[NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions
Dear all, this time I have a question not concerning how to ship ConTeXt in Debian or so, but very different. Does anyone have experience with authoring for web and print. I.e., we want to maintain only one format and generate both web pages and printed documentation from it. Is there intrinsic or through addons support in ConteXt for this? Any suggestion would be greatly welcome Norbert PREINING, Norbert http://www.preining.info JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug#606656: MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
On Mo, 27 Jun 2011, Stappers wrote: > The page at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation is updated. Can someone please update this wiki page? The new package context-modules is now in Debian unstable. So people should install context context-modules and if they want context-nonfree context-doc-nonfree (the last two might be horrible out of date, sorry) By now MarkIV is not fully integrated, mtxrun --generate is not run automatically, but I want to add this in future to the tex-common trigger action of mktexlsr. Best wishes Norbert ---- Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 AMLWCH (n.) A British Rail sandwich which has been kept soft by being regularly washed and resealed in clingfilm. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug#606656: MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
On Mo, 27 Jun 2011, Stappers wrote: > There is again a working ConTeXt in Debian. > > The page at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation is updated. Not quite correct: - currently context and context-non-free are in conflict, both ship koeieletters.map, will be fixed soon with a new version of context - I am uploading a new package context-modules now that should ship all the context modules that are in TeX Live but notex-zh-cn and top-ten since we don't have license statements for them. Best wishes Norbert -------- Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 LONGNIDDRY (n.) A droplet which persists in running out of your nose. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug#606656: MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
On Mi, 15 Jun 2011, Stappers wrote: > MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found I just uploaded a new version to Debian that should fix that. context 2011.05.18.20110626-1 Please run mtxrun --generate once as root, and then as user, too. Best wishes Norbert ---- Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 Ford had his own code of ethics. It wasn't much of one, but it was his and he stuck by it, more or less. One rule he made was never to buy his own drinks. He wasn't sure if that counted as an ethic, but you have to go with what you've got. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt licensing
On Mi, 02 Mär 2011, Martin Schröder wrote: > *On topic* I'd also _very_ much like to see what's up with ConTeXt licensing. > From what it seems it looks like TeX Live is relicensing ConTeXt in its ??? How do you come to that conclusion? TeX Live is *NOT* relicensing *anything*. THe REDAME and COPYRIGHT clearly states that the files have different licenses. Please be more specific when you state things like that. Best wishes Norbert -------- Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 PUDSEY (n.) The curious-shaped flat wads of dough left on a kitchen table after someone has been cutting scones out of it. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)
Hi Mojca, On Di, 11 Jan 2011, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > 2010.07.30, according to http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=context > > In that case one should better run mtxrun instead of luatools (they > are equivalent at the moment, but luatools is becomming obsolete). Ahhh ... I guess that needs some divine inspiration to know ... > And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the > structure of texmf trees in debian. Of course, looking into it I graasped that now. Why on earth can mtxrun not simply load the main texmf.cnf like any other program in the TeX world and initialize the values from there I ask myself. I am slowly giving up on ConTeXt. It is changing in arbitrary directions far too often, and still things like multi-user support are not here since ages. I know, it is primary Hans' system and it has to work primarily on his computer, but that means that distributing it within any distribution system is plain pain :-( All that of course relates only to MkIV. I guess I will just add one sentence to the README.Debian: MkIV is not suppored on Debian. If you know how to set it up you can do it yourself and educate the maintainer, otherwise simply use MkII or the ConTeXt minimals. Sad but true. All the best Norbert -------- Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 CORRIEARKLET (n.) The moment at which two people approaching from opposite ends of a long passageway, recognise each other and immediately pretend they haven't. This is to avoid the ghastly embarrassment of having to continue recognising each other the whole length of the corridor. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)
Hi Aditya, hi all, On Mo, 10 Jan 2011, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Assuming that Norbert packaged ConTeXt package in debian testing, I am > CCing this message to him. So it seems that current Context has changed something, anyone can help me here? Up to now I did: export TEXMFCNF=/usr/share/texmf/web2c luatools --generate --verbose after which everything was working. Now I get: [~] luatools --generate --verbose MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin' MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr' MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.' MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to '/usr/share/texmf/web2c' MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to '' MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr' MTXrun | resolvers MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found MTXrun | resolvers MTXrun | forcing cache reload MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found MTXrun | resolvers MTXrun | resolvers MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua' MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua' MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-base.lua' MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua' MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua' BTW, why does this mtxrun not *SAY* what file it is searching for??? Just warning: no lua configuration files found is as useful as ... welll ... I stop here. In /usr/share/texmf/web2c/ there is a contextcnf.lua which looks like: return { type= "configuration", version = "1.0.2", date= "2010-06-07", time= "14:49:00", comment = "ConTeXt MkIV configuration file", Is there something missing? Best wishes Norbert Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this: `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.' The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.' --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (forw) Re: Fwd: Debian_installation - repositories not found
On Do, 19 Aug 2010, John Magolske wrote: > > Ah, yes, lmodern and context packages are gone. Don't remember why, but > > I assume because there were no differences anymore and people could > > simply install the versions from Debian/stable ... > > > > John, what are you running (Debian release) and what do you want to install? > > I'm running Debian unstable, and would like to install a somewhat For Debian/unstable you do NOT need *ANY* of those. Everything is in Debian unstable and testing!! These things are only for *oldstable*!!! Not even current *stable* needs them! > listed in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation would > accomplish this. I'm also considering installing the minimals Just do apt-get install context should be enough. But that is not the most recent context, I haven't found time for packaging a more current version for now. I hope that I can manage it in the next weeks. Best wishes Norbert -------- Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 SPOFFORTH (vb.) To tidy up a room before the cleaning lady arrives. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Debian_installation - repositories not found
Hi Mojca, hi everyone, On Mi, 18 Aug 2010, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > # for texlive > > deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ tl2007/ > > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ src/ That is fine. > > Err http://people.debian.org lmodern/ Packages > > 404 Not Found [IP: 206.12.19.5 80] > > Err http://people.debian.org lmodern/ Sources > > 404 Not Found [IP: 206.12.19.5 80] > > Err http://people.debian.org context/ Packages > > 404 Not Found [IP: 206.12.19.5 80] > > Err http://people.debian.org context/ Sources > > 404 Not Found [IP: 206.12.19.5 80] Ah, yes, lmodern and context packages are gone. Don't remember why, but I assume because there were no differences anymore and people could simply install the versions from Debian/stable ... John, what are you running (Debian release) and what do you want to install? Best wishes Norbert -------- Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 PABBY (n.,vb.) (Fencing term.) The play, or manoeuvre, where one swordsman leaps on to the table and pulls the battleaxe off the wall. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Debian luatex and context
