
in the repo.


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[NTG-context] request for talk/article on writing modules

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi wizards,
I’d really appreciate an introduction “how to write a ConTeXt module” at 
the meeting and in the next journal.


* How does this namespace and setup stuff work?
* When does it make sense to use variables, macros or parameters?
* Should I use the namespace for internally used MP graphics, 
environments, buffers etc.?


I guess I can figure out most of it on my own, but I think we should 
have some easily understandable documentation.


Or do we already have something and I didn’t find it?

I can contribute the part about distribution.

Best, Hraban
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[NTG-context] TUG meeting live

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[NTG-context] Building OpenType math fonts

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https://github.com/notofonts/math/blob/main/documentation/building-math-fonts/index.md

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[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: expansion and variables

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 17.07.24 um 23:10 schrieb Hans Hagen:

\setevariable


Thank you, works!

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[NTG-context] Fwd: expansion and variables

[Hans Hagen]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] expansion and variables
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:10:23 +0200
From: Hans Hagen 
To: Henning Hraban Ramm 

On 7/17/2024 10:40 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Something’s wrong with my code.
I’ll try to keep a status to output a certain marker only the first time 
after a change. With the code below I get it never.


I guess it’s an expansion problem again, but I didn’t find the right 
places for \expanded – if I use it in front of every \getvariable, I get 
the output every time.


Please help…
Hraban


\setevariable



\setvariable{Thing}{Status}{1}
\setvariable{Thing}{PreviousStatus}{0}

\define[1]\startThing{
   \setvariable{Thing}{PreviousStatus}{\getvariable{Thing}{Status}}
   \setvariable{Thing}{Status}{#1}
   <<< %

\doifnot{\getvariable{Thing}{Status}}{\getvariable{Thing}{PreviousStatus}}{%
     \bold{\getvariable{Thing}{Status}}%
   }%
}

\def\stopThing{>>>\par}

\starttext

\startThing{A} a \stopThing
\startThing{B} b \stopThing
\startThing{A} c \stopThing
\startThing{C} d \stopThing
\startThing{C} e \stopThing
\startThing{A} f \stopThing
\startThing{A} g \stopThing
\startThing{A} h \stopThing

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[NTG-context] expansion and variables

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Something’s wrong with my code.
I’ll try to keep a status to output a certain marker only the first time 
after a change. With the code below I get it never.


I guess it’s an expansion problem again, but I didn’t find the right 
places for \expanded – if I use it in front of every \getvariable, I get 
the output every time.


Please help…
Hraban



\setvariable{Thing}{Status}{1}
\setvariable{Thing}{PreviousStatus}{0}

\define[1]\startThing{
  \setvariable{Thing}{PreviousStatus}{\getvariable{Thing}{Status}}
  \setvariable{Thing}{Status}{#1}
  <<< %

\doifnot{\getvariable{Thing}{Status}}{\getvariable{Thing}{PreviousStatus}}{%
\bold{\getvariable{Thing}{Status}}%
  }%
}

\def\stopThing{>>>\par}

\starttext

\startThing{A} a \stopThing
\startThing{B} b \stopThing
\startThing{A} c \stopThing
\startThing{C} d \stopThing
\startThing{C} e \stopThing
\startThing{A} f \stopThing
\startThing{A} g \stopThing
\startThing{A} h \stopThing

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[NTG-context] Re: Extra space in numbers

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/16/2024 10:32 AM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote:

Much thanks, Hans. I am curious why this is not default behavior?

if could be(come) but we're not sure how it affects existing documents

tex has not really a concept of space and in math even less but in 
luametatex we carry around some more info so there we can actually plug 
into that and act upon it, meaning that in


  1, 2

meaning

  atom(1) atom(,) atom(2)

in our case the middle one among other things knows that it was followed 
by a space or not. Also, in (1,2) one actually might want the space so 
soem additional (lua) processing can be enabled to deal with that too.


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[NTG-context] Re: Extra space in numbers

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

Much thanks, Hans. I am curious why this is not default behavior?

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 6:20 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 7/16/2024 7:01 AM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote:
> > Dear Lits,
> >
> > Suppose I have  $10,000$ then in the output there is extra space after
> > comma. How can I get rid of it?
> \setupmathematics[autopunctuation=yes]
>
> $10,000$
>
> $10, 000$
>
> no | yes | all | comma | {yes,semicolon} | {all,semicolon}
>
> see math manual for all kinds of control
>
> Hans
>
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[NTG-context] Re: [External] Extra space in numbers

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/16/2024 1:50 AM, Rogers, Michael K wrote:

Hi,
Braces around the comma, $10{,}000$, works for me. It’s the plain TeX 
way. If there’s a way to set up mathematics in ConTeXt to do this, 
perhaps someone else will fill us in.
in lmtx { } in math is just grouping, so no ordinary math atom is 
created; also, digits have their own class which is hoe we control 
inter-atom spacing


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[NTG-context] Re: Extra space in numbers

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/16/2024 7:01 AM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote:

Dear Lits,

Suppose I have  $10,000$ then in the output there is extra space after 
comma. How can I get rid of it?

\setupmathematics[autopunctuation=yes]

$10,000$

$10, 000$

no | yes | all | comma | {yes,semicolon} | {all,semicolon}

see math manual for all kinds of control

Hans


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[NTG-context] Re: mtxrun error with script pattern

[Marcus Vinicius Mesquita]

Thank you, Hans

The file mtx-patterns.lua you sent solved the problem

Regards

Marcus Vinicius

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 8:39 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:
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> On 7/16/2024 1:00 AM, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita wrote:
> > Dear List
> >
> > When using:
> >
> > mtxrun --script pattern --convert --path=./source --destination=./patterns
> >
> > with the file hyph-pt.tex v. 1.4 proposed by Leo Araujo and Aline Benevides,
> > (see: 
> > https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/pull/62/commits/79f4327c7c94c435cfcb73ea61c001a525fc818e)
> >
> > I got the following message:
> >
> > …
> > mtx-patterns| converting language pt, file hyph-pt
> > mtx-patterns| using tex file hyph-pt.txt
> > lua error : function call:
> > ...t/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-patterns.lua:331: bad
> > argument #1 to 'for iterator' (table expected, got string)
> >
> > I tried also using the old version 1.3 and got the same message.
> >
> > How can this error be corrected?
> > I'm using context version: 2024.06.21 23:45
> i'll send you a fix
>
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[NTG-context] Re: [External] Extra space in numbers

[Rogers, Michael K]

Hi,
Braces around the comma, $10{,}000$, works for me. It’s the plain TeX way. If 
there’s a way to set up mathematics in ConTeXt to do this, perhaps someone else 
will fill us in.

Michael

On Jul 15, 2024, at 10:01 PM, Shiv Shankar Dayal  
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Suppose I have  $10,000$ then in the output there is extra space after comma. 
How can I get rid of it?


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[NTG-context] Re: mtxrun error with script pattern

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/16/2024 1:00 AM, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita wrote:

Dear List

When using:

mtxrun --script pattern --convert --path=./source --destination=./patterns

with the file hyph-pt.tex v. 1.4 proposed by Leo Araujo and Aline Benevides,
(see: 
https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/pull/62/commits/79f4327c7c94c435cfcb73ea61c001a525fc818e)

I got the following message:

…
mtx-patterns| converting language pt, file hyph-pt
mtx-patterns| using tex file hyph-pt.txt
lua error : function call:
...t/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-patterns.lua:331: bad
argument #1 to 'for iterator' (table expected, got string)

I tried also using the old version 1.3 and got the same message.

How can this error be corrected?
I'm using context version: 2024.06.21 23:45

i'll send you a fix


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[NTG-context] Extra space in numbers

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

Dear Lits,

Suppose I have  $10,000$ then in the output there is extra space after
comma. How can I get rid of it?

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[NTG-context] mtxrun error with script pattern

[Marcus Vinicius Mesquita]

Dear List

When using:

mtxrun --script pattern --convert --path=./source --destination=./patterns

with the file hyph-pt.tex v. 1.4 proposed by Leo Araujo and Aline Benevides,
(see: 
https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/pull/62/commits/79f4327c7c94c435cfcb73ea61c001a525fc818e)

I got the following message:

…
mtx-patterns| converting language pt, file hyph-pt
mtx-patterns| using tex file hyph-pt.txt
lua error : function call:
...t/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-patterns.lua:331: bad
argument #1 to 'for iterator' (table expected, got string)

I tried also using the old version 1.3 and got the same message.

How can this error be corrected?
I'm using context version: 2024.06.21 23:45

Kind regards

Marcus Vinicius


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[NTG-context] Re: Zed editor

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a fabulous tool!
2024年7月15日 22:09, "luigi scarso" mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com?to=%22luigi%20scarso%22%20%3Cluigi.scarso%40gmail.com%3E)>
 写到:
https://zed.dev/ (https://zed.dev/)
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[NTG-context] Re: Zed editor

[Marcus Vinicius Mesquita]

Or bought and killed by Micro$oft as the Atom editor was in favor of a
Trojan horse editor…

Marcus Vinicius

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> Am 15.07.24 um 16:09 schrieb luigi scarso:
> >
> > https://zed.dev/ 
> >
> > It supports Tree-sitter.
>
> Looks interesting, and I’ll check it out, but they’re already including
> “AI” and collect the users’ data (even if you still can disable
> telemetry etc.). They’re private-equity owned, and these owners want to
> see profit (or at least marketable data) at some time.
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[NTG-context] Re: Zed editor

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 15.07.24 um 16:09 schrieb luigi scarso:


https://zed.dev/ 

It supports Tree-sitter.


Looks interesting, and I’ll check it out, but they’re already including 
“AI” and collect the users’ data (even if you still can disable 
telemetry etc.). They’re private-equity owned, and these owners want to 
see profit (or at least marketable data) at some time.


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[NTG-context] Zed editor

[luigi scarso]

https://zed.dev/

It supports Tree-sitter.