On Fr, 18 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > I have just uploaded the archives for luatex 0.25.3, yet On Fr, 18 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hot on the heels of the luatex 0.25.3 release Hans has released > (yet another) new context current (the sixth or seventh this week). Debian packages: context (for sid and etch): deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ luatex for sid deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ luatex for etch deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ Please give it a test try. After some more tests I will upload the stuff to sid and sid users will get by normal operation. I tried this combination with my test cases and context/luatex according to README.MarkIV in the Debian package. Next release of TeX Live packages will PROBABLY contain updates to xetex/xdvipdfmx. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- EWELME (n.) The smile bestowed on you by an air hostess. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Jonathan Kew wrote: > If I do this, and create a tag "2007.1" in TL with the updated > branch2007 version, are you able to use this as the base for your Of course, that would be great. And if you want to be nice to me, too, send me a simple diff (svn diff output) of what you did and I am settled. > package? I presume you don't use the actual binaries from TL Master/ No, of course not. > bin anyway, so what matters is what we have in the source tree. Right. Big thanks a lot. That leaves the changes to euenc, fontspec, xltx..., ??? TO do or not to? Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- CHIPPING ONGAR (n.) The disgust and embarrassment (or 'ongar') felt by an observer in the presence of a person festooned with kirbies (q.v.) when they don't know them well enough to tell them to wipe them off, invariably this 'ongar' is accompanied by an involuntary staccato twitching of the leg (or 'chipping') --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Will Robertson wrote: > Sorry, I didn't know how you went about actually creating this package. The packages are created from the actual TeX Live release, or better from the security branch of the subversion repository, the tag 2007.1 or how it is called. > It sounds like it would be easiest to stick with the official releases > of TeXLive, despite the long-ish lag-time. Well yes and no. If the changes are not too invasive we can do it, but you remember what I said ... ;-) The problem is when lenny gets stable there will be *no* changes besides security changes. We will not have the chance to get fixes for stupid bugs that creeped in into lenny. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- LOW ARDWELL (n.) Seductive remark made hopefully in the back of a taxi. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
Hi Will, On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Will Robertson wrote: > All other XeTeX+LaTeX packages are unaffected and you should use the > latest versions from the SVN repository. If you need me to upload the Umpf, I don't like to package stuff that is in some svn repository for a stable release, stuff that hasn't seen at least a decent amount of testing. Honestly, I fear to open a pandora's box here. We are now at a level that I would have to: - patch xetex and probably xdvipdfmx - patch several tex packages - update the lmodern fonts And I am not sure that all this will *not* affect anything else in TeX Live 2007!?!? Furthermore, to be honest, I currently have not the time to prepare such a big thing. If one wants to step in and make a patch please grab http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/src/texlive-bin_2007.dfsg.1.orig.tar.gz and send a patch against it. It contains fontspec, euenc, and xltxtra. Receiving this patch I can (re)consider the whole thing. Sorry, but I have my time constraints, final theoretical mountain guide exam, upstream TeX Live work, and a real life ;- Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- GOLANT (adj.) Blank, sly and faintly embarrassed. Pertaining to the expression seen on the face of someone who has clearly forgotten your name. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Jonathan Kew wrote: > If you're willing to consider this, I can make and tag a branch in > our Subversion repository to give you a stable version to use (you'll I am considering that, and (but) best would be to have a patch against the sources in TeX Live 2007 (the bug fix branch I mean). Is there a chance to get such a patch? And we should at the same time update the necessary packages (is euenc and fontspec enough?) So, yes, I am consider that. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- COTTERSTOCK (n.) A piece of wood used to stir paint and thereafter stored uselessly in a shed in perpetuity. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > For XeLaTeX you indeed need to update fontspec, but if you're > reluctant to upgrade the rest of XeTeX, a fix of fontspec to support > the latest LM fonts is so minor, that it's really not worth having a > broken ConTeXt+XeTeX. fontspec might need only a few name fixes, > that's all. Give me a patch and I will see whether it is so "minor". > Debian, but a humble request from my side - please do upgrade LM. There are people using xetex without context, and I don't want to break anything for them. context/luatex and context/xetex are more experimental (or at least I consider them that way). I need to see the necessary changes before I can discuss that. Jonathan, Will: It is about TeX Live 2007 in Debian/lenny. There will be no TL2008 in lenny. But we have recent context and recent luatex. It is about updating the lmodern fonts, currently we have 1.01x, the last before the otf and font names were renamed. What changes would be necessary for fontspec and/or euenc and/or xetex so that we don't break everything, and have a working: xetex context/xetex Thanks for any enlightening comments!! Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- LOW EGGBOROUGH (n.) A quiet little unregarded man in glasses who is building a new kind of atomic bomb in his garden shed. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Norbert Preining wrote: > - for context/luatex: ok with old and new ones > - for context/xetex: new ones are necessary > > Ok, I will think about updating the lmodern fonts, too, but renaming the Hmm, according to Ralf updating the lmodern is a no-go because that would need euenc/fontspec updates, which would need ... devilish. (See bugs.debian.org/469437) I guess we have to live with this for lenny. And for the next we will have TL2008 with new xetex/luatex and can ship new context and fonts. Or do you have another suggestion??? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You ask far too much. --- Windows Error Haiku ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: > well, it may work with the old fonts (depends on how old), in > font-syn.tex you will find Well it is the last release before the renaming of the fonts, as I said 1.01x. > etc. so older fonts are ok for context/luatex; while for xetex new fonts > are needed. > > >So if we ship the old or the new one there is no problem with the one or > >the other? > > not for luatex/context Huuu ... above you say "so older fonts are ok for context/luatex; while for xetex new fonts are needed" and then "not for luatex/context" So I assume the situation is as follows: - for context/luatex: ok with old and new ones - for context/xetex: new ones are necessary Ok, I will think about updating the lmodern fonts, too, but renaming the font names is really a pain, you shouldn't do that after a 1.something release. No idea why they did that. Thanks for the information Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- AITH (n.) The single bristle that sticks out sideways on a cheap paintbrush. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: > indeed we need the latest although in the luatex version there is a kind > of fallback name subsystem, Aehm what does this mean??? So either you need it, or there is a fallback system ... semantics are sometimes dangerous ;-) So if we ship the old or the new one there is no problem with the one or the other? > thanks for your prompt package building No problem, there are normally not many things to do but running the tests. But I still hope that some Debian ConTeXt user could check that everything works as expected etc etc. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- FINUGE (vb.) In any division of foodstuffs equally between several people, to give yourself the extra slice left over. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
Hi all, On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote: >http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Note > > for everything we did change and patch in the past 24 hours. > If nothing bad happens, this release will go to CTAN (and > debian, I presume) sometime tomorrow. Preliminary packages are available at the usual location deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ Please give it a try. I made tests and it passed all context/pdftex tests and the simple context/luatex I am using. Taco/Hans: Do you require the newest lmodern with the change of font names in this context version? Debian currently has 1.010x. This is important because we have to make a concerted action in case the deps are on the new lmodern. Thanks and all the best Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- NANTWICH (n.) A late-night snack, invented by the Earl of Nantwich, which consists of the dampest thing in the fridge, pressed between two of the driest things in the fridge. The Earl, who lived in a flat in Clapham, invented the nantwich to avoid having to go shopping. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] luatex and context for Debian
On So, 06 Jan 2008, Joel C. Salomon wrote: > Running Ubuntu Hardy alpha 2, reloading package lists reports: > > W: GPG error: http://people.debian.org context/ Release: The following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not > available: NO_PUBKEY D2BF4AA309C5B094 Not surprising. Either get my key from the Debian Developers key ring or from any key server. Fingerprints are in all my emails and on my web page there are fingerprint and the key. man apt-key ... Something like wget -O - http://www.logic.at/people/preining/dsa.asc | apt-get add - (as root) could help. (Without any guarantee) Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- QUENBY (n.) A stubborn spot on a window which you spend twenty minutes trying to clean off before discovering it's on the other side of the glass. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] luatex and context for Debian
Dear all, I have updated luatex and context so currently I can even run MkIV documents ;-) Debian/sid users should have them already. Debian/etch users should get luatex 0.20.2-1 from deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ Currently I have only i386 packages, but will build amd64 for etch soon. And maybe powerpc builds can be organized. For context 2007.12.18-1 please add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ Just for completeness, it is good to have: texlive: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ tl2007/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ src/ latin modern: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ lmodern/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ lmodern/ For Ubuntu users of the development version (i.e., that tracking sid more or less) luatex can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ Please comment if you find something missing. Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HASSOP (n.) The pocket down the back of an armchair used for storing two-shilling bits and pieces of Lego. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released