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[NTG-context] Context Journal: last call for articles / proofreaders wanted

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi all,

with the articles by Massimiliano and Willi, we have already more than 
40 pages, more would be welcome, but please deliver within the next two 
weeks (until end of July)!


I would appreciate the help of English native speakers for 
proofreading/editing, you could start immediately with the existing 
articles.


I’m very sorry that I procrastinated for too long, so that we’re now in 
a hurry to get the journal printed in time for the meeting.


Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[Thangalin]

Thanks vm!

Sadly, I have no way of telling the 4,000+ people who have downloaded my
Markdown editor how they ought to compose and typeset their prose.

I'll let Robert Bringhurst know, though, and ask him to change Rule 4.1.5
of his Elements of Typographic Style from "include the initial quotation
mark" to "rewrite your prose." ;-)

https://i.imgur.com/ne991lZ.jpeg

TX

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>
> On 11/07/2024 01:55, Thangalin wrote:
> >
> > Any other ideas?
>
> Yes, change/edit the text to avoid the quotation marks in the first place.
>
> e.g. There are always better/simpler ways to achieve the story to be
> told. Trace back to the underlying idea as why these drop capitals were
> invented in the first place. Most likely to visually separate blocs of
> mono colored bread text with the lead characters from the drawer below.
> These days there are (better) alternatives to solve the issue of
> separation text paragraphs.
>
>
> (avoiding a problem instead of trying to solve it afterwards)
>
> .F
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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[vm via ntg-context]

On 11/07/2024 01:55, Thangalin wrote:


Any other ideas?


Yes, change/edit the text to avoid the quotation marks in the first place.

e.g. There are always better/simpler ways to achieve the story to be 
told. Trace back to the underlying idea as why these drop capitals were 
invented in the first place. Most likely to visually separate blocs of 
mono colored bread text with the lead characters from the drawer below. 
These days there are (better) alternatives to solve the issue of 
separation text paragraphs.



(avoiding a problem instead of trying to solve it afterwards)

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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[Thangalin]

Hi again,

The output shows a closing red opening quotation mark, which is the
opposite of what I'd like to achieve. Using \quotation won't work in my
situation because the text mixes and matches numerous types of quotation
marks and the user is writing in Markdown. Matching against “ would work
for most cases; however, the quotation marks could include:

" -- straight quote
“ -- opening curly double quote
‘ -- opening curly single quote (or apostrophe)
« -- opening double quote (French, Spanish, etc.)
‹ -- opening single quote
「 -- opening Japanese quote

% SOT
\protected\def\typo_initial_handle_indeed#1#2%
   {\dontleavehmode
\begingroup
\cdef\currentinitial{#1}%
\setupcurrentinitial[#2]%
\resetfontfeature % might be needed in more places
\ifempty{\initialparameter\c!style}%
  \definedfont[\initialparameter\c!font]%
\else
  \useinitialstyleparameter\c!style
\fi
\ifempty{\initialparameter\c!color}%
  \c_attr_color   \attributeunsetvalue
  \c_attr_transparency\attributeunsetvalue
\else
  \useinitialcolorparameter\c!color
\fi}

\starttext
  \setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]
  \defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]

  \setupquotation[symcolor=red]

  \setinitial[two] Knuth   :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
  \setinitial[two] \symbol[leftquotation]Knuth\symbol[rightquotation]
:\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
\stoptext
% EOT

This produces:

https://i.ibb.co/P5hDLH5/opening-quote.png

What I'm looking to produce is:

https://i.ibb.co/6PPGxxY/opening-quote-small.png

Using \quotation instead of \symbol[leftquotation] or “ produces a red
closing quote:

https://i.ibb.co/VY1wqZ1/closing-quote-red.png

Any other ideas?

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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 17.06.24 um 18:36 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

Table floats split in odd places, independent of top/page/here location.

There’s always a first part, then some not-float text, then the other 
parts.


Even if the table would fit on two pages (with location=page), it always 
gets split into three.


Can I influence this anyhow?


Hans explained in today’s online meeting:

The float location "split" cannot be combined with other locations 
(here, top, bottom, page). "split" alone is like "here"; for "page", use


\startpostponing
\startplacetable[location=split]
\bTABLE
% long table
\eTABLE
\stopplacetable
\stoppostponing

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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/10/2024 10:56 AM, Thangalin wrote:

Thank you Hans.

That's pretty close. Is there a way to make the opening quotation mark 
smaller? Ideally, control the font and colour?


You can try this (patch):

\protected\def\typo_initial_handle_indeed#1#2%
  {\dontleavehmode
   \begingroup
   \cdef\currentinitial{#1}%
   \setupcurrentinitial[#2]%
   \resetfontfeature % might be needed in more places
   \ifempty{\initialparameter\c!style}%
 \definedfont[\initialparameter\c!font]%
   \else
 \useinitialstyleparameter\c!style
   \fi
   \ifempty{\initialparameter\c!color}%
 \c_attr_color   \attributeunsetvalue
 \c_attr_transparency\attributeunsetvalue
   \else
 \useinitialcolorparameter\c!color
   \fi
   ..


\starttext

\setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]

\defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]

\setupquotation[symcolor=red]

\setinitial[two] Knuth   :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
\setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth}  :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par

\stoptext


Cheers!

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mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:


On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote:
 >  From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel
 > like the "ConTeXt way":
 >
 > % SOT
 > \setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][
 >      style=\bfd,
 >      color=darkred,
 >      distance=0pt,
 > ]
 >
 > \unprotect
 > \define\quoteinitial{%
 >      \futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false%
 > }
 >
 > \define\quoteinitial_true{%
 >      \localmargintext[leftmargin]{“}%
 >      \expandafter\placeinitial%
 >      \gobbleoneargument%
 > }
 >
 > \let\quoteinitial_false\placeinitial
 > \protect
 >
 > \starttext
 >      \quoteinitial “We held ConTeXt in high esteem.”
\samplefile{bryson}
 >
 >      \quoteinitial We held ConTeXt in high esteem.  
\samplefile{bryson}

 > \stoptext
 > %EOT
 >
 > Any suggestions for how to improve it?
 >
 > See also: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148

 > >
\starttext

\setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]

\defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]

\setinitial[two]             Knuth   :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
\setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth}  :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par

\stoptext


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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[Thangalin]

Thank you Hans.

That's pretty close. Is there a way to make the opening quotation mark
smaller? Ideally, control the font and colour?

Cheers!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:25 AM Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote:
> >  From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel
> > like the "ConTeXt way":
> >
> > % SOT
> > \setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][
> >  style=\bfd,
> >  color=darkred,
> >  distance=0pt,
> > ]
> >
> > \unprotect
> > \define\quoteinitial{%
> >  \futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false%
> > }
> >
> > \define\quoteinitial_true{%
> >  \localmargintext[leftmargin]{“}%
> >  \expandafter\placeinitial%
> >  \gobbleoneargument%
> > }
> >
> > \let\quoteinitial_false\placeinitial
> > \protect
> >
> > \starttext
> >  \quoteinitial “We held ConTeXt in high esteem.” \samplefile{bryson}
> >
> >  \quoteinitial We held ConTeXt in high esteem.   \samplefile{bryson}
> > \stoptext
> > %EOT
> >
> > Any suggestions for how to improve it?
> >
> > See also: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148
> > 
> \starttext
>
> \setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]
>
> \defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]
>
> \setinitial[two] Knuth   :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
> \setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth}  :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
>
> \stoptext
>
>
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[NTG-context] Re: regular online meet-up

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Reminder: this is tonight!


I have questions about …
* table floats (is there a solution or workaround for the odd splitting 
behavior?),
* consecutive environments (can we know if this is the first or last of 
its kind in a series?)

* and a few details for documentation.

Would like to show my current solution to typesetting messenger chats 
and discuss how to make it better.


CU Hraban


Am 04.07.24 um 20:25 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

You’re invited to our regular online meet-up, this upcoming
Wednesday, July 10th, 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)

at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
(same, but shorter: https://u.mtxrun.eu/ctxmtg)

ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!

Do you have a subject that you’d like to talk about?

Looking forward to seeing you,
Hraban


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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote:
 From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel 
like the "ConTeXt way":


% SOT
\setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][
     style=\bfd,
     color=darkred,
     distance=0pt,
]

\unprotect
\define\quoteinitial{%
     \futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false%
}

\define\quoteinitial_true{%
     \localmargintext[leftmargin]{“}%
     \expandafter\placeinitial%
     \gobbleoneargument%
}

\let\quoteinitial_false\placeinitial
\protect

\starttext
     \quoteinitial “We held ConTeXt in high esteem.” \samplefile{bryson}

     \quoteinitial We held ConTeXt in high esteem.   \samplefile{bryson}
\stoptext
%EOT

Any suggestions for how to improve it?

See also: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148 


\starttext

\setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]

\defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]

\setinitial[two] Knuth   :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par
\setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth}  :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par

\stoptext


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[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

[Thangalin]

>From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel like
the "ConTeXt way":

% SOT
\setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][
style=\bfd,
color=darkred,
distance=0pt,
]

\unprotect
\define\quoteinitial{%
\futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false%
}

\define\quoteinitial_true{%
\localmargintext[leftmargin]{“}%
\expandafter\placeinitial%
\gobbleoneargument%
}

\let\quoteinitial_false\placeinitial
\protect

\starttext
\quoteinitial “We held ConTeXt in high esteem.” \samplefile{bryson}

\quoteinitial We held ConTeXt in high esteem.   \samplefile{bryson}
\stoptext
%EOT

Any suggestions for how to improve it?

See also: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148

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[NTG-context] Re: a different, but not zero, blank at the top of a page

[mf]

Found this solution:

\ifdim \pagetotal=0pt \blank[attop,force] \else \blank[normal] \fi



Il 09/07/24 15:02, mf ha scritto:

Hello,

I need advice on blanks at the start of a page.

Usually a blank is ignored when it's at the top of a page.