On Di, 11 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Thank you. I needed to install a few packages (libpoppler-dev, quilt, > fakeroot), and after that everything compiled correctly. Not surprising ;-) > What is required for building a .deb file for amd64 for distribution. Can > the luatex_0.20.1-1_amd64.deb that I built by the above process be used on Yes. You can send it to other Hardy users, or put it up somewhere. I will build an amd64 version for Debian/sid Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills. To add weight to his words he stuck the rabbit bone in his hair. He spread his arms out wide. `I will go mad!' he announced. --- Arthur discovering a way of coping with life on --- Prehistoric Earth. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released
Hi Aditya, On Mo, 10 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Ubuntu gusty ships with libpoppler 0.6.2.1. However, I do not get any > suggested updates because I am using amd64 architecture, and I see that Ok, for you deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ I will upload amd64 as soon as I can build them. In the meantime you can do: - add the above to /etc/apt/sources - aptitude update - apt-get source luatex - cd luatex-0.20.1 - dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot -b - cd .. - dpkg -i luatex*.deb Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- AINSWORTH (n.) The length of time it takes to get served in a camera shop. Hence, also, how long we will have to wait for the abolition of income tax or the Second Coming. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released
On Mo, 10 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ > > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ > > > >This release of luatex for Debian ships an improved texdoc written in > >texlua by Frank Küster. Please report any strange things to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Excuse my ignorance, but is it safe to use these sources for ubuntu gusty > as well? Safe for sure, but you have to check whether it compiles. It depends on the version of libpoppler present in Ubuntu Gutsy. For libpoppler 0.4.X (X <= 8) take the etch variant For libpoppler 0.4.9 or 0.5.X you have to unpack the source package, change the debian/patches/series file to list the libpoppler-0.5 patch and comment the libpoppler-0.4 and -0.6 For libpoppler 0.6.X take the sid variant (available at the same location as the etch variant but with terminal luatex-sid instead of luatex) Sorry for being of not so much help, but I don't have a gutsy around and I never could find out which versions of Ubuntu ship which versions of libraries. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- I'm going to have a look.' He glanced round at the others. `Is no one going to say, "No you can't possibly, let me go instead"?' They all shook their heads. `Oh well.' --- Ford attempting to be heroic whilst being seiged by --- Shooty and Bangbang. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released
On Fr, 07 Dez 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > I have just uploaded the archives for luatex 0.20.1. This Debian sid users will get 0.20.1 soon by normal update. Debian etch users can add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ This release of luatex for Debian ships an improved texdoc written in texlua by Frank Küster. Please report any strange things to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Taco! Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- CLATHY (adj.) Nervously indecisive about how safely to dispose of a dud lightbulb. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fatal format file error; I'm stymied
Hi Hans, hi all! (Don't see Ernesto's email adr, so to the list, Hans in case please forward it to him) On Fr, 02 Nov 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > >I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 > >machine) and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu > >repositories. I tried compiling a very simple document: Did you upgrade from an older version? > >Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the > >incompatibility between This is pdfTeXk... > >and > > ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex > >is the source of all trouble here. pdfetex with TeXLIve 2007, NO! Can you tell us the LOCATION of cont-en.fmt? Probably there are left overs in /var/lib/texmf/web2c/*.fmt Delete all of them, then call dpkg-reconfigure context Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- MEETH (n.) Something which American doctors will shortly tell us we are all suffering from. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] integrating context mkiv, luatex, and fmtutil, mktexlsr, etc
On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > formats go to the paths defined in texmf.cnf (TEXFORMATS) and the > filedatabses go alongside the ls-R files, so basically it then behaves > like any other tex ??? "file databases go alongside the ls-R files" what do you mean? I thought the stuff generated by luatools is something like the ls-R database for luatex. But it is placed NOT alongside the ls-R files, right? > the cache path is only used and populated at runtime, so So every time I run a luatex/context document it has to read ALL the trees again??? Cannot be, that was the whole point of ls-R/cache. It should be generated once (the cache). > LUATEXCACHE=$TEXMFVAR/luacache:... > TEXMFSHARECACHE=yes > > should be ok then; if needed, later i can look into a way to share other > cache stuff (say that you generate tmc files for 300 fonts at > installation time) but if i understoof right, the main reason was > formats and file databases Yes, currently the main reason is for ls-R replacement and format location. But font data could be useful, too. My system has quite a lot of fonts ... On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > texexec --make --luatex en [...] > this depends on the value of TEXFORMATS nd what path is first writable Hmm, $ export TEXFORMATS=/home/norbert/.texmf-var/web2c $ texexec --make --luatex en ... TeXExec | using tex engine luatex TeXExec | using tex format path /home/norbert/.texmf-var/web2c/luatex TeXExec | generating tex format cont-en ... Transcript written on cont-en.log. LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.18 seconds TeXExec | no lua compilations needed TeXExec | TeXExec | tex engine path: /home/norbert/.texmf-var/web2c/luatex TeXExec | TeXExec | TeXExec | runtime: 9.486118 $ ls ~/.texmf-var/web2c/luatex $ ls -l ~/luatex-cache/context/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da/formats/ -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 5669003 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.fmt -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 38786 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.log -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 159484 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.lua -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 112438 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.luc $ So the format is placed in some strange ;-) place under luatex-cache. > btw, reminds me ... is this becoming a cross distribution linux > convention (was already so on the mac) ... no longer root users, but > always a sudu needed? No, Debian does not install sudo at all per default. There is a real root user. - To sum it up: It is a bit unclear what purpose the cache is used for: - ls-R replacement, ie some sort of file database - preprocessed font data cache so that loading the stuff is done faster - formats??? what is saved for this But all of this is somehow static. On a normal system a normal user shouldn't have the necessity to change anything of the above. That should be done at install time of the respective stuff. Furthermore, the cache could be used (no idea whether this is true) for: - single job caching of data wouldn't it be better to keep generated files like this in the cwd, like .aux, etc files - caching of user files like the above, but initiated by the user Again, I don't see any other use than these ones, but please enlighten me what else it is used for. But in this case some mktexlsr-ish approach would make sense. So suggestion, like any TEXMF tree contains a ls-R file, we could have for any TEXMFTREE a lcache/ directory $tree/lcache/ which contains the cache for this tree. Since luatools and other things extract the texmf trees anyway from the TEXMFCNF variable, the cache could be read from there. What was the reason to do the hashing somewhere else but add the md5sums etc for these trees? Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- AINSWORTH (n.) The length of time it takes to get served in a camera shop. Hence, also, how long we will have to wait for the abolition of income tax or the Second Coming. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] integrating context mkiv, luatex, and fmtutil, mktexlsr, etc
HI Hans! On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > >database for luatex. But it is placed NOT alongside the ls-R files, > >right? > > well, "TEXMFSHARECACHE=yes" makes sure that it is put in the same path > as the ls-r file Ah, ok, that is with the new context you created today. No, didn't test this till now ;-) First I guess I need an updated luatex you said. > no, not the trees, but if one uses a font, say lmroman10-regular.otf, > then the 'converterd/prepared/whatever' datatable is cached so only that > file ends up in the cache (flat structure, so, when one needs > lmroman10-regular.otf, i first look in the cache (no database needed) > for a tmc/a file, if not present i generate one, using the otf file from > the normal tree, looked up in a kpse like way) [...] > >- preprocessed font data cache so that loading the stuff is done faster > > indeed, only at runtime, so normally in the users path someplace Hmm, I still don't get it. In all this processing, is there a job depending thing contained? I thought extracting all those tables etc can be done independently of all jobs (and will help all jobs). Anyway, I got it. So this is not a bad thing at all to have this stuff generated at job running time, so we (integrators) don't have to worry about it. Only finding all the files is important for a start, so ls-R replacement. > >$ ls -l ~/luatex-cache/context/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da/formats/ > >-rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 5669003 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.fmt > >-rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 38786 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.log > >-rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 159484 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.lua > >-rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 112438 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.luc > >$ > > > >So the format is placed in some strange ;-) place