You can force it with \blank[...,force], but its value is the same as in 
the remainder of the text.


So, if the blank over a heading is 2 lines, forcing it at the top of the 
page produces 2 empty lines (not exactly, because TeX uses a glue at the 
top for line alignment, if I remember well).


What I need is a non zero blank at the top, to align the following text 
to the grid.


A solution could be checking whether we are at the top of the page, and 
choose the blank amount accordingly.

How can I make such a test?

Massi
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[NTG-context] Re: https://behdad.org/text2024/

[Hamid,Idris]

Thanks to Luigi for sharing this. See below:

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Date 7/9/2024 12:46:38 AM
Subject [NTG-context] Re: https://behdad.org/text2024/

** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender **

Am 09.07.24 um 07:13 schrieb luigi scarso:

https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbehdad.org%2Ftext2024%2F=05%7C02%7CIdris.Hamid%40ColoState.EDU%7C5a017dbd033b41b3f4bd08dc9fe37646%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638561046519292804%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=4NnZCXbIuU1Y3xhJNSh4qzUXu7hExrNCofW07XicGOQ%3D=0
 
>

A lot of stuff.

The author is quite opinionated against ConTeXt/LuaTeX, knows only the
HarfBuzz version and can’t appreciate an independent, complete OpenType
renderer, it seems.

There is so much wrong with that section of the survey one does not know where 
to begin.

Will follow Hans' lead and not waste time or energy on public engagement with 
such uncalled-for polemics.

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[NTG-context] a different, but not zero, blank at the top of a page

[mf]

Hello,

I need advice on blanks at the start of a page.

Usually a blank is ignored when it's at the top of a page.

You can force it with \blank[...,force], but its value is the same as in 
the remainder of the text.


So, if the blank over a heading is 2 lines, forcing it at the top of the 
page produces 2 empty lines (not exactly, because TeX uses a glue at the 
top for line alignment, if I remember well).


What I need is a non zero blank at the top, to align the following text 
to the grid.


A solution could be checking whether we are at the top of the page, and 
choose the blank amount accordingly.

How can I make such a test?

Massi
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[NTG-context] Re: https://behdad.org/text2024/

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/9/2024 8:46 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 09.07.24 um 07:13 schrieb luigi scarso:


https://behdad.org/text2024/ 

A lot of stuff.


The author is quite opinionated against ConTeXt/LuaTeX, knows only the 
HarfBuzz version and can’t appreciate an independent, complete OpenType 
renderer, it seems.
Different worlds, different audiences, different objectives so a waste 
of energy to discuss i guess.


I can only say that when we started with luatex there was nothing that 
fit the requirements (oriental tex sub project) so we decided to go the 
lua route and could always be amopng the first to support new stuff 
(color fonts, variable fonts, adaptations, etc). And I'm not even taling 
math in luametatex here.


But as said: we serve a different audience, not the applications and of 
course the tex community doesn't have the big-tech funding and resources 
so ... and we try to keep a low profile anyway.


Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: https://behdad.org/text2024/

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 09.07.24 um 07:13 schrieb luigi scarso:


https://behdad.org/text2024/ 

A lot of stuff.


The author is quite opinionated against ConTeXt/LuaTeX, knows only the 
HarfBuzz version and can’t appreciate an independent, complete OpenType 
renderer, it seems.


Hraban

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[NTG-context] https://behdad.org/text2024/

[luigi scarso]

https://behdad.org/text2024/

A lot of stuff.

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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[vm via ntg-context]

On 08/07/2024 16:25, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Try #1, it often works where \recurselevel fails.


That gives the intended numbers.
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[NTG-context] Re: index sort order (de)

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/7/2024 11:46 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Would any of the German users object to a change of the default?
Well, I'm sure that you can guess which german you need to convince for 
me to change it (apply a patch) without second thought.


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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 08.07.24 um 15:48 schrieb vm via ntg-context:

There is a reason that the \recurselevel do not work in this context;
all \recurselevel show up as zero


   {\bTABLE
    \dorecurse{100}{
    \bTR \bTD \recurselevel \eTD \bTD one \eTD \eTR
    \bTR \bTD two \eTD \bTD \recurselevel \eTD \eTR
    }
    \eTABLE}


Any hint?


Something about expansion and maybe buffers.

Try #1, it often works where \recurselevel fails.

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 08.07.24 um 14:39 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:




On 7 Jul 2024, at 19:34, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Am 07.07.24 um 20:22 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:

On 7 Jul 2024, at 10:51, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Also, is it possible to have different captions in first and other parts?

This previous thread might help.



Thank you, but that doesn’t fit my use case: In my ConTeXt book, there are many 
long tables of parameters. The caption says “Parameters of \setupsomething”, 
but I’d also give hints like “You can also use the parameters of \setupframed, 
see p.123.”. I’d like to have these hints only in the first caption, and 
they’re different for each table.

It’s not that important, I can move the text somewhere else, but often enough 
in ConTeXt there are obscure features for advanced stuff.


If I understand you correctly then this does what you want. It's a bit of a 
hack though.