under luatex-cache. > > hm, also with the new version and the env var set? here it nicely goes > to texmf-linux/web2c/luatex Probably an instance of "get the new beta", btw, where do I get it, from the usual download place? Or is there something else for betas? > >- formats??? what is saved for this > > a cont-en.fmt as well as a cont-en.luc file, the format and it sstub Yes of course, but what needs to be cached here but the sole information that the file exist? (ie updating ls-R/cache) > >But all of this is somehow static. On a normal system a normal user > >shouldn't have the necessity to change anything of the above. That > >should be done at install time of the respective stuff. > > no, the font cache is not pregenerated at all, think of it like this: > > - luatex loads otf font (takes time) > - provides it as table to mkiv (takes more time) > - mkiv adds a few things, preprocesses the font a bit > - then saves it as table (compiled) so that loading goes in an eyeblink Ok, so after the first processing later jobs will have access to these tables in a blink. Ok, don't mind. Good for me ;-) No need to worry about this. > >Furthermore, the cache could be used (no idea whether this is true) for: > >- single job caching of data > > wouldn't it be better to keep generated files like this in the > > cwd, like .aux, etc files > > we're talking of megabytes here Are these megabytes kept and are they useful for later runs? If yes, then it is ok to put them in a separate cache (I assume the stuff is useful, it is the font stuff). > >What was the reason to do the hashing somewhere else but add the md5sums > >etc for these trees? > > lengths of paths and such; i run luatex on the unix web/etc servers and > have multiple trees in parallel, so now i can with one variable changed > access all data; > > /temp/luatex/context//whatever > > > /temp/luatex/context/c:/blabla/tex/blabla/whatever > > > does not work that well, so i hash the treeroot Hmm, but if the caches would be in TEXMFTREE/lcache/ then the only thing necessary would be a change of TEXMFCNF referencing other trees. (Sorry, only trying to understand the details ...) Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills. To add weight to his words he stuck the rabbit bone in his hair. He spread his arms out wide. `I will go mad!' he announced. --- Arthur discovering a way of coping with life on ---
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] Call for test documents
On Di, 02 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/ Is there svn access? I have a checkout (very old) but the svn address has changed. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- SLUGGAN (n.) A lurid facial bruise which everyone politely omits to mention because it's obvious that you had a punch-up with your spouse last night - but which into a door. It is useless to volunteer the true explanation because nobody will believe it. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Call for test documents
Dear all, I am currently testing the installation of ConTeXt/MkIV on Debian and thus being in search for test documents using MkIV features/luatex stuff. Or at least document which I can/should be able to process with luatex/context. If you have any documents it would be great if you could send me them, best together with a short line on HOW to process the documents, and even better with a "correct" pdf output. This way I can do proper checking. Thanks a lot and all the best Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- THRUMSTRER (n.) The irritating man next to you in a concert who thinks he's (a) the conductor, (b) the brass section. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Hi all! On Die, 06 Feb 2007, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the > fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: > > See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega This is strange. I have these \Omegas occuring without any problem! I also tried a minimal example: \starttext This should be Omega subscript s: $\Omega_s$ This should be 2 times pi cdot 11: $2\pi \cdot 11$ \stoptext and it showed up correct. Are you sure that you didn't mess up something with your font installation. As already asked, please send the log file of your compile run! Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. This page is not here. --- Windows Error Haiku ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > missing chars are only reported by pdftex in the log file Good. Now that I know this I could track down the problem which was reported to something else but the lm fonts, namely to a buggy \pm command. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BEREPPER The irrevocable and sturdy fart released in the presence of royalty, which sounds quite like a small motorbike passing by (but not enough to be confused with one). --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: > Why why why? lmodern in Debian is at version 1.00 and Taco (or Hans) > told me that the math fonts *are* included (and in fact I see them!) in > the 1.00 version, too. And when I take a look at the lm-hist.txt I *don*t see anything which could induce this, or am I blind (see below). And then, please WHY does context not cry out loud something like character missing or so? I compile the document but the created documents actually misses characters. But in the log file no warning, no error, nothing. Is this the intention of ConTeXt, or is this a bug, or a feature? Ver. 1.010, 16.01.2007: * important bugs fixed (R. Kinch in 1995, * http://www.truetex.com/tug95ps.zip, Karel P\'{\i}\v{s}ka http://www-hep.fzu.cz/~piska/lm2006.html -- thanks to both), moreover, `perthousand' and `permyriad' corrected in all italic fonts (wrong path directions) * LaTeX support fixed and enhanced with LM math (thanks to Marcin Woli\'nski) * math text metric files (rm-*.tfm) provided * the letter `mu' corrected (other Greek letters must wait for a while) * `[lL]dotaccent' renamed to `[lL]dot', wrong shapes (dot above) * corrected * `cedilla' adjusted in lmri*, lmu10, and lmdunh10 * `[CcSs]cedilla' reprogrammed in lmri* and lmu10 * `ogonek' and `cedilla' have forced height=0 now (in TFMs) * new encodings (cs, l7x) added * some glyphs renamed: `*superior' -> `*.superior', `*.oldstyle' -> `*.taboldstyle', `*.oldstyle.prop' -> `*.oldstyle' (names `*oldstyle', i.e., without a dot, removed) * several glyphs added: combining accents, `sfthyphen' (a duplicate of `hyphen' for non-TeX applications), `[eE].reversed', `[tT]cedilla', Romanized Sanskrit letters (`[dD]dotbelow', `[hH]dotbelow', `[lL]dotbelow', `[lL]dotbelowmacron', `[mM]dotbelow', `[nN]dotaccent', `[nN]dotbelow', `[rR]dotbelow', `[rR]dotbelowmacron', `[tT]dotbelow' -- the suggestion of R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar) * the structure of OTF files corrected -- grouping within families changed (following Adam Twardoch's suggestions -- thanks), features made more reasonable, glyph naming adjusted to standard recommendations, OTF version number consistent with the PS one * the technical documentation provided * a few minor changes in sources Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- LOUTH (n.) The sort of man who wears loud check jackets, has a personalised tankard behind the bar and always gets served before you do. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Problems with fonts
Hi Kumar, hi Mojca, On Son, 04 Feb 2007, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > I guess that Norbert is reading the mailing list, but I'm forwarding No. I read dev-context but not the ntg-context ml. > anyway. You need a new version of LM fonts, but it should finally be > fixed in Debian itself (I thought that it was fixed already.) Why why why? lmodern in Debian is at version 1.00 and Taco (or Hans) told me that the math fonts *are* included (and in fact I see them!) in the 1.00 version, too. > Formats should also be generated automatically, but I experience > similar problems on mac. No. Currently formats are NOT autogenerated in texlive in Debian for conext, because mktexfmt/fmtutil does NOT support engine specific subdirs for formats. This will work again with texlive 2007. On Son, 04 Feb 2007, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But now, whenever I do texexec , I get a PDF with many > mathematical > symbols missing. So, I do this: > > texexec --dvi ee03b091.tex > dvips ee03b091.dvi > ps2pdf ee03b091.ps > > Now, this seems to work, but the fonts are not rendered as well as they used > to in Acrobat. > > And this also does not give the fonts, but causes the same math trouble > again: > > texexec --dvi ee03b091.tex > dvips -o ee03b091.ps -Ppdf ee03b091.dvi > ps2pdf ee03b091.ps > > What could be wrong? Is my installation broken? Can I salvage it? Can you send me the file ee03b091.tex so that I can check it (I won't publish the contents and won't rob you of any publication ;-) Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HIGH LIMERIGG (n.) The topmost tread of a staircase which disappears when you've climbing the stairs in the darkness. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] New Debian ConTeXt package fix complete breakage
Hi all! Thanks to the quick upload of whoever (I assume Hans) there is a new Debian package on the tug server and uploaded to Debian that fixes the complete breakage: 2007.01.12.2-1 (note the additional .2) Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- YESNABY (n.) A 'yes, maybe' which means 'no'. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt 2007.01.12 problem
On Fre, 12 Jan 2007, Mike Bird wrote: > > > context_2007.01.12-1 has this problem. You might want to pull it until > > > a new package is available as this problem is a bit of a showstopper. > > > > Is this a side-effect of context 2007.01.12 demanding pdftex 1.40? > > It's the problem Hans diagnosed as material missing from the end of > spec-mis.tex . He said he would upload a new zip but I don't know > if that has happened yet. Damned, this is seriously hosed ... one time I couldn't test all the test cases I have on my laptop before uploading the upstream stuff is hosed, that is a pity. Guys, if you manage to get a fixed upstream by tomorrow 7:20am I can do an upload , otherwise you have to wait till monday morning, because I am leaving for ice climbing. In the meantime please install http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/context/context_2007.01.02-2_all.deb to get a working context ... Sorry ... Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- GLENTIES (pl.n.) Series of small steps by which someone who has made a serious tactical error in a conversion or argument moves from complete disagreement to wholehearted agreement. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt 2007.01.12 problem