\defineselector [caption] [max=2]

\starttext

\setupfloatsplitting [inbetween={\setupselector[caption][n=2]}]

\setupselector[caption][n=1]
\placetable[split]
   {\select{caption}
 {Parameters of \type{\setupsomething}. You can also use the parameters of 
\type{\setupframes}, see page. 123}
 {Parameters of \type{\setupsomething}.}
   }
   {\bTABLE
\dorecurse{100}{
\bTR \bTD One \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD One \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
}
\eTABLE}

\stoptext


Thank you, that’s a good idea. (Another mechanism in ConTeXt that I 
didn’t know and need to document…)


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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[vm via ntg-context]

On 08/07/2024 14:39, Bruce Horrocks wrote:

\defineselector [caption] [max=2]

\starttext

\setupfloatsplitting [inbetween={\setupselector[caption][n=2]}]

\setupselector[caption][n=1]
\placetable[split]
   {\select{caption}
 {Parameters of \type{\setupsomething}. You can also use the parameters of 
\type{\setupframes}, see page. 123}
 {Parameters of \type{\setupsomething}.}
   }
   {\bTABLE
\dorecurse{100}{
\bTR \bTD One \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD One \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
}
\eTABLE}

\stoptext



There is a reason that the \recurselevel do not work in this context;
all \recurselevel show up as zero


  {\bTABLE
   \dorecurse{100}{
   \bTR \bTD \recurselevel \eTD \bTD one \eTD \eTR
   \bTR \bTD two \eTD \bTD \recurselevel \eTD \eTR
   }
   \eTABLE}


Any hint?

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[NTG-context] Draw leftframe to a description

[Gerion Entrup]

Hi,

I want to typeset an "excurses" description that is marked with a leftframe. 
The problem is that it spans about multiple pages and has footnotes.

Here is an MWE:
```
%% -> mwe-framedtext.pdf
\defineframedtext[excursusbg][
frame=off,
leftframe=on,
rulethickness=1mm,
framecolor=blue,
toffset=0mm,  % there is an offset anyways
]

%% -> mwe-textbackground.pdf
% \definetextbackground[excursusbg] [
%   location=text,
%   background=color,
%   backgroundcolor=lightblue,
%   frame=on,
%   loffset=10cm,  % seems to have no impact
% ]

\definedescription[excursus][
text={Excursus:\ },
alternative=top,
headstyle=bold,
margin=1cm,
width=broad,
before={\startexcursusbg},
after={\stopexcursusbg},
]

\starttext

\input ward

\startexcursus[title={A Knuth extract}]

\input knuth

\stopexcursus

\input ward

\startexcursus[title={A much longer Knuth extract}]

\input knuth
Sometimes, sentences have footnotes\footnote{Some footnote}.

\input knuth
\input knuth

\stopexcursus

\stoptext
```
See the attached PDFs for the different results.

In principal, I would like the excurses typesetted like to solution with 
\defineframedtext. However, this does not work with pagebreaks.
Additionally, the leftframe is too long (it begins above the "Excursus" text). 
I tried toffset to let the leftframe begin exactly at the "Excurses" text 
without success.

The solution with \textbackground looks somewhat promising. It supports 
pagebreaks, but draws above footnotes and prints a small rectangle at the end 
of the excursus. I also didn't found a way to specify a leftframe only.
Also, loffset seems to have no effect, here.

Do I use the false environments? Do you know a better solution?

Gerion

mwe-textbackground.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


mwe-framedtext.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Bruce Horrocks]

> On 7 Jul 2024, at 19:34, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Am 07.07.24 um 20:22 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:
>>> On 7 Jul 2024, at 10:51, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also, is it possible to have different captions in first and other parts?
>> This previous thread might help.
>> 
> 
> Thank you, but that doesn’t fit my use case: In my ConTeXt book, there are 
> many long tables of parameters. The caption says “Parameters of 
> \setupsomething”, but I’d also give hints like “You can also use the 
> parameters of \setupframed, see p.123.”. I’d like to have these hints only in 
> the first caption, and they’re different for each table.
> 
> It’s not that important, I can move the text somewhere else, but often enough 
> in ConTeXt there are obscure features for advanced stuff.

If I understand you correctly then this does what you want. It's a bit of a 
hack though.

\defineselector [caption] [max=2]

\starttext

\setupfloatsplitting [inbetween={\setupselector[caption][n=2]}]

\setupselector[caption][n=1]
\placetable[split]
  {\select{caption}
{Parameters of \type{\setupsomething}. You can also use the parameters of 
\type{\setupframes}, see page. 123}
{Parameters of \type{\setupsomething}.}
  }
  {\bTABLE
   \dorecurse{100}{
   \bTR \bTD One \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
   \bTR \bTD One \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
}
\eTABLE}

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Quotation mark in drop caps

[Thangalin]

Hi list!

I have a three-part question.

First, when using \placeinitial, how would you detect whether the first
character is a quotation mark, and, if so, override the setupinitial to use
m=2?

Second, when using m=2 to capture a quotation mark, how would you change
the font size of only the quotation mark, leaving the font size for the
remaining characters the same?