On Fre, 12 Jan 2007, Mike Bird wrote: > context_2007.01.12-1 has this problem. You might want to pull it until > a new package is available as this problem is a bit of a showstopper. Too late. Is this known upstream? Taco, Hans? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- KURDISTAN (n.) Hard stare given by a husband to his wife when he notices a sharp increase in the number of times he answers the phone to be told, 'Sorry, wrong number.' --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] debian context updates
On Mit, 03 Jan 2007, Ralf Stubner wrote: > > Strange, does your texmf.cnf contain the following TEXFORMAT line: > > TEXFORMATS = .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$engine,} > > Wasn't this a rather recent change in tex-common? In principle it would be tex-common 0.36, 25 Oct 2006 > good if Ubuntu would ubdate their tex-common in 6.10 (AFAIK they have an > integrated update scheme). Not least because of 'TeX on Debian', which is > not yet part of Ubuntu 6.10. I cannot care for this, this is up to others. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- CURRY MALLET (n.) A large wooden or rubber cub which poachers use to despatch cats or other game which they can only sell to Indian resturants. For particulary small cats the price obtainable is not worth the cost of expending ammunition. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] debian context updates 2007.01.02
Hi all! New context and context-nonfree based on 2007.01.02 release are on the TUG server. I will leave the current versions available in the Debian NEW queue and hope that the pass. After the inclusion I will upload new packages (which don't have to go through the NEW queue). Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- LITTLE URSWICK (n.) The member of any class who most inclines a teacher towards the view that capital punishment should be introduced in schools. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] debian context updates
HI Sanjoy! (Taking of Mike, I am not sure whether he is interested in bug reports, he only gets all my announces since he was the first/most active tester) On Die, 02 Jan 2007, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: > I'm using Ubuntu 6.10, so context_2006.12.27-1_all.deb wouldn't > install without a --force-conflicts,overwrite,depends given to dpkg > (Ubuntu still uses tetex 3.0). With that caveat, which may explain > the buglet I saw, it mostly worked fine. Isn't texlive in ubuntu? Maybe not in 6.10. Well all the forces are necessary, tetex and context provide some same files in /usr/bin > The buglet: The context formats that the package installed in > /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex are not found. For example, "pdfetex > '&cont-en'" tries to run mktexfmt. So I made a symlink from Strange, does your texmf.cnf contain the following TEXFORMAT line: TEXFORMATS = .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$engine,} > /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex to /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex and then > 'texexec' worked fine on my current document (a 50-page mathematics > textbooklet). (BTW, can you send me this file in private with all support stuff, I need context test documents, I wont publish it ;-) > I'm pretty sure the problem arose because I now use pdftex 1.40.0, > which (I think) sets the engine to pdftex, even when it is called as > pdfetex. Umpf, yes. Well. If you prefer to hack everything yourself you have to expect bad things... > Not sure what the best solution is. The symlink is a bit of a hack. THere is none. Stick with pdf(e)tex as shipped by tetex. > In the long run, it's good to get rid of the pdfetex/pdftex This will be in TeX Live 2006... > engine. So until all surrounding programs are taught to use pdftex as > the engine, this problem will occur and maybe the symlink is the > solution. All this will go into texlive-* 2006, as there is pdftex 1.40.0 > Before I did the dpkg --force..., I was trying to simulate its effect > in a custom script. So I looked through the ctxfmtutil script and was > surprised to find that this texexec command (on line 38) worked: No idea about this, > `Not all those who wander are lost.' (J.R.R. Tolkien) ;-) Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- One's never alone with a rubber duck. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] debian context updates
Hi all! Bad timing ... new upstream ... why was there no notice on dev-context? New upstream 2006-12-27 is online. context-nonfree (cow fonts) and context-doc-nonfree stay the same. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- WORKSOP (n.) A person who never actually gets round to doing anything because he spends all his time writing out lists headed 'Things to Do (Urgent)'. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] debian context updates
Hi all! I have uploadedanother repetition, this time with new package splitting: package context: all the normal stuff as before package context-nonfree currently only the cowfonts package context-doc-nonfree all the pdf documentation from below, plus style.pdf and details.pdf which Hans suggested. So the context package has changed as it now suggests both context-nonfree and context-doc-nonfree. The tarball for context-nonfree has changed, as it only contains the cowfonts. And context-doc-nonfree is new. On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote: > aleph.pdf mfonts.pdfmtexfont.pdf show-dem.pdf show-pap.pdf > cont-eni.pdf minstall.pdf mtexutil.pdf show-exa.pdf show-pre.pdf > cont-enp.pdf mmakempy.pdf mtexwork.pdf showfont.pdf showunic.pdf > eppchtex.pdf mp-cb-en.pdf roadmap.pdf show-gra.pdf tiptrick.pdf > example.pdfmp-ch-en.pdf setup-en.pdf show-mag.pdf > metafun-p.pdf ms-cb-en.pdf show-art.pdf show-man.pdf > metafun-s.pdf mtexexec.pdf showcase.pdf show-not.pdf I will upload the stuff to Debian now, as it seems pretty stable,and etch is frozen anyway. In the meantime, it is available at the usual place. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- IPSWICH (n.) The sound at the other end of the telephone which tells you that the automatic exchange is working very hard but is intending not actually to connect you this time, merely to let you know how difficult it is. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Here is my attempt to integrate everything said here with the UK TeX > FAQ entry and the wikipedia entry of ConTeXt, without pointing out all > the bad things about LaTeX. Everything said and done, LaTeX is much > better than Word Processors ;) Thanks a lot! Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- MANKINHOLES (pl.n.) The small holes in a loaf of bread which give rise to the momentary suspicion that something may have made its home within. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new debian context and debian-nonfree 2006.12.21-1
Hi all! Again, after all the helpful comments from Taco, Hans, Mojca, Aditya, I have redone all the packaging: context: everything but the cow fonts and the tipsandtricks.pdf context-nonfree: cow fonts a long list of pdfs from the web site: aleph.pdf mfonts.pdfmtexfont.pdf show-dem.pdf show-pap.pdf cont-eni.pdf minstall.pdf mtexutil.pdf show-exa.pdf show-pre.pdf cont-enp.pdf mmakempy.pdf mtexwork.pdf showfont.pdf showunic.pdf eppchtex.pdf mp-cb-en.pdf roadmap.pdf show-gra.pdf tiptrick.pdf example.pdfmp-ch-en.pdf setup-en.pdf show-mag.pdf metafun-p.pdf ms-cb-en.pdf show-art.pdf show-man.pdf metafun-s.pdf mtexexec.pdf showcase.pdf show-not.pdf So I hope this should give a quite complete and useful base for context. I also extended the copyright file to include the statements by Taco, and some more remarks. Still I hope that one of the next releases of ConTeXt will contain some sort of MANIFEST.foobar as I suggested. The wording is also improved I hope, so now for all the Debian guys: Can you please take a look at the package, what you think, as I plan (as you see from the version number) to upload it soon. Usual location. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- Rome wasn't burned in a day. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1
Hi Sanjoy! On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: > > - man pages for all the funny applications ... Or only one for > > texmfstart, but this would be a bit of cheating ... > > For the November 2006 TeXLive code freeze, I wrote from scratch or > revised several ConTeXt manpages -- including a few originally > "written for the Debian system", so one good turn deserves another: > attached is the .tgz file (and its .zip equivalent) that I sent Karl > Berry. Thanks a lot, installed them. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- YONKERS (n.) (Rare.) The combined thrill of pain and shame when being caught in public plucking your nostril-hairs and stuffing them into your side-pocket. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1
Hi all! On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > What are the differences between ConTeXt and LaTeX? > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#What_are_the_differences_between_ConTeXt_and_LaTeX.3F Thanks I included some text from it into the control file, ie description: Description: powerful TeX format. ConTeXt is a typographical engine written in the typographical computer language TeX. ConTeXt provides you with a convenient way to encode documents in a structured way and to typeset these documents in various ways on paper, computer screen or web site. . The main difference between ConTeXt and LaTeX lies in the fact that LaTeX was created with the idea of separating content and presentation to such an extent that the typical author would write their content and then use a style file created by someone else to provide the visual presentation. . ConTeXt, on the other hand, retained the idea of separating content and presentation, but was created with the idea of being used for books, where each book tends to have a different layout, and so the expected "end user" is the person doing all the layout. Thus, it's designed to provide a vast amount of flexibility for layout in a way that can be fairly easily defined without needing to write a package . This package also contains MetaFun. MetaFun (a superset of well known MetaPost) is a powerful system for vector graphics that is fully integrated into ConTeXt, but also usable as a stand alone product. . MetaFun is not for interactive drawing applications and not for free hand drawings. Its strength lies in the ability to enhance the document layout with highly accurate graphic elements. If someone wants to improve it ... Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- KALAMI (n.) The ancient Eastern art of being able to fold road-maps properly. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt
en exist a source, anywhere. As I said, I *cannot* include it into context, but I WILL it include, as with the rest of the ConTeXt documentation into context-nonfree so that people WILL have everything available. The difference between normal and non-free in Debian is (only) that the later one is non officially part of Debian, but is still distributed via the Debian mirror system, so easily available. > From the entire list of pdfs, I believe this is the only one that > really does not have a source included where there could reasonably > be expected to be a source avaible somewhere. Thanks a lot. > >CC-plus-ND the following: > >./doc/fonts/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters.rme > > "Anything starting with koei" -> CC-ND is correct (like you said > in another message). There was one in this list by mistake: Yup. > > ./fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-adobe-euro.map > > that should be GPL. My error. Taco, thanks a lot for your work and all the best Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- TREWOFFE (n.) A very thick and heavy drift of snow balanced precariously on the edoge of a door porch waiting for what it judges to be the correct moment to fall. From the ancient Greek legend 'The Treewofe of Damocles'. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context and debian-nonfree 2006.12.21-0.1
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote: > cont-img is in context, BUT the list of files attached in > MANIFEST.nonfree which are in context-nonfree. Which is now attached ... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- QUERRIN (n.) A person that no one has ever heard of who unaccountably manages to make a living writing prefaces. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ./doc/fonts/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters.rme ./doc/context/document/general/manuals/tiptrick.pdf ./doc/context/third/bnf/t-bnf.pdf ./doc/context/third/chromato/chromato-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/chromato/chromato-doc.pdf ./doc/context/third/cmscbf/cmscbf-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/cmscbf/cmscbf-doc.pdf ./doc/context/third/cmttbf/cmttbf-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/cmttbf/cmttbf-doc.pdf ./doc/context/third/construction-plan/construction-plan-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/construction-plan/construction-plan-doc.pdf ./doc/context/third/degrade/degrade-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/degrade/degrade-doc.pdf ./doc/context/third/french/french-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/french/french-doc.pdf ./doc/context/third/typearea/typearea-demo.pdf ./doc/context/third/typearea/typearea-doc.pdf ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters-contour.afm ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters.afm ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos-contour.afm ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos.afm ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeien-ex.afm ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeien-mi.afm ./fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeien-sy.afm ./fonts/enc/pdftex/context/koeieletters-ex.enc ./fonts/enc/pdftex/context/koeieletters-mi.enc ./fonts/enc/pdftex/context/koeieletters-sy.enc ./fonts/enc/pdftex/context/koeieletters.enc ./fonts/enc/pdftex/context/koeielogos.enc ./fonts/map/pdftex/context/koeieletters.map ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielett-contour.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielett.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-ex.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-mi.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-sy.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-syx.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters-contour.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielettx.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos-contour.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeien-ex.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeien-mi.tfm ./fonts/tfm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeien-sy.tfm ./fonts/type1/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters-contour.pfb ./fonts/type1/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters.pfb ./fonts/type1/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos-contour.pfb ./fonts/type1/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos.pfb ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielett-contour.vf ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielett.vf ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-ex.vf ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-mi.vf ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-sy.vf ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletter-syx.vf ./fonts/vf/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielettx.vf ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new debian context and debian-nonfree 2006.12.21-0.1
Hi all! I re-repacked the stuff and now there are 2 packages: context context-nonfree the content is quite easy: Everything from cont-tmf, cont-fnt, cont-ext, cont-img is in context, BUT the list of files attached in MANIFEST.nonfree which are in context-nonfree. context suggests context-nonfree I plan to add a lot of documentation files from the website to context-nonfree. Files can be moved around at will, let me know. Description of context a bit shortened and less commercial. Otherwise no changes. Same location as usual. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- ARTHUR It probably seems a terrible thing to say, but you know what I sometimes think would be useful in these situations? LINT. What? ARTHUR A gun of some sort. LINT.2 Will this help? ARTHUR What is it? LINT.2 A gun of some sort. ARTHUR Oh, that'll help. Can you make it fire? LINT. Er... F/X DEAFENING ROAR LINT. Yes. --- Arthur and the Lintillas gaining the upper hand, Fit the --- Twelfth. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >find . -name \*cow\* does not give me anything with 2006.12.21, is this > >intended, or how are the fonts called ... > > Try > >find . -name koei\* > > (koe == cow in dutch) Ahh thanks, ok these fonts are gone. I will package anyway a context-nonfree (including the documentation) which also will carry the fonts (I hope I come around this!) Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- ABOYNE (vb.) To beat an expert at a game of skill by playing so appallingly that none of his clever tactics or strategies are of any use to him. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote: > New upstream, new debian package 2006.12.21-0.1 > > deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ > > Missing before I can upload (will upload) to Debian: > - copyright file needs to be extended. I got the OK from Taco that > everything but the cows fonts are GPLv2 or PD, those fonts I couldn't > find for now, so it seems that it is ok. I have to write something up. Those fonts are removed, it was the koei* files, they are not included in the .orig.tar.gz anymore, and will probably make it into -nonfree. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- Oh no, not again. --- A bowl of petunias on it's way to certain death. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1
Hi all! New upstream, new debian package 2006.12.21-0.1 deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ Missing before I can upload (will upload) to Debian: - copyright file needs to be extended. I got the OK from Taco that everything but the cows fonts are GPLv2 or PD, those fonts I couldn't find for now, so it seems that it is ok. I have to write something up. - Description: As Frank noted, something less commercial and more descriptive. - man pages for all the funny applications ... Or only one for texmfstart, but this would be a bit of cheating ... Anyone stepping forward to help here? (This request is also going to the context list, maybe there is someone eager to contribute something ;-))) Best wishes and thanks a lot Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- DUNCRAGGON (n.) The name of Charles Bronson's retirement cottage. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > The cows fonts (inside cont-tmf) are cc-by-nd. TeXLive doesn't > like that, so perhaps the same is true for debian. find . -name \*cow\* does not give me anything with 2006.12.21, is this intended, or how are the fonts called ... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- TODBER (n.) One whose idea of a good time is to stand behind his front hedge and give surly nods to people he doesn't know. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for > >luatex which I am also packaging. > > Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally > experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that > know how to deal with unstable software. I forgot to say: If you or the team have strong feelings *against* a packaged version, even if it is accompanied by big warnings etc, let us know, we can also forget about the packaging for now. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' --- The Book. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > The cows fonts (inside cont-tmf) are cc-by-nd. TeXLive doesn't > like that, so perhaps the same is true for debian. Ok. > Everything in (the current versions of) cont-ext, cont-fmt and cont-img > is either GPLv2 or Public Domain. Thanks for clarification. > >BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for > >luatex which I am also packaging. > > Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally > experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that > know how to deal with unstable software. I know, I will call the package luatex-snapshot upload it to experimental, and people will get a warning about its usage. It is ok this way, not many people will get it from experimental anyway, but I want to have it around for testing, and better early adoption then late work. The point is that there are people who don't want to compile things but still are able to test stuff. For those luatex-snapshot pacakged will serve, too (and for me, because I don't want to have packages not under package management control on my system ;-) Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HASTINGS (pl.n.) Things said on the spur of the moment to explain to someone who comes into a room unexpectedly precisely what it is you are doing. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >context 2006.12.17-0.1 is available from the usual place: > > deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ > > > >I want to upload this package to Debian proper soon. Please give > >suggestions/remarks/comments! > > I am not a debian user so I will not comment on the package itself, > but I fully expect a new release from Hans today, so perhaps it > is better to wait a few hours before uploading. Ok, thanks a lot. May I ask you something about copyright: For proper inclusion I really need to know the copyright not only of the files in cont-tmf, but aslo in the others, cont-ext, cont-fnt, cont-img. Is there any chance to get a statement of them beign DFSG compatible? Otherwise I have to exclude some of it and put it into something like context-nonfree. BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for luatex which I am also packaging. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BROUGH SOWERBY One who has been working at that same desk in the same office for fifteen years and has very much his own ideas about why he is continually passed over for promotion. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Hi all! context 2006.12.17-0.1 is available from the usual place: deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ I want to upload this package to Debian proper soon. Please give suggestions/remarks/comments! Thanks a lot Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BURLESTON That peculiarly tuneless humming and whistling adopted by people who are extremely angry. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