Third, can this be accomplished using setupinitial alone? Such as:

\setupinitial[
  quotefont=\SmallerFont,
  quotecolour=\QuoteColour,
]

A few typographic examples of what I'd like to accomplish:

Re: https://i.ibb.co/7rJYBS6/initial-Matching-Quotes.gif
Re: https://i.ibb.co/Hz8v5w4/atlantips-drop-caps-and-quotation-marks-10.png

My understanding of what exists in ConTeXt:

\starttext
\startchapter
  % This detaches the quotation mark from the paragraph, which looks
strange.
  \placeinitial
  "We held ConTeXt in high esteem."
\stopchapter

\startchapter
  % This looks great.
  \placeinitial
  \input knuth
\stopchapter

\startchapter
  % I'd like to eliminate this next line.
  \setupinitial[m=2]

  % The quotation mark is a drop cap, albeit too big.
  \placeinitial
  "We held ConTeXt in high esteem."
\stopchapter

\startchapter
  % I'd like to eliminate this next line.
  \setupinitial[m=1]

  % The setups are reinitialized, which in theory should not be needed.
  \placeinitial
  \input knuth
\stopchapter
\stoptext

Here's how I'd like to typeset the document (using setupinitial alone):

\setupinitial[
  % When a quotation mark is detected, the given font is applied to it.
  quotefont=\SmallerFont,
  % Not necessary, but could be useful to other people?
  quotecolour=\QuoteColour,
]

\starttext
\startchapter
  % The quotation mark gets attached and applies the smaller font size.
  \placeinitial
  "We held ConTeXt in high esteem."
\stopchapter

\startchapter
  % Only captures the first letter, because no quotation mark is present.
  \placeinitial
  \input knuth
\stopchapter
\stoptext

Is this possible? If so, how?

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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 07.07.24 um 20:22 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:




On 7 Jul 2024, at 10:51, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Also, is it possible to have different captions in first and other parts?



This previous thread might help.



Thank you, but that doesn’t fit my use case: In my ConTeXt book, there 
are many long tables of parameters. The caption says “Parameters of 
\setupsomething”, but I’d also give hints like “You can also use the 
parameters of \setupframed, see p.123.”. I’d like to have these hints 
only in the first caption, and they’re different for each table.


It’s not that important, I can move the text somewhere else, but often 
enough in ConTeXt there are obscure features for advanced stuff.


Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Bruce Horrocks]

> On 7 Jul 2024, at 10:51, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Also, is it possible to have different captions in first and other parts?


This previous thread might help.


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[NTG-context] Re: documenting itemize specials

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 07.07.24 um 18:03 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 07.07.2024 um 10:54:

Hi,
* can anyone give me an example where \noitem makes sense?


This is why the command exists:

\starttext

\startitemize[repeat,n][width=0pt]
\noitem
   \startitemize[a,broad]
   \item First item
   \item Second item
   \stopitemize
\noitem
   \startitemize[a,broad]
   \item First item
   \item Second item
   \stopitemize
\stopitemize

\stoptext



* is the + symbol of \sub configurable?


No.

Wolfgang


Thank you!
I added the example to the wiki (Enumerations).

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[NTG-context] Re: processor for index sub-entry?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 07.07.24 um 18:01 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 05.07.2024 um 22:36:

Hi,
is it possible to apply a processor to an index sub-entry?

\index{Modules+\type{filter}}
looks good, but "filter" is sorted under "type".

\defineprocessor[type][style=mono]
\index{Modules+type->filter}
results in a "Modules / type->filter" entry.

\index[Modules+filter]{Modules+\type{filter}}
works and looks good, but the code feels bad…


1. Complete your example to test them without adding stuff.


Sorry.

2. Use \setregisterentry which allows you to set processors for each 
entry level.


\defineprocessor[type][style=mono]

\starttext

xxx\setregisterentry[index][entries:1=Modules,entries:2=filter,processors:2=type]


Oh wow, another command that I didn’t know. Might make sense to use in 
macros or automated setups.


Thank you!

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: documenting itemize specials

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 07.07.2024 um 10:54:

Hi,
* can anyone give me an example where \noitem makes sense?


This is why the command exists:

\starttext

\startitemize[repeat,n][width=0pt]
\noitem
  \startitemize[a,broad]
  \item First item
  \item Second item
  \stopitemize
\noitem
  \startitemize[a,broad]
  \item First item
  \item Second item
  \stopitemize
\stopitemize

\stoptext



* is the + symbol of \sub configurable?


No.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: processor for index sub-entry?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 05.07.2024 um 22:36:

Hi,
is it possible to apply a processor to an index sub-entry?

\index{Modules+\type{filter}}
looks good, but "filter" is sorted under "type".

\defineprocessor[type][style=mono]
\index{Modules+type->filter}
results in a "Modules / type->filter" entry.