Hi Sanjoy! On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: > > > Nup, doesn't work: > > > kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a > > > Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing? > > > > Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that > > is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this > > means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected. > > I had the same error, which remained after installing cont-fnt.zip. > I'll make a small test case soonish. Here it does work after installation of cont-fnt.zip. Or the current Debian context package. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- SUTTON and CHEAM (nouns) Sutton and cheam are the kinds of dirt into which all dirt is divided. 'Sutton' is the dark sort that always gets on to light-coloured things, 'cheam' the light-coloured sort that clings to dark items. Anyone who has ever found Marmite stains on a dress-shirt or seagull goo on a dinner jacket (a) knows all about sutton and cheam, and (b) is going to tome very curious dinner parties. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >Nup, doesn't work: > > kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a > >Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing? > > Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that Thanks, this worked. Nice ... Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- MARLOW (n.) The bottom drawer in the kitchen your mother keeps her paper bags in. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
Hi Hans! On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote: > >Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't > >know. > > > as far as we know, they're all free (at least, before adding something > to the ext file, taco tests the structure etc etc); the third party > modules are collected on the context wiki, fetched from there and merged > into the ext zip (as well as uploaded automatically to ctan) Thanks. On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote: > >What else would make sense? I have updated the package included all the four zips. Thanks a lot for the suggestions. > some day next year there will be an additional zip for luatex support No problem, will be included, too. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- SCROGGS (n.) The stout pubic hairs which protrude from your helping of moussaka in a cheap Greek restaurant. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new debian context, including various new files
Hi all! Another day, another updated... context 2006.12.07-0.3 is available from the usual place: deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ Big news: Now all the files from the following zips are included: cont-tmf.zipthe main CONTEXT distribution cont-ext.zipthird party CONTEXT modules cont-fnt.zipfont metrics of public fonts cont-img.zipa few resources for testing functionality With the new packages I was able to compile all the test documents I got till now (the assignment and the pdftex-t documentation). Big thanks to Taco for helping me and all his suggestions. Now I have to get some decent copyright file for Debian inclusion, if someone can help ... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- TIMBLE (vb.) (Of small nasty children.) To fail over very gently, look around to see who's about, and then yell blue murder. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
Hi Taco! (BTW: Sorry for bothering with all this, and thanks for the support!) On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >What else would make sense? > >- cont-tmf.zip > >- cont-fnt.zip > >- cont-img.zip ??? > >- cont-ext.zip ??? > > The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext. > cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images). Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't know. If not, I can create two packages which complement each other. Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BUDBY A nipple clearly defined through flimsy or wet material. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one > compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should No, the more the better. > decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more > context support, the better. I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already in the cont-tmf.zip file. What else would make sense? - cont-tmf.zip - cont-fnt.zip - cont-img.zip ??? - cont-ext.zip ??? - anything else? Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- PLYMOUTH (vb.) To relate an amusing story to someone without remembering that it was they who told it to you in the first place. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
Hi Taco! On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >Nup, doesn't work: > > kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a > >Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing? > > Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that > is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this > means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected. Ok. Would it make sense to pack them together with the cont-tmf.zip in the Debian context package? Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- `Maybe somebody here tipped off the Galactic Police,' said Trillian. `Everybody saw you come in.' `You mean they want to arrest me over the phone?' said Zaphod, `Could be. I'm a pretty dangerous dude when I'm cornered.' `Yeah,' said a voice from under the table [Ford's now completely rat- arsed at this point], `you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel.' --- Zaphod getting paranoid over a phone call. --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
Hi Aditya! On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > This is a simple document that uses URW-Pallatino fonts and some mp > backgrounds. Sanjoy had some trouble with the fonts due to missing map > files. If the document compiles correctly, it will verify that the > URW-Pallatino map files are correct. Simply unzip the files and Nup, doesn't work: kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing? Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BANFF Pertaining to, or descriptive of, that kind of facial expression which is impossible to achieve except when having a passport photograph taken. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207
/qx-lm.map /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-lm.map /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-lm.map /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ts1-lm.map /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/font-map.tex /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-1.tex /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-15.tex /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-2.tex /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-7.tex If someone can explain me the big changes? Something like: We don't need the map files anymore or so would be nice. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- OSBASTON (n.) A point made for the seventh time to somebody who insists that they know exactly what you mean but clearly hasn't got the faintest idea. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: > texlive-metapost/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 > texlive-base/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 > texlive-common/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-3 > texlive-base-bin/testing uptodate 2005.dfsg.2-2 > > and the new context package from www.tug.org/texlive/Debian version > 2006.08.08 the following text file processes without error but has no > graphic Strange enough, on my computer I don't see this problem. The file contains the graphics. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpost -progname=metafun -mem=metafun mptest-mpgraph.mp > This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5) > (mptest-mpgraph.mpSegmentation fault > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem > /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem > /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem Maybe some other files in /etc/texmf/web2c are interfering. metapost pool files would be an idea. Can you send me the list of files in /etc/texmf/web2c? I have thee ONLY mktex.cnf!!! Best wishes Norbert ------- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- DUNGENESS (n.) The uneasy feeling that the plastic handles of the overloaded supermarket carrier bag you are carrying are getting steadily longer. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Debian/texlive/context: Segfault in mpost
On Mit, 08 Nov 2006, Johan Sandblom wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate metafun.mem > /etc/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem > /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafun.mem The mem file in /etc/texmf/web2c seems VERY FISHY!!! Please remove it. Probably metapost loads a wrong metafun.mem file. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- AMERSHAM (n.) The sneeze which tickles but never comes. (Thought to derive from the Metropolitan Line tube station of the same name where the rails always rattle but the train never arrives.) --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] (fwd) Debian context 2006.08.08-0.5
Hi all! I am forwarding this to the context list for those who do not follow the debian-tex-maint. - Forwarded message from Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > From: Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: context -0.5 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:35:48 +0200 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 > > Hi all! > > New package context 2006.08.08-0.5 > > Changes: > - only create cont-en, mptopdf, and metafun formats on pdftex by default > > - make ctxfmtutil shut up in the default case > > - install perl scripts > > - config file is now > /etc/texmf/context/config/formats.cnf > Please remove the old config file if it is still present. > (Suggested by Hans) > > - install formats into TEXMFSYSVAR=/var/lib/texmf for root calling > and TEXMFVAR=~/.texmf-var for user calling > > PLEASE REMOVE THE OLD FORMATS UNDER /usr/share/texmf/web2 by > HAND. Sorry for this, I was stupid! > > - add a check for the presence of the driving engine and issue a > warning. > > - Some small stuff (man page, extend example in confif file) > - End forwarded message - If you are a seasoned ConTeXt user on Debian, please give it a try and tell me about your experiences. Best is to send feed-back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- CRAIL (n. mineral) Crail is a common kind of rock or gravel found widely across the British Isles. Each individual stone (due to an as yet undiscovered gravitational property) is charged with 'negative buoyancy'. This means that no matter how much crail you remove from the garden, more of it will rise to the surface. Crail is much employed by the Royal Navy for making the paperweights and ashtrays used inside submarines. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Two problems with current ruby scripts
Dear all! THe packages of ConTeXt I am currently preparing are tested by a user and he send back the following questions/comments. Could you please comment on this. For the background: I install all the stubs from scripts/context/stubs/unix into /usr/bin, add a texmfstart stub that calls ruby with the right path to texmfstart.rb. - Forwarded message from Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > From: Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: New texexec very confused > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:30 -0700 > > The new ruby texexec is very confused. The problem of output > defaulting to pdf instead of dvi has already been noted. Here > are some additional problems: > > Command:texexec --output=dvips foo > Should produce: foo.dvi > Actually produces: foo.pdf > > Command:texexec --dvi foo > Should produce: foo.dvi > Actually produces: foo.dvi AND OVERWRITES foo.ps > > --Mike Bird - End forwarded message - - Forwarded message from Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > From: Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Is texmfstart secure? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:08:53 -0700 > > Package: context 2006.08.08-0.4 > > If anyone who knows Ruby has time, can you tell if texmfstart is > secure? I was really surprised to see client-server code. Even > localhost services can lead to privilege escalation if not careful. > For example, /usr/share/texmf/scripts/context/ruby/texmfstart.rb > contains the following. I'm not a Ruby programmer but the comment > leads me to think there is a potential problem here: > > # danger lurking > buffer = ' ' * 260 > length = filemethod.call(filename,buffer,buffer.size) > if length>0 then > return buffer.slice(0..length-1) > > It looks like PRAGMA is trying to reinvent kpsewhich, integrate internet > explorer, launch editors, and do a whole bunch of other stuff I haven't > figured out. texexec should be a simple wrapper around tex or pdftex > but it works via texmfstart.rb which is 2541 lines of Ruby - and that's > a lot of Ruby. It may all be wonderful (I am not a Ruby programmer) but > it makes me nervous. > > Is an older/simpler texexec still available? > > --Mike Bird - End forwarded message - Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- TABLEY SUPERIOR (n.) The look directed at you in a theatre bar in the interval by people who've already got their drinks. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt installtion and Debian
Hi all! On Die, 24 Okt 2006, Norbert Preining wrote: > > # texexec --make --all [--xetex | --aleph | --pdftex] > > > > Where are the desired formats to run. The accepted list > > at the moment is: the eight ConTeXt formats, in both long > > ("cont-en" etc.) and short from ("en","nl","de","it","fr","cz", > > "ro","uk"), and "mptopdf", and the metapost mems "mpost" and "metafun". Ok, I have rewritten the Debian context package so that it does the following: On installation/update time a script context-build-formats is called which reads the file /etc/texmf/context/formats.cnf where all the formats to be build are defined. Currently my file looks like this: # # This file defines which ConTeXt formats are build # {pdftex,aleph} {de,en,it,mptopdf} Yes, it expands the curly braces. On removal currently I don't do anything, because I don't know how to know which files should be removed. But this shouldn't be to hard, remove /usr/share/texmf/web2c/$engine/$format.* Anyway, it is not very intellignet the script, no error checking, nothing, but it runs. What do you say: - you ConTeXt people: concerning the format file, the way of updating? - you Debian people: concerning the new way to define it? The context-build-formats should be something like fmtutil(-sys) for context. I didn't come around to implement the difference between the -sys and the normal variant, but it should be easy, as in fmtutil-sys. Any suggestions? BTW, here is the code for the script, it is short: #!/bin/bash # context-build-formats export TEXMFSYSCONFIG=/usr/share/texmf parse_line() { engine=$1 format=$2 eval set $engine allengines="$@" eval set $format allformats="$@" for e in $allengines ; do for f in $allformats ; do texexec --make --$e $f done done } OIFS=$IFS IFS=' ' set $(echo x; sed '/^#/d; /^[ ]*$/d' "/etc/texmf/context/formats.cnf") ; shift IFS=$OIFS for line do parse_line $line; done # eof You see where I robbed the code ... fmtutil. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- SKETTY (n.) Apparently self-propelled little dance a beer glass performs in its own puddle. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt installtion and Debian
Hi Taco, hi all! I am trying to fix all the problems for Debian ... Another thing Taco wrote was: > * TEXFORMATS as shipped with teTeX/TL is uncomplete: there is that >missing format-specific subdirectory. If you are not root, then >you have to create a local texmf.cnf to overrule the default >texmf.cnf. I have: > >TEXFORMATS= .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$engine,} > >because context's texexec pushes the $engine setting to the >environment, this works fine (Originally this was supposed to >be handled by kpathsea, but like I said, that never got off >the ground) This change I have executed in the tex-common depot, it will not hurt anybody. > * TEXFONTMAPS is also wrong: it makes pdftex (and dvipdfmx as well, >I guess) find the mapfiles for dvips before their own mapfiles >(those are shipped with ConTeXt). > >I have: > >TEXFONTMAPS.dvipdfm = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvipdfm,dvips,}// >TEXFONTMAPS.dvipdfmx = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvipdfm,dvips,}// >TEXFONTMAPS.pdftex = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}// >TEXFONTMAPS.pdfetex = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}// >TEXFONTMAPS.xetex= .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{xetex,pdftex,dvips,}// >TEXFONTMAPS.dvips= .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvips,pdftex,}// >TEXFONTMAPS =.;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{$progname,pdftex,dvips,}//;\ >$TEXMF/{$progname,pdftex,dvips}/{config,}// > >this works fine (but it is perhaps a bit too verbose). Debian currently has: TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/{fonts/,}map//;$TEXMF/dvips// What about this? I am not completely convinced about it since with updmap we generate input file for all the different programs. For Taco: I have NOT installed the dvipdfm map files, only those from fonts/map/pdftex/context and fonts/map/dvips/context Furthermore I have added all the maps in fonts/map/dvips/context to the updmap config file and called updmap-sys. So now I can call texexec on several documents without any problems and all the fonts are found. What is the problem with - removing the dvipdfm maps - generating lines for dvipdfm(x), pdfetex, dvips from the dvips config files as done by updmap-sys It would be great if we could straighten this out and get nice packages for Debian rather soon. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HERSTMONCEUX (n.) The correct name for the gold medallion worn by someone who is in the habit of wearing their shirt open to the waist. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] ConTeXt installtion and Debian
Hi Taco, hi all! (I am sending personal copies since I don't know whether I can mail to the ntg list). First of all thanks for the explanations! You wrote: > To actually update ConTeXt, assuming you already have a relatively > modern context installed, you say > > # ctxtools --update > > and that fetches the zip file(s) from the pragma site (or a mirror), > unpacks them, and updates the various perl and ruby scripts that come > with ConTeXt. > > You have to be root for this when you want to update the global install, > otherwise you have a few extra caveats, see below. > > After a succesful update, you have to run > > # texexec --make --all [--xetex | --aleph | --pdftex] > > Where are the desired formats to run. The accepted list > at the moment is: the eight ConTeXt formats, in both long > ("cont-en" etc.) and short from ("en","nl","de","it","fr","cz", > "ro","uk"), and "mptopdf", and the metapost mems "mpost" and "metafun". I checked the current zip file and the current ctxtools.rb script, it does nothing else than: - download the current zip - unpack - install the stubs from scripts/context/stubs/* - update the formats. So this is what we have to do in the Debian package, too. This is not hard, in fact most parts are already done. The only thing we have to do is create a way for the user to choose which formats should be generated. I will think about this. But for the search pathes, we will adjust the Debian texmf.cnf file, to get different engines loading differen cont-en.fmt files. Thanks. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Università di Siena Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- HASTINGS (pl.n.) Things said on the spur of the moment to explain to someone who comes into a room unexpectedly precisely what it is you are doing. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context