\index[Modules+filter]{Modules+\type{filter}}
works and looks good, but the code feels bad…


1. Complete your example to test them without adding stuff.

2. Use \setregisterentry which allows you to set processors for each 
entry level.


\defineprocessor[type][style=mono]

\starttext

xxx\setregisterentry[index][entries:1=Modules,entries:2=filter,processors:2=type]

\placeindex[n=1]

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: documenting itemize specials

[fv leung]

Numerical answers to a 3-part math problem in which the 2nd part is a proof:

\startitemize[a]
\item 1234
\noitem
\item 5679
\stopitemize 

> On 7 Jul 2024, at 4:54 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> * can anyone give me an example where \noitem makes sense?
> * is the + symbol of \sub configurable?
> 
> 
> \startitemize[n,packed]
> \startitem oins \stopitem
> \noitem zwoi
> \startitem droi \stopitem
> \sub droi ond ebbes
> \stopitemize
> 
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: table float split behavior

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

This is a long-time open issue. Am I the only one affected by this?

Also, \bTABLEfoot doesn’t repeat – I’d like to use it e.g for a line (rule).

Also, is it possible to have different captions in first and other parts?

Hraban

Am 17.06.24 um 18:36 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

Table floats split in odd places, independent of top/page/here location.

There’s always a first part, then some not-float text, then the other 
parts.


Even if the table would fit on two pages (with location=page), it always 
gets split into three.


Can I influence this anyhow?

Hraban


\usemodule[visual]

\starttext

\samplefile{tufte}

\startplacetable[location={top,split},title=table split test]
\bTABLE%[setups=twoparamstable]
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH One \eTH\bTH Two\eTH\bTH Three \eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\dorecurse{60}{%
\bTR\bTD #1\eTD\bTD \fakewords{1}{10}\eTD\bTD \fakewords{1}{10}\eTD\eTR
}
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
\stopplacetable

\samplefile{knuth}

\stoptext


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[NTG-context] Re: index sort order (de)

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Would any of the German users object to a change of the default?

Am 14.05.24 um 18:57 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

Hi,
I checked the German index sorting rules, and as far as I can tell, all 
of them are somewhat wrong.


– de, default, or no setting (just mainlanguage de)
– Duden
- DIN 5007-1(:2005)
- DIN 5007-2(:1996)
- de-AT

IMO, "Duden" is obsolete, should be the same as default; it makes no 
sense to have a default setting that doesn’t adhere to the official 
rules. If I’m not mistaken it’s also the same as DIN 5007-1; maybe there 
was a difference before 2005. (DIN 5007-2 and de-AT have their uses.)


The order of umlauts etc. should be ok.

[ß]
In tex/context/base/mkiv/sort-lan.lua, ß is replaced by s, while it 
should be sorted like ss in default and both DIN versions. (de-AT sorts 
ss after ß.)


[upper-/lowercase]
While casing is not mentioned in Wikipedia 
(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetische_Sortierung), Duden „Satz 
und Korrektur“ says:


Uppercase characters get sorted the same as lowercase (i.e. mixed), but 
if both appear, lowercase comes first.


ATM all German settings sort lowercase behind uppercase.



Generally, default method seems to be not "default" but "before". Does 
this make sense?


If we look at the method presets, there’s none for {zm,pm,zc,zm,uc} 
(upper like lower, ignore diacritics – basic default for German).


"""
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupregister[index][language=de]

\starttext

\index{Apfel}
\index{Äpfel}
\index{apfel}
\index{äpfel}
\index{aepfel}
\index{Aepfel}
\index{Ápfel}
\index{ápfel}

\page
\completeindex

\stoptext
"""

default order should be:

aepfel
Aepfel
apfel
Apfel
äpfel
Äpfel
ápfel
Ápfel
aqua

DIN 5007-2 sorts like:

aepfel
Aepfel
äpfel
Äpfel
apfel
Apfel
ápfel
Ápfel
aqua

de-AT sorts like:

aepfel
Aepfel
apfel
Apfel
aqua
äpfel
Äpfel
ápfel
Ápfel




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[NTG-context] documenting itemize specials

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi,
* can anyone give me an example where \noitem makes sense?
* is the + symbol of \sub configurable?


\startitemize[n,packed]
\startitem oins \stopitem
\noitem zwoi
\startitem droi \stopitem
\sub droi ond ebbes
\stopitemize


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[NTG-context] processor for index sub-entry?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi,
is it possible to apply a processor to an index sub-entry?

\index{Modules+\type{filter}}
looks good, but "filter" is sorted under "type".

\defineprocessor[type][style=mono]
\index{Modules+type->filter}
results in a "Modules / type->filter" entry.

\index[Modules+filter]{Modules+\type{filter}}
works and looks good, but the code feels bad…


Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt has stopped working

[Jethro Djan]

Sorry for the noise. Working after a fresh install. Probably something to
do with the update script.

Jethro

On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 at 6:31 PM, Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 7/5/2024 7:51 PM, Jethro Djan wrote:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Anytime I try make a document I get:
> >
> > token call, execute:
> > ...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/toks-aux.lmt:291: attempt
> > to call a nil value (field 'getmathvariantpresets')
> > stack traceback:
> mismatch between tex/lua and binary?
>
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